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Alright everybody, thanks for coming.

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Very large room with scattered attendance.

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This is how the rays or the
Florida Panthers feel, I guess,

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when they play games.

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Few of you'll appreciate that joke.

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So what we're doing today,

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and I appreciate people coming out,

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this is kind of step two
of the earlier session

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when we were talking about
NSRC-funded projects.

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And kind of working with ways

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to translate some of the
work that they're doing,

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and kind of more broadly

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what the Northern Institute
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and some of us at UVM are doing.

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And looking at just trying
to think through solutions

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for addressing climate change impacts.

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And so a goal of this session

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is to get feedback on a draft guide

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that we've been working on
that really is meant to try

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to take some of these
broader recommendations

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about adaptation to climate change

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and invasive insects and diseases

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and step that down to
more site level actions.

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And so, again, Tony D'Amato from UVM,

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but I'm really fortunate to
be supported by Sam Myers

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who's also from UVM and NIACS.

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And so you'll be hearing
from her in a second.

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But again, just to acknowledge
NSRC-funded project.

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And the team on this,
really, this is a collective,

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so myself and Sam will be talking mostly,

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but Ali Kosiba is
involved with the project.

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Erika Rowland from the
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as well as Amanda Mahaffey has
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as well as Maria Janowiak
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So all been kind of contributing

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to what you're gonna see today as a guide.

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And then also others have been involved

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with just generating some of the science

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as well as some of the feedback

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on just what we even planned
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And so acknowledging folks from
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Lyme Timber, Vermont FPR, US
Fish and Wildfire Service,

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and as well as Nature Conservancy.

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So what you're gonna see
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this is kind of the process we've used

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to develop this guide and...

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I hate being stuck to a podium,

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but so what we've basically been doing

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is taking information both from research,

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but importantly also from more the work

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that's been happening in the field

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by via managers and practitioners

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that are actually doing
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which really specifically
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spruce-fir forest and mixedwood forest,

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is using existing adaptation
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are part of the climate
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or if you've been the last 10 years,

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but forest adaptation.org,

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you can go and look

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at all of these adaptation
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that have been designed
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by the Northern Institute
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of people doing adaptation in practice,

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but we also have many things
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that people are doing on the ground

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that we're also gaining insights
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taking that collective
wisdom that's out there

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and distilling it down into a guide

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that hopefully can help
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out there in the field.

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So goals for today is to improve this.

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So what you're gonna see

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is a kind of a very initial
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where we can not easily,

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but somewhat easily either
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or change how we're delivering this,

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as well as just get feedback

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on how do you ultimately
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when we're finished with that.

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there'll be some interactive components,

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but also a big piece of it
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is us extracting information from you

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in terms of what you
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and how do you like that to be improved.

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We'll do initially in a second

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just an activity to get a
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how you're thinking about adaptation,

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and then we'll actually hand out

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a draft of a chunk of the guide

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and have some opportunity for you

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to kind of work through that,

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look at what we have for
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and then we'll have some
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just to see what some of
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in terms of what we can improve upon.

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And then the goal is those that
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So in Burlington, the third week of March,

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I'm looking at Alex, I know
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knowing an SAF meeting will be here,

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and so the goal is the final
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in about fourth week, thank you.

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So be right next door, larger venue,

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hopefully same quiz bowl winner this year.

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We'll be sharing the guide with folks

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and it's kind of as a final document,

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this is really an opportunity for us today

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to get feedback from you on that.

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So what we're gonna do is
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just to get some feedback.

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the hope is that even though
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at the end of the day,
there'll be some interaction.

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I think we're okay in
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but am I make sense as we go through

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kind of some other activities

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people might need to move a little bit

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to be closer to one another.

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I think right now we're okay? Yeah.

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But first thing we wanna do,

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those that just finished a
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but if we're gonna use Menti
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about higher thinking,

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about adaptation in the work,

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and to lead this, again, I
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she's been a big force
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So come on up, Sam.

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Yes.

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(audience applauding)

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So if you have never used Menti before,

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you're gonna see this number
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Yeah, so I'm just pull up the website.

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Lots of thumbs up. There we go.

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Great. Thanks, Tony.

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And yeah, to introduce myself again,

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my name is Samantha Myers,

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I'm a forest adaptation specialist at UVM,

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work primarily with the Northern Institute

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for Applied Climate Science.

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Hopefully what this activity will do,

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and if you haven't gotten to it yet,

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you can scan the QR code
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to get here to this Menti activity.

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We have 76 people on, so
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considering that I think we
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So that's great. Glad
everyone's with me here.

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And this activity, which
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you'll see the questions pop
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to go through it with me.

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And again here we're just
gauging the audience,

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gauging who's here,

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and how you all are kind of coming in here

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already thinking or not thinking

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as much about climate adaptation.

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All right.

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First question, "What
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Okay, on a state folks.

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Academia.

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Nice, thanks.

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Out of state, academia,

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some other or multiple
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So we're really kind of
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where people are coming from,
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natural resource manager,
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executive director, professor,
forest technician, awesome.

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Grad student outreach, seed
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and spruce-fir forests.

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that this guy is primarily focused on.

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where people are coming from.

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wanna shout out where
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Southern New England. Huh?

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-[Audience 1] Riparian.
-Riparian lands? Cool.

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Lot of northern hardwoods,

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but a good amount of
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All right, "How often do you
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or are you implementing
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in your work today?"

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So we have all the time,
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but not currently but wanna do more, so...

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Lots of people are often.

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I know there's a weird line

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between like all the time and often.

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Occasionally. Awesome.

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There's a lot more people in this room

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but you're all spread out

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so it's hard to imagine that
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Okay, I guess we have some
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"When thinking about climate adaptation,"

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like many of you sound like you are,

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"what kind of guides or
resources do you use most often?"

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And particularly, if you're
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why it's useful to you?

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None, current research, okay.

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Okay, Ali Kosiba, I see Tony,
Vermont Conservation Design,

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lots of it's...

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Adaptation Workbook,
other knowledgeable staff.

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kind of partnership connections

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that are really important
knowledge sources here

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rather than, like,
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that people are are pulling
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Tree atlas,

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12 steps of climate adaptation

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helpful for working with landowners.

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Too much information

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but also that means a
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Just overwhelming.

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NIACS. Awesome.

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Next question here.

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So "When thinking about
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the piece of information" or kind of,

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you can think about this
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that you wish you had is?

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You can also think about,
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like, what you're thinking you want.

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More certainty for sure.

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All the answers. Okay.

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Predictive models,

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results of long-term
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Definitely getting at that
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Optimism time machines, some of these...

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I see it's the afternoon,

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everyone has really creative answers here,

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but also useful and, you know, yeah.

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Coordinate with soil types, lag times,

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thinking about translating to landowners

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so that like communications
piece, species lists,

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refugia maps, specific
actions for landowners.

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Yeah, this is all great.

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I don't know if you can
submit more than once,

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but it feels like keep
coming in, that's great.

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Brevity Directness, less
big long jargon for sure.

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Thank you all for your
responses here, yeah.

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A good guide, planting resources.

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Okay, now I'm gonna move on.

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Yeah, I think you can
still answer question

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if it kind of comes to you

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after the fact that this is being shared.

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I think it'll still stay your screen.

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Now "At what stage of management

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do you find that you need more information

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to support your climate adaptation goals?"

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Planning, implementation,
monitoring outcomes.

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And here it's asking you to
kind of, like, rank on a scale

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of like at which from
insufficient information

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to sufficient information

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about each of those three
kind of stages of management.

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Yeah, and this density plot is cool

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'cause you can see the average popping up,

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but you can also see if
there's some outliers in this.

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In terms of less, yeah,

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I'm seeing generally less information

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maybe when it comes to
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like the further along
you're getting in this work

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over time.

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Awesome.

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I think that's the last question for now.

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We're gonna move on to...

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Do you wanna like over,
yeah, walk through the guide.

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Okay, cool.

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Don't know what...

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Do you need a slide up for that?

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-Yeah.
-Okay.

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-(Tony speaks indistinctly)
-(Samantha laughing)

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Hopefully not.

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No, I think it's duplicated, so...

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Okay.

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All right. Thank you for that feedback.

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And I give a lot of these
but I never do them.

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So the thumbs up, people just
need you to click that, huh?

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You know, it's just on the screen, click.

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Appreciate the thumbs
ups and the feedback.

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And I think a lot of
what we're seeing there

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in terms of the information

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that there's a lot of
information out there,

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a lot of guides.

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Again, we're super lucky that NIACS

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has produced so many resources,

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but also that there's a need
to maybe distill that down

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to some of these other
kind of more site level

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and also advances in what
we're trying to think about

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in terms of species list, et cetera.

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So hopefully aspects of what we'll show

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in terms of this guide, we'll
hit at some of those marks.

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And so what I'm gonna do

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before you actually
physically get the guide

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is just talk you through
some of the logic of it

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because you're not getting
the full blown guide,

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you're essentially getting
kind of the front part of it,

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the section dealing
with northern hardwoods

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and then some of the appendicy material

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that will be in the guide.

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So it's not the the full blown guide,

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but at least we'll give you a feel

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for how we're approaching this
and giving credit already.

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There's many guides that
have been developed already

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for other parts of the
region that NIACS serves

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that really serve as an
inspiration for this.

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So we're kind of building off

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of some of the work they've done

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with adaptation field
guides and other approaches.

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So this is the draft cover.

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And so the way it's organized,

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as people mentioned in
terms of content, you know,

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even though most of you have been exposed

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to the mountains of great
information that exists

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on thinking through adaptation,
adaptation planning,

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the first part of the guide
that you'll see really

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is just linking you back to those places

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where you can find those documents

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you somehow may have missed
like the adaptation workbook

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or how to think through even
monitoring adaptation outcomes.

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And so the beginning,

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we'll just be talking a little
bit about just, you know,

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how you approach adaptation

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and then getting through
kind of that list again,

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how many folks in here have
been through a NIACS training

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on using the climate
change response framework?

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So, many of you know this
menu of adaptation options,

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this is a common menu of options

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that really exists for broad forest types.

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There's also a specific
adaptation guide for hydrology.

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So some folks mentioned
working with riparian areas.

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So there's different resources
that you can also go to,

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but this is just a quick reference list

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for some of the broad recommendations
for forest adaptation,

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so you'll see that and it'll
be cross-referenced throughout.

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And then what we're most excited about

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is not kind of rehashing
on that information

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that already exists out there,

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but really trying to
localize this to the region.

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Obviously, sitting in the state

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that produces the best
maple syrup in the globe,

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a lot of us are in the
northern hardwood region.

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But the idea again being for the footprint

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of the northern forest to
focus in on northern hardwoods,

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mixedwoods and spruce-fir,

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all of which occur in this state,

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but obviously become more
important as we move to our west

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as well as to our east.

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So what will happen as
after you get beyond

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that early initial information

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as there'll be kind of chapters

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for each of the forest types.

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And so what I'm gonna show
and what you're gonna look at,

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that's gonna get handed out
after I go through this,

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is the northern hardwood section.

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So kind of how we've approached that.

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Nothing is written in stone,

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it's really meant to be at a draft stage,

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just for feedback on how
we're approaching it.

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So again, the first part,

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just begins with a broad
community description,

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kind of what we're talking about

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in terms of northern hardwood forests,

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kind of the prevailing
ecology of those sites,

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where they're found,
underlying disturbance regime.

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And then again, those
that haven't looked up,

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another giant resource that
was produced by the NIACS,

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the New England and Northern New York

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vulnerability assessment.

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What it'll contain

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is a summary of that
vulnerability assessment

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for that system.

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So basically what you're seeing up here

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is the general ranking for
northern hardwoods, you know,

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the kind of in the middle part
of that depends on the site,

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depends on kind of where you're at.

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So it gets into both put
the vulnerability is,

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what some of the current stressors

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that we're worried about are,

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and then the adaptive
capacity of the system.

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So the other other side
of that vulnerability

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is kind of what's the potential response.

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So this will be a summary
for each of the communities.

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From there is when we kind
of start stepping it down

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and localizing it.

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And so this is when we're
trying to actually build in

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some of the challenges that we face.

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And so the way that we organize this

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really is kind of calling
out those site level factors

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that really are gonna make a difference

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between northern hardwood site

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being highly vulnerable and
at risk and one that's not.

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And likewise, will make a big difference

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in terms of the overall
adaptation actions you can take.

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So what will we have?

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And you'll see this and
you can respond to them.

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Some of the feedback we want is,

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"Well what about this or what about that?"

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Or "I'm not looking at this way"

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is that we kind of divide this

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into this binary classification.

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Either it's gonna decrease
or increase climate risk

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or more broadly on global change impacts

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like invasive insects and diseases.

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And so as an example,
overstory composition,

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if it's a site that's dominated

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by future climate adapted species,

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we're maybe not as worried
about as vulnerability.

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If it's a site that's 95% white ash,

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maybe we're thinking a
little bit differently

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about that site.

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And so kind of stepping through

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how that vulnerability might vary

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depending on those conditions.

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And so again, you'll have an
opportunity to look at that.

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We then step that down

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to then what do you do
based on the vulnerability?

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And so if you are in a site

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that has a high issues with regeneration,

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if you aren't in Corinth
and you're in Groton,

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you're dealing with like poorer soils

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and so you can't just regenerate
on the species that are,

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you know, you really
done with beach issues,

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how you might kind of vary
your silver culture for those.

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And so it steps down into
those specific recommendations.

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And then parenthetically,

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what you're seeing up there
are those are the numbers

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that correspond to that adaptation menu.

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So where can you find
those tactics in the menu.

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And then finally a key piece of this

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is that people have been doing this stuff

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and so it's worth knowing, like,

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what does this look like in practice?

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And so the last piece of those sections

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is that in the case of what you'll see,

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we have two case studies,

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the Tug Hill example that I showed

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in that presentation earlier.

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as well as an example
with Atlas Timberlands

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looking at kind of the infrastructure

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and trying to retrofit that
for adaptation purposes.

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And so a couple of different of examples,

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similar to those that are familiar

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with the Forestry for the Birds work

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often have kinda these examples,

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you can kind of at least look

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as to how people are approaching things.

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So those will be specific
to each forest type.

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And then what's nice

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is that you can link to
online demonstration sites

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and see more about those
what's happened at those sites.

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Other examples, but in the interest

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of not having this be
like a 300-page booklet,

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we have a couple of examples
here that can be a springboard

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for looking at what other
folks are doing on the ground.

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The last piece, and this will
be the appendix material.

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So after everything, is
somebody wants species lists,

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this was kind of the species list

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that came out of the last
vulnerability assessment.

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There's a page before this that tells you

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these are just kind of averages of models

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as I mentioned in my session.

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I don't always agree with
how red spruce is assessed.

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You have to think about your local site,

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you have to think about kind
of the conditions you're on,

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but at least just general
ranking for the region.

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And then kind of stepping
it further down into

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if you actually are thinking
about planting trees,

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both how those approaches vary

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depending on the flavor
of assisted migration

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as well as some of the
risks and considerations.

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I don't have that up here,

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but there's additional material on that.

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And then the final piece,

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I'm gonna just have it up
here for northern hardwoods

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are just some of the species

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that have been commonly tried and why.

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It's not just because we
want red oak out there

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it's because we might lose
a mass producing species.

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So thinking a little
bit about the function

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that we're trying to sustain.

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Likewise, if I want a conifer species

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for conifer litter and
deadwood in a riparian zone,

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thinking about those functions,

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I can sustain with those approaches.

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And so those will be part

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of the kind of final
boilerplate information.

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So what we're gonna
start circulating around

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are two documents.

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And I think we have it,

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we might not have enough physical copies

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depending on how many people are online.

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So if you don't get a physical copy,

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the other document we're
handing out has a QR code,

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you can scan to access a
digital version of this.

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And what we're gonna be asking you to do

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is kind of take some time on your own

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to work through the document,

516
00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:52,320
provide some feedback,

517
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,030
and then we we're basically
gonna break this up

518
00:21:54,030 --> 00:21:55,470
and have opportunities for you to pair up

519
00:21:55,470 --> 00:21:57,030
and talk to your neighbors about it

520
00:21:57,030 --> 00:21:59,160
and give us kind of your perspective on,

521
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,450
like, what were some
of the emerging things

522
00:22:00,450 --> 00:22:02,910
that people felt were missing,
what could be improved.

523
00:22:02,910 --> 00:22:04,950
But the idea really is
to hopefully crowdsource

524
00:22:04,950 --> 00:22:07,440
your own opinion and perspective on this

525
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:08,727
as we try to improve the guide.

526
00:22:08,727 --> 00:22:10,830
And so Madison and Sam will be,

527
00:22:10,830 --> 00:22:12,270
we starting to hand that out

528
00:22:12,270 --> 00:22:14,130
and I'll take a second
in a moment as well,

529
00:22:14,130 --> 00:22:16,351
but you'll see on the worksheet itself.

530
00:22:16,351 --> 00:22:20,280
So I dunno if Sam could hold
up the worksheet just to...

531
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:21,840
So we have this worksheet

532
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,610
that we're really hoping
to collect from people

533
00:22:23,610 --> 00:22:25,020
at the end of the session.

534
00:22:25,020 --> 00:22:28,740
So we're asking you specific
questions about what's missing,

535
00:22:28,740 --> 00:22:30,330
what can be improved, what do you like?

536
00:22:30,330 --> 00:22:32,040
And then after we've done all this,

537
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,290
we also want feedback just on format.

538
00:22:34,290 --> 00:22:36,960
We haven't decided on, like,
the final format for this,

539
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:37,860
how we're gonna work with that.

540
00:22:37,860 --> 00:22:39,960
So getting a feel for
just what makes sense

541
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,690
in terms of delivering that guide.

542
00:22:42,690 --> 00:22:45,060
So we'll take some time
getting that distributed

543
00:22:45,060 --> 00:22:47,010
and then I'll kind of
remind folks of the task

544
00:22:47,010 --> 00:22:48,683
once everything's been handed out.

545
00:22:58,260 --> 00:23:00,630
So this is the QR code,

546
00:23:00,630 --> 00:23:05,103
still up here in case
you're not here with us yet.

547
00:23:06,930 --> 00:23:09,843
We're racking up these thumbs up.

548
00:23:13,770 --> 00:23:15,870
Did someone say there was
like a thumbs down option

549
00:23:15,870 --> 00:23:16,703
or something?

550
00:23:17,820 --> 00:23:19,353
Oh, someone wanted one?

551
00:23:23,580 --> 00:23:28,580
Alright, I assume we won't have
as high a number as earlier.

552
00:23:28,620 --> 00:23:29,850
We've lost some people,

553
00:23:29,850 --> 00:23:32,300
but appreciate everyone
who's here with us still.

554
00:23:36,930 --> 00:23:37,763
All right.

555
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,200
And if you miss the QR code,

556
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,450
you can always join, go to menti.com.

557
00:23:42,450 --> 00:23:45,060
So the bar at the top
will always be there,

558
00:23:45,060 --> 00:23:47,760
so join at menti.com and use that code.

559
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:52,760
Alright, so first we're asking you,

560
00:23:52,770 --> 00:23:55,740
just broadly kind of
trying to get a consensus

561
00:23:55,740 --> 00:23:58,320
of some of your less specific thoughts,

562
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:02,070
but which sections of this draft guide

563
00:24:02,070 --> 00:24:04,230
that you just looked at
were the most useful?

564
00:24:04,230 --> 00:24:06,423
You can select multiple here, I believe.

565
00:24:14,130 --> 00:24:17,010
Assisted species migration table

566
00:24:17,010 --> 00:24:19,110
or assisted migration species table,

567
00:24:19,110 --> 00:24:24,063
site level considerations, and
adaptation actions coming up.

568
00:24:29,469 --> 00:24:32,370
I think there were like 50 people on...

569
00:24:32,370 --> 00:24:33,203
All right.

570
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:36,833
Awesome.

571
00:24:41,670 --> 00:24:43,170
Alright, next question

572
00:24:43,170 --> 00:24:47,910
is "When do you think you
might use a guide like this?"

573
00:24:47,910 --> 00:24:51,510
So at your desk, as a
kind of printed version,

574
00:24:51,510 --> 00:24:53,970
at your computer as a digital version,

575
00:24:53,970 --> 00:24:57,120
in the field as a printed version,

576
00:24:57,120 --> 00:25:00,453
or kind of on your tablet or phone?

577
00:25:02,670 --> 00:25:06,240
I don't remember if you can
select multiple for this so...

578
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:07,263
You can, okay, cool.

579
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,410
So I see my computer as a digital,

580
00:25:13,410 --> 00:25:15,180
people might be thinking about using this

581
00:25:15,180 --> 00:25:19,533
when they're kind of in the
office or at their desk, yep.

582
00:25:22,170 --> 00:25:26,017
Next question is thinking back

583
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,420
to what kind of printed resources you use

584
00:25:30,420 --> 00:25:32,313
and why they're useful to you.

585
00:25:34,170 --> 00:25:36,390
Is it because they're
quick and easy to access?

586
00:25:36,390 --> 00:25:38,820
They're static reference material,

587
00:25:38,820 --> 00:25:40,860
they have like a broad
level of information

588
00:25:40,860 --> 00:25:44,133
that kind of doesn't need to
be updated, it's timeless.

589
00:25:44,970 --> 00:25:48,060
They have maybe like lookup tables,

590
00:25:48,060 --> 00:25:50,760
they fit in a vest for field use

591
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:55,760
or maybe large text resource for desk use.

592
00:25:58,496 --> 00:26:03,150
(audience speaks indistinctly)

593
00:26:03,150 --> 00:26:04,410
Kind of talking in general

594
00:26:04,410 --> 00:26:07,720
because there's no set idea
of what a guide like this

595
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:09,960
will look like in the end,

596
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,040
so we're trying to gauge

597
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,260
how we can make this most helpful to you.

598
00:26:13,260 --> 00:26:14,703
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

599
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,583
Oh yeah, sure.

600
00:26:23,340 --> 00:26:27,870
So yeah, so just some examples
of printed resources here.

601
00:26:27,870 --> 00:26:31,920
Like, something that can fit
in your vest or your pocket

602
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,013
or more kind of larger size desk guides.

603
00:26:35,850 --> 00:26:40,320
This can really be, you know,
can take it anywhere really,

604
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,810
desk or field as just as in the mall

605
00:26:48,810 --> 00:26:53,553
or a larger form kind of desk
printed material, larger text.

606
00:26:54,540 --> 00:26:58,293
Alright, nice.

607
00:27:00,090 --> 00:27:02,010
Thinking about digital resources

608
00:27:02,010 --> 00:27:03,990
that are most useful to you,

609
00:27:03,990 --> 00:27:07,980
is it because they have
static content for reference?

610
00:27:07,980 --> 00:27:09,930
Do they have like interactive content

611
00:27:09,930 --> 00:27:12,150
where it kind of you're guided

612
00:27:12,150 --> 00:27:14,910
based on the topics you click on?

613
00:27:14,910 --> 00:27:17,430
Does it have some kind of
interactive decision tool

614
00:27:17,430 --> 00:27:21,120
thinking about outputting some options

615
00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:24,900
based on your site level or
site level characteristics

616
00:27:24,900 --> 00:27:26,553
or inputs that you put in there?

617
00:27:27,618 --> 00:27:29,400
They have multimedia formats.

618
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,220
You can view 'em on on a phone or tablet.

619
00:27:32,220 --> 00:27:35,050
They have maybe more specific
or detailed information

620
00:27:36,540 --> 00:27:39,390
or maybe they're able to be updated

621
00:27:39,390 --> 00:27:40,590
kind of with the most current

622
00:27:40,590 --> 00:27:42,573
and recent data and information.

623
00:27:45,870 --> 00:27:46,703
Awesome.

624
00:27:47,850 --> 00:27:51,240
Yeah, I definitely think that
current data information piece

625
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,337
is probably really valuable in this way.

626
00:27:58,860 --> 00:27:59,693
Cool.

627
00:28:01,050 --> 00:28:02,580
All right, and final question

628
00:28:02,580 --> 00:28:06,091
is thinking about what
other challenges or barriers

629
00:28:06,091 --> 00:28:09,867
that you're seeing to adaptation
work that you're doing

630
00:28:09,867 --> 00:28:12,543
could a guide like this address?

631
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,370
So maybe this came up in discussions,

632
00:28:17,370 --> 00:28:20,760
things that were missing from the guide

633
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,103
that you'd really like
more information on?

634
00:28:23,970 --> 00:28:25,980
I know it kind of leans a little bit

635
00:28:25,980 --> 00:28:27,900
back to that question from earlier on

636
00:28:27,900 --> 00:28:29,550
what information that you're missing

637
00:28:29,550 --> 00:28:30,840
in climate adaptation work,

638
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,350
but this can be barriers

639
00:28:34,350 --> 00:28:37,650
or challenges related to information

640
00:28:37,650 --> 00:28:40,503
or kind of more broadly
that you're seeing.

641
00:28:41,940 --> 00:28:43,863
Managing for multiple objectives,

642
00:28:45,330 --> 00:28:49,233
social barriers, non-English
language options.

643
00:28:51,630 --> 00:28:52,463
Let's see.

644
00:28:53,970 --> 00:28:55,623
Funding, definitely.

645
00:28:57,420 --> 00:29:00,063
Soils context, scale context,

646
00:29:06,180 --> 00:29:08,130
accessible language to communicate

647
00:29:08,130 --> 00:29:11,430
with kind of a variety of
audiences or stakeholders,

648
00:29:11,430 --> 00:29:13,230
maps for spatial content.

649
00:29:13,230 --> 00:29:16,023
Yeah, this spatial idea coming up here.

650
00:29:18,377 --> 00:29:20,673
Wetland watershed BMPs,

651
00:29:24,300 --> 00:29:26,943
a broad document that
allows for collaboration,

652
00:29:30,390 --> 00:29:31,803
intended audience.

653
00:29:33,660 --> 00:29:36,663
Yeah, prioritizing, awesome.

654
00:29:38,430 --> 00:29:40,290
That's kind of all I had, yeah.

655
00:29:40,290 --> 00:29:42,480
Tony, any other wrap up thoughts?

656
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,460
We appreciate all your
feedback that you've given.

657
00:29:44,460 --> 00:29:46,200
It's been, yeah, really helpful

658
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:51,200
and have a lot to dive in
and sift through there.

659
00:29:51,228 --> 00:29:52,260
Yeah, I don't need to
step up there but just...

660
00:29:52,260 --> 00:29:54,856
Yeah, thank you everybody
for the time and feedback.

661
00:29:54,856 --> 00:29:56,700
You can hold us to it
the fourth week of March.

662
00:29:56,700 --> 00:29:59,910
We'll have a guide but really
if things come to mind,

663
00:29:59,910 --> 00:30:02,364
so Sam will provide an email address

664
00:30:02,364 --> 00:30:05,250
or others wanna write down other comments

665
00:30:05,250 --> 00:30:06,800
before we you leave, we can take on.

666
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,090
We really appreciate people's insights

667
00:30:09,090 --> 00:30:11,490
and everybody engaging
on this, so thank you.

668
00:30:11,490 --> 00:30:12,323
Yeah.

669
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,068
I'm just gonna...

670
00:30:19,068 --> 00:30:21,120
So hopefully on the Menti,
I don't think it'll show,

671
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,980
but on the Menti I left up
just an opportunity for you

672
00:30:25,980 --> 00:30:27,600
to give your email.

673
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:28,650
It shouldn't show up here.

674
00:30:28,650 --> 00:30:30,400
If it does, I'll close this window.

675
00:30:31,350 --> 00:30:33,960
So in addition to my email

676
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,483
that's on the bottom of the feedback form,

677
00:30:37,980 --> 00:30:40,560
which we're collecting,
it's not very helpful.

678
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:41,700
I guess I don't have my name,

679
00:30:41,700 --> 00:30:43,350
my email written down anywhere.

680
00:30:43,350 --> 00:30:46,800
But if you wanna offer your email here

681
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,290
to stay in touch about
the guide coming out

682
00:30:49,290 --> 00:30:50,880
or provide other feedback,

683
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,123
you can enter your email
in this question here.

684
00:30:56,250 --> 00:31:00,450
You can write your name
on the sign in sheet,

685
00:31:00,450 --> 00:31:02,509
which I can bring around at the end.

686
00:31:02,509 --> 00:31:06,210
And we do wanna collect
the feedback sheets

687
00:31:06,210 --> 00:31:10,723
that you left notes on so
you can find me afterwards.

688
00:31:10,723 --> 00:31:13,440
And if you took notes
directly on the guide

689
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:14,520
and the margins or whatever,

690
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,803
you can also hand those
to us if you'd like.

691
00:31:19,020 --> 00:31:20,283
Yeah. Cool.

692
00:31:21,729 --> 00:31:22,703
-(all applauding)
-Thanks, everyone.