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she is Senior Lecturer and
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Without further ado, I will
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Robin Atlas is a visual
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fine arts consultant and curator

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whose work has been exhibited
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She creates contemporary visual midrash,

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the process of investigating
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and other sacred Jewish texts,
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Adding her own artistic voice

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envisioned the ever evolving
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Her mixed media pieces
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and collaged fabric and
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which have then been
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with hand and machine embroidery,

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paper, paint, beadwork,
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She's the co-founder of
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and the current president
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of Judaic art.

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Nancy Current has been a
studio artist in Seattle

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since 1987, working on glass
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painting monotype, and
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her artwork visually
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and cultural texts

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in the tradition of
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She has exhibited nationally and in Canada

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and taught classes and lectured

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in the US, UK and Germany.

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she exhibits and co-curating

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with the AI artist, Robin Atlas.

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Jen Berger works as an
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and socially engaged artist and educator.

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Jen has developed a
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including street stage
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and video that she uses
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raise awareness and
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working with students from
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and host creative and
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throughout the community to
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Jen is creating community
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through her project At the Root.

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Vermont and Champlain college.

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Misoo was born in the Bronx
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that would be a really long
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but moved back to her parents'
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when she was a one-year-old.

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she returned to the US for
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as her mode of emotional
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including the Boca Raton Museum of Art,

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Southern Vermont Art Center,
Bailey Contemporary Arts,

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Florida Atlantic University,
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Palm Beach State College,
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the University of Vermont
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and the Fleming Museum Girls'
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Burlington City Arts, Champlain College,

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and the Steinhardt Museum of
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Misoo was selected as
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10 emerging New England artists in 2019

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and a Vermont artist to watch in 2020.

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in South Burlington,
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at misoo@misoo.org.

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Robin and Nancy will
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on their curatorial and
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Take it away, Robin and Nancy.

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- Yeah, there we go.

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Unmuted, is that better?

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- Okay, and then we go to desktop.

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- This one right here.

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- Thank you.

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- And then go to the top.

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So hello everyone,
thank you, good evening.

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Thank you for coming this evening.

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First, I wanted to thank
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for being here this evening

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and Andrea Rosen for moderating

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and keeping us all on track

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and especially to professor Andrus

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for inviting Nancy and
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Wanted to talk to you a
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Art Vector does called

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On the Consequences of Hate Speech.

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Nancy and I met, I don't
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what has now become On the
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we were invited by the
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of On the Consequences of
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The next two incarnations
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we talked about expanding the conversation

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to include more artists having
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And so in addition to our two narratives,

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Lashon Hara and Ladon Vador,

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we curated other artists
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of On the Consequences of Hate Speech,

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which will be an online
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and to do this exhibit for far less money

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than it would cost us to do
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and then everybody's
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By way of background,
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our narratives, Lashon
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And for those of you who don't know

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- (mumbles) speech, okay?

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- Oh yeah, go ahead.

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- Thank you.

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Yeah, sorry.

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And for those of you that
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literally means evil speech.

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It has many different pronunciations

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and different spellings,
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It's a Hebrew term we
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or other malicious or derogatory
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I find Lashon Hara to be so
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because it pits us against one another,

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rather than encouraging us

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to be compassionate,
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There are many ways that
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or evil speech by talking, by writing,

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by calling on the phone,
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by Twitter, and most
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our social media, Facebook, and otherwise.

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Initially Lashon Hara grew
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in my own community.

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I actually gave a neighbor a
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that was at my rabbi's house,

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she proceeded to excoriate
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that apparently I didn't
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And I can't tell you all of the emotions

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anger, I was speechless,

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there were all kinds of
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And I talked, what had
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and we talked about Lashon Hara
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and the first seven pieces were born.

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I'm gonna talk to you about
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The first one is called Thirty-One "31".

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There is a very famous Polish rabbi,

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whose name is Rabbi Yisrael Meir Kagan,

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also known as the Chofetz Chaim.

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And he was a very wise and learned rabbi

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who wrote on many, many topics,

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but he is most acclaimed for
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on Lashon Hara and 31 is representative

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of the 31 places in the Torah

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where the Chofetz Chaim found Lashon Hara.

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And then the round pods that you see,

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the round circles on the
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that I use within the piece.

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And those are the seeds of Lashon Hara

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as they begin to grow.

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I liken it to a plant that has a life,

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and it creates seeds that fall
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and there's a circular, a
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Next slide, Nancy.

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This next piece is also related

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and it's entitled Three Murders.

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What I was trying to do
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how Lashon Hara affected
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how it affects us in a spiritual way,

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but how it also affects
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these little circles of
the pods of Lashon Hara,

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31 times again replicating
what the Chofetz Chaim found

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the 31 instances of
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And then the three horizontal stripes

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that you see in the middle of the piece

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are representative of the
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when we speak Lashon Hara.

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It has been said that Lashon
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It kills the soul of the gossiper,

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the one who is talking
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it kills the soul of the
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and it kills the soul of the
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the person who's hearing the gossip.

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Nancy.

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This last piece, I have four,

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this third piece is the
last in this little series

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of narrative called In the
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or Chilul Hashem, the
desecration of the name of God.

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And this is the poison that
happens to the tree of knowledge

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when we have corrupted it
with speaking Lashon Hara.

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And I have again with a whole narrative

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has a recurring theme
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over and over again.

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And the black seed beans in the center

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of the upper part of the tree
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And then there's gold bugle
beads that hang off the edge

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of the top of the tree are the flowers,

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and then the blue black seed beads

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are the seeds that fall to the ground

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and they grow pods that
repeat the cycle L'dor vador

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over and over again from
generation to generation, okay.

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Next.

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And the last piece from my
narrative of Lashon Hara

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that I'm gonna talk about,

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(coughs) excuse me,

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is entitled Eruv.

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Quite literally, according
to Miriam Webster

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Eruv is described as an urban area

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enclosed by a wire boundary,

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which symbolically
extends the private domain

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of a Jewish household into public areas,

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creating a larger community.

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And I did Eruv to be kind
of a universal symbol

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that when you saw it in a
room that you knew that,

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that that was a safe space,

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that whomever was in that space
was going to put their body

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between you and whatever danger

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you were going to be engaged in.

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And it was a universal symbol.

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The E at the foot of the Eruv

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is a patch that connects different
strips of cloth together.

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And it is the letter shin,
when you write it in cursive,

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which is also the symbol for hashem.

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Nancy.

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- Okay, we'll go to my
section of the OCHS exhibit.

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Then this is my original.

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Originally just my exhibit was L'Dor Vador

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from generation to generation.

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It's a series which focuses
on a crucial Jewish principle,

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teach the next generation.

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Every individual stands
at a convergence point.

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Having learned from our
teachers, parents, religions,

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et cetera, we have the
responsibility to pass along

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our best distillation of that learning

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to the next generation.

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So I will show you some
of the pieces from that.

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These are glass paintings,
which I'll discuss at first.

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And this is the first one,

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In Seeking Wisdom, the
First Step is Silence.

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And recognizing that
teaching morality and values

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requires knowledge and a sense of purpose

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outside of one's own ego

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I titled five of these glass paintings

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with the teachings of Solomon ibn Gabirol,

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excuse me, I got trouble with his name.

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An 11th century Jewish
philosopher and poet,

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non sacred texts from the
ginizah or the storehouse

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in the synagogue in Cairo are
silk screened onto the glass.

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You can see them there in various,

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in black and in gold to
represent thousands of years

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of Jewish tradition and
rabbinical teachings.

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This first one actually includes
the land of Israel in it

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because I feel that's an important part

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of our tradition and teachings.

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The second one here is,

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In Seeking Wisdom, the
Second Step is Listening.

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This image evokes the
teachings of the mothers,

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especially proverbs and folk sayings

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such as hatred is the fruit of fear.

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And the implied architecture
represents the home

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and that the elements of that architecture

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are taken from the border decorations

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found in student primers.

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Also from the Cairo ginizah.

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I'm skipping a few here,
I'm not doing them all

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but the fifth step is teaching others.

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This painting refers to a cheder,

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a traditional Jewish boys school.

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The text is both
architectural and a reference.

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I mean, the actual texts in the image

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are both architectural and
a reference to teaching.

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And the pattern of color in
the glass creates movement

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and applies communication
between the generations.

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This is the last one of the series.

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So this is the sixth one,

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so the title is taken
from the Book of Psalms,

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a light passing through glass
has a spiritual quality,

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which is why I choose it as a canvas light

336
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also refers to the
transmission of learning

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besides teaching children,

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I want important ideas
from rabbinical texts

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to benefit humanity in general.

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That's why in addition to
the vertical structure here

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representing teaching between generations,

342
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there's also the
triangular light going out

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from the glass frame to promote
those teachings to others.

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We're going to go back to OCHS.

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- So we're gonna share with you

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some of the most excellent submissions

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that became a part of

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On the Consequences of Hate Speech III.

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This first piece is an amazing work

350
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by a very talented fellow
named Vitaly Umansky.

351
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It's entitled Facebook Rage,

352
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and he has been struck by the fury

353
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that swept over the
country the last few years

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that's been precipitated by social media.

355
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He finds Facebook to be like an opiate,

356
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a drug of the masses

357
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that will take even the nicest looking,

358
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most gentle mild men person,

359
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and with enough social influence

360
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can turn them into somebody we
don't really even recognize.

361
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Nancy.

362
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- This painting from Tamar
Hirschl Critical Current

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was one of my favorite
paintings in the whole exhibit.

364
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Tamar spent much of her
childhood as an immigrant.

365
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So the immigrant experience
of loss and tragedy

366
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is especially meaningful to her.

367
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She was born in Zagreb, Croatia in 1939

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on the eve of World War 2.

369
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Trying to escape the Nazis,

370
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her mother took Tamar and her sister

371
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and fled towards Switzerland

372
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but they were arrested in
Hungary and imprisoned.

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After their release, they
walked back to Zagreb

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and hid while on the run
until the end of the war.

375
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In 1948, her family immigrated to Israel,

376
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living in poverty and tents
and barracks in a refugee camp.

377
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Critical Current addresses
the tragedy of mass migration,

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immigrants from North Africa
crossing the Mediterranean

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in boats are represented

380
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by piles of empty orange life jackets,

381
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their bodies, adults and children

382
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wash up on the shores of Europe.

383
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- I think Beth Haber is here with us,

384
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and I don't know that she knew

385
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that I was gonna screen this piece.

386
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It's a fabulous piece,
it's a fabulous piece.

387
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And she and I kind of
agreed on the premise

388
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that the slippage between
cause and consequence

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begins with language.

390
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It's corruption, it's
failure, or its efficacy,

391
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and what she wrote about
was about this passage

392
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from Rosencrantz and
Guildenstern are Dead.

393
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And it's the moment, it's
that consequential moment

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where a difference might have been made.

395
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And if we have any questions about it,

396
00:20:58,220 --> 00:20:59,850
I'm so glad she's here

397
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because she can tell us more about it.

398
00:21:03,290 --> 00:21:07,020
Thanks for making it Beth,
it's just a fabulous piece.

399
00:21:07,020 --> 00:21:10,055
- Yeah, it is.

400
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These are three paintings by Leah Raab.

401
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Leah was born in New Jersey
and now lives in Israel.

402
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Her work addresses universal
themes of exile, immigration,

403
00:21:21,110 --> 00:21:23,850
displacement, resettlement, and belonging.

404
00:21:23,850 --> 00:21:26,640
Her artwork moves back and
forth continuously between

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00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,630
different cultures of her homelands,

406
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Europe, US, and Israel.

407
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In Leah's words, Hitler used words

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00:21:34,410 --> 00:21:38,260
to propagate negative feelings
and false beliefs about Jews.

409
00:21:38,260 --> 00:21:40,420
The Holocaust began with poisonous speech

410
00:21:40,420 --> 00:21:42,620
and led to outright hatred, abuse

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and systematic destruction.

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My paintings of the shoes scream

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of the many murdered on the spot.

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My paintings are a memorial
to the Jews who are lined up

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00:21:51,770 --> 00:21:54,620
at the river's edge and
shot into the Danube

416
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and to my own family members in Hungary

417
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who were brutally murdered by the Nazis.

418
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,483
- This is a really interesting
piece by Maxine Hess.

419
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It's a quilt and it has this
wonderful mosaic quality

420
00:22:11,870 --> 00:22:16,870
and it diffuses the imagery
and what's going on with it.

421
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And it's the story of Sonya King.

422
00:22:20,190 --> 00:22:22,110
And I only learned about it

423
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after Maxine made her submission,

424
00:22:23,910 --> 00:22:26,860
but Sonya King was a delivery driver

425
00:22:26,860 --> 00:22:30,200
for DoorDash of all places.

426
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,849
And one day she made
a delivery to a racist

427
00:22:32,849 --> 00:22:35,270
while wearing her headscarf

428
00:22:35,270 --> 00:22:38,680
and he proceeded to try
to grab it off of her head

429
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,133
and strangle her with it.

430
00:22:41,460 --> 00:22:42,700
And as you might imagine,

431
00:22:42,700 --> 00:22:45,440
the police were called
and charges were filed.

432
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,400
And the guy who did it, what was his name?

433
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:54,400
Rick Painter, lovely fellow pled guilty

434
00:22:54,497 --> 00:22:59,497
and was sentenced to 14 months

435
00:23:00,210 --> 00:23:03,130
and ended up his sentence was reduced

436
00:23:03,130 --> 00:23:05,850
to basically time served

437
00:23:05,850 --> 00:23:10,770
by another fellow racist
judge in that community.

438
00:23:10,770 --> 00:23:15,000
And Maxine was just so
outraged by reading about it

439
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:20,000
in the paper that she did
a series of these quilts.

440
00:23:20,550 --> 00:23:21,383
And she said,

441
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my intention is to create
portraits of hate crime victims,

442
00:23:24,380 --> 00:23:27,300
to encourage dialogue about
how to change the focus

443
00:23:27,300 --> 00:23:31,120
from berating and belittling
people who may look different

444
00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:35,110
from others to accepting and
appreciating their differences.

445
00:23:35,110 --> 00:23:35,943
Nancy.

446
00:23:38,130 --> 00:23:41,150
- Okay, this is Shoshanna
Brombacher's work.

447
00:23:41,150 --> 00:23:45,250
And as you can see, pretty
wild stuff going on there.

448
00:23:45,250 --> 00:23:47,810
In Jewish folklore, a
Golem is a creature created

449
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for the mud and clay of the earth

450
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and is animated with
cabalistic spells by a rabbi

451
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to save the Jews in his community

452
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from violent attacks by non-Jews.

453
00:23:57,100 --> 00:23:59,300
A Golem is much larger
than an average man,

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has superhuman strength

455
00:24:00,580 --> 00:24:02,950
and wreaks havoc on the
inmates of the Jews.

456
00:24:02,950 --> 00:24:05,030
And Shoshannah's words,

457
00:24:05,030 --> 00:24:07,260
this Golem is my artistic response

458
00:24:07,260 --> 00:24:09,030
to the riots in Charlottesville,

459
00:24:09,030 --> 00:24:13,150
racists, antisemites, the KKK,
white supremacists and others

460
00:24:13,150 --> 00:24:14,610
promoted abject ideas

461
00:24:14,610 --> 00:24:17,260
that split unity and
harmony in this world.

462
00:24:17,260 --> 00:24:19,840
They marched the streets
with their flags and chants.

463
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,430
And initially were given
only half of the blame

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for the riots.

465
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And our last piece from,
Robin will describe.

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- Yes, hi.

467
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So this is the last
piece in our presentation

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that we have time for.

469
00:24:34,490 --> 00:24:39,240
And it's by at the Pacific
Northwest own, Marita Dingus,

470
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it's called Rwanda.

471
00:24:40,780 --> 00:24:44,390
And Rwanda, excuse me,

472
00:24:44,390 --> 00:24:49,370
Rwanda is an orphaned Tutsi child

473
00:24:49,370 --> 00:24:53,310
whose parents were murdered
by the rampaging Hutus

474
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in the 1994, civil war.

475
00:24:56,430 --> 00:25:00,000
This massacre, it blew
my mind when I found out,

476
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,240
but this massacre was fueled
by the constant hate speech

477
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,070
by disc jockeys on the radio.

478
00:25:07,070 --> 00:25:09,830
They ranted against the Tutsis

479
00:25:09,830 --> 00:25:11,240
and they call them cockroaches

480
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,660
and all kinds of disparaging names.

481
00:25:13,660 --> 00:25:15,210
And they encourage the Hutus

482
00:25:15,210 --> 00:25:17,610
to take up machetes against them.

483
00:25:17,610 --> 00:25:20,870
And they were excoriated
and encouraged so much,

484
00:25:20,870 --> 00:25:25,870
it was almost like what happened on 16.

485
00:25:25,970 --> 00:25:27,860
They did take up arms against them

486
00:25:27,860 --> 00:25:32,173
and there's just mass murder took place.

487
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,690
And the irony of all of
this is this doll is created

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00:25:38,830 --> 00:25:41,930
with bits of found object and junk,

489
00:25:41,930 --> 00:25:45,530
which is what Marita
is known to work with.

490
00:25:45,530 --> 00:25:47,490
And these people were murdered

491
00:25:47,490 --> 00:25:49,280
as if they were just so much garbage.

492
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,970
And this piece just
really resonates with me.

493
00:25:53,970 --> 00:25:55,570
Nancy, anything you wanna sum up?

494
00:25:55,570 --> 00:25:57,620
- Good place to end our long description.

495
00:25:57,620 --> 00:26:01,107
We can only show a few pieces
from this OCHS III show

496
00:26:01,107 --> 00:26:06,107
but you can go to our
vectorartistinitiative.com website,

497
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,480
and you can see the entire show,

498
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,073
which includes all the
texts from the artists

499
00:26:11,073 --> 00:26:15,410
describing their work and
why it fit in the show.

500
00:26:15,410 --> 00:26:19,200
It's really, we do enjoy
putting on a show like this,

501
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,920
where we have meaningful artwork and text,

502
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,097
which allows you to have
the artist's description.

503
00:26:25,097 --> 00:26:27,650
So that's it from us.

504
00:26:27,650 --> 00:26:28,483
- That is it.

505
00:26:28,483 --> 00:26:29,983
We're gonna throw it back to Andrea.

506
00:26:31,910 --> 00:26:33,310
- Now do we get out of here?

507
00:26:34,156 --> 00:26:35,990
(laughing)

508
00:26:35,990 --> 00:26:36,823
Escape.

509
00:26:36,823 --> 00:26:38,962
(laughing)

510
00:26:38,962 --> 00:26:41,550
- Impeccable timing you guys.

511
00:26:41,550 --> 00:26:42,383
- I know.

512
00:26:42,383 --> 00:26:44,090
- Erika did what I was about to do,

513
00:26:44,090 --> 00:26:46,410
which is putting the link
to your website in the chat.

514
00:26:46,410 --> 00:26:49,120
So reach, go check that
out to see if it works

515
00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:51,173
and Jen is next.

516
00:26:55,810 --> 00:26:57,010
- Great.

517
00:26:57,010 --> 00:26:58,010
Wow, that was amazing.

518
00:26:58,010 --> 00:26:58,843
Thank you so much.

519
00:26:58,843 --> 00:27:01,650
And thank you to professor
Andrus for inviting me.

520
00:27:01,650 --> 00:27:05,123
And I'm so excited to be on
the panel with everybody here.

521
00:27:07,023 --> 00:27:09,574
Give me one second to figure out this.

522
00:27:09,574 --> 00:27:12,274
This is my first time using
Teams, give me one second.

523
00:27:15,893 --> 00:27:17,943
I think I can get this.

524
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:19,673
Okay, it works.

525
00:27:19,673 --> 00:27:20,506
Can you see that?

526
00:27:23,630 --> 00:27:24,830
I'm assuming, yes, okay.

527
00:27:26,490 --> 00:27:29,330
So before I jump into the projects

528
00:27:29,330 --> 00:27:31,890
that I have been working on,

529
00:27:31,890 --> 00:27:35,050
I wanted to contextualize my
work or how I like to think

530
00:27:35,050 --> 00:27:38,790
or hope that my work
fits into the practice

531
00:27:39,690 --> 00:27:41,310
or something called social practice,

532
00:27:41,310 --> 00:27:43,670
which is the definition here.

533
00:27:43,670 --> 00:27:47,170
This art encompasses a range
of participatory strategies

534
00:27:47,170 --> 00:27:49,300
that work outside traditional context,

535
00:27:49,300 --> 00:27:52,030
to engage directly with
the public, government

536
00:27:52,030 --> 00:27:55,140
or other institutions to
realize their activist goals.

537
00:27:55,140 --> 00:27:57,810
And so really the art
is made with a purpose

538
00:27:57,810 --> 00:28:02,600
of intervening with
something and activating.

539
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,880
So I'll start here with
this project called

540
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,490
Amplifying Voices Mural Project.

541
00:28:07,490 --> 00:28:10,470
This was created in 2015
with my collaborator,

542
00:28:10,470 --> 00:28:11,965
Michelle Seyles.

543
00:28:11,965 --> 00:28:15,043
And it was in response at, in 2015,

544
00:28:16,225 --> 00:28:20,572
the planBTV: South End was
coming back up for review

545
00:28:20,572 --> 00:28:23,200
and BCA had a series of micro grants

546
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,390
that they were offering to artists

547
00:28:25,390 --> 00:28:27,870
to do some research and
gather some information

548
00:28:27,870 --> 00:28:30,882
from the community to bring
back to this weekend conference.

549
00:28:30,882 --> 00:28:33,270
When some of the decisions were being made

550
00:28:33,270 --> 00:28:35,830
about the future of planBTV.

551
00:28:35,830 --> 00:28:39,750
And so what Michelle and I did
is we worked with residents

552
00:28:39,750 --> 00:28:43,430
of affordable housing,
and in the South End,

553
00:28:43,430 --> 00:28:45,870
there was three different
affordable housing complexes

554
00:28:45,870 --> 00:28:47,300
that we work with residents.

555
00:28:47,300 --> 00:28:49,529
We did focus groups and interviews

556
00:28:49,529 --> 00:28:51,980
and had like large conversations

557
00:28:51,980 --> 00:28:54,000
and ask them about their
hopes, their dreams,

558
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,960
what was working, what wasn't working,

559
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,790
and kind of put all this together.

560
00:28:58,790 --> 00:29:00,030
We brought back a sketch to them.

561
00:29:00,030 --> 00:29:02,280
They said, go for it and
then we painted this mural.

562
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,810
I unfortunately don't have other pictures,

563
00:29:03,810 --> 00:29:06,510
I know it's hard to see,
but I'll try to explain,

564
00:29:06,510 --> 00:29:09,070
you'll see back here, lake
Champlain in the background,

565
00:29:09,070 --> 00:29:11,200
there's a triptych up here, the side here,

566
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,620
it looks at mostly community gardens

567
00:29:13,620 --> 00:29:15,828
and it really is about people feeling safe

568
00:29:15,828 --> 00:29:17,410
together in the waterfront.

569
00:29:17,410 --> 00:29:20,070
And there's people of
many different skin colors

570
00:29:20,070 --> 00:29:22,320
and backgrounds together feeling safe.

571
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,323
And that was something that
residents really spoke about

572
00:29:24,323 --> 00:29:25,730
that was important.

573
00:29:25,730 --> 00:29:30,600
On the right side here, we
see rooftop gardens and boats

574
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,950
and kind of leisurely
and accessible things.

575
00:29:34,950 --> 00:29:37,600
Right here is a solar powered bus stop,

576
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,800
we see Pine street, we see
Pine street right across here.

577
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,010
This is before the crosswalks were put in,

578
00:29:44,010 --> 00:29:47,590
so there was a hope for
crosswalks to make it more safe

579
00:29:47,590 --> 00:29:49,460
for more bus routes.

580
00:29:49,460 --> 00:29:51,720
And then the middle here,
what this represents,

581
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,497
is there a strong desire and
need for a community center

582
00:29:55,497 --> 00:29:56,900
that there was many residents,

583
00:29:56,900 --> 00:29:59,910
not only we spoke to who
either have mobility issues,

584
00:29:59,910 --> 00:30:02,440
and, or are restrained financially,

585
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,140
and weren't able to access some services

586
00:30:05,140 --> 00:30:07,210
in places that were downtown
or in the North end.

587
00:30:07,210 --> 00:30:09,690
And they just wanted
something in their community.

588
00:30:09,690 --> 00:30:11,930
So that's kind of the main components.

589
00:30:11,930 --> 00:30:14,210
There's a lot more details in here.

590
00:30:14,210 --> 00:30:17,580
And so we brought this
to the weekend conference

591
00:30:18,970 --> 00:30:21,280
in 2015 as part,

592
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,460
and trying to amplify the
voices of these residents

593
00:30:24,460 --> 00:30:25,833
in that conversation.

594
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:32,700
And the next project I
want to talk about here

595
00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:33,830
is the following year,

596
00:30:33,830 --> 00:30:36,820
this is a project called Think of Others.

597
00:30:36,820 --> 00:30:40,430
It was coordinated by
Vermonters protesters

598
00:30:40,430 --> 00:30:42,370
for peace in Palestine and Israel.

599
00:30:42,370 --> 00:30:46,470
They wanted to highlight the
work of poet, Mahmoud Darwish.

600
00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:49,530
And so his poem think of others, I think,

601
00:30:49,530 --> 00:30:50,410
no, I don't have it.

602
00:30:50,410 --> 00:30:52,510
I thought I'd put the text in here,

603
00:30:52,510 --> 00:30:55,110
is a seven line poem.

604
00:30:55,110 --> 00:31:00,110
And each line has a
counterpart think of others.

605
00:31:00,860 --> 00:31:02,230
And then it is specific.

606
00:31:02,230 --> 00:31:05,800
And so they asked seven
artists, myself included,

607
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:10,170
to make a piece that talks
about each of the lines.

608
00:31:10,170 --> 00:31:13,826
So this is the entire
project that was put up

609
00:31:13,826 --> 00:31:17,020
at the Art Hop in 2016, where it got,

610
00:31:17,020 --> 00:31:19,400
I would say, thousands of views.

611
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,830
And then this is the piece
that I personally worked on.

612
00:31:22,830 --> 00:31:26,520
And my line was, as you conduct
your wars, think of others,

613
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,533
do not forget those who seek peace.

614
00:31:35,550 --> 00:31:40,550
Okay, so in 2016, I came across
a coloring book of women.

615
00:31:43,090 --> 00:31:45,997
And I got so excited that
these were, some of the women,

616
00:31:45,997 --> 00:31:47,150
and many of the women in there

617
00:31:47,150 --> 00:31:49,450
were women who had been
inspirational to me

618
00:31:49,450 --> 00:31:54,400
in parts of my life that I
decided to take their portraits

619
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,030
and copy them onto Bristol board

620
00:31:57,030 --> 00:32:00,180
and started painting portraits
of them and painting them.

621
00:32:00,180 --> 00:32:02,870
And that got so exciting as I
was doing that more and more.

622
00:32:02,870 --> 00:32:04,130
I decided to think about like,

623
00:32:04,130 --> 00:32:08,850
who else has been influential
to me in my life as an artist,

624
00:32:08,850 --> 00:32:11,340
as a woman, as an
activist, as an educator?

625
00:32:11,340 --> 00:32:14,300
And then I started drawing
and painting portraits.

626
00:32:14,300 --> 00:32:16,820
And then as I kept going,
I started thinking,

627
00:32:16,820 --> 00:32:19,040
well, I should add biographies.

628
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,080
I want people to know about them.

629
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,390
I wanna know more about them,

630
00:32:21,390 --> 00:32:23,930
but I want to know about
them and share about them.

631
00:32:23,930 --> 00:32:25,560
What I think their words would be,

632
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,123
not what we always put onto artists.

633
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,930
And so there was a series of 10 pieces.

634
00:32:32,930 --> 00:32:37,930
This is Rachel Carson,
Billie Holiday, Mother Jones,

635
00:32:37,947 --> 00:32:42,947
Georgia O'Keefe, Yoko Ono,
Alice Neel, Grace Paley,

636
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,780
Ella Baker, and then Alice
Walker, and Paij Wadley Bailey.

637
00:32:49,780 --> 00:32:50,867
So I've been working on these.

638
00:32:50,867 --> 00:32:52,790
And I said, when I got
to 10, I would stop.

639
00:32:52,790 --> 00:32:55,510
And so last year I finally in
the middle of the pandemic,

640
00:32:55,510 --> 00:32:56,343
got to 10.

641
00:32:56,343 --> 00:33:01,226
And I am very slowly been
working on bringing this

642
00:33:01,226 --> 00:33:03,750
to a press and having to put into a book.

643
00:33:03,750 --> 00:33:05,360
So hopefully by the end of the summer,

644
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:06,460
that will be the case.

645
00:33:07,536 --> 00:33:12,267
So in 2019, I thought it was important to,

646
00:33:13,973 --> 00:33:15,700
I was doing a lot of
workshops and teaching

647
00:33:15,700 --> 00:33:17,590
and community work,

648
00:33:17,590 --> 00:33:20,120
not represented here and
really wanted to contain it

649
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,970
in a way that I could build that.

650
00:33:21,970 --> 00:33:24,800
And I took the women's
small business program

651
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:25,890
at Mercy Connections,

652
00:33:25,890 --> 00:33:28,543
and this project At the Root was born.

653
00:33:29,699 --> 00:33:31,040
I've been working on ever since.

654
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,300
What I wanna share with
you from vest right now

655
00:33:35,350 --> 00:33:36,450
is the work that I've been doing.

656
00:33:36,450 --> 00:33:39,430
So as a workshop facilitator,

657
00:33:39,430 --> 00:33:41,770
as one of the roles as an artist,

658
00:33:41,770 --> 00:33:46,770
and I see that as a way of
really bringing people together,

659
00:33:47,050 --> 00:33:50,470
one to learn art and to build skills,

660
00:33:50,470 --> 00:33:53,330
but also to make together,
create together and share.

661
00:33:53,330 --> 00:33:55,290
And in that, I think we build community.

662
00:33:55,290 --> 00:33:58,230
And I see that as a way of fighting back

663
00:33:58,230 --> 00:34:02,173
against all the different
things that hate is involved in.

664
00:34:03,370 --> 00:34:06,840
So first thing I wanted to just share here

665
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,050
was one of the first
projects that At the Root did

666
00:34:09,050 --> 00:34:14,050
was hosted a diorama
exhibit called the artists

667
00:34:14,470 --> 00:34:16,930
and 10 artists submitted dioramas

668
00:34:16,930 --> 00:34:19,670
that address different
pieces of climate change.

669
00:34:19,670 --> 00:34:21,010
And we ended up having two openings,

670
00:34:21,010 --> 00:34:22,560
this was the second one.

671
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,130
350 Vermont came and spoke
about some of the issues

672
00:34:26,130 --> 00:34:29,590
that were affecting us at that time.

673
00:34:29,590 --> 00:34:31,120
And we talked to the artists,

674
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,070
I was able to talk about their work.

675
00:34:33,070 --> 00:34:35,870
So it was really an opportunity
to educate each other

676
00:34:35,870 --> 00:34:37,373
through art and come together.

677
00:34:38,540 --> 00:34:41,030
Then I continued to work with 350 Vermont.

678
00:34:41,030 --> 00:34:44,070
I also worked with the Women's March.

679
00:34:44,070 --> 00:34:45,650
So on the left-hand side,

680
00:34:45,650 --> 00:34:48,630
this is when 350 Vermont
was doing a statewide march,

681
00:34:48,630 --> 00:34:50,670
and I worked with them.

682
00:34:50,670 --> 00:34:55,070
I can see is this in here we
kind of created these flags.

683
00:34:55,070 --> 00:34:57,270
This is the stencil that we used,

684
00:34:57,270 --> 00:34:59,770
that they all were on the
march to identify themselves.

685
00:34:59,770 --> 00:35:01,440
And then this was us
making this giant banner

686
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,140
that was in the beginning of the march.

687
00:35:03,140 --> 00:35:05,860
And then on the right-hand
side, this was for,

688
00:35:05,860 --> 00:35:09,140
I can't remember if it was
the International Women's Day

689
00:35:10,430 --> 00:35:12,590
or the women's march that
happened at the state house

690
00:35:12,590 --> 00:35:15,060
in January, but we had,

691
00:35:15,060 --> 00:35:18,030
this was a compilation of the
different signs and banners

692
00:35:18,030 --> 00:35:21,733
that people made to
address what was going on.

693
00:35:24,552 --> 00:35:26,040
This was the call to artists for that.

694
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,770
Oh, and same thing in 2019,

695
00:35:28,770 --> 00:35:32,610
I worked with CVO April's
Fair Housing Month.

696
00:35:32,610 --> 00:35:36,490
This was an exhibit that was
up at Fletcher free library.

697
00:35:36,490 --> 00:35:38,960
You'll see here is there
is a very simple drawing

698
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:39,810
of a home

699
00:35:41,220 --> 00:35:42,800
and invited people to
come in and talk about

700
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,417
what home is to them.

701
00:35:44,417 --> 00:35:48,090
And this is a way of really
highlighting home versus house

702
00:35:48,090 --> 00:35:51,730
and trying to combat
issues of homelessness.

703
00:35:51,730 --> 00:35:55,630
And so what we did was
created these different,

704
00:35:55,630 --> 00:35:57,130
it was kind of like refrigerator magnets,

705
00:35:57,130 --> 00:35:58,980
but there were different pieces
that people could write on

706
00:35:58,980 --> 00:36:00,350
and then they could move them around.

707
00:36:00,350 --> 00:36:02,650
And as people came in,
they added a move it around

708
00:36:02,650 --> 00:36:04,520
and became different stories and pictures.

709
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,220
And this is an early stage,

710
00:36:06,220 --> 00:36:08,670
but it was pretty full by
the end of the weekend.

711
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,790
This was a workshop I did in conjunction

712
00:36:12,790 --> 00:36:17,790
with the Fleming museum called
the Archives of Activism.

713
00:36:18,260 --> 00:36:20,820
And so I worked with Alice Boone

714
00:36:20,820 --> 00:36:24,810
and we talked about the
importance of archiving,

715
00:36:24,810 --> 00:36:26,190
of the work of activists and art

716
00:36:26,190 --> 00:36:30,160
and how we are able to
use art and art history

717
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,323
specifically to look at social movements

718
00:36:32,323 --> 00:36:34,670
and the changes that they've made.

719
00:36:34,670 --> 00:36:37,120
And so then we invited participants to,

720
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,440
we shared images that they
from different movements

721
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:41,630
that they resonated with

722
00:36:41,630 --> 00:36:44,610
and then taught linoleum block printing.

723
00:36:44,610 --> 00:36:46,600
And so this is the workshop at my studio

724
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,150
with the hive in the south end.

725
00:36:49,590 --> 00:36:53,360
Then this is just a fun
Valentine's day (mumbles) making.

726
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:58,100
And then last on these workshops here,

727
00:36:58,100 --> 00:36:59,640
this was I worked with Vermont

728
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,570
on access to reproductive freedom.

729
00:37:01,570 --> 00:37:02,930
I've worked with them a
couple of years in a row

730
00:37:02,930 --> 00:37:07,260
doing screen printing and they
make T-shirts and tote bags

731
00:37:07,260 --> 00:37:10,950
and patches and sell them as a fundraiser

732
00:37:10,950 --> 00:37:13,680
to raise money for women
who are financially unable

733
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,043
to access abortions to make
that available to Vermonters.

734
00:37:18,866 --> 00:37:19,699
So that's that.

735
00:37:19,699 --> 00:37:20,532
And then there's one more workshop

736
00:37:20,532 --> 00:37:25,440
I just wanted to quickly
mention, which is right here.

737
00:37:26,810 --> 00:37:30,270
I'm still figuring this
padlet thing out here.

738
00:37:30,270 --> 00:37:32,083
Let's see, that work?

739
00:37:34,205 --> 00:37:35,500
Here, nope.

740
00:37:35,500 --> 00:37:36,480
There it is.

741
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,410
So last October in 2020, I was able to,

742
00:37:40,410 --> 00:37:42,770
I am an adjunct faculty
at Champlain college

743
00:37:42,770 --> 00:37:45,160
and I was able to work with them

744
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,840
in my capacity as a teaching artist.

745
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,300
This is gonna take a second,
it looks like the coming up.

746
00:37:51,300 --> 00:37:55,070
And last year, the Vermont
Humanities Council,

747
00:37:55,070 --> 00:37:58,480
the Vermont reads book was The
Hate U Give by Angie Thomas,

748
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:03,480
which is a fiction novel based on a family

749
00:38:04,540 --> 00:38:08,620
whose community was
affected by police violence,

750
00:38:08,620 --> 00:38:09,950
where there was a murder

751
00:38:09,950 --> 00:38:12,400
because of police violence
in their community.

752
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,080
And so this book was
written I believe in 2017.

753
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,497
And so people across
the state are reading it

754
00:38:16,497 --> 00:38:18,747
and Champlan college
students are reading it.

755
00:38:19,690 --> 00:38:23,520
So we held the workshop and
basically they read the book.

756
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,260
We talked about the main,

757
00:38:25,260 --> 00:38:28,010
these are images from the
same workshop from earlier.

758
00:38:28,010 --> 00:38:31,210
What the main images and the main, sorry,

759
00:38:31,210 --> 00:38:33,150
the main issues that were in that book,

760
00:38:33,150 --> 00:38:34,090
and then, you know,

761
00:38:34,090 --> 00:38:37,155
three years later after
the murder of George Floyd,

762
00:38:37,155 --> 00:38:39,830
you know, there was a whole amplification

763
00:38:39,830 --> 00:38:42,930
and new insight into the same
issues that were in this book.

764
00:38:42,930 --> 00:38:44,350
So we compared and contrasted

765
00:38:44,350 --> 00:38:46,260
and talked about things were current.

766
00:38:46,260 --> 00:38:49,970
And then the students were
asked to make something

767
00:38:49,970 --> 00:38:51,950
that resonated that they wanted to share

768
00:38:51,950 --> 00:38:54,610
as ways of combating racism and hate.

769
00:38:54,610 --> 00:38:56,090
And then they also, again,

770
00:38:56,090 --> 00:38:58,191
learn from making were able

771
00:38:58,191 --> 00:38:59,110
to make their own million prints.

772
00:38:59,110 --> 00:39:01,150
I unfortunately don't have
pictures from the workshop,

773
00:39:01,150 --> 00:39:02,853
but I have this poster share.

774
00:39:06,060 --> 00:39:10,610
Also last year, if you remember
right around this time,

775
00:39:10,610 --> 00:39:11,443
last year,

776
00:39:11,443 --> 00:39:14,220
we were kind of in the
beginning of a flurry

777
00:39:14,220 --> 00:39:18,898
of climate change disasters
that were happening.

778
00:39:18,898 --> 00:39:23,898
And a lot of us were talking
about the relationship of COVID

779
00:39:24,930 --> 00:39:28,550
and climate change, how the
public health piece of that,

780
00:39:28,550 --> 00:39:32,060
how we were able to interact
with it more, how we were,

781
00:39:32,060 --> 00:39:34,480
how difficult it was to deal
with some of these things.

782
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,900
And so 350 Vermont did a call to artists

783
00:39:36,900 --> 00:39:38,890
and asked people to talk
about those connections

784
00:39:38,890 --> 00:39:42,340
between COVID and climate change.

785
00:39:42,340 --> 00:39:44,430
And I will coastally so you can see

786
00:39:44,430 --> 00:39:46,983
few other artists pieces.

787
00:39:48,780 --> 00:39:52,460
This is available on
online and also in print.

788
00:39:52,460 --> 00:39:57,460
And then the piece I made is right here.

789
00:40:00,457 --> 00:40:02,373
This is all digital.

790
00:40:03,780 --> 00:40:08,160
And this was a story about a
young whale that was found.

791
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,850
This is in June of last year,

792
00:40:11,850 --> 00:40:16,172
a young whale that because
of the quiet in the world

793
00:40:16,172 --> 00:40:19,200
found its way into the Harbor

794
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,050
of the St. Lawrence in Montreal.

795
00:40:21,050 --> 00:40:25,170
And it was kind of an awe
and something not unexpected

796
00:40:25,170 --> 00:40:27,520
and quite beautiful and scary,

797
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,820
like everything was happening
at that time last year.

798
00:40:29,820 --> 00:40:31,930
And then unfortunately,

799
00:40:31,930 --> 00:40:36,330
a few weeks later they found
the same young whale dead,

800
00:40:36,330 --> 00:40:39,410
and it looked like it was
the cause of a boat strike,

801
00:40:39,410 --> 00:40:42,950
meaning that it was killed
because of human activity.

802
00:40:42,950 --> 00:40:46,440
And to me, the story represented so deeply

803
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,080
about the impact of
responsibility and an agency

804
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,460
that we as humans have
with climate change.

805
00:40:52,460 --> 00:40:54,377
And so I submitted this.

806
00:40:54,377 --> 00:40:56,303
So that's this piece here.

807
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,360
And then I wanted to also,

808
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,321
this is a little bit of a different piece.

809
00:41:06,321 --> 00:41:07,490
But I wanted to share
a little bit of the art

810
00:41:07,490 --> 00:41:12,170
that I made over COVID, over
the last year during COVID.

811
00:41:12,170 --> 00:41:15,150
And it's just because
for me so much about this

812
00:41:15,150 --> 00:41:16,700
is about relationships

813
00:41:16,700 --> 00:41:19,220
and it's about unexpected relationships

814
00:41:19,220 --> 00:41:22,820
and relating more sometimes
to topics and people.

815
00:41:22,820 --> 00:41:26,020
This was a piece I submitted
to somebody else's project

816
00:41:26,020 --> 00:41:31,020
in Quebec, and she had sent
out these packets of material

817
00:41:31,410 --> 00:41:35,650
and embroidery yarn and said,
you know, here's a topic,

818
00:41:35,650 --> 00:41:36,580
make whatever.

819
00:41:36,580 --> 00:41:38,440
So I wove together different fabrics

820
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,700
and embroidered the
words abolish capitalism.

821
00:41:41,700 --> 00:41:43,400
And that is a part of,

822
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,270
I think there was a few hundred
people that submitted pieces

823
00:41:45,270 --> 00:41:47,040
of work that she's gonna
be putting together

824
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,003
in an exhibit.

825
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,740
And one of the things that I did last year

826
00:41:50,740 --> 00:41:53,560
was with all the meetings in the Zooms

827
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:54,900
and kind of getting stuck on the couch

828
00:41:54,900 --> 00:41:55,840
for long periods of time,

829
00:41:55,840 --> 00:42:00,840
I picked up embroidery as a way
to just keep myself occupied

830
00:42:01,270 --> 00:42:03,780
and keep my mind, just keep things going.

831
00:42:03,780 --> 00:42:06,430
And it was something that
was kind of new to me, but,

832
00:42:07,720 --> 00:42:10,040
and then this is an image of the workup

833
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,874
at the space gallery last year.

834
00:42:12,874 --> 00:42:14,909
And the reason why I'm sharing this,

835
00:42:14,909 --> 00:42:17,700
this is the one of the
pieces I did before COVID,

836
00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:22,187
but I didn't do a lot is that,
and some of them were just,

837
00:42:22,187 --> 00:42:23,020
(laughs)

838
00:42:23,020 --> 00:42:25,650
I needed to get something
off my test on this fun,

839
00:42:25,650 --> 00:42:27,490
but you'll see, here's a fist.

840
00:42:27,490 --> 00:42:29,010
These are vintage napkins.

841
00:42:29,010 --> 00:42:31,280
So I didn't do this
embroidery, but I added this.

842
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,873
It says always for love.

843
00:42:34,070 --> 00:42:36,630
This says, I didn't hug, touch, kiss,

844
00:42:36,630 --> 00:42:39,690
F another human being for 71 days.

845
00:42:39,690 --> 00:42:42,860
So that was, I don't
remember when that was,

846
00:42:42,860 --> 00:42:44,210
but that was a hard moment.

847
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,150
And then if you remember,

848
00:42:46,150 --> 00:42:50,260
rainbows were becoming
the symbol for I'm okay.

849
00:42:50,260 --> 00:42:51,410
People would put them in their windows

850
00:42:51,410 --> 00:42:53,360
to let people know that they were okay.

851
00:42:54,670 --> 00:42:57,110
And then CPU, SPS and vote.

852
00:42:57,110 --> 00:42:59,810
And the reason why I wanted
to share these was because

853
00:43:00,670 --> 00:43:04,570
for me, the idea of connection
to similar experiences

854
00:43:04,570 --> 00:43:08,390
really helps us humanize these
things and not feel so alone.

855
00:43:08,390 --> 00:43:11,688
And I think in that humanizing
and that feeling less alone,

856
00:43:11,688 --> 00:43:15,170
that we can't hurt those that we know.

857
00:43:15,170 --> 00:43:18,020
And so that helps us
to stop othering people

858
00:43:18,020 --> 00:43:21,470
and hoping to stop hating people.

859
00:43:21,470 --> 00:43:25,210
I'm not sure where I am on
time, but I think I'm okay.

860
00:43:25,210 --> 00:43:27,700
This is, so I was scheduled to do

861
00:43:27,700 --> 00:43:31,130
a series of murals last year,

862
00:43:31,130 --> 00:43:33,120
before COVID hit in the old North end,

863
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,840
and then had to pivot like everybody else,

864
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,486
ended up doing one mural.

865
00:43:39,486 --> 00:43:42,080
And this was the beginning of it.

866
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:46,057
And this was called,
it was supposed to be,

867
00:43:46,057 --> 00:43:48,280
we are the poor, the
people in our neighborhood

868
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,190
and as called, we didn't
expect this to happen.

869
00:43:51,190 --> 00:43:53,940
And I surveyed people
throughout Burlington

870
00:43:53,940 --> 00:43:56,563
using online surveys and phone calls

871
00:43:56,563 --> 00:43:58,740
to get everybody's experiences

872
00:43:58,740 --> 00:44:00,483
in the first two months of COVID.

873
00:44:01,563 --> 00:44:03,830
And so I painted this
mural, you'll see here,

874
00:44:03,830 --> 00:44:05,630
this is the beginning, this
is the beginning of this.

875
00:44:05,630 --> 00:44:07,890
There's the rainbow theme again.

876
00:44:07,890 --> 00:44:09,860
And these are just based on interviews.

877
00:44:09,860 --> 00:44:11,723
These are essential workers.

878
00:44:13,060 --> 00:44:14,710
I have some folks helping me out.

879
00:44:15,647 --> 00:44:17,066
You'll see the progress here.

880
00:44:17,066 --> 00:44:20,534
This was rookies root beer,

881
00:44:20,534 --> 00:44:23,270
one of the owners went
around in a dinosaur outfit

882
00:44:23,270 --> 00:44:27,200
that was very safe and mast
and just made people laugh.

883
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,580
And for me, that stood out a lot.

884
00:44:28,580 --> 00:44:31,570
That was something meaningful
to me and other people.

885
00:44:31,570 --> 00:44:33,810
So that got included.

886
00:44:33,810 --> 00:44:38,723
This is the full mural here.

887
00:44:39,890 --> 00:44:41,450
And so there's a little library,

888
00:44:41,450 --> 00:44:44,250
there's the parade of cars or trucks

889
00:44:44,250 --> 00:44:45,170
that say congratulations,

890
00:44:45,170 --> 00:44:46,640
the ups truck that kept showing up.

891
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,390
And then all in here are
little symbols of things,

892
00:44:49,390 --> 00:44:52,860
such as bread that people
were baking, sourdough,

893
00:44:52,860 --> 00:44:55,860
coffee and tea, and calling.

894
00:44:55,860 --> 00:44:58,800
There's a symbol here of
calling the Department of Labor

895
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,610
and social media, upticks and biking.

896
00:45:01,610 --> 00:45:04,970
And so things that were kind of prevalent

897
00:45:04,970 --> 00:45:08,800
in everybody's lives at
that time and in an uptick.

898
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,410
And then also I included,
there's a little garden

899
00:45:12,410 --> 00:45:15,250
Memorial garden for Ahmaud
Arbery, Breonna Taylor

900
00:45:15,250 --> 00:45:17,720
and George Floyd who were all murdered,

901
00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:22,233
right around the beginning
and of the pandemic last year.

902
00:45:23,180 --> 00:45:24,590
So that was in the 2020,

903
00:45:24,590 --> 00:45:27,200
and then I've one last project to share,

904
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,300
which just happened a couple of weeks ago.

905
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,050
It's called the opposite
of hate is mending.

906
00:45:33,050 --> 00:45:38,050
And this was a participatory installation

907
00:45:39,750 --> 00:45:43,050
in which I built a wooden quilt.

908
00:45:43,050 --> 00:45:48,050
I had 60 tiles that were
cut in a laser cutter

909
00:45:48,220 --> 00:45:49,710
that these are quilt squares.

910
00:45:49,710 --> 00:45:51,760
And when people showed up at the event,

911
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,950
they were given markers and asked,

912
00:45:53,950 --> 00:45:57,110
what do you need to mend
our society, our community,

913
00:45:57,110 --> 00:46:00,330
yourself, as we start
transitioning out of this pandemic.

914
00:46:00,330 --> 00:46:03,040
And while these were putting together,

915
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:07,040
here's an image of me here
slowly putting this together.

916
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,130
There was three dancers here with fabric

917
00:46:10,130 --> 00:46:12,590
and they braided the fabric together,

918
00:46:12,590 --> 00:46:14,740
mending this piece of
fabric back together.

919
00:46:15,630 --> 00:46:18,010
And then there was live music
happening at the same time

920
00:46:18,010 --> 00:46:21,440
to hold that together, you can
kind of see this in process.

921
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,263
Here's another picture in
progress as this was going.

922
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,270
And so at the very end,
where's the picture,

923
00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:30,600
this picture here,

924
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:34,100
the dancers brought the fabric
over as it was put together,

925
00:46:34,100 --> 00:46:35,500
it was mended back together, braided,

926
00:46:35,500 --> 00:46:37,723
and it was used as the quilt binding here.

927
00:46:38,570 --> 00:46:41,030
And so this was a live installation

928
00:46:41,030 --> 00:46:43,470
and everybody got to participate

929
00:46:43,470 --> 00:46:46,623
and it was totally lovely.

930
00:46:47,630 --> 00:46:51,950
And so I think that that's
all I've got for everybody.

931
00:46:51,950 --> 00:46:53,550
Let me figure out how to
get back to the Teams.

932
00:46:53,550 --> 00:46:54,383
There you go.

933
00:46:55,460 --> 00:46:57,360
Okay, thank you so much for your time.

934
00:46:58,660 --> 00:46:59,493
- Jen, thank you.

935
00:46:59,493 --> 00:47:00,810
That was lovely.

936
00:47:00,810 --> 00:47:02,735
And another impeccably timed (laughs)

937
00:47:02,735 --> 00:47:04,670
(indistinct) things cool.

938
00:47:04,670 --> 00:47:05,920
I'm gonna check that out.

939
00:47:06,813 --> 00:47:08,230
And next we have Misoo.

940
00:47:10,030 --> 00:47:12,570
- Hi everyone, I'm Misoo.

941
00:47:12,570 --> 00:47:15,170
Thank you, Andrea for having me

942
00:47:15,170 --> 00:47:18,430
and thank you Jen and Nancy and Robin

943
00:47:18,430 --> 00:47:22,160
for sharing your stories and
your work and your passion.

944
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,200
We're very informative and educational.

945
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,763
I am going to share my screen.

946
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,003
Can you see the screen?

947
00:47:51,210 --> 00:47:53,810
- Yes.

948
00:47:53,810 --> 00:47:54,833
- Yes, okay.

949
00:47:55,837 --> 00:47:57,187
So I'll just minimize this.

950
00:48:00,750 --> 00:48:03,027
Right, so my name's Misoo,

951
00:48:04,383 --> 00:48:09,110
I am a visual artist who works
to celebrate how our females,

952
00:48:11,010 --> 00:48:14,450
especially Asian girls living in America

953
00:48:14,450 --> 00:48:15,850
and also a woman

954
00:48:15,850 --> 00:48:18,593
for domestic violence
victims and survivors.

955
00:48:19,730 --> 00:48:23,290
I am going to share
some of my early works,

956
00:48:23,290 --> 00:48:24,910
what I was making.

957
00:48:24,910 --> 00:48:26,580
When I first came to America,

958
00:48:26,580 --> 00:48:28,600
I came to America when I was 17

959
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,960
and I started painting as
a form of communication

960
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,110
because my English was second language

961
00:48:34,110 --> 00:48:39,110
and I had no way of
communicating with other people.

962
00:48:39,820 --> 00:48:44,820
So I start painting instead
of speaking and writing.

963
00:48:46,530 --> 00:48:47,710
At the time,

964
00:48:47,710 --> 00:48:50,090
the reason I am showing this painting is

965
00:48:50,090 --> 00:48:55,090
the girl that I start depicting
when I was 17, 18 years old,

966
00:48:56,180 --> 00:49:01,020
it was are very different than
what I am painting right now.

967
00:49:01,020 --> 00:49:04,310
I usually painted this alone girl images

968
00:49:04,310 --> 00:49:07,493
who are usually trapped
in her environment.

969
00:49:08,430 --> 00:49:13,190
You can see her room is
filled with bird cages,

970
00:49:13,190 --> 00:49:14,950
which symbolized her entrapment.

971
00:49:14,950 --> 00:49:17,460
She has a fake rings on her back,

972
00:49:17,460 --> 00:49:19,360
which she cannot fly very well.

973
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,370
And that's just how I kind of
how I was feeling at the time.

974
00:49:23,370 --> 00:49:26,160
Came to America, not
able to speak language,

975
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,770
I got diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes

976
00:49:28,770 --> 00:49:30,533
and my dad just passed away.

977
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,170
And with all that going on,
have no friends, no family.

978
00:49:35,170 --> 00:49:37,823
My mom was a full-time
workers, single mother,

979
00:49:39,420 --> 00:49:41,523
just being in here, alienate me,

980
00:49:44,590 --> 00:49:49,590
and I see myself very small
compared to my environment.

981
00:49:50,850 --> 00:49:55,850
I am now in this beautiful,
humongous country

982
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,050
they call it United States of America.

983
00:49:59,050 --> 00:50:02,260
And I have banquet in front of me,

984
00:50:02,260 --> 00:50:05,670
which I am not sure if I
can eat them, if I cannot.

985
00:50:05,670 --> 00:50:08,430
I wasn't sure if I belonged here,

986
00:50:08,430 --> 00:50:12,250
I always felt that I wasn't a welcome,

987
00:50:12,250 --> 00:50:17,250
always felt I was this
skinny, small, Asian girl

988
00:50:17,439 --> 00:50:21,093
who will never be a main
character in this country.

989
00:50:23,870 --> 00:50:27,650
While I was in school, I started
collecting porcelain dolls

990
00:50:27,650 --> 00:50:32,650
and drawing in this very disturbing images

991
00:50:33,350 --> 00:50:37,580
of them getting raped by
invisible perpetrators.

992
00:50:37,580 --> 00:50:40,440
I made many drawings of these dolls

993
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,213
and titled them the rape doll series.

994
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:50,880
And I was not sure why I was making these

995
00:50:51,550 --> 00:50:56,100
over and over again until I found

996
00:50:56,100 --> 00:51:00,080
that I had this repressed
memory of a child sexual abuse

997
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,510
from my family members,

998
00:51:02,510 --> 00:51:04,730
from when I was about 10 years old,

999
00:51:04,730 --> 00:51:06,853
to like 13, 14 years old.

1000
00:51:07,926 --> 00:51:10,120
It was always there in back of my mind,

1001
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,390
but I never had a courage to deal with it,

1002
00:51:13,390 --> 00:51:14,963
to speak up about it.

1003
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:20,450
But I realized that it
has been affecting my life

1004
00:51:20,450 --> 00:51:22,040
the whole time.

1005
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,000
This one is called the
gentleman's collection.

1006
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:29,710
And then the girls usually,

1007
00:51:29,710 --> 00:51:33,040
the girls in my paintings
usually are my self portrait.

1008
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:37,450
They might not look like
me, but they are myself,

1009
00:51:37,450 --> 00:51:38,760
emotional self portrait.

1010
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,020
And I collected all these dolls around her

1011
00:51:42,020 --> 00:51:44,503
and she is on the couch,

1012
00:51:45,860 --> 00:51:50,130
also feeling trapped and
behind the screen here,

1013
00:51:50,130 --> 00:51:52,380
there's a little hole
and there's a gentleman

1014
00:51:53,590 --> 00:51:56,550
hiding behind the screen
and peeking through this

1015
00:51:56,550 --> 00:52:00,790
and enjoying his pervasive collection

1016
00:52:00,790 --> 00:52:04,550
that he's tased and watching us.

1017
00:52:04,550 --> 00:52:08,840
So that really shows how
I was feeling at the time,

1018
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:13,370
that helpless little
weak girl, Asian girl,

1019
00:52:13,370 --> 00:52:14,493
living in America.

1020
00:52:16,429 --> 00:52:18,050
This one is called a monster in me.

1021
00:52:18,050 --> 00:52:22,340
This is actually the first
time I depicted my perpetrator

1022
00:52:22,340 --> 00:52:25,870
in my painting after I
recovered the memory.

1023
00:52:25,870 --> 00:52:28,630
And even though I was
a grown up woman now,

1024
00:52:28,630 --> 00:52:31,283
I was still afraid of this guy.

1025
00:52:32,540 --> 00:52:35,020
I was not able to confront him.

1026
00:52:35,020 --> 00:52:39,170
I was not able to speak up about it

1027
00:52:39,170 --> 00:52:42,540
and the waters filling up the room

1028
00:52:42,540 --> 00:52:44,580
because I'm scared of water.

1029
00:52:44,580 --> 00:52:47,360
I was almost drowned when I was little

1030
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:51,950
and he's just dirty, fat,
it's just melting down

1031
00:52:51,950 --> 00:52:56,543
and floating around the room
and climbing back on my leg.

1032
00:52:59,100 --> 00:53:02,300
After awhile, I was having hard time.

1033
00:53:02,300 --> 00:53:05,670
It was very challenging to
depict this narrative stories

1034
00:53:05,670 --> 00:53:07,530
of my memory.

1035
00:53:07,530 --> 00:53:10,630
So I changed to an abstract work

1036
00:53:10,630 --> 00:53:13,770
because it was a little
easier to deal with it.

1037
00:53:13,770 --> 00:53:18,770
I did not have to see visual
scene of a little girl

1038
00:53:19,610 --> 00:53:22,610
getting raped or a visual
scene of a little girl

1039
00:53:22,610 --> 00:53:25,810
got trapped in her environment.

1040
00:53:25,810 --> 00:53:29,050
So I used the ink mark, abstract ink mark

1041
00:53:29,050 --> 00:53:30,650
to symbolize perpetrator.

1042
00:53:30,650 --> 00:53:35,650
And I drew this very delicate child's hair

1043
00:53:36,190 --> 00:53:39,820
that depicts a child, a victim,

1044
00:53:39,820 --> 00:53:42,760
and she is completely helpless.

1045
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,270
She is completely under
the power of a perpetrator,

1046
00:53:46,270 --> 00:53:50,400
and it really depicts
how the child system is

1047
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,440
at the time when she is getting raped,

1048
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:58,040
she's getting sexually
abused by her family members,

1049
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,832
especially when a child does
not have any place to go

1050
00:54:01,832 --> 00:54:03,263
for help.

1051
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:09,130
The child is confused
between abuse and love.

1052
00:54:09,130 --> 00:54:14,130
Child is questioning if she's
okay, if this is my fault.

1053
00:54:17,170 --> 00:54:19,760
This one is called Over My Silent Body

1054
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,860
and it's a depiction of child victim

1055
00:54:22,860 --> 00:54:26,693
overpowered by perpetrator.

1056
00:54:28,010 --> 00:54:29,870
These paintings are pretty large,

1057
00:54:29,870 --> 00:54:34,870
it is five feet high and eight feet wide.

1058
00:54:36,010 --> 00:54:40,920
The reason I used this large
painting Nottage paper was,

1059
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:45,320
I wanted to indicate two people
the space where two people

1060
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,083
are struggling together.

1061
00:54:48,895 --> 00:54:51,697
This is another one that depict a child,

1062
00:54:51,697 --> 00:54:55,080
the victim psychology
it's called Ripped Apart.

1063
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:59,860
I used the pink paints here

1064
00:54:59,860 --> 00:55:04,590
to indicate child's body fluid coming out.

1065
00:55:04,590 --> 00:55:09,590
I also used acrylic
medium around the painting

1066
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:15,880
to indicate perpetrator is
ejaculating all around the paper.

1067
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:22,293
So even though it was abstract piece,

1068
00:55:23,210 --> 00:55:27,390
I was exploring how I
was feeling at the time.

1069
00:55:27,390 --> 00:55:30,990
It was the first time I
was kind of understanding

1070
00:55:30,990 --> 00:55:34,640
and then understanding what happened to me

1071
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,253
and expressing it through art.

1072
00:55:39,255 --> 00:55:44,255
As the work to develop,
the hair got stronger,

1073
00:55:44,750 --> 00:55:48,007
the hair got darker and longer.

1074
00:55:50,460 --> 00:55:55,460
And I called these a mother's
hair because I was a new mom.

1075
00:55:55,514 --> 00:56:00,514
And I drew this hair
probably about 300 plus hours

1076
00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:04,200
on the paper.

1077
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:08,830
And because I was crawling on
the paper after 15 minutes,

1078
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:14,110
my wrist hurts, neck hurts,
back hurts, everything hurts.

1079
00:56:14,110 --> 00:56:19,110
And that pain was significant
while I was making the art

1080
00:56:21,130 --> 00:56:25,240
because I was making more
and more of a mother's hair

1081
00:56:25,240 --> 00:56:28,693
to fight with the perpetrator
that I will pour all over.

1082
00:56:30,100 --> 00:56:34,440
After I drew like 300 plus hours of hair,

1083
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,900
mother's hair and a
child hair underneath it,

1084
00:56:36,900 --> 00:56:41,360
I ruined this painting
by pouring ink all over,

1085
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,190
because that was what it was.

1086
00:56:44,190 --> 00:56:48,110
That was the perpetrator
ruined that precious moment.

1087
00:56:48,110 --> 00:56:50,423
It ruined the precious life of a child.

1088
00:56:55,180 --> 00:57:00,180
This is close up of that same
piece after the ink was dried,

1089
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:04,610
I was still upset that the
ink is covering all the hair,

1090
00:57:04,610 --> 00:57:08,230
so I pour water on top of it.

1091
00:57:08,230 --> 00:57:10,740
And I was physically
fighting the perpetrator

1092
00:57:10,740 --> 00:57:13,853
on my huge paper, I was scratching it,

1093
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,943
I was ripping it and I was scrubbing it.

1094
00:57:19,820 --> 00:57:23,090
So this hair, mother's hair was revealed

1095
00:57:23,090 --> 00:57:25,840
underneath this dark ink

1096
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,823
is still covering a child's
hair as a protector.

1097
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,203
I called this piece, I am The Barrier.

1098
00:57:39,350 --> 00:57:41,490
This is another piece that I,

1099
00:57:41,490 --> 00:57:45,370
oh, this is the only piece
that I used my figure,

1100
00:57:45,370 --> 00:57:48,540
and my daughter's figure
in the abstract piece

1101
00:57:48,540 --> 00:57:52,083
is me and my daughter hugging,
and we are in emotion.

1102
00:57:52,940 --> 00:57:56,900
That's why you see like two
heads of my daughter's head,

1103
00:57:56,900 --> 00:57:59,233
couple hands of my hands.

1104
00:58:01,070 --> 00:58:05,150
And this one is eight feet wide,

1105
00:58:05,150 --> 00:58:10,150
no eight feet high,
and 15 feet wide piece.

1106
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,520
And I titled this one, Cocoon

1107
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:18,700
and me and my daughter are
here in this mess together.

1108
00:58:18,700 --> 00:58:23,663
And I am protecting her with
my experience, my memory.

1109
00:58:27,290 --> 00:58:31,803
After a while, years of
making these abstract pieces,

1110
00:58:33,810 --> 00:58:36,700
I change it the piece,

1111
00:58:36,700 --> 00:58:40,570
I display these pieces vertically
instead of horizontally,

1112
00:58:40,570 --> 00:58:42,130
and the piece got bigger too.

1113
00:58:42,130 --> 00:58:45,913
Now it is five feet wide and 15 feet long.

1114
00:58:47,850 --> 00:58:52,850
And I changed the display
from horizontal to vertical

1115
00:58:52,930 --> 00:58:57,930
because now it is not a bad shape

1116
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,320
where two people are struggling,

1117
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,413
but it is a shape of a mother's long hair,

1118
00:59:03,413 --> 00:59:05,330
a mother's strong hair.

1119
00:59:05,330 --> 00:59:10,220
And instead of I am trapped
in perpetrators territory,

1120
00:59:10,220 --> 00:59:15,130
I am inviting the perpetrator
inside my territory.

1121
00:59:15,130 --> 00:59:20,130
On top of this paper, I
ripped the perpetrator.

1122
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:25,800
Sometimes I'd attach
tapes on it and pour ink,

1123
00:59:27,030 --> 00:59:31,220
and I ripped the paper off with the ink.

1124
00:59:31,220 --> 00:59:34,460
So I am removing the
perpetrator from my territory,

1125
00:59:34,460 --> 00:59:39,460
and I am also displaying
that for everybody to see.

1126
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,103
So I am displaying,
this is the perpetrator,

1127
00:59:42,103 --> 00:59:47,103
this is the person who hurt
us, hurt me when I was a child.

1128
00:59:48,300 --> 00:59:53,300
Through this, I gained a lot
of power, as you can see,

1129
00:59:54,540 --> 00:59:59,540
I start as this powerless,
weak victim, a little child.

1130
01:00:00,460 --> 01:00:05,460
When I first regained a memory
of domestic childhood abuse,

1131
01:00:06,580 --> 01:00:08,827
I couldn't really function.

1132
01:00:08,827 --> 01:00:11,730
I wasn't able to make any more art.

1133
01:00:11,730 --> 01:00:14,890
I had to this slump for a while.

1134
01:00:14,890 --> 01:00:18,210
And then I start making abstract work,

1135
01:00:18,210 --> 01:00:20,750
depicting myself as a child victim.

1136
01:00:20,750 --> 01:00:24,370
And then that child victim
grew to be a mother,

1137
01:00:24,370 --> 01:00:29,003
and that mother become a
protector and a creator.

1138
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,880
This is kind of how I start.

1139
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,040
This one is actually getting bigger,

1140
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,320
five feet wide and 30 feet long.

1141
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:42,420
I seen myself keep thinking
I was trapped in this

1142
01:00:42,420 --> 01:00:43,740
dark ink pieces.

1143
01:00:43,740 --> 01:00:47,740
So that's why he was
getting longer and longer.

1144
01:00:47,740 --> 01:00:52,330
You can kind of see me in
the middle of the piece

1145
01:00:52,330 --> 01:00:54,740
so you can kind of see how big it is

1146
01:00:54,740 --> 01:00:58,483
and how time consuming
to make these pieces is.

1147
01:01:03,140 --> 01:01:07,020
After awhile, because I felt so captured,

1148
01:01:07,020 --> 01:01:11,670
so trapped in this perfect
rectangular canvas,

1149
01:01:11,670 --> 01:01:14,370
one day I got drunk and I came home

1150
01:01:14,370 --> 01:01:19,360
and I saw this perfect
rectangular shape of perpetrators,

1151
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,100
and I got so upset I ripped everything.

1152
01:01:22,100 --> 01:01:27,100
I cut them with scissors
and display everywhere.

1153
01:01:27,420 --> 01:01:30,214
And this one is actually
a Champlain Collegey

1154
01:01:30,214 --> 01:01:32,390
installation piece.

1155
01:01:32,390 --> 01:01:37,390
And I made this a big cave like ink club

1156
01:01:41,540 --> 01:01:45,330
and invited viewers inside where I was.

1157
01:01:45,330 --> 01:01:50,330
This is kind of my last piece
(indistinct) abstract piece.

1158
01:01:50,450 --> 01:01:52,700
This one is called chrysanthemum.

1159
01:01:52,700 --> 01:01:56,290
I drew chrysanthemum
flower all over this paper

1160
01:01:56,290 --> 01:01:59,330
because in chrysanthemum, in Korea,

1161
01:01:59,330 --> 01:02:04,330
we use this flower in
funerals to send people away.

1162
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:06,993
So for me,

1163
01:02:06,993 --> 01:02:09,760
I realized after about
four years of making

1164
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:11,690
these abstract pieces,

1165
01:02:11,690 --> 01:02:15,330
I realized I gained myself back again.

1166
01:02:15,330 --> 01:02:19,857
I will never be the same
person, and before I was raped,

1167
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:26,980
but I gained my power through making art.

1168
01:02:26,980 --> 01:02:30,350
And chrysanthemum is also
the flower that blooms

1169
01:02:30,350 --> 01:02:34,883
after like first cold,
the first snow like mums.

1170
01:02:35,859 --> 01:02:40,020
So they go through this hard
night obstacles in their life

1171
01:02:42,350 --> 01:02:45,970
and they don't compete with
these beautiful summers, spring,

1172
01:02:45,970 --> 01:02:46,920
fall flowers.

1173
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:51,650
They bloom at the late latest
and they bloom beautifully.

1174
01:02:51,650 --> 01:02:54,620
And that's kind of how I saw myself,

1175
01:02:54,620 --> 01:02:58,047
went through turmoils in my life

1176
01:02:58,047 --> 01:03:02,173
but I was able to be more
powerful than before.

1177
01:03:03,930 --> 01:03:07,480
After a while I started
making this painting

1178
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,640
called giant Asian girls.

1179
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:14,640
I start with the replacing
white female Disney characters

1180
01:03:16,270 --> 01:03:18,710
to Asian female characters.

1181
01:03:18,710 --> 01:03:20,320
Because like I said before,

1182
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:24,830
I always felt like I did not belong here.

1183
01:03:24,830 --> 01:03:25,940
That I was alienated.

1184
01:03:25,940 --> 01:03:30,200
That I grew up with
this Disney fairytales,

1185
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,920
Christian Anderson and
green brothers stories

1186
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:38,600
read Richard scary stories
in Korea growing up.

1187
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:40,460
But when I came to America,

1188
01:03:40,460 --> 01:03:44,950
I realized that I might never
be the main character here

1189
01:03:44,950 --> 01:03:49,610
that I thought I will be the
Cinderella type of person

1190
01:03:49,610 --> 01:03:52,470
or the main character
in Alice in Wonderland.

1191
01:03:52,470 --> 01:03:56,090
But the people around us
did not see me like that.

1192
01:03:56,090 --> 01:03:59,260
I was just that little Asian
girl, so that really upset me

1193
01:03:59,260 --> 01:04:02,610
and I replacing these Disney characters

1194
01:04:02,610 --> 01:04:07,610
in Western fairy tale characters
with the Asian people.

1195
01:04:07,650 --> 01:04:10,463
This one is called Sleeping Beauty.

1196
01:04:13,330 --> 01:04:16,443
This one is again, Alice in Wonderland.

1197
01:04:20,340 --> 01:04:24,490
I also realized in America, Asian people,

1198
01:04:24,490 --> 01:04:29,490
Asian females are seen
in a particular way.

1199
01:04:30,190 --> 01:04:32,963
This one is images from Mr. Saigon,

1200
01:04:34,270 --> 01:04:39,270
and this Asian woman,

1201
01:04:39,340 --> 01:04:41,863
being Mrs. Saigon and Madam Butterfly.

1202
01:04:42,930 --> 01:04:47,930
They are the Asian females
who are weak and small,

1203
01:04:48,290 --> 01:04:53,113
and who's obedient, who are
waiting for white male heroes.

1204
01:04:54,376 --> 01:04:58,493
And the stories are written
by white male authors.

1205
01:04:59,350 --> 01:05:01,713
They are there to save us.

1206
01:05:02,873 --> 01:05:07,873
Like why would an Asian
woman pick an Asian men

1207
01:05:09,290 --> 01:05:12,270
when we can pick a white men?

1208
01:05:12,270 --> 01:05:14,850
That's kind of what it is here.

1209
01:05:14,850 --> 01:05:18,860
She's always Madame
Butterfly and Mrs Saigon,

1210
01:05:18,860 --> 01:05:22,353
they are prostitutes.

1211
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:27,153
They sell their bodies, but
there are also obedient,

1212
01:05:29,590 --> 01:05:31,760
they will wait for their lovers.

1213
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:36,760
They will do everything
they can do to be faithful,

1214
01:05:37,670 --> 01:05:40,770
but they can also fulfill White men

1215
01:05:41,670 --> 01:05:43,560
wildest sexual fantasies

1216
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:48,130
After seeing Asian women like that

1217
01:05:48,130 --> 01:05:52,530
I realized my Asian woman in my paintings

1218
01:05:52,530 --> 01:05:56,360
kind of had that post of submissive,

1219
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,183
they are always looking away,

1220
01:05:59,183 --> 01:06:03,200
they have this body language of not sure

1221
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,313
of what they are looking for.

1222
01:06:06,930 --> 01:06:11,930
So as I start comparing
them with how white women

1223
01:06:13,230 --> 01:06:16,200
were depicted in Western
paintings as well,

1224
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:18,430
like how light they were,

1225
01:06:18,430 --> 01:06:22,850
how light, they are lighter than like foam

1226
01:06:22,850 --> 01:06:24,360
and lighter than water,

1227
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:28,750
how they are almost
boneless and twisted body.

1228
01:06:28,750 --> 01:06:33,233
They always like allure
men with this gazes,

1229
01:06:36,790 --> 01:06:37,990
how Aphelia,

1230
01:06:39,402 --> 01:06:44,402
is so beautiful in this water
after she killed herself,

1231
01:06:44,460 --> 01:06:48,830
how sleeping woman, how sick woman,

1232
01:06:48,830 --> 01:06:52,720
how suicidal woman are
idealizing the Western culture

1233
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:59,520
and how Asian women are seen
in Western culture as well.

1234
01:06:59,810 --> 01:07:02,510
They always compliment
of how young we look,

1235
01:07:02,510 --> 01:07:05,070
how our hairs look so silky,

1236
01:07:05,070 --> 01:07:08,040
how our skin is pale enough

1237
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:11,060
to fulfill the white people's desire.

1238
01:07:11,060 --> 01:07:13,177
But also we do not have these,

1239
01:07:13,177 --> 01:07:15,850
the white woman's strong personality.

1240
01:07:15,850 --> 01:07:18,520
We are culturally submissive.

1241
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:21,373
We are culturally good
mother and good wives.

1242
01:07:24,583 --> 01:07:26,920
Compare with that, the male portraits

1243
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:28,873
are depicted very differently.

1244
01:07:30,250 --> 01:07:34,370
Like David's Napoleon and
John Singer Sargent was built.

1245
01:07:34,370 --> 01:07:36,570
Theodore Roosevelt president,

1246
01:07:36,570 --> 01:07:39,190
they all like have their space.

1247
01:07:39,190 --> 01:07:41,750
They are owning their environment.

1248
01:07:41,750 --> 01:07:44,270
They're intelligent, they're powerful.

1249
01:07:44,270 --> 01:07:49,270
So I started using these poses
on my guy and Asian girls.

1250
01:07:49,470 --> 01:07:54,470
First too, I used myself as
a model because I didn't,

1251
01:07:55,210 --> 01:07:58,520
I was having hard time finding
a picture of Asian woman,

1252
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:00,920
having this confident poses.

1253
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,510
Before I used a lot of magazine pictures,

1254
01:08:03,510 --> 01:08:06,270
but all this magazine
pictures in a woman's world,

1255
01:08:06,270 --> 01:08:08,050
objectified and sexualized.

1256
01:08:08,050 --> 01:08:10,343
So I started using my self portrait.

1257
01:08:11,270 --> 01:08:16,207
This is the post from David's
Napoleon and they are,

1258
01:08:18,030 --> 01:08:22,650
the backgrounds are the
highest to Western culture.

1259
01:08:22,650 --> 01:08:27,650
They are Baroque and Renaissance
and Gothic architectures.

1260
01:08:29,290 --> 01:08:30,310
This is how it started,

1261
01:08:30,310 --> 01:08:32,740
I take a picture of myself

1262
01:08:32,740 --> 01:08:37,740
and do a little sketch
first layer of painting.

1263
01:08:39,700 --> 01:08:44,700
I collage the Paul Bunyan
American lumberjack giant hero.

1264
01:08:45,620 --> 01:08:47,440
He is below my feet.

1265
01:08:47,440 --> 01:08:49,910
I am not trying to crush him.

1266
01:08:49,910 --> 01:08:53,150
So, you know, I am just
aware that he's there.

1267
01:08:53,150 --> 01:08:55,439
I'm like, oh, you are there.

1268
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:58,573
I heard you're a giant,
but here you're very small.

1269
01:09:00,870 --> 01:09:05,870
I put soldiers and religious
leaders below my feet,

1270
01:09:08,470 --> 01:09:13,300
and it is very satisfying
and almost reversing

1271
01:09:13,300 --> 01:09:17,010
what I hear from other people in America,

1272
01:09:17,010 --> 01:09:21,070
how people are calling me when
I'm walking with my daughter,

1273
01:09:21,070 --> 01:09:22,930
people are constantly asking me

1274
01:09:22,930 --> 01:09:25,447
if I'm a nanny to my own daughter.

1275
01:09:25,447 --> 01:09:30,447
I was thinking, why would white woman

1276
01:09:32,110 --> 01:09:34,320
holding hands with colored kids,

1277
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:38,610
they assume these people
adopted these kids

1278
01:09:38,610 --> 01:09:42,223
and Asian woman or colored mom,

1279
01:09:43,270 --> 01:09:47,013
when they're with white kids
you assume we are nannies.

1280
01:09:50,681 --> 01:09:55,277
The children characters on
kolaches are not about innocence

1281
01:09:56,540 --> 01:09:58,020
in both of the child,

1282
01:09:58,020 --> 01:10:03,020
who it is more about children's
tantrum and ignorance,

1283
01:10:05,340 --> 01:10:09,317
stereotypical hate
speech, ignorant comments,

1284
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:14,160
how Asian woman should act.

1285
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:17,473
So it's a depiction of a
chaotic world around me.

1286
01:10:18,450 --> 01:10:23,450
And I got many volunteers who
would like to be my (mumbles)

1287
01:10:24,990 --> 01:10:29,990
these women all went
through hate speeches,

1288
01:10:30,350 --> 01:10:35,350
theory could be called judgment slashes.

1289
01:10:35,630 --> 01:10:40,630
And we've been asked, after
the rise of Asian hate crime

1290
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:44,085
these days after Donald Trump

1291
01:10:44,085 --> 01:10:49,040
constantly talking about
Kung flu and Chinese virus,

1292
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:52,410
I've been asked to when I
was telling one of my friends

1293
01:10:52,410 --> 01:10:54,120
that I'm going to Asian markets,

1294
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:58,103
she asked me if I am going to
the market to buy bat meat,

1295
01:10:59,000 --> 01:10:59,833
something like that,

1296
01:10:59,833 --> 01:11:04,010
the people don't even think
about they are hurting us,

1297
01:11:04,010 --> 01:11:06,070
it's a joke to them.

1298
01:11:06,070 --> 01:11:11,070
They talk about, they are
dressed as in for Halloween,

1299
01:11:11,480 --> 01:11:13,660
they are dressed as a Chinese slut

1300
01:11:13,660 --> 01:11:17,350
and her boyfriend was
a US military person.

1301
01:11:17,350 --> 01:11:19,730
That might be funny to them,

1302
01:11:19,730 --> 01:11:22,960
and then thinking they
can share that with me,

1303
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:27,810
but if you really think about
it, it's really hurting us.

1304
01:11:27,810 --> 01:11:31,253
And this is my response
to all these speeches,

1305
01:11:34,900 --> 01:11:38,090
and I have many volunteers
who went through,

1306
01:11:38,090 --> 01:11:42,910
Asian people who got
adapted to American culture,

1307
01:11:42,910 --> 01:11:45,020
who got adopted to American family,

1308
01:11:45,020 --> 01:11:48,820
who was born and raised here

1309
01:11:48,820 --> 01:11:51,923
constantly asked if they're
international students.

1310
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:59,380
When my mother was holding my
daughter's hand the other day,

1311
01:11:59,380 --> 01:12:00,880
somebody asked her,

1312
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,310
somebody said she was
kidnapping my daughter,

1313
01:12:03,310 --> 01:12:04,430
all that kind of thing

1314
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:12,040
that people think I've been
asked a lot of interviews lately

1315
01:12:12,990 --> 01:12:15,683
after the rise of Asian hate crime,

1316
01:12:16,740 --> 01:12:21,520
but I wanted to say it's
been there for the whole time

1317
01:12:23,500 --> 01:12:28,500
since first Asian people
immigrated to America.

1318
01:12:28,930 --> 01:12:30,230
It has been there.

1319
01:12:30,230 --> 01:12:35,030
And then we are living
with that discrimination

1320
01:12:36,568 --> 01:12:38,803
in our daily lives.

1321
01:12:41,220 --> 01:12:45,310
They are little larger than life sized.

1322
01:12:45,310 --> 01:12:47,293
So they are all sitting down.

1323
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:51,770
Most of my (indistinct) Asian
girls and scientists series

1324
01:12:52,660 --> 01:12:53,860
womans are sitting down.

1325
01:12:53,860 --> 01:12:56,573
So they are standing up,
they are larger than life.

1326
01:12:59,460 --> 01:13:04,460
I also used the survivors
of domestic violence

1327
01:13:05,770 --> 01:13:08,870
and sexual abuse for my models.

1328
01:13:08,870 --> 01:13:11,352
They are called the (indistinct)

1329
01:13:11,352 --> 01:13:13,820
I had a lot of UVM students

1330
01:13:13,820 --> 01:13:16,373
who wanted to be my models as well.

1331
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:21,480
I was so happy to see yesterday,

1332
01:13:21,480 --> 01:13:24,510
all these UVM students gathered together

1333
01:13:24,510 --> 01:13:28,750
and doing a protest about
speaking up about unfairness,

1334
01:13:28,750 --> 01:13:31,100
about how the school is dealing

1335
01:13:31,100 --> 01:13:36,100
with the student sex assault
cases and sexual abuse cases.

1336
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:41,900
It is not something that we
should really hide under the rug

1337
01:13:41,900 --> 01:13:43,295
and not talk about it.

1338
01:13:43,295 --> 01:13:46,733
It's something we need
to really bring it up.

1339
01:13:47,630 --> 01:13:50,780
The reason I am using
local woman as a model

1340
01:13:50,780 --> 01:13:55,780
is because I want to tell
everybody that these are us.

1341
01:13:56,020 --> 01:14:00,280
These are our sisters, our
mother, these are our daughters.

1342
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:04,700
These are not the people who
you will only see in the movies

1343
01:14:04,700 --> 01:14:09,263
and a book that you read
about, they are among us.

1344
01:14:12,970 --> 01:14:17,037
And they, I technology

1345
01:14:18,480 --> 01:14:22,160
and their power really inspired me

1346
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:25,620
every time they come and
volunteer to be my scientist,

1347
01:14:25,620 --> 01:14:29,170
they share their stories
and they share their face

1348
01:14:30,770 --> 01:14:34,530
and their name, their
actual name next to it

1349
01:14:34,530 --> 01:14:37,033
saying, this is me, I've been raped.

1350
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:41,690
You can please share my story with others.

1351
01:14:41,690 --> 01:14:45,350
That requires enormous courage

1352
01:14:45,350 --> 01:14:48,510
because I understand I've been there.

1353
01:14:48,510 --> 01:14:51,970
I have been in that
silence for very long time.

1354
01:14:51,970 --> 01:14:55,563
Sometimes it is just easier that way.

1355
01:14:56,900 --> 01:15:00,860
And in order to talk about
it, it needs enormous courage.

1356
01:15:00,860 --> 01:15:05,860
And one of the professor,
psychology professor in Korea

1357
01:15:06,090 --> 01:15:07,600
named Kyungil Kim.

1358
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:12,373
He said, if you are in this situation

1359
01:15:13,450 --> 01:15:15,183
that you are stressed about,

1360
01:15:17,480 --> 01:15:22,400
if you want to run away,
run away as fast as you can.

1361
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:27,250
He says, run away using all your body

1362
01:15:27,250 --> 01:15:29,100
because your brain will understand

1363
01:15:29,100 --> 01:15:31,030
that you wanted get out of this situation.

1364
01:15:31,030 --> 01:15:34,650
The more you try, the more peaceful,

1365
01:15:34,650 --> 01:15:37,320
the faster you will be peaceful.

1366
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:38,840
That's what I wanted to say.

1367
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:42,540
Like, if you are stressed about an issue,

1368
01:15:42,540 --> 01:15:46,000
if you want to talk about rape cases,

1369
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:50,650
if you want to talk about
injustice do whatever you might,

1370
01:15:50,650 --> 01:15:52,480
you can do with your body,

1371
01:15:52,480 --> 01:15:56,910
like I was crawling on
the floor for 300 hours

1372
01:15:56,910 --> 01:16:01,910
to fight with a perpetrator,
make art, write something,

1373
01:16:01,940 --> 01:16:03,973
speak up, join the protest,

1374
01:16:06,150 --> 01:16:09,940
because you will eventually
will give us a quick result

1375
01:16:09,940 --> 01:16:14,313
I believe, but he will
also keep us peacefulness

1376
01:16:14,313 --> 01:16:15,293
in our mind.

1377
01:16:17,950 --> 01:16:20,660
And that was my last two slides,

1378
01:16:20,660 --> 01:16:23,323
I will send back to Andrea, thank you.

1379
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,913
How do I, let me see.

1380
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:31,713
- Oh wow.

1381
01:16:33,194 --> 01:16:36,970
As I'm gonna summarize some
of the comments in the chat,

1382
01:16:36,970 --> 01:16:40,470
so powerful and brave and brilliant,

1383
01:16:40,470 --> 01:16:41,810
and I know we went a little over,

1384
01:16:41,810 --> 01:16:45,600
but I think we all could
have listened to you all day.

1385
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:49,240
I also want to acknowledge that
hearing's traumatic stories

1386
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:52,690
of trauma, we can feel that
in our bodies and, you know,

1387
01:16:52,690 --> 01:16:55,270
I welcome you if you need
to take a moment to stand,

1388
01:16:55,270 --> 01:16:58,020
stretch, breathe, to feel that,

1389
01:16:58,020 --> 01:16:59,170
check in with yourself.

1390
01:17:00,230 --> 01:17:01,610
It is 8:20.

1391
01:17:01,610 --> 01:17:04,260
We'd love folks to stay and chat

1392
01:17:04,260 --> 01:17:05,850
and ask their questions for a bit.

1393
01:17:05,850 --> 01:17:08,690
But we know you have some
folks may need to leave,

1394
01:17:08,690 --> 01:17:10,080
feel free,

1395
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,060
but since it is 8:20 AM

1396
01:17:12,060 --> 01:17:15,240
going to open it up to
questions from everyone,

1397
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:16,820
including the panelists for each other,

1398
01:17:16,820 --> 01:17:18,270
but including our audience.

1399
01:17:18,270 --> 01:17:20,360
And once again, you can
put a question in the chat

1400
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:22,180
and I'll read it for you,

1401
01:17:22,180 --> 01:17:25,190
or you can raise your hand
or we're a small group,

1402
01:17:25,190 --> 01:17:28,140
so I think you could probably
just unmute yourself and ask.

1403
01:17:43,710 --> 01:17:45,693
Yes, we have Jonathan.

1404
01:17:53,870 --> 01:17:56,060
- Let's see, can you hear me?

1405
01:17:56,060 --> 01:17:56,930
- Yes.

1406
01:17:56,930 --> 01:17:58,790
- Okay, awesome.

1407
01:17:58,790 --> 01:18:01,350
First I wanted to say hi to Misoo and Jen,

1408
01:18:01,350 --> 01:18:04,801
because I know them (laughs)

1409
01:18:04,801 --> 01:18:07,280
and I was very glad that I
was able to be a part tonight.

1410
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:11,003
And thank you for everyone sharing.

1411
01:18:11,958 --> 01:18:14,503
I'm gonna forget names, Nancy and Robin.

1412
01:18:14,503 --> 01:18:17,370
I had an idea of what question

1413
01:18:17,370 --> 01:18:18,520
I wanted to ask ahead of time

1414
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:21,120
cause I teach a writing
class that talks about,

1415
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:25,080
investigates, free speech in the arts.

1416
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:28,980
And as I was listening to everyone's talk,

1417
01:18:30,540 --> 01:18:33,140
I was sort of finding a connection

1418
01:18:33,980 --> 01:18:35,880
sort of between the mind and the body.

1419
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:40,110
Cause when I think of free speech

1420
01:18:40,110 --> 01:18:42,370
and dilemmas of free speech,

1421
01:18:42,370 --> 01:18:43,610
that it usually sort of resides

1422
01:18:43,610 --> 01:18:46,220
at where the physical is, right?

1423
01:18:46,220 --> 01:18:49,250
When the speech translate
into physical harm, right?

1424
01:18:49,250 --> 01:18:52,230
Which in some cases like
with Charlottesville

1425
01:18:52,230 --> 01:18:55,510
or with hate crime is
really tangible, right?

1426
01:18:55,510 --> 01:18:58,223
You can see the physical-ness of that.

1427
01:18:58,223 --> 01:19:02,210
And I was, the more I was
thinking of each of your talks

1428
01:19:02,210 --> 01:19:04,860
that there isn't this clear line

1429
01:19:04,860 --> 01:19:07,400
between the physical and the mental

1430
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:10,240
that the psychological and the mind

1431
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:11,640
whether you're religious or not right

1432
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:15,660
there's this blurry area
between, and I guess,

1433
01:19:15,660 --> 01:19:19,730
so my question then is if you
were to think about the limits

1434
01:19:19,730 --> 01:19:21,343
of where free speech should be,

1435
01:19:24,010 --> 01:19:26,730
would you place it at purely physical

1436
01:19:27,570 --> 01:19:29,500
waiting for that physical thing to happen

1437
01:19:29,500 --> 01:19:32,750
where someone is assaulted
or someone is raped

1438
01:19:32,750 --> 01:19:33,893
or someone is killed,

1439
01:19:34,870 --> 01:19:36,670
or does it have to maybe be pulled back?

1440
01:19:36,670 --> 01:19:39,800
And we have to look at
how is this actually,

1441
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:43,093
how is free speech effecting
us psychologically, mentally?

1442
01:19:44,460 --> 01:19:46,380
I don't know if that came across as well

1443
01:19:46,380 --> 01:19:49,297
as I had it in my head,
but I'll leave it there.

1444
01:19:49,297 --> 01:19:51,870
And just whoever wants
to take that, I'll just,

1445
01:19:51,870 --> 01:19:52,703
I'll leave it there.

1446
01:19:52,703 --> 01:19:55,103
I'll unmute myself and
take my video away, so.

1447
01:19:58,867 --> 01:20:03,470
- I can maybe address a little bit of that

1448
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,280
just from a spiritual standpoint,

1449
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:12,280
when you are looking
at the sort of the laws

1450
01:20:12,605 --> 01:20:16,360
that in Judaism govern speech,

1451
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:20,040
we're really not supposed
to speak ill of one another,

1452
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:22,850
except for constructive purpose.

1453
01:20:22,850 --> 01:20:27,780
So, you know, that intuitively
makes a lot of sense.

1454
01:20:27,780 --> 01:20:32,780
If the speech isn't
constructive and going to help

1455
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:36,146
uplift a person,

1456
01:20:36,146 --> 01:20:38,940
then we probably shouldn't be saying it.

1457
01:20:38,940 --> 01:20:40,773
And it's just really,

1458
01:20:42,833 --> 01:20:46,050
I guess we all have to
sort of self monitor that,

1459
01:20:47,440 --> 01:20:51,110
I don't know that we can
impose a blanket rule

1460
01:20:51,110 --> 01:20:52,500
over everything.

1461
01:20:52,500 --> 01:20:56,610
We can only sort of moderate
ourselves and how we speak.

1462
01:20:56,610 --> 01:20:59,673
I had this, when I was doing this,

1463
01:21:00,990 --> 01:21:04,690
getting towards the end
of the doing the seventh,

1464
01:21:04,690 --> 01:21:07,490
the end of the first seven pieces,

1465
01:21:07,490 --> 01:21:11,110
I had this epiphany, it hit
me like a ton of bricks.

1466
01:21:11,110 --> 01:21:14,700
And really it was that our speech,

1467
01:21:14,700 --> 01:21:18,620
how we talk about and to one another

1468
01:21:18,620 --> 01:21:20,090
are the underpinnings of everything

1469
01:21:20,090 --> 01:21:22,280
that's wrong in the universe.

1470
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:25,070
If we were just more careful

1471
01:21:25,070 --> 01:21:29,340
about how we spoke to
and about each other,

1472
01:21:29,340 --> 01:21:34,340
I think that would go
a long way to healing

1473
01:21:34,740 --> 01:21:39,740
a lot of the hatred and
anger that's out there.

1474
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:41,270
That is just, again,

1475
01:21:41,270 --> 01:21:45,030
coming from just a purely spiritual place

1476
01:21:45,030 --> 01:21:47,770
where someone has determined

1477
01:21:47,770 --> 01:21:51,660
some rules about speech
and that in Judaism,

1478
01:21:51,660 --> 01:21:56,240
we aren't supposed to have
any sort of negative speech

1479
01:21:58,490 --> 01:22:01,040
except for constructive purpose,

1480
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:04,560
even by example of something as innocent

1481
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,460
as two people meeting in the lunch room,

1482
01:22:07,460 --> 01:22:09,010
talking about a third person

1483
01:22:09,010 --> 01:22:12,160
and commiserating about the
fact that the third person

1484
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:13,663
didn't get the promotion.

1485
01:22:14,550 --> 01:22:19,550
That changes how you might
look at that third person

1486
01:22:19,970 --> 01:22:22,000
ever so slightly

1487
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:25,340
tiny, tiny, why didn't
she get that promotion?

1488
01:22:25,340 --> 01:22:29,890
You know, is she not good
enough changes or perception

1489
01:22:29,890 --> 01:22:33,040
ever, ever, ever so slightly
without even realizing it?

1490
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:35,450
Now you've got something
against this person

1491
01:22:36,370 --> 01:22:38,860
who's perfectly nice, it
just didn't get a job,

1492
01:22:38,860 --> 01:22:43,380
but she's tainted by some
words, no fault of her own.

1493
01:22:43,380 --> 01:22:45,120
So it's, I think we should maybe

1494
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:46,870
take a little bit of that to heart.

1495
01:22:47,860 --> 01:22:51,910
- Yeah, Robin here has
20 pieces in that series,

1496
01:22:51,910 --> 01:22:55,650
20 pieces by the time she
got done with investigating

1497
01:22:55,650 --> 01:22:57,669
everything that Judaism
had to teach about...

1498
01:22:57,669 --> 01:22:59,420
Teach us about hate speech.

1499
01:22:59,420 --> 01:23:03,050
And I learned a lot from her 20 pieces,

1500
01:23:03,050 --> 01:23:07,380
and it's easy a distinction
to make physical harm

1501
01:23:07,380 --> 01:23:09,550
is just not the place to stop.

1502
01:23:09,550 --> 01:23:11,800
You really, the Jewish there,

1503
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:13,480
her three murders one says

1504
01:23:13,480 --> 01:23:16,550
you murdered the souls
of all three people,

1505
01:23:16,550 --> 01:23:18,440
the person talking, the person spoken to,

1506
01:23:18,440 --> 01:23:20,384
and this third person spoken about,

1507
01:23:20,384 --> 01:23:23,590
and actually the original,

1508
01:23:23,590 --> 01:23:25,060
in the original 10 commandments.

1509
01:23:25,060 --> 01:23:28,460
it's not thou shalt not kill
it's though shalt not murder,

1510
01:23:28,460 --> 01:23:29,293
murder,

1511
01:23:29,293 --> 01:23:31,240
and murdering a person's soul

1512
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:35,203
is considered at least as bad
as murdering a person's body.

1513
01:23:36,380 --> 01:23:38,470
That also relates of course to what Misoo

1514
01:23:38,470 --> 01:23:40,870
was brave enough to put in her art

1515
01:23:40,870 --> 01:23:44,490
about killing the soul of the person.

1516
01:23:44,490 --> 01:23:47,940
It's not the physical
damage is not the end of it,

1517
01:23:47,940 --> 01:23:48,893
it's the soul.

1518
01:23:49,740 --> 01:23:51,380
And that is what's crucial,

1519
01:23:51,380 --> 01:23:54,980
and what I was getting at in my paintings

1520
01:23:54,980 --> 01:23:57,460
is that we have to do a
lot of self-examination

1521
01:23:57,460 --> 01:24:00,530
in order to be able to
address these issues,

1522
01:24:00,530 --> 01:24:03,740
figure out where we stand
and what we understand

1523
01:24:03,740 --> 01:24:05,350
and how we can teach our children

1524
01:24:05,350 --> 01:24:08,810
to not go repeating our mistakes.

1525
01:24:08,810 --> 01:24:11,420
It is something that every
person in every generation,

1526
01:24:11,420 --> 01:24:14,218
in every spot you're in, fights,

1527
01:24:14,218 --> 01:24:15,880
if they have goodwill.

1528
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,323
- So by way of just a very quick anecdote,

1529
01:24:19,730 --> 01:24:22,680
one of the other things that
you're not supposed to do

1530
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:24,880
when people are speaking Lashon Hara

1531
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:26,920
is to stand there and listen to it.

1532
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:30,170
And I got a phone call one
Sunday morning from a girlfriend

1533
01:24:30,170 --> 01:24:32,590
who said, you're never
gonna believe what happened.

1534
01:24:32,590 --> 01:24:34,670
And I'm like, okay, what happened?

1535
01:24:34,670 --> 01:24:37,780
She says, I was at a cocktail
party on Saturday night

1536
01:24:37,780 --> 01:24:40,630
and I had just come in
and I saw a group of women

1537
01:24:40,630 --> 01:24:43,480
whom I knew, and I got my drink,

1538
01:24:43,480 --> 01:24:45,300
and I went to this little group of women.

1539
01:24:45,300 --> 01:24:47,490
And the woman in the center was saying

1540
01:24:47,490 --> 01:24:51,370
some disparaging stuff about
one of these other women

1541
01:24:51,370 --> 01:24:53,240
that were in the room, but
not a part of the group.

1542
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:54,750
She said, you know what I did?

1543
01:24:54,750 --> 01:24:56,070
I said, no, what did you do?

1544
01:24:56,070 --> 01:24:58,590
She said, I turned around and I left.

1545
01:24:58,590 --> 01:25:00,280
And she said, do you know what happened?

1546
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:01,660
I said, no, what happened?

1547
01:25:01,660 --> 01:25:03,288
She said this morning, I got a phone call

1548
01:25:03,288 --> 01:25:05,650
from the woman who was gossiping

1549
01:25:05,650 --> 01:25:08,100
and saying unkind things about the woman

1550
01:25:08,100 --> 01:25:11,990
in the cocktail party apologizing to me.

1551
01:25:11,990 --> 01:25:15,010
If I had offended her with my speech,

1552
01:25:15,010 --> 01:25:17,510
I said, oh, (clapping) good for you.

1553
01:25:17,510 --> 01:25:19,220
So there are things that we can do

1554
01:25:19,220 --> 01:25:24,220
that are silent and
proactive and not tolerated

1555
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:29,400
without even having to utter
words to people to fight back.

1556
01:25:31,020 --> 01:25:33,230
And I love that when she
called and she told me that

1557
01:25:33,230 --> 01:25:34,133
I was like, yes.

1558
01:25:35,270 --> 01:25:36,470
- Thank you for bringing this up.

1559
01:25:36,470 --> 01:25:37,303
- Yes.

1560
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:43,220
- Nancy and Robin, can I say something?

1561
01:25:43,220 --> 01:25:44,510
- Sure.
- Yes.

1562
01:25:44,510 --> 01:25:49,067
- I think it's really
inspiring what you were saying

1563
01:25:49,067 --> 01:25:52,290
about not saying bad thing about others.

1564
01:25:52,290 --> 01:25:55,610
I think it is all
everybody knows about it.

1565
01:25:55,610 --> 01:25:57,160
Like what we should do

1566
01:25:57,160 --> 01:26:00,200
that we've been taught not to do that,

1567
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:03,550
but sometimes it's very difficult.

1568
01:26:03,550 --> 01:26:06,663
I still gossip with my friends.

1569
01:26:08,130 --> 01:26:11,010
Like when I'm in the restaurant
with my Korean friends

1570
01:26:11,010 --> 01:26:11,843
and we are like,

1571
01:26:11,843 --> 01:26:15,143
we can gossip loudly about
the people next to us

1572
01:26:15,143 --> 01:26:17,593
because they would not understand us.

1573
01:26:17,593 --> 01:26:19,640
(laughing)

1574
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:24,640
I almost think like it's
just human nature to gossip.

1575
01:26:24,900 --> 01:26:28,040
And then I remember that the book Sapiens,

1576
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:32,500
I don't know if you guys read
about it, it's by the author,

1577
01:26:32,500 --> 01:26:33,853
Yuval Harari.

1578
01:26:35,100 --> 01:26:38,940
He mentioned that one of the things

1579
01:26:38,940 --> 01:26:41,070
that human is different than animal

1580
01:26:41,070 --> 01:26:46,000
is we gossip and that helped the human

1581
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:49,050
build the civilization.

1582
01:26:49,050 --> 01:26:54,050
That was he's saying, which
when I was reading them,

1583
01:26:56,840 --> 01:27:00,410
I'm like, oh, this is very interesting.

1584
01:27:00,410 --> 01:27:03,160
That he said like, by gossiping,

1585
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:06,150
by telling each other who is dangerous,

1586
01:27:06,150 --> 01:27:08,050
who you should not talk to

1587
01:27:08,050 --> 01:27:11,010
that make us like our group or your group,

1588
01:27:11,010 --> 01:27:14,160
and you also like separate
our group as well.

1589
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:18,110
And then what can we just refreshing,

1590
01:27:18,110 --> 01:27:19,870
like after reading that book,

1591
01:27:19,870 --> 01:27:22,060
hearing from you and Robin

1592
01:27:22,060 --> 01:27:25,323
about a totally different
point of view of a gossiping,

1593
01:27:26,188 --> 01:27:30,010
I wonder what you are
thinking about that logic,

1594
01:27:31,106 --> 01:27:34,523
that gossip is important in human nature.

1595
01:27:35,990 --> 01:27:38,320
- Yeah, I'm also a biologist

1596
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:42,100
and I especially liked
studying things like this

1597
01:27:42,100 --> 01:27:43,700
when I was a lot younger.

1598
01:27:43,700 --> 01:27:48,470
And I do think that you
have one can recognize

1599
01:27:48,470 --> 01:27:51,480
the importance of this sort
of thing in human nature.

1600
01:27:51,480 --> 01:27:53,130
And in fact, there are many other things

1601
01:27:53,130 --> 01:27:55,040
that are important in human nature.

1602
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:58,080
That can be issues when
you want to develop

1603
01:27:58,080 --> 01:27:59,490
into a better human being.

1604
01:27:59,490 --> 01:28:01,150
When you have a world that's different

1605
01:28:01,150 --> 01:28:04,620
from a tribal situation where
we were hunter gatherers,

1606
01:28:04,620 --> 01:28:07,680
and we had to be aware
of everybody around us.

1607
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:12,680
Now it crops up as an
important defect because

1608
01:28:13,610 --> 01:28:15,690
just because it was
important in the beginning,

1609
01:28:15,690 --> 01:28:18,660
doesn't mean it's important
now for us to continue that.

1610
01:28:18,660 --> 01:28:21,160
I think we have to recognize
where to draw the line,

1611
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:24,860
and that's one of the reasons
why I loved Robin's 20 pieces,

1612
01:28:24,860 --> 01:28:28,100
because it helped me learn
where the line should be drawn.

1613
01:28:28,100 --> 01:28:29,480
The rabbis had thought about this

1614
01:28:29,480 --> 01:28:33,900
for centuries and centuries
and written about it.

1615
01:28:33,900 --> 01:28:36,500
And to have that carefully
considered thought

1616
01:28:36,500 --> 01:28:38,313
to me is an elevation.

1617
01:28:39,150 --> 01:28:43,380
I mean, I value my animal instincts still,

1618
01:28:43,380 --> 01:28:47,193
but there's a place to
not have the same ones.

1619
01:28:50,924 --> 01:28:53,730
- I was thinking of the same thing Misoo

1620
01:28:53,730 --> 01:28:55,280
and it sounds glad you asked that.

1621
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:57,030
And I appreciate Nancy's answer.

1622
01:28:57,030 --> 01:28:59,280
We have a question from
Mave in the audience.

1623
01:29:00,810 --> 01:29:01,740
- Thanks so much.

1624
01:29:01,740 --> 01:29:04,890
So I'm Mave Eveha, I'm
a linguist actually.

1625
01:29:04,890 --> 01:29:08,240
So all this talk about language
is just really fascinating.

1626
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:11,460
And I've been working on
some of the work that I do

1627
01:29:11,460 --> 01:29:14,950
is a critical analysis of
like newspaper reporting

1628
01:29:14,950 --> 01:29:17,590
of particular events.

1629
01:29:17,590 --> 01:29:20,350
I'm working right now on
the Atlanta spot shootings.

1630
01:29:20,350 --> 01:29:22,400
And the way that sort of, that, you know,

1631
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:25,540
racialized misogyny was
reported on in the press

1632
01:29:25,540 --> 01:29:27,890
and how that compares
to some other instances.

1633
01:29:27,890 --> 01:29:32,067
But I'm interested in
particular if I wrote it down

1634
01:29:32,067 --> 01:29:34,850
and I can't remember even who said it,

1635
01:29:34,850 --> 01:29:36,810
and I'm sorry, but someone said,

1636
01:29:36,810 --> 01:29:40,870
I think, well, the slippage
between cause and consequence

1637
01:29:40,870 --> 01:29:42,730
begins with language.

1638
01:29:42,730 --> 01:29:44,760
And I just wondered if you could talk

1639
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:46,960
a little bit more about that,
it was really intriguing.

1640
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:50,090
And I just wanna say also that this felt

1641
01:29:50,090 --> 01:29:51,560
everybody's talks today

1642
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:54,090
just felt really powerful
and restorative to me,

1643
01:29:54,090 --> 01:29:57,720
and I really needed this today,
and I appreciate all of it.

1644
01:29:57,720 --> 01:29:59,000
Thank you so much.

1645
01:30:03,929 --> 01:30:04,885
- You're muted.

1646
01:30:04,885 --> 01:30:06,480
- You're good.

1647
01:30:06,480 --> 01:30:08,690
- Oh, we're good now, oh, wonderful.

1648
01:30:08,690 --> 01:30:11,810
I thought that Tabor was
here, maybe she had to log off

1649
01:30:11,810 --> 01:30:14,350
because she would have
been the perfect person

1650
01:30:15,265 --> 01:30:16,880
to talk about that.

1651
01:30:18,440 --> 01:30:20,890
I can read you what
she additionally wrote,

1652
01:30:20,890 --> 01:30:24,130
which I didn't get to
share because of time.

1653
01:30:24,130 --> 01:30:25,990
But she said the layers of know

1654
01:30:26,870 --> 01:30:31,870
have been struck with a hammer
of a typewriter circa 1940,

1655
01:30:31,970 --> 01:30:34,710
which elicits an energy of action,

1656
01:30:34,710 --> 01:30:38,053
not available in the
silent type of a computer.

1657
01:30:39,232 --> 01:30:42,840
There then digitally enlarged

1658
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:45,420
and his red lines get
mingled with black type

1659
01:30:45,420 --> 01:30:48,950
of course of refusal seeks an alertness

1660
01:30:48,950 --> 01:30:51,640
in a real consequential time.

1661
01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:56,640
And I don't know what I can add to that.

1662
01:30:59,190 --> 01:31:01,654
I hope it went a little bit of a way

1663
01:31:01,654 --> 01:31:04,853
to answer your question.

1664
01:31:05,850 --> 01:31:08,060
- Maybe someone else has an observation.

1665
01:31:08,060 --> 01:31:12,383
- Maybe someone else has an
observation and they can share.

1666
01:31:15,290 --> 01:31:18,703
- No, Jen, Lisa, (indistinct)

1667
01:31:20,900 --> 01:31:21,733
- I'm sorry.

1668
01:31:21,733 --> 01:31:24,197
I didn't understand the question.

1669
01:31:26,983 --> 01:31:30,670
- I think there was this idea of language

1670
01:31:30,670 --> 01:31:35,670
being this maybe catalyst
and I think sort of comparing

1671
01:31:35,830 --> 01:31:38,250
both comments either
positively or negatively

1672
01:31:38,250 --> 01:31:42,530
that language can conspicuous towards hate

1673
01:31:42,530 --> 01:31:45,710
or can be that know that that stops hate

1674
01:31:45,710 --> 01:31:47,437
if it stops it soon enough.

1675
01:31:51,630 --> 01:31:53,377
Oh, Jen's unmuting.

1676
01:31:53,377 --> 01:31:54,783
(chuckles)

1677
01:31:54,783 --> 01:31:56,163
It's very slow.

1678
01:32:02,870 --> 01:32:03,880
- Does that work?

1679
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:04,713
- Yeah.

1680
01:32:04,713 --> 01:32:07,280
- Sorry, the chat comes
up right over the buttons.

1681
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:09,930
So I had to wait for the chat to go away.

1682
01:32:09,930 --> 01:32:11,530
I guess I just wanted to address it maybe

1683
01:32:11,530 --> 01:32:13,020
for more of a preventative,

1684
01:32:13,020 --> 01:32:15,250
because it's something I
think about as a teacher.

1685
01:32:15,250 --> 01:32:18,750
And I think about, you know,
especially with young folks,

1686
01:32:18,750 --> 01:32:21,620
like, and I'm also learning,

1687
01:32:21,620 --> 01:32:25,760
I think we're all learning
ways of applying language

1688
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:29,710
to identities and to the
world that are affirmative,

1689
01:32:29,710 --> 01:32:32,360
that are respectful, that are inclusive.

1690
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:37,160
And so I really think
about ways of calling in

1691
01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:39,570
those different types of languages

1692
01:32:39,570 --> 01:32:41,730
when I'm doing workshops,
when I'm teaching classes

1693
01:32:41,730 --> 01:32:43,650
and really, and also explaining

1694
01:32:43,650 --> 01:32:45,370
why those things are important,

1695
01:32:45,370 --> 01:32:47,060
why the shift in language is important,

1696
01:32:47,060 --> 01:32:48,830
especially if there's somebody in the room

1697
01:32:48,830 --> 01:32:50,760
who has that identity,

1698
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:52,790
whether or not we realize
that that like basically

1699
01:32:52,790 --> 01:32:54,800
we're trying to do harm prevention.

1700
01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:56,010
And so all these things, right.

1701
01:32:56,010 --> 01:32:56,843
And again,

1702
01:32:56,843 --> 01:32:59,140
it's so much about is
understanding and connecting.

1703
01:33:00,429 --> 01:33:03,180
I really do believe that
the more we can do that,

1704
01:33:03,180 --> 01:33:06,060
like we are less able to hurt others

1705
01:33:06,060 --> 01:33:08,280
when we can respect other people.

1706
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:10,543
So as far as that, that slippage,

1707
01:33:11,490 --> 01:33:12,820
I do think that there's a preventative

1708
01:33:12,820 --> 01:33:15,880
in the way that we think about
language and ask questions

1709
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:17,760
and try to have that open dialogue

1710
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:21,263
around how we understand our
language impacting others.

1711
01:33:28,900 --> 01:33:32,923
- I often think about obviously PC,

1712
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:36,100
whatever gets demonized so much,

1713
01:33:36,100 --> 01:33:38,420
but I think it's really,
I think it's exactly,

1714
01:33:38,420 --> 01:33:41,010
it's just another way of
framing what you're saying, Jen,

1715
01:33:41,010 --> 01:33:44,787
which is how we learn
to evolve our language,

1716
01:33:44,787 --> 01:33:46,343
to reduce harm,

1717
01:33:48,060 --> 01:33:51,163
including understanding what
is and is not acceptable.

1718
01:33:52,530 --> 01:33:54,423
- Am I unmuted?

1719
01:33:54,423 --> 01:33:55,256
- Yes.

1720
01:33:55,256 --> 01:33:56,170
- Okay, I think, yeah,

1721
01:33:56,170 --> 01:33:57,930
and I think it's funny, you
said the PC thing, right.

1722
01:33:57,930 --> 01:33:59,540
That's got such a bad rap.

1723
01:33:59,540 --> 01:34:03,680
And I think that for me, when
I think about the idea of PC,

1724
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:07,410
I think it's more about like
how we do it also, right,

1725
01:34:07,410 --> 01:34:10,270
instead of like policing
people and slapping people

1726
01:34:10,270 --> 01:34:14,470
on the wrist is really just
about affirming identities

1727
01:34:14,470 --> 01:34:16,570
and using it from that perspective.

1728
01:34:16,570 --> 01:34:19,190
And I think that that I don't like that

1729
01:34:19,190 --> 01:34:21,220
I understand where the
whole PC thing comes from,

1730
01:34:21,220 --> 01:34:22,053
even though I don't like it.

1731
01:34:22,053 --> 01:34:24,622
So I think that there's more to it,

1732
01:34:24,622 --> 01:34:27,090
but I think that that
really can turn people off

1733
01:34:27,090 --> 01:34:28,913
and break down this conversation.

1734
01:34:29,770 --> 01:34:32,967
- Right, I'm like, oh, go ahead.

1735
01:34:34,270 --> 01:34:37,793
- I started doing pretend
play with my daughter.

1736
01:34:38,940 --> 01:34:42,690
You know, a lot of people
don't experience that.

1737
01:34:42,690 --> 01:34:44,620
I been talking with my daughter,

1738
01:34:44,620 --> 01:34:49,540
like teach her here
about Asian hate speeches

1739
01:34:49,540 --> 01:34:51,290
or discrimination at school.

1740
01:34:51,290 --> 01:34:53,350
And she's like, no, I happen,

1741
01:34:53,350 --> 01:34:57,683
and then, and I'm like, well,
you will be in the situation,

1742
01:34:58,730 --> 01:35:01,170
and then we need to prepare for that.

1743
01:35:01,170 --> 01:35:05,110
So I wrote like a little goals

1744
01:35:05,110 --> 01:35:07,140
and then while we were doing like,

1745
01:35:07,140 --> 01:35:11,070
pretend evenly, like raccoon
family, bunny family,

1746
01:35:11,070 --> 01:35:15,140
and then squirrel family does
not like raccoons family.

1747
01:35:15,140 --> 01:35:17,390
And then we were doing like hate speech

1748
01:35:17,390 --> 01:35:21,850
and then like not, just
practice not to be a bystander

1749
01:35:21,850 --> 01:35:24,720
and then get into that.

1750
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:27,530
I think that like practicing
that really helped us

1751
01:35:27,530 --> 01:35:30,200
because when we are actually

1752
01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:32,750
in that hate speech environment sometimes,

1753
01:35:32,750 --> 01:35:35,200
it's really hard to just jump in

1754
01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:37,940
if you are not prepared for it.

1755
01:35:37,940 --> 01:35:41,973
So I started doing that, I
think it's really helping.

1756
01:35:43,130 --> 01:35:47,080
- That's amazing and a
great idea for all parents

1757
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:51,200
or people who interact
with children or anyone.

1758
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:53,073
Erica, you wanted to jump in here.

1759
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:56,760
- Thank you.

1760
01:35:56,760 --> 01:36:01,690
These are really wonderful
and powerful as everyone said.

1761
01:36:01,690 --> 01:36:03,900
And to me that the thing thought

1762
01:36:03,900 --> 01:36:05,900
that just kind of popped into my head

1763
01:36:05,900 --> 01:36:10,900
was that the other side
of speech is listening.

1764
01:36:11,950 --> 01:36:16,170
And like I've been teaching in my course

1765
01:36:16,170 --> 01:36:17,930
of comparative religions

1766
01:36:17,930 --> 01:36:22,200
and we do a unit on native
American culture and religion.

1767
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:27,190
And in the writing that I've read

1768
01:36:27,190 --> 01:36:29,350
by native American teachers,

1769
01:36:29,350 --> 01:36:32,170
they're much more concerned
with listening than speaking,

1770
01:36:32,170 --> 01:36:33,070
in fact.

1771
01:36:33,070 --> 01:36:37,630
So there's, and I think that

1772
01:36:38,750 --> 01:36:42,620
it occurs to me as a person
who, you know, is part,

1773
01:36:42,620 --> 01:36:47,239
identify as part of the
dominant culture in so many ways

1774
01:36:47,239 --> 01:36:52,120
that it's even more important
to let others speak.

1775
01:36:52,120 --> 01:36:56,290
And so in this question of free speech

1776
01:36:56,290 --> 01:36:59,370
and who's allowed to
decide who gets to speak

1777
01:36:59,370 --> 01:37:03,560
and that I feel like it's important

1778
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:08,560
to have that kind of self
awareness or self control

1779
01:37:10,790 --> 01:37:15,610
like Robin was talking
about in some situations,

1780
01:37:15,610 --> 01:37:18,760
but then have this kind
of boldness to speak

1781
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:23,760
like Misoo was saying just
now as well in that situation.

1782
01:37:24,210 --> 01:37:29,210
And it's so contextual to
decide, you know, where am I now?

1783
01:37:33,430 --> 01:37:35,620
Who am I speaking to?

1784
01:37:35,620 --> 01:37:37,333
Who am I speaking over?

1785
01:37:38,490 --> 01:37:41,440
And what is my speech going to accomplish?

1786
01:37:41,440 --> 01:37:45,350
But I also feel like your
art is speech as well.

1787
01:37:45,350 --> 01:37:49,067
And I am extremely grateful for all of it.

1788
01:37:49,067 --> 01:37:52,370
I wish I had known about that wooden quilt

1789
01:37:52,370 --> 01:37:55,783
so I could have come and
participated, looked amazing.

1790
01:37:59,880 --> 01:38:00,800
- I'm looking for,

1791
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:03,160
it'll be up hopefully
permanently in the south end

1792
01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:06,480
at some point, and I'll post
it on public social media.

1793
01:38:06,480 --> 01:38:07,313
And that happens.

1794
01:38:07,313 --> 01:38:08,146
We'll definitely be up for the Art Hop

1795
01:38:08,146 --> 01:38:09,100
hopefully before then.

1796
01:38:16,783 --> 01:38:18,220
- Unless there are any other questions

1797
01:38:18,220 --> 01:38:19,380
I might call it there,

1798
01:38:19,380 --> 01:38:23,130
but what ending on a high note,

1799
01:38:23,130 --> 01:38:25,830
I feel like this is such an amazing event.

1800
01:38:25,830 --> 01:38:28,600
Every single presentation was amazing

1801
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:31,130
and our conversation was amazing.

1802
01:38:31,130 --> 01:38:35,690
And I just feel really blessed
to be here with all of you

1803
01:38:35,690 --> 01:38:38,070
to hear about your amazing work

1804
01:38:38,070 --> 01:38:40,500
and to engage in this
dialogue with all of you,

1805
01:38:40,500 --> 01:38:41,853
including our audience.

1806
01:38:42,770 --> 01:38:45,470
If there are any final
thoughts, I'll invite them now.

1807
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:52,770
- I just wanna say how a great plan

1808
01:38:52,770 --> 01:38:53,640
for pulling this together,

1809
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:56,400
how there's so many different
things happening here,

1810
01:38:56,400 --> 01:39:00,527
and the consequences of
hate speech is like the,

1811
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:02,500
it's so important, right?

1812
01:39:02,500 --> 01:39:04,580
And it's a thing we're able to talk about

1813
01:39:04,580 --> 01:39:06,530
and how many different ways
we're able to address it

1814
01:39:06,530 --> 01:39:09,180
through language and through art.

1815
01:39:09,180 --> 01:39:12,210
And for curating this, Erica,

1816
01:39:12,210 --> 01:39:13,660
I'm really grateful for that.

1817
01:39:15,340 --> 01:39:17,340
- Yeah, I just want to say once again

1818
01:39:17,340 --> 01:39:20,510
how wonderful this is too,

1819
01:39:20,510 --> 01:39:24,260
COVID has brought the fact
that we can do these meetings

1820
01:39:24,260 --> 01:39:27,490
and that I can meet all of
you from across the country,

1821
01:39:27,490 --> 01:39:30,170
Robin and I can know you and
which we otherwise wouldn't,

1822
01:39:30,170 --> 01:39:32,780
even though I have very
close personal ties

1823
01:39:32,780 --> 01:39:33,990
to Burlington, Vermont,

1824
01:39:33,990 --> 01:39:36,650
I never would have met
any of you any other way.

1825
01:39:36,650 --> 01:39:40,421
So thank you, and for I'm
going to be watching you now,

1826
01:39:40,421 --> 01:39:41,971
I'm going to have to be
picking up your work.

1827
01:39:41,971 --> 01:39:43,495
And following you.

1828
01:39:43,495 --> 01:39:44,534
- Great fans.

1829
01:39:44,534 --> 01:39:45,534
- Thank you.

1830
01:39:47,263 --> 01:39:49,300
- I guess I was gonna ask,

1831
01:39:49,300 --> 01:39:52,130
if you had mentioned there's part four,

1832
01:39:52,130 --> 01:39:53,610
are there ways artists should know

1833
01:39:53,610 --> 01:39:55,610
about ways to submit work?

1834
01:39:55,610 --> 01:39:59,933
- Oh, yes, the application
is on our website,

1835
01:40:00,860 --> 01:40:03,165
Vector Artists Initiative.

1836
01:40:03,165 --> 01:40:06,340
- Vector Artist Initiative.

1837
01:40:06,340 --> 01:40:09,690
Singular, artistinitiative.mcom.

1838
01:40:09,690 --> 01:40:13,690
- I believe Erika has
one has a mailing too.

1839
01:40:13,690 --> 01:40:15,120
- Yeah, we have a flyer.

1840
01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:18,580
- Yeah, but you can go
directly to our website

1841
01:40:18,580 --> 01:40:21,010
if you can't find that, you
probably can find Erica.

1842
01:40:21,010 --> 01:40:22,290
- Yeah, find Erica.

1843
01:40:22,290 --> 01:40:23,123
- Yeah.

1844
01:40:24,057 --> 01:40:24,993
- And the link is further up in the chat.

1845
01:40:24,993 --> 01:40:28,103
I'll try to repost it
at the bottom, right?

1846
01:40:29,900 --> 01:40:31,660
- Yeah, we'd love to hear from any of you.

1847
01:40:31,660 --> 01:40:33,270
- Any of you that would like to submit

1848
01:40:33,270 --> 01:40:35,030
it's open to everyone,

1849
01:40:35,030 --> 01:40:39,360
all professional artists
and it's free submission,

1850
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:42,070
there's no fees for submitting.

1851
01:40:42,070 --> 01:40:43,910
We want as many voices,

1852
01:40:43,910 --> 01:40:47,907
varied voices as we possibly
can in the conversation.

1853
01:40:47,907 --> 01:40:48,933
- The deadline?

1854
01:40:50,237 --> 01:40:52,513
- The deadline is June 1st.

1855
01:40:54,770 --> 01:40:58,310
So we give enough time for
people to create new work

1856
01:40:58,310 --> 01:41:00,360
or to go through the
work that already existed

1857
01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:02,210
and find some great stuff and submit.

1858
01:41:04,620 --> 01:41:06,310
- Okay, all righty.

1859
01:41:06,310 --> 01:41:08,942
- I would probably say one more thing,

1860
01:41:08,942 --> 01:41:11,310
which I should have said at the beginning,

1861
01:41:11,310 --> 01:41:16,310
but also to thank Eugene Culkin.

1862
01:41:16,910 --> 01:41:21,910
He generously donated money
to the Jewish studies program

1863
01:41:22,780 --> 01:41:24,380
that supported this program

1864
01:41:24,380 --> 01:41:26,350
and has supported other
programs in the past.

1865
01:41:26,350 --> 01:41:29,760
So he is our angel benefactor

1866
01:41:30,610 --> 01:41:32,250
and made a lot of this possible.

1867
01:41:32,250 --> 01:41:35,293
So I'm very grateful to him.

1868
01:41:39,270 --> 01:41:42,148
- All right, thank you everyone.

1869
01:41:42,148 --> 01:41:43,360
- Bye you guys.

1870
01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:45,510
- Great to meet you
all (mumbles) together.