WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.410 --> 00:00:05.720 More will be joining us. 2 00:00:05.720 --> 00:00:07.390 So welcome everyone 3 00:00:07.390 --> 00:00:10.550 to another event of the Faculty Development series. 4 00:00:10.550 --> 00:00:13.563 I'm Jim Vigoreaux, the vice provost for faculty affairs. 5 00:00:14.905 --> 00:00:16.680 And before I introduce our presenter today, 6 00:00:16.680 --> 00:00:19.270 let me take a minute to thank 7 00:00:19.270 --> 00:00:21.540 the Howard Hughes Medical Institute 8 00:00:21.540 --> 00:00:24.590 who are supporting this event today. 9 00:00:24.590 --> 00:00:28.520 So our presenter is Dr. Saundra Yancy McGuire, 10 00:00:28.520 --> 00:00:30.820 who is the Director Emerita of the Center 11 00:00:30.820 --> 00:00:32.500 for Academic Success 12 00:00:32.500 --> 00:00:34.550 and retired Assistant Vice Chancellor 13 00:00:34.550 --> 00:00:38.303 and Professor of Chemistry at Louisiana State University. 14 00:00:39.640 --> 00:00:42.530 She has delivered keynote addresses or presenter workshops 15 00:00:42.530 --> 00:00:43.950 on effective learning strategies 16 00:00:43.950 --> 00:00:48.950 at over 500 institutions and 47 states and 13 countries. 17 00:00:49.719 --> 00:00:51.923 And I believe we're adding another state today to that. 18 00:00:51.923 --> 00:00:54.277 Yes, you are now 48, thanks to UVM. 19 00:00:55.538 --> 00:00:56.371 And now 48. 20 00:00:57.560 --> 00:01:02.560 So prior to joining LSU, Dr. McGuire spent 11 years 21 00:01:03.520 --> 00:01:05.460 at Cornell where she received 22 00:01:05.460 --> 00:01:09.050 the coveted Clark Distinguished Teaching Award 23 00:01:09.050 --> 00:01:10.257 Her best selling books, 24 00:01:10.257 --> 00:01:12.110 "Teach Students How to Learn" 25 00:01:12.110 --> 00:01:14.140 and "Teach Yourself How to Learn" 26 00:01:14.140 --> 00:01:16.940 are widely acclaimed by faculty and students. 27 00:01:16.940 --> 00:01:17.987 The parent version, 28 00:01:17.987 --> 00:01:20.237 "The Parents' Guide to Studying and Learning" 29 00:01:21.824 --> 00:01:23.183 was released in January, 2022. 30 00:01:26.530 --> 00:01:28.960 McGuire's most recent accolades include 31 00:01:28.960 --> 00:01:32.570 being named a 2022 Louisiana Legend 32 00:01:32.570 --> 00:01:34.610 by Louisiana public broadcasting. 33 00:01:34.610 --> 00:01:36.453 I can't imagine what that entails, 34 00:01:37.324 --> 00:01:38.683 but sounds pretty impressive. 35 00:01:39.880 --> 00:01:41.680 Being listed in the 2020 edition 36 00:01:41.680 --> 00:01:43.950 of Marquis Who's Who in America, 37 00:01:43.950 --> 00:01:47.220 receiving the 2019 Commitment to Excellence 38 00:01:47.220 --> 00:01:50.300 in Academic Support Award from the Commission 39 00:01:50.300 --> 00:01:53.563 for Academic Support in Higher Education, 40 00:01:54.490 --> 00:01:56.903 and induction in 2017 into 41 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:02.630 the LSU College of Science Hall of Distinction. 42 00:02:03.640 --> 00:02:07.000 She's an elective fellow of the American Chemical Society, 43 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:09.860 the American Association for Advancement of Science, 44 00:02:09.860 --> 00:02:12.160 and the Council of Learning Assistance 45 00:02:12.160 --> 00:02:14.733 and Developmental Education Associations. 46 00:02:15.580 --> 00:02:18.020 She received the Presidential Award for Excellence 47 00:02:18.020 --> 00:02:22.390 in Science, Mathematics, and Engineering Mentoring 48 00:02:22.390 --> 00:02:26.670 in a white house oval ceremony in, I don't have the year, 49 00:02:28.160 --> 00:02:33.160 but I think I remember. Well since you remember. 50 00:02:33.860 --> 00:02:37.713 2006, somewhere there? That's exactly right, yes. 51 00:02:39.380 --> 00:02:40.693 How do you remember that? 52 00:02:42.228 --> 00:02:43.190 I don't know, I keep track of them because 53 00:02:43.190 --> 00:02:46.710 I do have a few colleagues who have been given them. 54 00:02:46.710 --> 00:02:49.350 I see. So I'm just in the habit 55 00:02:49.350 --> 00:02:52.200 to track 'em. I see, okay, 56 00:02:52.200 --> 00:02:53.143 that's amazing. 57 00:02:54.570 --> 00:02:55.620 Well, you're amazing too, 58 00:02:55.620 --> 00:02:58.370 so it's good to remember these things. 59 00:02:58.370 --> 00:03:01.500 Dr. McGuire received her BS degree, magna cum laude, 60 00:03:01.500 --> 00:03:04.050 from Southern University in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, 61 00:03:05.170 --> 00:03:06.760 her master's degree from Cornell University, 62 00:03:06.760 --> 00:03:10.300 and her PhD from University of Tennessee at Knoxville, 63 00:03:10.300 --> 00:03:12.730 where she also received a Chancellor's Citation 64 00:03:12.730 --> 00:03:14.963 for Exceptional Professional Promise. 65 00:03:16.700 --> 00:03:19.050 She's married to Dr. Steven C. McGuire, 66 00:03:19.050 --> 00:03:21.910 the James and Ruth Smith Emeritus Professor of Physics 67 00:03:21.910 --> 00:03:23.370 at Southern University. 68 00:03:24.850 --> 00:03:28.283 And just to add to all of the accolades that I just read, 69 00:03:29.270 --> 00:03:32.100 they are the parents of Dr. Carla McGuire Davis 70 00:03:32.100 --> 00:03:33.910 and Dr. Stephanie McGuire, 71 00:03:33.910 --> 00:03:35.810 and the doting grandparents of Joshua, 72 00:03:35.810 --> 00:03:38.800 Ruth, Daniel, and Joseph Davis. 73 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:41.760 I think there's no better way to accentuate 74 00:03:41.760 --> 00:03:45.140 all of those accomplishments with that final statement. 75 00:03:45.140 --> 00:03:48.580 So Dr. McGuire, my pleasure to welcome you to UVM 76 00:03:48.580 --> 00:03:52.560 for the second time today, the audience is yours. 77 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:54.700 Well, thank you so much. 78 00:03:54.700 --> 00:03:57.380 Yes, and I'm still amazed that you remember the year. 79 00:03:57.380 --> 00:03:58.880 I used to put the year in there, 80 00:03:58.880 --> 00:04:01.320 but then when it was 10 years in the past, 81 00:04:01.320 --> 00:04:03.670 I left the year out, and you're the first person 82 00:04:03.670 --> 00:04:05.590 who has ever introduced me 83 00:04:05.590 --> 00:04:09.320 who could conjure up the year and present it. 84 00:04:09.320 --> 00:04:11.100 So thank you so much. 85 00:04:11.100 --> 00:04:13.360 And yeah, I said, you know, 86 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:15.810 before we were these doting grandparents, 87 00:04:15.810 --> 00:04:18.810 but I wrote that when the grandkids were a lot younger, 88 00:04:18.810 --> 00:04:22.040 I think we're not quite as doting as we used to be. 89 00:04:22.040 --> 00:04:23.770 But you know, when the older two 90 00:04:23.770 --> 00:04:25.720 are about to graduate from college now. 91 00:04:26.612 --> 00:04:30.170 But I wanna thank all of you for coming this afternoon. 92 00:04:30.170 --> 00:04:31.660 It's more people than I expected, 93 00:04:31.660 --> 00:04:34.893 I thought maybe around 20, 25 and we are over 30. 94 00:04:36.591 --> 00:04:40.490 And I had lots of fun this morning with folks at UVM, 95 00:04:40.490 --> 00:04:42.120 and so I anticipate we're gonna 96 00:04:43.273 --> 00:04:44.271 have lots of fun this afternoon, 97 00:04:44.271 --> 00:04:47.890 but there were so many CMS folks there this morning 98 00:04:47.890 --> 00:04:49.820 that I am just wondering 99 00:04:49.820 --> 00:04:52.110 if you were there this morning or not? 100 00:04:52.110 --> 00:04:54.030 So Polly has been wonderful, 101 00:04:54.030 --> 00:04:58.947 she put in another poll question and let's see. 102 00:05:01.371 --> 00:05:02.204 Yeah, so answer that. 103 00:05:02.204 --> 00:05:05.143 Actually, Polly, is that your name? 104 00:05:07.973 --> 00:05:09.300 It's with Holly with an H. 105 00:05:09.300 --> 00:05:10.610 I'm sorry, say that? 106 00:05:10.610 --> 00:05:13.067 Holly with an H. Holly, 107 00:05:13.067 --> 00:05:14.480 okay, that's a brain thing, 108 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:16.520 and I'll tell you what happened there. 109 00:05:16.520 --> 00:05:18.041 Okay, yeah, 110 00:05:18.041 --> 00:05:20.050 so let me know if you were in the first session because, 111 00:05:20.050 --> 00:05:21.500 oh, okay, so so far, 112 00:05:21.500 --> 00:05:23.500 only about a fourth of the people were not. 113 00:05:23.500 --> 00:05:24.593 Yeah, so Holly, 114 00:05:24.593 --> 00:05:27.980 I think my brain went to the O, L, L, Y, 115 00:05:27.980 --> 00:05:32.100 but the polling feature in Microsoft teams, 116 00:05:32.100 --> 00:05:35.733 I learned just a couple of months ago is Polly. 117 00:05:37.911 --> 00:05:39.511 And so, yeah, did you know that? 118 00:05:40.519 --> 00:05:41.700 Yes, the inverted icon. 119 00:05:41.700 --> 00:05:42.830 Yes. Right. 120 00:05:42.830 --> 00:05:45.020 Okay, and so then my brain is going, you know, 121 00:05:45.020 --> 00:05:46.023 O, L, L, Y, 122 00:05:46.858 --> 00:05:48.797 but it puts a P there, but I said Polly, 123 00:05:48.797 --> 00:05:50.503 and I said, no, that can't be right, 124 00:05:51.465 --> 00:05:53.093 but I couldn't figure out why I wanted to make it Polly, 125 00:05:53.976 --> 00:05:54.809 and so now I understand why. 126 00:05:54.809 --> 00:05:56.650 Okay, and I think that's an important point 127 00:05:56.650 --> 00:06:01.510 for the presentation when we talk about how the brain 128 00:06:01.510 --> 00:06:04.970 kind of makes us do crazy things. 129 00:06:04.970 --> 00:06:08.980 But there's always a reason for why these mistakes come up. 130 00:06:08.980 --> 00:06:12.310 And I think part of metacognition is really doing 131 00:06:12.310 --> 00:06:15.530 that analysis and figuring out why our brains 132 00:06:15.530 --> 00:06:17.423 led us in the wrong on direction. 133 00:06:18.456 --> 00:06:19.603 So, okay, oh, this is great, 134 00:06:20.673 --> 00:06:21.600 okay, so only 20% of the people were there this morning. 135 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:24.120 I was thinking it would be more like around, you know, 136 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:27.274 60 or 70, so this is great. 137 00:06:27.274 --> 00:06:29.460 And I'm really happy to see the folks 138 00:06:29.460 --> 00:06:32.060 who were there this morning, come back, 139 00:06:32.060 --> 00:06:34.700 and I can let you know that a lot of what you saw 140 00:06:34.700 --> 00:06:36.803 this morning, you'll see again, 141 00:06:37.810 --> 00:06:40.370 but I want you to look at it kind of with 142 00:06:40.370 --> 00:06:41.713 a fresh set of lenses. 143 00:06:42.732 --> 00:06:44.096 One of the things that I tell students 144 00:06:44.096 --> 00:06:46.870 when I encourage them to review their lecture notes, 145 00:06:46.870 --> 00:06:48.960 as soon after class as possible. 146 00:06:48.960 --> 00:06:51.434 And I say, when you do that, 147 00:06:51.434 --> 00:06:52.790 you're gonna see things that you didn't see before, 148 00:06:52.790 --> 00:06:54.800 and I give them the example of seeing 149 00:06:54.800 --> 00:06:56.810 a movie more than one time. 150 00:06:56.810 --> 00:06:59.015 And I ask them if they've noticed 151 00:06:59.015 --> 00:07:00.194 that they see different things? 152 00:07:00.194 --> 00:07:01.215 And they say, yeah. 153 00:07:01.215 --> 00:07:02.214 And I said, well, 154 00:07:02.214 --> 00:07:04.120 treat this when you go over the lecture as that same thing, 155 00:07:04.120 --> 00:07:06.260 you're looking for things that you didn't notice before. 156 00:07:06.260 --> 00:07:09.310 So those of you who are returning, 157 00:07:09.310 --> 00:07:11.690 please approach it through those lens 158 00:07:11.690 --> 00:07:14.010 and feel free in the chat box, 159 00:07:14.010 --> 00:07:16.220 if I say something that's different 160 00:07:16.220 --> 00:07:17.390 than what I said this morning, say, 161 00:07:17.390 --> 00:07:18.570 you didn't say that this morning, 162 00:07:18.570 --> 00:07:19.740 just challenge me on it, 163 00:07:19.740 --> 00:07:21.403 feel free to do that. 164 00:07:22.270 --> 00:07:25.470 But the thanks again for coming back for round two. 165 00:07:25.470 --> 00:07:28.550 And for those of you who are here for the first time, 166 00:07:28.550 --> 00:07:32.250 I have to warn you, I use the chat box a lot. 167 00:07:32.250 --> 00:07:33.860 I ask a lot of questions, 168 00:07:33.860 --> 00:07:35.660 there are no right or wrong answers 169 00:07:35.660 --> 00:07:37.400 to any of the questions that I ask, 170 00:07:37.400 --> 00:07:39.500 I just wanna know what you're thinking, 171 00:07:39.500 --> 00:07:41.033 what your experience has been. 172 00:07:42.094 --> 00:07:42.927 And so we're gonna be talking 173 00:07:42.927 --> 00:07:45.343 about teaching STEM students how to learn. 174 00:07:46.555 --> 00:07:48.840 And I say, metacognition is the key to that. 175 00:07:48.840 --> 00:07:53.840 And I do want to know a little bit about your familiarity 176 00:07:54.600 --> 00:07:56.080 with the work that I've done, 177 00:07:56.080 --> 00:07:57.250 you know a little bit about me, 178 00:07:57.250 --> 00:07:58.990 and so I want to know a little bit about you, 179 00:07:58.990 --> 00:08:01.460 because as you heard in the introduction, I've done, 180 00:08:01.460 --> 00:08:03.570 you know, over 500 of these, 181 00:08:03.570 --> 00:08:05.310 I've spoken at PCAL events, 182 00:08:05.310 --> 00:08:08.070 I've spoken at other STEM national conferences, 183 00:08:08.070 --> 00:08:13.040 and so I wanted to see where you are 184 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:15.950 in terms of having oh, okay, 185 00:08:15.950 --> 00:08:18.420 and most of you again are none of the above. 186 00:08:18.420 --> 00:08:23.310 And typically what I like to do is when we're up to about, 187 00:08:23.310 --> 00:08:26.580 oh, maybe 70% of the folks attending. 188 00:08:26.580 --> 00:08:31.580 Okay, and since Zoom gives me total percent attended, 189 00:08:32.014 --> 00:08:33.138 but I don't see this here. 190 00:08:33.138 --> 00:08:34.490 So since we have a total of 34 people, 191 00:08:34.490 --> 00:08:37.240 when we get to about 30 responses 192 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:38.880 and we're already over that, 193 00:08:38.880 --> 00:08:40.550 I'll give you the five second warning, 194 00:08:40.550 --> 00:08:42.063 so you can get your votes in, 195 00:08:42.910 --> 00:08:45.110 and we will see what we come up with. 196 00:08:45.110 --> 00:08:46.100 And unlike Zoom, 197 00:08:46.100 --> 00:08:48.630 I know that you can see the results in the chat box 198 00:08:48.630 --> 00:08:50.700 so we can see that, yeah, 199 00:08:50.700 --> 00:08:52.503 almost 80%, none, 200 00:08:53.520 --> 00:08:55.330 one person has read the book, 201 00:08:55.330 --> 00:08:56.840 two people in the webinar, 202 00:08:56.840 --> 00:08:58.450 and four in an in-person workshop. 203 00:08:58.450 --> 00:08:59.890 Great, okay, thanks. 204 00:08:59.890 --> 00:09:02.650 And then my last whole question for right now 205 00:09:02.650 --> 00:09:07.650 is how familiar are you with the term, metacognition? 206 00:09:08.560 --> 00:09:13.560 Because that's the framework that I present 207 00:09:14.230 --> 00:09:15.863 this work to students in, 208 00:09:17.200 --> 00:09:19.633 and I'll tell you why in just a minute, 209 00:09:20.490 --> 00:09:22.620 and so sometimes I speak to audiences 210 00:09:22.620 --> 00:09:26.683 and they're very familiar with it, sometimes not so much. 211 00:09:28.176 --> 00:09:31.300 Okay, and I see a lot of folks are saying a little bit, 212 00:09:31.300 --> 00:09:33.500 only three, quite a lot, 213 00:09:33.500 --> 00:09:36.223 so far, nobody more than I of care to know. 214 00:09:37.500 --> 00:09:40.270 Okay, and oh, we are already up to 33. 215 00:09:40.270 --> 00:09:43.580 So, okay, 216 00:09:43.580 --> 00:09:46.620 so we'll end it now, and I see that, 217 00:09:46.620 --> 00:09:50.330 okay, so almost 90% say almost nothing or a little bit. 218 00:09:50.330 --> 00:09:52.370 So this is great. 219 00:09:52.370 --> 00:09:55.970 Okay, and so the faculty resource, 220 00:09:55.970 --> 00:09:57.720 the book that has everything 221 00:09:57.720 --> 00:09:59.832 that we're talking about this morning 222 00:09:59.832 --> 00:10:00.950 and additional information 223 00:10:00.950 --> 00:10:05.560 is in "Teach Students How to Learn", and the agenda, 224 00:10:05.560 --> 00:10:07.309 I'm gonna talk a little bit, 225 00:10:07.309 --> 00:10:08.570 I didn't say anything this morning about 226 00:10:08.570 --> 00:10:10.970 what I call metacognitive equity, 227 00:10:10.970 --> 00:10:12.860 but we're gonna talk a little bit about that. 228 00:10:12.860 --> 00:10:14.840 And then I'll show you the impact of teaching 229 00:10:14.840 --> 00:10:17.010 these metacognitive strategies to individuals, 230 00:10:17.010 --> 00:10:19.670 to classes, and institution wide. 231 00:10:19.670 --> 00:10:21.520 We'll talk a little bit about Bloom's Taxonomy 232 00:10:21.520 --> 00:10:22.800 and the study cycle, 233 00:10:22.800 --> 00:10:25.860 and then the role of mindset in student learning, 234 00:10:25.860 --> 00:10:29.450 and then we'll have a conclusion and wrap up. 235 00:10:29.450 --> 00:10:31.510 And so with metacognition, 236 00:10:31.510 --> 00:10:35.670 the reason that I use that as the framework 237 00:10:35.670 --> 00:10:38.550 for what I discuss with students, 238 00:10:38.550 --> 00:10:43.240 in terms of how to more effectively study, 239 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:44.970 how to more effectively learn, 240 00:10:44.970 --> 00:10:48.160 I talk about metacognition as opposed to study skills. 241 00:10:48.160 --> 00:10:49.860 Very often we talk about, 242 00:10:49.860 --> 00:10:51.660 we gotta teach students study skills, 243 00:10:51.660 --> 00:10:54.810 but I find that students, when you say study skills, 244 00:10:54.810 --> 00:10:56.020 I'm gonna teach you study skills, 245 00:10:56.020 --> 00:10:57.660 their eyes kind of glaze over. 246 00:10:57.660 --> 00:10:59.880 They don't wanna hear anything about study skills. 247 00:10:59.880 --> 00:11:04.880 And you have very prepared students who come to UVM, 248 00:11:05.490 --> 00:11:08.650 at least according to the normal metrics, 249 00:11:08.650 --> 00:11:11.450 especially the ones who are going into STEM disciplines. 250 00:11:12.748 --> 00:11:14.330 And so they feel that they are really prepared 251 00:11:14.330 --> 00:11:16.810 for this place, they don't think they need any study skills. 252 00:11:16.810 --> 00:11:18.700 And so I found that students 253 00:11:18.700 --> 00:11:20.948 really weren't interested in that, 254 00:11:20.948 --> 00:11:22.988 but when I talked about metacognition, 255 00:11:22.988 --> 00:11:25.288 it was a term that most of them had not heard. 256 00:11:26.291 --> 00:11:28.150 And so I have them dissect the word, is it simple? 257 00:11:28.150 --> 00:11:29.563 Is it compound? 258 00:11:30.511 --> 00:11:31.410 What does the root word mean? 259 00:11:31.410 --> 00:11:32.580 What does the prefix mean? 260 00:11:32.580 --> 00:11:35.360 And so we actually digest the word. 261 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:39.280 And so it really comes down to metacognition, 262 00:11:39.280 --> 00:11:42.920 just a term that was coined by Flavell back in 1976, 263 00:11:42.920 --> 00:11:44.989 very simply put, 264 00:11:44.989 --> 00:11:47.439 is your ability to think about your own thinking. 265 00:11:48.793 --> 00:11:49.860 Now, there are a lot more complicated, 266 00:11:49.860 --> 00:11:52.380 involved definitions of metacognition 267 00:11:53.228 --> 00:11:55.060 with different types of metacognition, etcetera. 268 00:11:55.060 --> 00:11:56.950 But I find that when I'm talking to students, 269 00:11:56.950 --> 00:12:01.570 if I want them to really take something away intuitively 270 00:12:01.570 --> 00:12:04.230 and do something with the information I'm giving them, 271 00:12:04.230 --> 00:12:05.820 it's gotta be simple, it's gotta be something 272 00:12:05.820 --> 00:12:08.420 that they can really wrap their minds around. 273 00:12:08.420 --> 00:12:10.410 And so I tell 'em that it's as if you have 274 00:12:10.410 --> 00:12:12.727 a big brain outside your brain, 275 00:12:12.727 --> 00:12:14.003 looking at what your brain is doing, 276 00:12:15.009 --> 00:12:16.693 and that big brain is asking your brain questions, 277 00:12:17.840 --> 00:12:18.870 and it's saying, does she understand this information? 278 00:12:18.870 --> 00:12:20.670 Or did she just memorize it last night 279 00:12:20.670 --> 00:12:22.273 because the test is today? 280 00:12:23.348 --> 00:12:24.840 It's your ability to be consciously aware 281 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:29.250 that you are a problem solver, that when things come up, 282 00:12:29.250 --> 00:12:31.550 that you don't think you know how to solve, 283 00:12:31.550 --> 00:12:35.740 then you probably do have the ability to solve that. 284 00:12:35.740 --> 00:12:37.832 The example I gave this morning was that students 285 00:12:37.832 --> 00:12:41.453 ask questions that are on the syllabus. 286 00:12:41.453 --> 00:12:42.570 And if they're not using their metacognitive brain, 287 00:12:42.570 --> 00:12:44.173 then they think, oh, 288 00:12:44.173 --> 00:12:45.710 I need to go ask the professor how many tests 289 00:12:45.710 --> 00:12:47.396 we're gonna have in this course. 290 00:12:47.396 --> 00:12:49.530 And the metacognitive brain points them to the syllabus 291 00:12:49.530 --> 00:12:51.630 where they can get that information. 292 00:12:51.630 --> 00:12:52.770 When I talk to students, 293 00:12:52.770 --> 00:12:55.490 the example I get is procrastination, 294 00:12:55.490 --> 00:12:57.063 that so many people have, 295 00:12:58.095 --> 00:13:00.150 and if you are not using your metacognitive brain, 296 00:13:00.150 --> 00:13:02.180 then you just accept that you're a procrastinator, 297 00:13:02.180 --> 00:13:03.720 there's nothing you can do about it. 298 00:13:03.720 --> 00:13:05.420 But the metacognitive brain says, no, 299 00:13:05.420 --> 00:13:07.770 we need to solve this problem of procrastination. 300 00:13:07.770 --> 00:13:09.397 And then your brain says, 301 00:13:09.397 --> 00:13:10.950 well, what am I supposed to do? 302 00:13:10.950 --> 00:13:12.095 And the metacognitive brain says, well, 303 00:13:12.095 --> 00:13:12.928 I know you don't know what to do now, 304 00:13:12.928 --> 00:13:14.715 but there's a bunch of stuff 305 00:13:14.715 --> 00:13:17.270 you didn't know anything about that you took the steps 306 00:13:17.270 --> 00:13:19.200 to find out something about. 307 00:13:19.200 --> 00:13:21.820 And here's the first question for the chat, 308 00:13:21.820 --> 00:13:24.850 I ask students, when something comes up, 309 00:13:24.850 --> 00:13:26.720 let's say you've heard a new slang term 310 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:28.250 and you have no idea what it means, 311 00:13:28.250 --> 00:13:30.020 and you wanna find out what it means, 312 00:13:30.020 --> 00:13:33.410 what do you do to find out what that means? 313 00:13:33.410 --> 00:13:36.220 And I can ask you, what do you do 314 00:13:36.220 --> 00:13:39.020 if you've heard about something you don't know 315 00:13:39.020 --> 00:13:40.733 anything about, but you wanna find out something about it, 316 00:13:40.733 --> 00:13:41.566 what do you do? 317 00:13:42.740 --> 00:13:45.230 And I'll see if your response is, exactly, 318 00:13:45.230 --> 00:13:46.955 Google it, Linda, 319 00:13:46.955 --> 00:13:48.738 yeah, that's the first thing students say. 320 00:13:48.738 --> 00:13:49.640 And so the metacognitive brain says, well, 321 00:13:49.640 --> 00:13:52.420 you Google everything else, so Google that. 322 00:13:52.420 --> 00:13:56.070 And so if you were to Google, how to avoid procrastination, 323 00:13:56.070 --> 00:13:57.540 Kristen says, I ask my kids. 324 00:13:57.540 --> 00:14:00.173 Yes, and sometimes students say ask someone, 325 00:14:01.272 --> 00:14:03.650 and I point out that that can be a little bit risky, 326 00:14:03.650 --> 00:14:06.770 because I know Kristen, when I would ask my kids things, 327 00:14:06.770 --> 00:14:11.500 they would tell me what they wanted me to know about it, 328 00:14:11.500 --> 00:14:14.380 not necessarily what I needed to know about it. 329 00:14:14.380 --> 00:14:17.510 So I think asking kids is the great first step, 330 00:14:17.510 --> 00:14:20.780 but I'd still check on that using another source, 331 00:14:20.780 --> 00:14:21.653 if possible. 332 00:14:22.862 --> 00:14:25.730 And so if you were to Google, how to avoid procrastination, 333 00:14:25.730 --> 00:14:27.360 you're gonna find all kinds of strategies 334 00:14:27.360 --> 00:14:29.590 that are very helpful. 335 00:14:29.590 --> 00:14:32.050 It's your ability to plan, monitor, 336 00:14:32.050 --> 00:14:34.420 evaluate, and control your mental processing. 337 00:14:34.420 --> 00:14:37.378 So you know if you're understanding something 338 00:14:37.378 --> 00:14:39.264 or if you're just memorizing it. 339 00:14:39.264 --> 00:14:41.190 It's your ability to accurately judge 340 00:14:42.138 --> 00:14:43.676 your level of learning. 341 00:14:43.676 --> 00:14:47.260 And that is huge because how many of you have ever, 342 00:14:47.260 --> 00:14:48.500 just gimme a yes or no, 343 00:14:48.500 --> 00:14:51.370 if you've ever had a student who got a test back, 344 00:14:51.370 --> 00:14:53.530 didn't do very well, and they came to you and they say, 345 00:14:53.530 --> 00:14:54.940 well, I don't know what happened 346 00:14:54.940 --> 00:14:58.610 because I studied for hours and hours for that test. 347 00:14:58.610 --> 00:15:01.940 Have you ever had a student say that, 348 00:15:01.940 --> 00:15:04.620 and put yes if you haven't, nos are fine also. 349 00:15:04.620 --> 00:15:05.880 Okay, and say yes. 350 00:15:05.880 --> 00:15:08.470 And those students are typically not lying. 351 00:15:08.470 --> 00:15:12.600 They did spend hours and hours studying for the test. 352 00:15:12.600 --> 00:15:16.530 But what activities were they involved in during that time 353 00:15:16.530 --> 00:15:19.090 where they were studying for hours and hours? 354 00:15:19.090 --> 00:15:21.140 What are some of the things that they were doing? 355 00:15:21.140 --> 00:15:22.720 Yeah, that's right, 356 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:23.553 Kristen, they say I knew everything, 357 00:15:23.553 --> 00:15:24.540 and when I sat down for the test, 358 00:15:24.540 --> 00:15:26.190 it just flew right outta my head. 359 00:15:27.180 --> 00:15:28.013 Okay, John says, 360 00:15:28.013 --> 00:15:29.675 including my own children. 361 00:15:29.675 --> 00:15:30.513 Yeah, but what activity, 362 00:15:31.437 --> 00:15:33.270 exactly, they were just rereading the book 363 00:15:33.270 --> 00:15:37.920 or reviewing notes, sometimes they were highlighting things. 364 00:15:37.920 --> 00:15:40.780 Absolutely, and they were memorizing stuff, 365 00:15:40.780 --> 00:15:43.822 they were memorizing as they were going along. 366 00:15:43.822 --> 00:15:46.070 And so if we asked questions on our task, 367 00:15:46.070 --> 00:15:48.810 let's say it was a chemistry test 368 00:15:48.810 --> 00:15:51.490 and it was covering acids and bases, and if we, 369 00:15:51.490 --> 00:15:54.410 I had a question like define strong acids, 370 00:15:54.410 --> 00:15:57.100 define weak acid, define strong base, 371 00:15:57.100 --> 00:15:58.630 weak base, they're good to go, 372 00:15:58.630 --> 00:16:00.810 'cause they have memorized those definitions. 373 00:16:00.810 --> 00:16:03.620 But those are not the kinds of questions we ask. 374 00:16:03.620 --> 00:16:06.290 We might give them a list of acids 375 00:16:06.290 --> 00:16:08.990 and ask them to pick out the strong ones and the weak ones. 376 00:16:08.990 --> 00:16:11.930 Or we might ask something that's a characteristic 377 00:16:11.930 --> 00:16:14.270 of a strong acid, which one of these 378 00:16:14.270 --> 00:16:17.380 are gonna totally disassociate when we put 'em in water? 379 00:16:17.380 --> 00:16:19.060 Well, they're not prepared to do that 380 00:16:19.060 --> 00:16:21.900 because all they've done is memorized definitions. 381 00:16:21.900 --> 00:16:23.350 And so they're studying, 382 00:16:23.350 --> 00:16:25.580 but they're studying at too low a level. 383 00:16:25.580 --> 00:16:29.870 And for me, that's where Bloom's Taxonomy comes in. 384 00:16:29.870 --> 00:16:31.730 So put in the chat box for me, please, 385 00:16:31.730 --> 00:16:33.210 if you would say, yes or no, 386 00:16:33.210 --> 00:16:36.580 are you very familiar with Bloom's Taxonomy? 387 00:16:36.580 --> 00:16:37.800 And it's okay if you're not, 388 00:16:37.800 --> 00:16:40.990 'cause I'm gonna talk about how I present it to students. 389 00:16:40.990 --> 00:16:43.870 Okay, I'm seeing some nos. 390 00:16:43.870 --> 00:16:45.730 Okay, mostly yeses, somewhat. 391 00:16:45.730 --> 00:16:48.350 Okay, yeah, and so we're gonna talk about what Bloom's is. 392 00:16:48.350 --> 00:16:51.200 It's basically just a hierarchy of learning levels, 393 00:16:51.200 --> 00:16:53.653 where memorization is at the bottom. 394 00:16:55.002 --> 00:16:56.830 And then it goes up to understanding, 395 00:16:56.830 --> 00:16:59.633 to application, analysis, etcetera. 396 00:17:00.558 --> 00:17:01.983 And so when I ask students, 397 00:17:03.023 --> 00:17:05.440 if they've ever heard a professor say something like, 398 00:17:05.440 --> 00:17:07.510 this is the university, you're at the university now, 399 00:17:07.510 --> 00:17:08.800 this is not high school anymore, 400 00:17:08.800 --> 00:17:11.600 you gotta kick it up a notch, all the hands go up. 401 00:17:11.600 --> 00:17:12.713 But then when I ask, 402 00:17:13.770 --> 00:17:15.130 who thinks you can me exactly what those professors 403 00:17:15.130 --> 00:17:17.290 are talking about when they make that statement? 404 00:17:17.290 --> 00:17:18.390 Almost nobody can. 405 00:17:18.390 --> 00:17:20.750 And the ones that do, they'll say things like, 406 00:17:20.750 --> 00:17:24.910 oh, that means that UVM is gonna be harder than high school. 407 00:17:24.910 --> 00:17:26.720 They might say, that means that we're gonna have 408 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:29.340 to spend a lot more time on our courses. 409 00:17:29.340 --> 00:17:31.980 Sometimes they'll say, we have to take more responsibility 410 00:17:31.980 --> 00:17:34.230 for our own learning. 411 00:17:34.230 --> 00:17:36.760 And I say, yeah, that's true, 412 00:17:36.760 --> 00:17:39.890 but how many of you've ever heard of Bloom's Taxonomy, 413 00:17:39.890 --> 00:17:42.050 and almost nobody has. 414 00:17:42.050 --> 00:17:46.540 And so I think Bloom's is so important because I think 415 00:17:46.540 --> 00:17:49.960 that's the lens through which students have to evaluate 416 00:17:49.960 --> 00:17:53.720 that statement when we say you've gotta kick it up a notch, 417 00:17:53.720 --> 00:17:54.553 kick it up a level, 418 00:17:54.553 --> 00:17:56.460 because if they don't even know levels exist, 419 00:17:56.460 --> 00:17:57.940 there's no way that they will know how 420 00:17:57.940 --> 00:17:59.040 to kick it up a notch. 421 00:17:59.930 --> 00:18:01.610 Oh, there's another question I wanna ask, 422 00:18:01.610 --> 00:18:04.000 since most of us were familiar with Bloom's, 423 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:05.700 for those of us who were familiar, 424 00:18:05.700 --> 00:18:08.650 have you ever explicitly taught Bloom's, 425 00:18:08.650 --> 00:18:10.362 and so this will be just 426 00:18:10.362 --> 00:18:11.980 for the people who said yes or somewhat, 427 00:18:11.980 --> 00:18:15.740 have you ever explicitly taught Bloom's Taxonomy 428 00:18:15.740 --> 00:18:17.510 to your students? 429 00:18:17.510 --> 00:18:19.763 Give me a yes or no on that. 430 00:18:20.954 --> 00:18:23.940 Okay, I see a couple of yeses, 431 00:18:23.940 --> 00:18:25.360 but I'm seeing mostly nos. 432 00:18:25.360 --> 00:18:27.510 Yeah, and I certainly understand the nos, 433 00:18:27.510 --> 00:18:30.650 because I never taught Bloom's Taxonomy, 434 00:18:30.650 --> 00:18:33.650 and I never taught it because 435 00:18:33.650 --> 00:18:35.810 I didn't think that it was for students. 436 00:18:35.810 --> 00:18:38.440 I learned Bloom's Taxonomy when I was a graduate student 437 00:18:38.440 --> 00:18:41.250 because my PhD is in chemical education. 438 00:18:41.250 --> 00:18:44.870 But I learned it as a construct that we 439 00:18:44.870 --> 00:18:47.570 as faculty could use to target our instruction, 440 00:18:47.570 --> 00:18:50.540 to target our assessments, I never taught it to students. 441 00:18:50.540 --> 00:18:54.070 But when I got to LSU, the Center for Academic Success here, 442 00:18:54.070 --> 00:18:56.790 they were teaching it to students with great success. 443 00:18:56.790 --> 00:18:59.150 And so I started teaching it to students, 444 00:18:59.150 --> 00:19:01.340 and the number one reaction I would get from students 445 00:19:01.340 --> 00:19:03.233 is they would say, wow, 446 00:19:04.157 --> 00:19:07.260 this is so helpful, why didn't anybody teach me this before? 447 00:19:07.260 --> 00:19:09.583 I wish I had known about this in high school. 448 00:19:10.701 --> 00:19:12.670 And so now I teach students to Bloom's 449 00:19:12.670 --> 00:19:15.520 and it is really transformational for them. 450 00:19:15.520 --> 00:19:17.880 And I do workshops for grad school students, 451 00:19:17.880 --> 00:19:19.690 med school students, dental school students, 452 00:19:19.690 --> 00:19:20.760 law school students, 453 00:19:20.760 --> 00:19:23.580 and almost none of them have seen Bloom's. 454 00:19:23.580 --> 00:19:24.770 And when they see it, 455 00:19:24.770 --> 00:19:27.920 that's when the flash bulbs go off for them, 456 00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:31.740 they see exactly what people are talking about 457 00:19:31.740 --> 00:19:34.030 when we say this is a higher level 458 00:19:34.030 --> 00:19:35.543 than where you were before. 459 00:19:36.597 --> 00:19:37.430 And it's your ability to know what you know, 460 00:19:37.430 --> 00:19:38.815 but you don't know. 461 00:19:38.815 --> 00:19:39.648 So you don't show up at a test or a quiz thinking, 462 00:19:39.648 --> 00:19:41.540 okay, I studied all night, 463 00:19:41.540 --> 00:19:43.240 I'm good, I know this stuff, 464 00:19:43.240 --> 00:19:46.570 I know everything, and then you sit down and it's like, 465 00:19:46.570 --> 00:19:48.720 you look at the first two questions, hmm, 466 00:19:48.720 --> 00:19:50.160 and this idea of, you know, 467 00:19:50.160 --> 00:19:52.740 I knew everything before I set down to take the test, 468 00:19:52.740 --> 00:19:55.063 and then it just flew right out of my head. 469 00:19:56.233 --> 00:19:57.240 Have you heard that? 470 00:19:57.240 --> 00:19:58.314 Give me a yes or no. 471 00:19:58.314 --> 00:20:00.353 Have you heard that from any students? 472 00:20:00.353 --> 00:20:04.590 Because students tend to think that they, okay, 473 00:20:04.590 --> 00:20:05.737 I'm seeing yeses, yeah. 474 00:20:05.737 --> 00:20:07.293 And so they tend to think, 475 00:20:08.177 --> 00:20:09.050 they really believe in their heart of hearts 476 00:20:09.050 --> 00:20:11.370 that they knew everything and they sat down 477 00:20:11.370 --> 00:20:12.380 and take the test, 478 00:20:12.380 --> 00:20:13.440 Laura says, just last week, 479 00:20:13.440 --> 00:20:16.460 and it flew right out of their head. 480 00:20:16.460 --> 00:20:19.020 And so when that happens, they think they have what? 481 00:20:19.020 --> 00:20:20.501 They say, well, 482 00:20:20.501 --> 00:20:22.860 it just flew right outta my head, so I think I have, 483 00:20:22.860 --> 00:20:25.176 what do they think they have? 484 00:20:25.176 --> 00:20:27.440 Because they knew it before they sat down to take the test 485 00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:30.620 and then they sat down, it flew right out of their head, 486 00:20:30.620 --> 00:20:32.710 and maybe none of your students have said this, 487 00:20:32.710 --> 00:20:36.190 but I have students, exactly, Caroline, 488 00:20:36.190 --> 00:20:37.780 yes, and Kristen, 489 00:20:37.780 --> 00:20:39.170 test anxiety, they say, 490 00:20:39.170 --> 00:20:40.860 oh, I have test anxiety. 491 00:20:40.860 --> 00:20:43.170 Now I don't wanna make light of test anxiety 492 00:20:43.170 --> 00:20:45.623 because test anxiety is a real phenomenon, 493 00:20:46.694 --> 00:20:49.240 but most students who think they have test anxiety, 494 00:20:49.240 --> 00:20:51.584 really don't have test anxiety. 495 00:20:51.584 --> 00:20:53.640 People who have real test anxiety, 496 00:20:53.640 --> 00:20:55.440 you will have physiological symptoms, 497 00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:58.000 you'll have sweaty palms, you'll start to perspire, 498 00:20:58.000 --> 00:20:59.670 your heart starts to race, 499 00:20:59.670 --> 00:21:01.560 and this doesn't happen with most students. 500 00:21:01.560 --> 00:21:03.400 Now they're pretty anxious, alright, 501 00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:05.590 but they're anxious because they know 502 00:21:06.729 --> 00:21:08.399 that they haven't mastered the material, 503 00:21:08.399 --> 00:21:09.790 because when did most of them sit down 504 00:21:09.790 --> 00:21:12.970 to really study for the test that's coming up? 505 00:21:12.970 --> 00:21:14.913 Give me that in the chat box? 506 00:21:16.250 --> 00:21:17.083 Okay, yeah, 507 00:21:17.083 --> 00:21:18.480 I'm not good at tests, that's another, 508 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:20.410 exactly, last night. 509 00:21:20.410 --> 00:21:24.040 And so they know that they really haven't mastered 510 00:21:24.040 --> 00:21:25.770 the material 'cause they just started studying 511 00:21:25.770 --> 00:21:30.260 it last night, and that's the source of the anxiety. 512 00:21:30.260 --> 00:21:32.497 And so when we can teach students these strategies 513 00:21:32.497 --> 00:21:34.680 and teach them that they're really preparing 514 00:21:34.680 --> 00:21:36.850 for the test throughout the course, 515 00:21:36.850 --> 00:21:40.740 then that anxiety tamps down and they can do well. 516 00:21:40.740 --> 00:21:44.770 I can assure you if I had just started to learn this stuff 517 00:21:44.770 --> 00:21:46.420 that we're talking about today last night, 518 00:21:46.420 --> 00:21:48.410 I'd be pretty anxious right now. 519 00:21:48.410 --> 00:21:50.930 And so I think we can help students understand 520 00:21:50.930 --> 00:21:53.110 the difference between true test anxiety 521 00:21:54.415 --> 00:21:56.770 and this anxiety that they get because their brain 522 00:21:56.770 --> 00:21:58.310 knows they're not prepared. 523 00:21:58.310 --> 00:22:00.780 Okay, I mentioned metacognitive equity, 524 00:22:00.780 --> 00:22:03.160 and I've written an article on that. 525 00:22:03.160 --> 00:22:06.800 But equity is related to educational equity, 526 00:22:06.800 --> 00:22:09.900 looking at that discrepancy in outcomes between 527 00:22:09.900 --> 00:22:12.137 different groups of students, 528 00:22:12.137 --> 00:22:15.240 and metacognitive equity involves reducing the discrepancy 529 00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:19.940 in metacognition or thinking strategies between students 530 00:22:19.940 --> 00:22:23.060 from low income versus high income, 531 00:22:23.060 --> 00:22:25.840 well resourced schools versus poorly resourced schools, 532 00:22:25.840 --> 00:22:26.673 etcetera. 533 00:22:30.690 --> 00:22:33.340 And I think that the biggest gap in STEM, 534 00:22:33.340 --> 00:22:34.220 and other things too, 535 00:22:34.220 --> 00:22:37.090 comes from this gap in metacognitive equity. 536 00:22:37.090 --> 00:22:41.230 And I noticed that your division of diversity, equity, 537 00:22:41.230 --> 00:22:44.470 and inclusion has invited all units to do 538 00:22:44.470 --> 00:22:47.570 this inclusive excellence action plans. 539 00:22:47.570 --> 00:22:52.100 And CMS has an inclusive excellence action plan. 540 00:22:52.100 --> 00:22:55.110 And it is a very thorough plan, 541 00:22:55.110 --> 00:22:57.160 and I think you're in years two to three, 542 00:22:58.473 --> 00:23:00.150 and I noticed 'cause I was looking to see if there was 543 00:23:00.150 --> 00:23:02.230 a discrepancy between 544 00:23:02.230 --> 00:23:05.420 the success of minoritized students versus others, 545 00:23:05.420 --> 00:23:06.660 and here it is, in our college, 546 00:23:06.660 --> 00:23:09.375 students from historically underrepresented groups 547 00:23:09.375 --> 00:23:12.277 have significantly lower retention and graduation rates, 548 00:23:12.277 --> 00:23:14.350 which vary widely due to the small numbers. 549 00:23:14.350 --> 00:23:17.880 And it is this information that we're talking about now 550 00:23:17.880 --> 00:23:20.497 that I think will teach those students 551 00:23:20.497 --> 00:23:22.240 the metacognitive skills that they need, 552 00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:25.640 that their peers from more resource schools 553 00:23:25.640 --> 00:23:28.660 have probably come to UVM with, 554 00:23:28.660 --> 00:23:30.200 but they don't have these skills. 555 00:23:30.200 --> 00:23:31.280 And they can learn them, 556 00:23:31.280 --> 00:23:32.710 it's not that they can't learn them, 557 00:23:32.710 --> 00:23:34.150 but they haven't learned them before. 558 00:23:34.150 --> 00:23:36.500 And that's the source of the gap rather 559 00:23:36.500 --> 00:23:40.310 than any kind of lack of ability or anything like that. 560 00:23:40.310 --> 00:23:42.970 And the gap comes from the fact that children 561 00:23:42.970 --> 00:23:45.070 from low income families enter high school 562 00:23:46.724 --> 00:23:48.198 with lower literacy levels, 563 00:23:48.198 --> 00:23:49.728 much lower than high school students, 564 00:23:49.728 --> 00:23:52.670 they have less access to mentors who are gonna model 565 00:23:52.670 --> 00:23:54.840 these metacognitive thinking skills. 566 00:23:54.840 --> 00:23:57.100 They're more likely to be less academically challenged, 567 00:23:57.100 --> 00:23:59.150 they're more likely to come from a school 568 00:24:00.813 --> 00:24:03.000 where they were the best student in the class, 569 00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:05.680 but when they take the SAT score, their SATs are, 570 00:24:05.680 --> 00:24:07.300 you know, 400, 500, 571 00:24:07.300 --> 00:24:10.360 and they have no idea that they are not 572 00:24:10.360 --> 00:24:12.030 as prepared as other students, 573 00:24:12.030 --> 00:24:13.210 and they're more likely to have 574 00:24:13.210 --> 00:24:15.710 this fixed mindset about intelligence. 575 00:24:15.710 --> 00:24:19.180 And that's where that self-fulfilling prophecy comes in, 576 00:24:19.180 --> 00:24:21.260 that Alexandria talks about, yeah, 577 00:24:21.260 --> 00:24:23.912 I can come from anxiety or I'm just not good at tests, 578 00:24:23.912 --> 00:24:27.630 and they think that they can't get any better. 579 00:24:27.630 --> 00:24:29.771 And we'll talk a little bit, 580 00:24:29.771 --> 00:24:31.670 as you saw, about mindset. 581 00:24:31.670 --> 00:24:32.940 Well, why is it that so many students 582 00:24:33.814 --> 00:24:34.647 haven't developed these strategies? 583 00:24:35.538 --> 00:24:37.054 Well, it just hasn't been necessary before. 584 00:24:37.054 --> 00:24:38.032 These are data from 585 00:24:38.032 --> 00:24:39.550 the UCLA Higher Education Research Institute 586 00:24:39.550 --> 00:24:42.130 who every year surveys first year students, 587 00:24:42.130 --> 00:24:44.270 I don't think they've done it since 2019, 588 00:24:44.270 --> 00:24:46.434 I haven't seen any data. 589 00:24:46.434 --> 00:24:48.356 I don't know if it's because of the pandemic? 590 00:24:48.356 --> 00:24:49.200 But they ask a lot of questions, 591 00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:51.900 but I'm particularly interested in the answers to two. 592 00:24:52.773 --> 00:24:55.140 One is how much time students spent doing any homework 593 00:24:55.140 --> 00:25:00.020 at all in 12th grade and the grade that they had, 594 00:25:00.020 --> 00:25:03.007 their average when they graduated from high school, 595 00:25:03.007 --> 00:25:06.030 and you'll see that in terms of the percent spending 596 00:25:06.030 --> 00:25:08.630 a minimum of six hours a week on homework, 597 00:25:08.630 --> 00:25:13.630 that is it hovers between the upper 30s to the low 40s, 598 00:25:13.670 --> 00:25:16.380 but the percent who graduated from high school 599 00:25:16.380 --> 00:25:17.523 with an, A average, 600 00:25:18.925 --> 00:25:20.740 that number crossed 50% in 2013. 601 00:25:20.740 --> 00:25:24.040 And in 2019, it was almost 60%. 602 00:25:24.040 --> 00:25:27.380 So what that means is our students are coming to us, 603 00:25:27.380 --> 00:25:29.750 not having done any work in high school, 604 00:25:29.750 --> 00:25:32.460 but they graduated with A, or in some cases, 605 00:25:32.460 --> 00:25:33.670 A+ averages, 606 00:25:33.670 --> 00:25:35.510 and so they think they're good to go 607 00:25:35.510 --> 00:25:39.230 and they won't need to do anything different at UVM 608 00:25:39.230 --> 00:25:42.220 to maintain the kind of academic success 609 00:25:42.220 --> 00:25:43.430 that they had in high school. 610 00:25:43.430 --> 00:25:45.090 So I always say that our students 611 00:25:45.090 --> 00:25:47.400 are really just being good scientists, 612 00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:49.760 they're just taking all of the data 613 00:25:49.760 --> 00:25:52.310 that they have accumulated in their 12 years 614 00:25:52.310 --> 00:25:53.810 before they get to us, 615 00:25:53.810 --> 00:25:58.810 and they are basing their decisions of how to behave, 616 00:25:59.210 --> 00:26:00.620 based on those data. 617 00:26:00.620 --> 00:26:04.330 And those data tell them, you don't need to do any homework, 618 00:26:04.330 --> 00:26:06.350 you're still gonna make an A in this class. 619 00:26:06.350 --> 00:26:09.140 And so that's why it's such a rude awakening 620 00:26:09.140 --> 00:26:10.280 when they get that. 621 00:26:10.280 --> 00:26:15.210 And I always encourage us to give our first test or a quiz 622 00:26:15.210 --> 00:26:17.390 within the first two weeks, 623 00:26:17.390 --> 00:26:19.810 the first quiz within the first week, if possible, 624 00:26:19.810 --> 00:26:23.440 because students of the caliber who come to UVM, 625 00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:25.670 they know they're all that and the bag of chips. 626 00:26:25.670 --> 00:26:29.830 And so they will not know that they're not headed to an A 627 00:26:29.830 --> 00:26:33.550 or A+ in your class until they get that wake up call. 628 00:26:33.550 --> 00:26:35.710 And the earlier they get the wake up call, 629 00:26:35.710 --> 00:26:39.260 the more interested they are in hearing these strategies. 630 00:26:39.260 --> 00:26:43.140 So it's important to let them know that this is different. 631 00:26:43.140 --> 00:26:46.190 Now college STEM courses are harder 632 00:26:46.190 --> 00:26:47.740 than high school courses, 633 00:26:47.740 --> 00:26:49.210 but the students have never taken 634 00:26:49.210 --> 00:26:50.630 a STEM college course before, 635 00:26:50.630 --> 00:26:53.250 so they don't know this to be the case, 636 00:26:53.250 --> 00:26:56.280 especially those students who've taken AP and IB courses, 637 00:26:56.280 --> 00:26:58.120 they think they are so ready. 638 00:26:58.120 --> 00:27:00.340 But you know, the course moves a lot faster, 639 00:27:00.340 --> 00:27:02.920 more conceptually difficult material, 640 00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:05.850 more involved problems, less straightforward tests, 641 00:27:05.850 --> 00:27:09.190 where they have to apply a lot of concepts at once, 642 00:27:09.190 --> 00:27:12.010 and most students are just not familiar with that. 643 00:27:12.010 --> 00:27:14.750 Now here's a question, 644 00:27:14.750 --> 00:27:16.700 and so those of you who were there this morning, 645 00:27:16.700 --> 00:27:18.700 you'll know the answers to a lot of these questions, 646 00:27:18.700 --> 00:27:21.510 so please don't put it in the chat box for now. 647 00:27:21.510 --> 00:27:23.690 But I'm gonna ask everybody else, 648 00:27:23.690 --> 00:27:25.500 when I worked with students, 649 00:27:25.500 --> 00:27:29.500 I would ask them to reflect on a lot of questions, 650 00:27:29.500 --> 00:27:33.890 and this is the important part of the approach that I take. 651 00:27:33.890 --> 00:27:36.380 I don't tell students, you need to do this, 652 00:27:36.380 --> 00:27:39.380 you need to do that, which is what I used to do, 653 00:27:39.380 --> 00:27:40.930 but I don't do that anymore. 654 00:27:40.930 --> 00:27:44.460 What I do is I ask reflection questions to get students 655 00:27:44.460 --> 00:27:49.460 to think about their past behavior and to analyze why 656 00:27:49.780 --> 00:27:51.440 that might not have been working 657 00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:53.410 and what they need to do in the future? 658 00:27:53.410 --> 00:27:56.170 And you'll see those as we go through the discussion. 659 00:27:56.170 --> 00:27:58.870 But I was asking these questions 660 00:27:58.870 --> 00:28:01.330 because I wanted to get more ideas 661 00:28:01.330 --> 00:28:02.367 about students' experience, 662 00:28:02.367 --> 00:28:05.324 and I wanted to give 'em some advice based on 663 00:28:05.324 --> 00:28:06.157 what I thought I was gonna hear. 664 00:28:06.157 --> 00:28:08.470 And so the first question I asked is was 665 00:28:08.470 --> 00:28:10.340 what did most of your teachers in high school 666 00:28:10.340 --> 00:28:13.300 do the class period the day before the test? 667 00:28:13.300 --> 00:28:17.330 So put in the chat box, what you think students said, 668 00:28:17.330 --> 00:28:19.720 'cause I was not at all, exactly, 669 00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:20.870 review, that's what they said, 670 00:28:20.870 --> 00:28:23.060 review, that's exactly what I was expecting. 671 00:28:23.060 --> 00:28:25.740 And so then my next question was, okay, 672 00:28:25.740 --> 00:28:28.813 so what did they do during the review? 673 00:28:30.004 --> 00:28:31.880 And so tell me what, okay, 674 00:28:31.880 --> 00:28:33.250 so Kristen said, review the material 675 00:28:33.250 --> 00:28:35.420 that would be on the test, okay. 676 00:28:35.420 --> 00:28:37.510 I'll take a couple of more responses 677 00:28:37.510 --> 00:28:41.650 and I will see if anybody repeat what they'd already said. 678 00:28:41.650 --> 00:28:45.010 Okay, I'll see if anybody I hit the highlights. 679 00:28:45.010 --> 00:28:47.550 This is so interesting because usually 680 00:28:47.550 --> 00:28:51.380 when I ask this question at institutions, 681 00:28:51.380 --> 00:28:52.530 and as you heard, I've spoken at, 682 00:28:52.530 --> 00:28:54.610 you know, about 500 so far, 683 00:28:54.610 --> 00:28:57.800 and usually there's at least one, hmm, there it is, 684 00:28:57.800 --> 00:28:59.530 I was gonna say, there's at least one person 685 00:28:59.530 --> 00:29:03.630 who gets exactly what they do. 686 00:29:03.630 --> 00:29:07.100 But this morning nobody said that, but Joanne says, 687 00:29:07.100 --> 00:29:09.190 they would almost give the test, 688 00:29:09.190 --> 00:29:10.980 and you're actually close, 689 00:29:10.980 --> 00:29:12.910 it's worse than that, Joanne. 690 00:29:12.910 --> 00:29:15.520 Students told me, which shocked me, 691 00:29:15.520 --> 00:29:16.353 they told me, well, 692 00:29:16.353 --> 00:29:18.827 they gave us the test questions 693 00:29:18.827 --> 00:29:19.950 and we went over the answers. 694 00:29:19.950 --> 00:29:22.580 Now I was shocked by that, put in the chat box, 695 00:29:22.580 --> 00:29:24.350 yes or no, if you knew that's 696 00:29:24.350 --> 00:29:27.220 what was happening in high schools. 697 00:29:27.220 --> 00:29:30.130 And when I asked that question, at most institutions, 698 00:29:30.130 --> 00:29:32.770 there will be people who say yes. 699 00:29:32.770 --> 00:29:34.668 Okay, yeah, 700 00:29:34.668 --> 00:29:36.850 so Mary Ellen knew, but I didn't know, 701 00:29:36.850 --> 00:29:39.208 'cause see, I thought they were gonna say, 702 00:29:39.208 --> 00:29:41.230 well, they reviewed the information 703 00:29:43.707 --> 00:29:45.230 and went over outlines or whatever. 704 00:29:45.230 --> 00:29:47.300 And I was all prepared to say yes, 705 00:29:47.300 --> 00:29:49.260 but we don't do that at the university, 706 00:29:49.260 --> 00:29:51.853 you have to do that yourself. 707 00:29:53.485 --> 00:29:54.746 But that's not what they said, 708 00:29:54.746 --> 00:29:55.579 when they told me what they did, 709 00:29:55.579 --> 00:29:56.483 I said, oh, okay, 710 00:29:57.700 --> 00:29:58.550 well, and so then I made up a third question. 711 00:29:58.550 --> 00:29:59.460 I said, okay, 712 00:29:59.460 --> 00:30:04.460 well if you'd never gone to class, 713 00:30:04.968 --> 00:30:08.103 just the day before the test, 714 00:30:08.103 --> 00:30:09.542 and you went to class that day, 715 00:30:09.542 --> 00:30:12.822 and you paid really close attention that day, 716 00:30:12.822 --> 00:30:15.250 what's the lowest grade you would have made? 717 00:30:15.250 --> 00:30:17.940 Oh, okay, actually I gotta respond to this, 718 00:30:17.940 --> 00:30:19.881 yeah, Jim is saddened by this. 719 00:30:19.881 --> 00:30:20.714 And Jim says, yes, 720 00:30:20.714 --> 00:30:23.190 I was the evil school board member who railed against this. 721 00:30:23.190 --> 00:30:25.240 Yeah, and I'm glad you put that in Joanne, 722 00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:28.470 because I always like to say, it's not teacher's fault. 723 00:30:28.470 --> 00:30:31.680 Teachers have been put in this untenable situation 724 00:30:31.680 --> 00:30:35.410 where their livelihood, I'm gonna say, 725 00:30:35.410 --> 00:30:37.490 whether or not their school is gonna be taken over 726 00:30:37.490 --> 00:30:40.950 by some external force is dependent upon the scores 727 00:30:40.950 --> 00:30:43.770 that their student make on these standardized tests, 728 00:30:43.770 --> 00:30:45.200 and I'll call them evil. 729 00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:47.670 And so a teacher told me once that, 730 00:30:47.670 --> 00:30:50.230 because there's so much riding 731 00:30:50.230 --> 00:30:52.323 on how students perform on these tests, 732 00:30:53.922 --> 00:30:55.140 that many of them think that if they go over the test 733 00:30:55.140 --> 00:30:56.970 and give 'em the answers the students will do well. 734 00:30:56.970 --> 00:30:59.853 But of course we know that that really doesn't happen. 735 00:31:00.725 --> 00:31:02.730 And so when yeah, because of funding, 736 00:31:02.730 --> 00:31:05.009 all kinds of things, and so yep, 737 00:31:05.009 --> 00:31:07.273 we want you to make up a review sheet, 738 00:31:08.184 --> 00:31:10.070 then we're gonna talk about that, so, nope, 739 00:31:10.070 --> 00:31:11.870 'cause I have some advice about that 740 00:31:13.304 --> 00:31:14.430 that I think satisfies students, 741 00:31:14.430 --> 00:31:15.920 even though you are not gonna make up 742 00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:17.910 a review sheet for them. 743 00:31:17.910 --> 00:31:20.030 And so I asked them, 744 00:31:20.030 --> 00:31:22.024 well, if you hadn't gone to a class a single day, 745 00:31:22.024 --> 00:31:24.263 except just the day before the test, 746 00:31:24.263 --> 00:31:25.759 and you went to the class that day, 747 00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:26.820 and you paid really close attention, 748 00:31:26.820 --> 00:31:28.690 what's the lowest score you would've gotten 749 00:31:28.690 --> 00:31:30.450 on the test that day? 750 00:31:30.450 --> 00:31:33.146 And put in the chat box what you think the lowest score 751 00:31:33.146 --> 00:31:35.170 they said they would've gotten 752 00:31:35.170 --> 00:31:39.710 if they skipped every single class except the one? 753 00:31:39.710 --> 00:31:41.860 Okay, so I'm seeing B's, 754 00:31:41.860 --> 00:31:43.240 I'm seeing 50, 75. 755 00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:46.300 It was B, there were a few students who said A, 756 00:31:46.300 --> 00:31:50.010 a few students said C, nobody said less than a C. 757 00:31:50.010 --> 00:31:51.880 Most of them said B. 758 00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:55.180 And so that helped me understand why so many times 759 00:31:55.180 --> 00:31:59.240 our students didn't do anything until, you know, 760 00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:01.210 before the first test, because they thought, 761 00:32:01.210 --> 00:32:03.330 okay, well I'm gonna get the review, 762 00:32:03.330 --> 00:32:06.120 or at the very least, I'm gonna get a review sheet. 763 00:32:06.120 --> 00:32:08.150 And somebody already mentioned that students ask 764 00:32:08.150 --> 00:32:09.313 for a review sheet. 765 00:32:10.845 --> 00:32:13.360 And so I don't advise giving review sheets, 766 00:32:13.360 --> 00:32:16.110 but what I advise is having students make their 767 00:32:16.110 --> 00:32:19.910 own review sheets, because review sheets are very helpful. 768 00:32:19.910 --> 00:32:23.070 And so we can show students how to make a review sheet 769 00:32:23.070 --> 00:32:26.020 and tell them that they should make their own review sheet, 770 00:32:26.020 --> 00:32:28.230 and you could have them share review sheets 771 00:32:28.230 --> 00:32:30.193 in small groups or whatever. 772 00:32:32.486 --> 00:32:33.319 But this is very important. 773 00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:34.622 Okay, Judy says, 774 00:32:34.622 --> 00:32:36.560 is this attention economy, I guess I'm not surprised. 775 00:32:36.560 --> 00:32:38.110 Yeah, but you know, 776 00:32:38.110 --> 00:32:40.700 the good news is that even though students 777 00:32:40.700 --> 00:32:43.630 have had these experiences before they get to us, 778 00:32:43.630 --> 00:32:46.847 we can make a difference here. 779 00:32:46.847 --> 00:32:47.680 And that was surprising to me, 780 00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:50.770 I did not have any idea that I could take a student 781 00:32:50.770 --> 00:32:53.110 who learned almost nothing in high school, 782 00:32:53.110 --> 00:32:54.630 teach them these strategies, 783 00:32:54.630 --> 00:32:57.720 and let them know that it starts now. 784 00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:01.168 It doesn't matter if you never had chemistry, 785 00:33:01.168 --> 00:33:02.950 it doesn't matter if you've always had test anxiety, 786 00:33:02.950 --> 00:33:05.680 it doesn't matter if you didn't learn anything in math, 787 00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:07.600 I'm gonna teach you the material, 788 00:33:07.600 --> 00:33:10.120 but also the strategies that you need 789 00:33:10.120 --> 00:33:12.220 in order to be successful. 790 00:33:12.220 --> 00:33:14.499 So basically what we're saying, 791 00:33:14.499 --> 00:33:15.690 that we as faculty have to help students make 792 00:33:15.690 --> 00:33:18.260 that transition from whatever they're doing now 793 00:33:18.260 --> 00:33:21.080 that's not lead leading to the learning and grades 794 00:33:21.080 --> 00:33:23.530 they're seeking, to a productive behavior 795 00:33:23.530 --> 00:33:25.203 that's gonna lead to that. 796 00:33:26.339 --> 00:33:28.900 And so what I wanna do is share with you 797 00:33:28.900 --> 00:33:31.440 some very powerful strategies, 798 00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:36.440 but by way of students who have used those strategies, 799 00:33:37.120 --> 00:33:39.650 I'm pretty sure I hit the sound. 800 00:33:39.650 --> 00:33:41.910 So Holly, if you can't hear anything, 801 00:33:41.910 --> 00:33:44.550 then unmute your Mike and tell me you can't. 802 00:33:44.550 --> 00:33:47.462 But Dana was a student in physics, 803 00:33:47.462 --> 00:33:49.550 she was about to drop out of physics when she made the 54. 804 00:33:49.550 --> 00:33:53.685 And she was an A student from high school. 805 00:33:53.685 --> 00:33:54.518 She was at LSU on 806 00:33:54.518 --> 00:33:57.660 a very prestigious American Physical Society Scholarship, 807 00:33:57.660 --> 00:33:58.590 'cause she'd always wanted to be 808 00:33:58.590 --> 00:34:00.670 a medical physicist since 10th grade, 809 00:34:00.670 --> 00:34:02.870 'cause her mom worked in the MD Anderson Cancer Center 810 00:34:02.870 --> 00:34:04.430 in Houston, she's from Houston, 811 00:34:04.430 --> 00:34:06.410 and she talked with the medical physicist there, 812 00:34:06.410 --> 00:34:08.450 and that's what she wanted to do. 813 00:34:08.450 --> 00:34:11.110 But when she made the 80s, she was alarmed, 814 00:34:11.110 --> 00:34:13.764 because she'd never made anything less than A's 815 00:34:13.764 --> 00:34:15.524 in physics, in high school. 816 00:34:15.524 --> 00:34:16.766 And then when she made the 54, 817 00:34:16.766 --> 00:34:17.853 she was gonna be out of there. 818 00:34:18.700 --> 00:34:20.920 And so I met her at a change your major work shop. 819 00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:22.120 I wasn't teaching the workshop, 820 00:34:22.120 --> 00:34:24.160 I just went to see what they tell students 821 00:34:24.160 --> 00:34:25.870 at a change your major workshop. 822 00:34:25.870 --> 00:34:27.060 And I'll never forget this, 823 00:34:27.060 --> 00:34:28.910 the counselor who was teaching, the advisor, 824 00:34:28.910 --> 00:34:30.320 I should say, professional advisor, 825 00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:32.030 who was conducting the workshop. 826 00:34:32.030 --> 00:34:35.620 The first thing she did was she asked students 827 00:34:35.620 --> 00:34:38.210 to introduce themselves, tell what they were majoring in, 828 00:34:38.210 --> 00:34:39.620 what they wanted to change to. 829 00:34:39.620 --> 00:34:40.970 And Dana stood up and she said, 830 00:34:40.970 --> 00:34:43.570 well, I'm Dana, I was majoring in physics, 831 00:34:43.570 --> 00:34:45.660 but that's just not working out well. 832 00:34:45.660 --> 00:34:48.960 And the advisor immediately said, oh yes, 833 00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:51.950 I understand because physics is hard. 834 00:34:51.950 --> 00:34:53.390 And she said, just like that, 835 00:34:53.390 --> 00:34:55.940 she said, we'll find you something that you can do. 836 00:34:57.384 --> 00:34:59.270 And so I took note of that, 837 00:34:59.270 --> 00:35:02.070 and as Dana was leaving the room, 838 00:35:02.070 --> 00:35:03.750 I met her at the door and I said, Dana, 839 00:35:03.750 --> 00:35:05.870 do you have about an hour to talk with me in the office? 840 00:35:05.870 --> 00:35:08.330 I said, I'm gonna talk to you 841 00:35:08.330 --> 00:35:09.600 about some learning strategies. 842 00:35:09.600 --> 00:35:10.473 And I said, look, 843 00:35:11.328 --> 00:35:13.240 I'm not gonna try to talk you out of leaving physics 844 00:35:13.240 --> 00:35:15.420 because if you really wanna do something else, 845 00:35:15.420 --> 00:35:17.490 that is absolutely fine with me. 846 00:35:17.490 --> 00:35:19.530 But I want you to know you are leaving physics, 847 00:35:19.530 --> 00:35:21.330 not because you can't do it, 848 00:35:21.330 --> 00:35:23.860 but because you chosen to do something else. 849 00:35:23.860 --> 00:35:25.960 And so she came to my office, 850 00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:29.550 we talked for about an hour and these were her grades after, 851 00:35:29.550 --> 00:35:33.067 she made an A in that physics course 4.0 that semester. 852 00:35:33.067 --> 00:35:36.700 And you will hear from her in her own voice what she did. 853 00:35:36.700 --> 00:35:38.640 But before we had the discussion, 854 00:35:38.640 --> 00:35:40.580 she was memorizing formulas, 855 00:35:40.580 --> 00:35:43.310 and then she was using online homework programs. 856 00:35:43.310 --> 00:35:45.101 And when she told me that, I said, Dana, 857 00:35:45.101 --> 00:35:47.313 that's cheating, you're cheating. 858 00:35:48.503 --> 00:35:49.336 She said, oh no, Dr. McGuire, 859 00:35:49.336 --> 00:35:50.790 she said, I would never cheat, 860 00:35:50.790 --> 00:35:52.920 she said, I'm just using those to get 861 00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:55.660 a hint about how to start the problems. 862 00:35:55.660 --> 00:35:57.262 And I said, yeah, 863 00:35:57.262 --> 00:35:58.150 but when you get to the test, 864 00:35:58.150 --> 00:36:01.280 do they give you a hint about how to start the problems? 865 00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:05.865 And so she realized that that's what was derailing her. 866 00:36:05.865 --> 00:36:06.910 So then she started solving problems, 867 00:36:06.910 --> 00:36:08.970 not using any external aids. 868 00:36:08.970 --> 00:36:13.420 And so I am going to allow you to hear Dana, 869 00:36:13.420 --> 00:36:15.223 let me turn this all the way up, 870 00:36:16.663 --> 00:36:18.130 and I'm going to, when I hit play, 871 00:36:18.130 --> 00:36:20.130 you may or may not be able to hear her, 872 00:36:20.130 --> 00:36:22.390 with Teams, it seems that some people can hear her 873 00:36:22.390 --> 00:36:24.310 if I hit play, but you may have 874 00:36:24.310 --> 00:36:25.620 to hit the play button yourself. 875 00:36:25.620 --> 00:36:27.760 So I'm gonna tell you when I hit start, 876 00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:30.540 if you don't hear anything within like a couple of seconds, 877 00:36:30.540 --> 00:36:34.660 then hit the start on your slide so that you can hear her, 878 00:36:34.660 --> 00:36:35.500 what she's saying. 879 00:36:35.500 --> 00:36:38.293 So here is Dana now, she's just started. 880 00:36:57.230 --> 00:36:59.560 Okay, I'm gonna stop it because Veronica 881 00:36:59.560 --> 00:37:02.990 says I don't see or hear anything. 882 00:37:02.990 --> 00:37:04.970 Okay, so everybody should be seeing the slide 883 00:37:04.970 --> 00:37:06.810 that has Dana's picture in the middle. 884 00:37:06.810 --> 00:37:08.980 Are you seeing that? 885 00:37:08.980 --> 00:37:10.525 Okay, yeah, 886 00:37:10.525 --> 00:37:13.320 so you gotta click the button on your screen. 887 00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:17.600 There's no presentation. There's no presentation? 888 00:37:17.600 --> 00:37:20.580 That's very interesting. Oh, it says, 889 00:37:20.580 --> 00:37:23.723 reload to display, maybe it's me. 890 00:37:25.383 --> 00:37:26.507 Hmm. 891 00:37:26.507 --> 00:37:28.069 Okay, is anybody else, 892 00:37:28.069 --> 00:37:29.760 give me a yes or no if you're seeing the slide 893 00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:30.700 with Dana's picture? 894 00:37:30.700 --> 00:37:31.533 Okay, yeah, 895 00:37:32.411 --> 00:37:33.244 so I think, yeah, 896 00:37:33.244 --> 00:37:34.393 you've gotta do. 897 00:37:35.964 --> 00:37:37.943 I was able to push the play button in. 898 00:37:37.943 --> 00:37:38.776 Okay, so most people are seeing, 899 00:37:38.776 --> 00:37:40.133 yeah, I'm getting hands up. 900 00:37:41.130 --> 00:37:44.223 Yeah, okay, seeing and hearing fine. 901 00:37:45.330 --> 00:37:47.030 Yeah, so Holly, 902 00:37:47.030 --> 00:37:49.370 if you can tell the people who are not seeing 903 00:37:49.370 --> 00:37:50.360 what they need to do, 904 00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:52.710 'cause I don't know how to tell 'em what to do. 905 00:37:55.220 --> 00:37:57.230 It may be their connection, Saundra, 906 00:37:57.230 --> 00:37:59.910 so if you're still not seeing the slide, 907 00:37:59.910 --> 00:38:02.890 you might wanna leave our meeting and come back 908 00:38:02.890 --> 00:38:04.393 or restart Teams. 909 00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:07.044 Okay, yeah, 910 00:38:07.044 --> 00:38:08.060 and I'm gonna start her again, and again, 911 00:38:08.060 --> 00:38:09.822 if you don't hear anything, 912 00:38:09.822 --> 00:38:11.850 then hit the start button on your screen, 913 00:38:11.850 --> 00:38:13.860 'cause I do hear people saying 914 00:38:13.860 --> 00:38:15.910 that they had to hit the volume button, 915 00:38:15.910 --> 00:38:18.630 so hit that to hear her, but here she goes. 916 00:40:48.988 --> 00:40:50.320 Okay, and Veronica, 917 00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:53.160 I'm sorry, you're still not seeing any thing, 918 00:40:53.160 --> 00:40:55.051 I don't know what's going on. 919 00:40:55.051 --> 00:40:57.670 But Susanmarie said that she is going to transcribe it, 920 00:40:57.670 --> 00:40:58.900 so you'll hear Dana's story. 921 00:40:58.900 --> 00:41:01.570 But I think everybody else was able to hear it. 922 00:41:01.570 --> 00:41:04.470 Now Dana did get a couple of things, 923 00:41:04.470 --> 00:41:05.960 well, you might get the wrong impression, 924 00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:08.000 she said that we worked together the whole semester, 925 00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:13.000 which is true, but I only spent one session talking 926 00:41:13.740 --> 00:41:16.270 with her about learning strategies, I became her mentor, 927 00:41:16.270 --> 00:41:18.270 and so we did work together, 928 00:41:18.270 --> 00:41:19.910 but not with the learning strategies. 929 00:41:19.910 --> 00:41:22.540 When she got the information and she started implementing 930 00:41:22.540 --> 00:41:25.000 the strategies, then she was on her way. 931 00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:26.560 And that's what I find, 932 00:41:26.560 --> 00:41:28.840 it happens with these strategies for 933 00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:31.290 the types of students that you have at UVM, 934 00:41:31.290 --> 00:41:32.900 they haven't thought about this, 935 00:41:32.900 --> 00:41:35.500 it's a whole new paradigm for them. 936 00:41:35.500 --> 00:41:38.360 And when they understand how it works, 937 00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:41.320 then they implement it and it makes a lot of difference. 938 00:41:41.320 --> 00:41:44.250 Now the other thing she said was I'm phenomenal. 939 00:41:44.250 --> 00:41:47.740 I'm not phenomenal, it's the strategies that are phenomenal. 940 00:41:47.740 --> 00:41:48.590 She said, you know, 941 00:41:48.590 --> 00:41:52.090 she has the golden ticket and the strategies really are 942 00:41:52.090 --> 00:41:54.050 what consider the golden ticket 943 00:41:54.050 --> 00:41:56.100 because it just makes so much difference. 944 00:41:56.100 --> 00:42:00.880 Now the strategy that I find is so important 945 00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:03.310 for STEM students, especially, 946 00:42:03.310 --> 00:42:06.720 is the problem with what they're doing 947 00:42:06.720 --> 00:42:08.720 is they're doing the homework all wrong. 948 00:42:08.720 --> 00:42:10.080 Put in the chat box for me, please, 949 00:42:10.080 --> 00:42:12.270 if you've ever had a student 950 00:42:12.270 --> 00:42:15.400 who does really well on the homework, 951 00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:18.703 but then they don't do well on the test, have you seen that? 952 00:42:21.479 --> 00:42:23.069 Okay, yeah, 953 00:42:23.069 --> 00:42:24.544 oh, and the session is being recorded, Veronica, 954 00:42:24.544 --> 00:42:26.359 so if you can't see or hear anything, 955 00:42:26.359 --> 00:42:29.680 then you probably could spend better, you know, 956 00:42:29.680 --> 00:42:32.640 your time and then watch the recording, I don't know. 957 00:42:32.640 --> 00:42:34.940 I just feel bad that you can't see yet, 958 00:42:36.404 --> 00:42:37.902 but yeah, all the time. 959 00:42:37.902 --> 00:42:39.160 And so the reason is because 960 00:42:39.160 --> 00:42:40.750 they're doing the homework the wrong way. 961 00:42:40.750 --> 00:42:42.500 And so I'm gonna ask you to think back 962 00:42:42.500 --> 00:42:45.240 to the last time you were doing any homework at all. 963 00:42:45.240 --> 00:42:47.940 And if you ever did this, put yes in the chat box, 964 00:42:47.940 --> 00:42:49.853 if you never did it, put no. 965 00:42:51.259 --> 00:42:55.010 Do you ever remember reading a problem that you had to work 966 00:42:55.010 --> 00:42:57.510 or reading a question that you had to answer, 967 00:42:57.510 --> 00:42:59.830 and then flipping back in the chapter 968 00:42:59.830 --> 00:43:03.150 to find an example of the problem you had to work 969 00:43:03.150 --> 00:43:06.140 or a discussion of the question you had to answer, 970 00:43:06.140 --> 00:43:07.693 did you ever do that? 971 00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:10.550 And I'm seeing some yeses already. 972 00:43:10.550 --> 00:43:12.000 Yeah, and so I ask students this 973 00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:13.860 and they all say absolutely, yes. 974 00:43:13.860 --> 00:43:16.400 And I tell 'em, unfortunately I did that too, 975 00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:18.880 because I didn't have a me telling me that 976 00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:19.840 that wasn't gonna work. 977 00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:22.550 And so they all did it, and so I said, 978 00:43:22.550 --> 00:43:24.830 now when we did this, I include myself, 979 00:43:24.830 --> 00:43:26.502 'cause I tell 'em I did it, 980 00:43:26.502 --> 00:43:27.380 I said, when we did this, 981 00:43:27.380 --> 00:43:29.680 were we working the problem? 982 00:43:29.680 --> 00:43:32.410 Was our brain working the problem? 983 00:43:32.410 --> 00:43:34.100 And I'll ask you, when we did that, 984 00:43:34.100 --> 00:43:35.933 was our brain working the problem? 985 00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:39.100 Give me a yes or no? 986 00:43:39.100 --> 00:43:40.250 Yeah, and students say, 987 00:43:41.084 --> 00:43:42.082 no, absolutely. 988 00:43:42.082 --> 00:43:43.243 And then I'll say, 989 00:43:43.243 --> 00:43:44.076 well, what was working the problem? 990 00:43:44.076 --> 00:43:45.030 'Cause they'll tell me no, yeah, 991 00:43:45.030 --> 00:43:46.701 our brains weren't. 992 00:43:46.701 --> 00:43:48.420 So what was working the problem? 993 00:43:48.420 --> 00:43:50.600 Put that in the chat box for me, please. 994 00:43:50.600 --> 00:43:51.900 And students are, you know, 995 00:43:51.900 --> 00:43:54.143 they get it immediately. 996 00:43:56.120 --> 00:43:57.830 Exactly, the textbook, 997 00:43:57.830 --> 00:43:59.170 sometimes they'll say the textbook, 998 00:43:59.170 --> 00:44:00.540 sometimes they'll say the author, 999 00:44:00.540 --> 00:44:03.340 sometimes they'll say the example, but absolutely. 1000 00:44:03.340 --> 00:44:04.989 And I said, yeah, 1001 00:44:04.989 --> 00:44:06.950 and you're really, really smart people. 1002 00:44:06.950 --> 00:44:08.090 Although I may say that, 1003 00:44:08.090 --> 00:44:09.880 although I don't really believe in the concept 1004 00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:12.470 that some people are smart and some people aren't anymore. 1005 00:44:12.470 --> 00:44:14.240 But you know, I say you're really, 1006 00:44:14.240 --> 00:44:16.530 really smart people, I was very smart, 1007 00:44:16.530 --> 00:44:18.710 how many of you remember thinking when you looked 1008 00:44:18.710 --> 00:44:20.400 at the way the example was worked 1009 00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:22.840 or the question was answered thinking, 1010 00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:24.210 oh yeah, I got that, 1011 00:44:24.210 --> 00:44:25.321 oh yeah, I understand that? 1012 00:44:25.321 --> 00:44:27.860 And all the hands go up. 1013 00:44:27.860 --> 00:44:28.693 They said, yeah, 1014 00:44:28.693 --> 00:44:29.836 I thought the same thing, 1015 00:44:29.836 --> 00:44:31.657 but when we got to the test or quiz, 1016 00:44:31.657 --> 00:44:33.910 if they changed anything at all around a little bit, 1017 00:44:33.910 --> 00:44:34.860 then what happened? 1018 00:44:35.894 --> 00:44:37.200 And then sometimes they'll shake their head. 1019 00:44:37.200 --> 00:44:39.550 One young man said, oops, I don't got that. 1020 00:44:39.550 --> 00:44:43.610 And so the homework strategy that so many of our students 1021 00:44:43.610 --> 00:44:45.716 have said makes a difference, 1022 00:44:45.716 --> 00:44:46.710 and this is actually the one thing, 1023 00:44:46.710 --> 00:44:48.000 most of this stuff we're talking about 1024 00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:49.960 I did not know when I was at Cornell, 1025 00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:52.540 but this is the one thing that I did learn. 1026 00:44:52.540 --> 00:44:55.760 The number one reason that my students in general chemistry, 1027 00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:59.740 organic chemistry were making C's, D's, F's, 1028 00:45:00.700 --> 00:45:02.600 or okay, hi Linda, go Big Red. 1029 00:45:02.600 --> 00:45:04.940 Yeah, on the exams that they could 1030 00:45:04.940 --> 00:45:07.390 have been making A's and B's was because of that. 1031 00:45:07.390 --> 00:45:10.580 And when they stopped that one practice and implemented 1032 00:45:10.580 --> 00:45:12.780 what we were talking now, they turned it around. 1033 00:45:12.780 --> 00:45:14.590 So you gotta study the material first 1034 00:45:14.590 --> 00:45:17.220 before you look at the first problem or question, 1035 00:45:17.220 --> 00:45:20.440 and then when you get to an example, 1036 00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:22.430 just read the problem statement. 1037 00:45:22.430 --> 00:45:24.520 And if you've studied the information, 1038 00:45:24.520 --> 00:45:27.680 then you will be able to work the problem, 1039 00:45:27.680 --> 00:45:29.761 at least you'll be able to start it. 1040 00:45:29.761 --> 00:45:30.990 And so when you get to the example, 1041 00:45:30.990 --> 00:45:33.793 work the problem until you get to an answer. 1042 00:45:37.540 --> 00:45:38.980 And in fact, even if you don't know exactly what to do next, 1043 00:45:38.980 --> 00:45:42.430 just power your way through until you get to an answer, 1044 00:45:42.430 --> 00:45:44.070 pretend it's a multiple choice question, 1045 00:45:44.070 --> 00:45:46.254 you gotta come up with an answer. 1046 00:45:46.254 --> 00:45:47.087 And then when you get the answer, 1047 00:45:47.087 --> 00:45:49.280 compare that answer with the answer in the book. 1048 00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:50.830 If you got the same answer, 1049 00:45:50.830 --> 00:45:52.950 then you can look at what author did. 1050 00:45:52.950 --> 00:45:55.400 If you didn't get the same answer, don't look yet, 1051 00:45:55.400 --> 00:45:58.280 try to figure out where your mistake was. 1052 00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:01.150 And I asked students at this point in the process, 1053 00:46:01.150 --> 00:46:04.510 do you think making a mistake is good or bad? 1054 00:46:04.510 --> 00:46:07.610 And so I want only the people who haven't read the book 1055 00:46:07.610 --> 00:46:09.610 or who were not in the first session 1056 00:46:09.610 --> 00:46:11.430 or at any other presentations, 1057 00:46:11.430 --> 00:46:12.820 'cause you'll know the answer, 1058 00:46:12.820 --> 00:46:14.250 but only other people say, 1059 00:46:14.250 --> 00:46:16.960 do students say that making a mistake 1060 00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:19.453 at this point is good or bad? 1061 00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:23.243 What do you think students say about making 1062 00:46:23.243 --> 00:46:24.853 a mistake at this point? 1063 00:46:26.990 --> 00:46:30.010 Okay, and so I'm seeing mostly bads, 1064 00:46:30.010 --> 00:46:33.310 and I saw two goods early on, 1065 00:46:33.310 --> 00:46:35.197 and it was, I think, 1066 00:46:35.197 --> 00:46:36.357 Mary Ellen and Janet. 1067 00:46:38.022 --> 00:46:40.820 So Mary Ellen and Janet, please unmute your mic. 1068 00:46:40.820 --> 00:46:45.240 Had you read the book or seen this at all before? 1069 00:46:45.240 --> 00:46:47.540 No, this is Janet. No? 1070 00:46:47.540 --> 00:46:50.197 I haven't. And I'm Mary Ellen, 1071 00:46:51.577 --> 00:46:53.260 and I haven't. But I figured when you 1072 00:46:53.260 --> 00:46:54.816 doing homework. Mary Ellen, 1073 00:46:54.816 --> 00:46:57.120 hold on one second and Janet's gonna finish. 1074 00:46:57.120 --> 00:46:58.158 Go ahead, Janet. 1075 00:46:58.158 --> 00:46:59.483 Yeah, when you're doing home work, 1076 00:46:59.483 --> 00:47:00.800 that's the time to make the mistake, 1077 00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:04.342 instead of on the exam or the quiz. 1078 00:47:04.342 --> 00:47:05.601 Yeah, and the question was, 1079 00:47:05.601 --> 00:47:07.490 'cause this happened this morning and somebody put good, 1080 00:47:07.490 --> 00:47:08.990 but he said, I put good 1081 00:47:08.990 --> 00:47:11.363 before I realized that you were asking, 1082 00:47:13.029 --> 00:47:14.370 would students say making a mistake at this point 1083 00:47:14.370 --> 00:47:15.493 is good or bad. 1084 00:47:16.921 --> 00:47:20.320 And so would you that students would say making a mistake 1085 00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:23.163 is good or would students say making a mistake is bad? 1086 00:47:26.205 --> 00:47:29.030 I guess it depends on the age, 1087 00:47:29.030 --> 00:47:31.010 but I guess most of them would say bad, 1088 00:47:31.010 --> 00:47:34.221 because they never wanna make a mistake, right? 1089 00:47:34.221 --> 00:47:36.003 Okay, and thank you, 1090 00:47:36.003 --> 00:47:36.836 and so that's Janet. 1091 00:47:36.836 --> 00:47:38.550 So Mary Ellen, what were you gonna say? 1092 00:47:39.742 --> 00:47:40.880 I was gonna say that, you know, 1093 00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:44.540 according to like Carol Dweck's work and Joe Bowler's work, 1094 00:47:44.540 --> 00:47:46.640 mistakes are when you learn. 1095 00:47:46.640 --> 00:47:47.513 Well, yes, 1096 00:47:48.650 --> 00:47:51.663 and so do you think students would say good or bad? 1097 00:47:52.550 --> 00:47:55.020 My students would've said good 1098 00:47:55.020 --> 00:47:56.540 Excellent. Because I taught them 1099 00:47:56.540 --> 00:48:00.140 that the only way you learn is when you make mistakes. 1100 00:48:00.140 --> 00:48:03.290 Fantastic, and what do you teach, Susanmarie? 1101 00:48:03.290 --> 00:48:06.290 I was a math teacher for about 20 years. 1102 00:48:06.290 --> 00:48:07.420 That's right, okay, 1103 00:48:07.420 --> 00:48:11.560 yes, oh, but you're my CTL director, right? 1104 00:48:11.560 --> 00:48:14.684 Well, I work in the education department 1105 00:48:14.684 --> 00:48:15.682 now at UVM. Oh, okay, 1106 00:48:15.682 --> 00:48:16.802 gotcha, okay, 1107 00:48:16.802 --> 00:48:19.930 yeah, and so I wanted to do that 1108 00:48:19.930 --> 00:48:23.269 because most faculty say bad and very few faculty say good, 1109 00:48:23.269 --> 00:48:25.693 I always like to know why faculty said good. 1110 00:48:26.780 --> 00:48:29.060 But students always say good. 1111 00:48:29.060 --> 00:48:31.970 Most faculty groups always say bad 1112 00:48:33.076 --> 00:48:34.220 and students say good and I'll tell 'em, 1113 00:48:34.220 --> 00:48:35.865 yep, you're right. 1114 00:48:35.865 --> 00:48:37.722 And I said, but don't get me wrong, 1115 00:48:37.722 --> 00:48:38.721 I'm not saying it's bad 1116 00:48:38.721 --> 00:48:39.554 if you don't make a mistake at this point, 1117 00:48:39.554 --> 00:48:42.390 it's fantastic if you don't make a mistake at this point. 1118 00:48:42.390 --> 00:48:44.940 But why is it good if you make a mistake at this point? 1119 00:48:44.940 --> 00:48:47.130 And they say exactly what we've just heard, 1120 00:48:47.130 --> 00:48:48.070 they'll say, well, 1121 00:48:48.070 --> 00:48:50.180 you learn from your mistakes is the number one answer 1122 00:48:50.180 --> 00:48:51.193 I get from students. 1123 00:48:52.061 --> 00:48:53.160 And then the second thing they say is, well, 1124 00:48:53.160 --> 00:48:56.950 now I know where my brain has a tendency to go wrong. 1125 00:48:56.950 --> 00:49:00.130 And then the third thing they'll say is, it's not the test, 1126 00:49:00.130 --> 00:49:03.000 and you can correct it before you get to the test, 1127 00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:04.920 which then gives me the opportunity 1128 00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:06.833 to ask this question to students. 1129 00:49:07.758 --> 00:49:09.120 And I'll ask students, 1130 00:49:09.120 --> 00:49:10.770 have you ever gotten a test or a quiz back, 1131 00:49:10.770 --> 00:49:12.880 and you looked at it and you saw your mistakes and you said, 1132 00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:15.240 ah, I made so many simple mistakes, 1133 00:49:15.240 --> 00:49:16.790 I would've done so much better, 1134 00:49:18.026 --> 00:49:18.859 but I just made simple mistakes. 1135 00:49:20.358 --> 00:49:21.863 Have you ever heard a student say that? 1136 00:49:21.863 --> 00:49:22.696 You know, oh, 1137 00:49:22.696 --> 00:49:25.303 I just made so many careless mistakes on this test. 1138 00:49:27.090 --> 00:49:28.330 Oh, I have new messages, 1139 00:49:28.330 --> 00:49:32.125 that's right, 'cause I scrolled up and you are answering me. 1140 00:49:32.125 --> 00:49:33.690 Okay, yes, I see the yeses. 1141 00:49:33.690 --> 00:49:36.210 Yeah, and so that's what students think, 1142 00:49:36.210 --> 00:49:37.330 and I tell 'em yeah, you know, 1143 00:49:37.330 --> 00:49:39.410 I used to think the same thing, that I made simple mistakes. 1144 00:49:39.410 --> 00:49:41.580 But I say now my philosophy 1145 00:49:41.580 --> 00:49:45.060 is that there's no such thing as just simple mistakes. 1146 00:49:45.060 --> 00:49:48.950 Said, mistakes only look simple in retrospect. 1147 00:49:48.950 --> 00:49:51.550 Once you know what the right thing is, 1148 00:49:51.550 --> 00:49:53.550 your mistake looks so simple, 1149 00:49:53.550 --> 00:49:56.360 but mistakes are things that have to be made. 1150 00:49:56.360 --> 00:49:58.510 And I'll ask students either you're gonna make 'em 1151 00:49:58.510 --> 00:50:01.920 during this process or where are you going to make them? 1152 00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:03.160 And put in the chat box 1153 00:50:03.160 --> 00:50:06.611 what you think they tell me when I say mistakes, 1154 00:50:06.611 --> 00:50:08.760 they have to be made. 1155 00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:09.990 And someone said, you know, 1156 00:50:09.990 --> 00:50:11.450 that they tell students that, you know, 1157 00:50:11.450 --> 00:50:13.400 mistakes are good. 1158 00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:16.760 There's a term fail forward, 'cause you learn from those. 1159 00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:18.223 Yeah, on the exam, 1160 00:50:19.567 --> 00:50:20.400 that students will say on the exam. 1161 00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:21.640 And so the good news is, 1162 00:50:21.640 --> 00:50:24.260 I'm not telling them, you better do this 1163 00:50:24.260 --> 00:50:26.100 or you're gonna screw up on the test. 1164 00:50:26.100 --> 00:50:29.465 They're telling me that if they don't do this, 1165 00:50:29.465 --> 00:50:30.846 they're gonna make the mistake on the test. 1166 00:50:30.846 --> 00:50:32.147 And this is, I've learned, 1167 00:50:32.147 --> 00:50:33.923 a crucial part of this approach. 1168 00:50:34.805 --> 00:50:38.110 The less we tell students and the more we ask them questions 1169 00:50:38.110 --> 00:50:40.330 so that they give us the information 1170 00:50:40.330 --> 00:50:41.890 that we would've told them, 1171 00:50:41.890 --> 00:50:43.770 the more likely that that's gonna stick 1172 00:50:43.770 --> 00:50:45.360 and they're gonna do something with it. 1173 00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:46.970 So check to see if it's correct, if it's not, 1174 00:50:46.970 --> 00:50:48.670 figure out where your mistake was, 1175 00:50:49.544 --> 00:50:50.377 and that's just the examples. 1176 00:50:50.377 --> 00:50:52.430 When they get to the actual homework problems, 1177 00:50:52.430 --> 00:50:54.440 they tell 'em, treat it as if it's a test or a quiz, 1178 00:50:54.440 --> 00:50:56.820 and you heard Dana say she was doing that, 1179 00:50:56.820 --> 00:50:59.070 work two or three problems, try to speed it up, 1180 00:50:59.070 --> 00:51:00.570 work it a little bit more quickly, 1181 00:51:00.570 --> 00:51:02.425 because that's what you're gonna have to do 1182 00:51:02.425 --> 00:51:05.380 on a test or a quiz, because many students lose points 1183 00:51:05.380 --> 00:51:06.863 because they don't finish. 1184 00:51:08.161 --> 00:51:09.270 And they don't finish because 1185 00:51:09.270 --> 00:51:11.540 they are not trying to go faster, 1186 00:51:11.540 --> 00:51:16.540 they're slowly and carefully plotting through everything 1187 00:51:16.580 --> 00:51:17.830 like they did on homework, 1188 00:51:17.830 --> 00:51:19.780 'cause there are no time constraints on homework. 1189 00:51:19.780 --> 00:51:22.110 But they can practice speeding it up 1190 00:51:22.110 --> 00:51:23.923 and it makes a big difference. 1191 00:51:25.005 --> 00:51:28.077 And so I also like to share with my STEM students 1192 00:51:28.077 --> 00:51:30.280 and really in all students, I ask them, 1193 00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:32.400 is this resource the culprit? 1194 00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:34.470 And Chegg, and when I'm talking to students, 1195 00:51:34.470 --> 00:51:36.129 I ask them, I say, 1196 00:51:36.129 --> 00:51:36.962 I'm not asking about you, 1197 00:51:36.962 --> 00:51:39.970 I'm just asking about a friend, about your friends, 1198 00:51:39.970 --> 00:51:43.600 how many of you have friends who use this Chegg? 1199 00:51:43.600 --> 00:51:46.200 And so sometimes they'll do a laughing thing 1200 00:51:46.200 --> 00:51:47.920 and they'll put, yes. 1201 00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:49.770 And then, you know, 1202 00:51:49.770 --> 00:51:53.210 'cause Chegg has the solutions for everything in the book, 1203 00:51:53.210 --> 00:51:55.890 and 94% of Chegg customers get better grades, 1204 00:51:55.890 --> 00:51:57.843 well I guess so 'cause they're acing all the homeworks, 1205 00:51:58.940 --> 00:52:00.460 but then I hope students understand 1206 00:52:00.460 --> 00:52:04.570 that they can learn this information, they don't need Chegg, 1207 00:52:04.570 --> 00:52:06.260 and if they take this approach, 1208 00:52:06.260 --> 00:52:08.604 then they'll be able to learn it. 1209 00:52:08.604 --> 00:52:10.230 And the other thing found is that students 1210 00:52:10.230 --> 00:52:13.340 really appreciate motive. 1211 00:52:13.340 --> 00:52:15.730 And when I tell them that I'm teaching you this 1212 00:52:15.730 --> 00:52:19.670 because when you get out into the real world, you're STEM, 1213 00:52:19.670 --> 00:52:21.566 so you probably have a lot of students 1214 00:52:21.566 --> 00:52:22.680 who are interested in graduate school, 1215 00:52:22.680 --> 00:52:25.690 or health professions, or the things like that. 1216 00:52:25.690 --> 00:52:29.210 When you get out on the job, in professional school, 1217 00:52:29.210 --> 00:52:31.388 you have to know something. 1218 00:52:31.388 --> 00:52:34.650 And so Chegg is not going to cut it 1219 00:52:34.650 --> 00:52:37.310 and you can learn this, so you don't need Chegg, 1220 00:52:37.310 --> 00:52:38.823 but that is a culprit. 1221 00:52:39.690 --> 00:52:44.690 Now the next strategy is a reading strategy that I taught 1222 00:52:44.910 --> 00:52:48.563 this young man who had made a 47, 52 on the first two tests. 1223 00:52:49.482 --> 00:52:51.630 And then talked with him 30 minutes by phone 1224 00:52:51.630 --> 00:52:53.760 the night before the third test, 82, 1225 00:52:53.760 --> 00:52:56.020 then 86 on the next one. 1226 00:52:56.020 --> 00:52:58.200 So I took him out to lunch and I said, Travis, 1227 00:52:58.200 --> 00:53:00.123 what are you doing? 1228 00:53:00.123 --> 00:53:01.980 And he said, I'm just doing this stuff you told me to do. 1229 00:53:01.980 --> 00:53:04.040 And with Travis, he was having trouble, 1230 00:53:04.040 --> 00:53:05.640 he was doing the reading, he said, 1231 00:53:05.640 --> 00:53:09.110 but he wasn't retaining what he had read. 1232 00:53:09.110 --> 00:53:10.510 And when he got to the test, 1233 00:53:11.469 --> 00:53:13.967 he would recognize the terminology, 1234 00:53:13.967 --> 00:53:16.510 but he didn't actually remember what he'd read. 1235 00:53:16.510 --> 00:53:19.470 And so the strategy that I taught him, 1236 00:53:19.470 --> 00:53:23.000 this is kind of a summary of it, it's called SQ5R. 1237 00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:25.470 But the first thing is to preview the reading 1238 00:53:25.470 --> 00:53:28.130 before you start to read so you can get a big picture, 1239 00:53:28.130 --> 00:53:30.380 and then come up with questions that you want 1240 00:53:31.540 --> 00:53:33.061 the reading to answer for you. 1241 00:53:33.061 --> 00:53:36.590 So for example, if I were reading a chapter in chemistry 1242 00:53:36.590 --> 00:53:39.580 on acid and bases, I would see strong acid, 1243 00:53:39.580 --> 00:53:41.750 weak acid, strong base, weak base, 1244 00:53:41.750 --> 00:53:44.214 either in bold face printer or italicized words. 1245 00:53:44.214 --> 00:53:45.714 And so then I would say, well, 1246 00:53:46.603 --> 00:53:48.287 I wonder what this thing is gonna say is the difference 1247 00:53:48.287 --> 00:53:49.820 between strong acids and weak acids, 1248 00:53:49.820 --> 00:53:51.970 does one burn you more than another? 1249 00:53:51.970 --> 00:53:55.490 So I've created my own interest in the reading, 1250 00:53:55.490 --> 00:53:57.848 and then when you start to read, 1251 00:53:57.848 --> 00:53:59.270 just read the first paragraph, stop, 1252 00:53:59.270 --> 00:54:01.480 put that information in your own words, 1253 00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:03.470 and then read the second paragraph, stop, 1254 00:54:03.470 --> 00:54:05.140 put that information in your own words, 1255 00:54:05.140 --> 00:54:07.560 trying to fold in what was in the paragraph before, 1256 00:54:07.560 --> 00:54:10.250 and read subsequent paragraphs the same way. 1257 00:54:10.250 --> 00:54:11.690 And when I teach this to students, 1258 00:54:11.690 --> 00:54:15.070 I always stop at this point and I say, 1259 00:54:15.070 --> 00:54:17.650 does it sound like, and I'm gonna ask you this question, 1260 00:54:17.650 --> 00:54:20.880 does it sound like if I gotta do all of that, 1261 00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:24.250 it's gonna take a long time to finish the reading? 1262 00:54:24.250 --> 00:54:25.950 So put yes or no in the chat box, 1263 00:54:25.950 --> 00:54:29.100 does it sound like if I use this, 1264 00:54:29.100 --> 00:54:32.093 compared to what I was doing before to do my reading, 1265 00:54:32.940 --> 00:54:33.980 it's gonna take a long time? 1266 00:54:33.980 --> 00:54:36.040 Yeah, and all the students say yes. 1267 00:54:36.040 --> 00:54:37.770 And so I tell them that, 1268 00:54:37.770 --> 00:54:39.380 yeah, it sounds like it, 1269 00:54:39.380 --> 00:54:41.053 but students love this. 1270 00:54:41.942 --> 00:54:44.160 I've had a lot of students who come back and they say, 1271 00:54:44.160 --> 00:54:46.890 Dr. McGuire, I love that reading strategy, 1272 00:54:46.890 --> 00:54:49.420 I'm getting so much more out of my reading now. 1273 00:54:49.420 --> 00:54:51.730 And then I say, oh, that's fantastic, 1274 00:54:51.730 --> 00:54:56.730 is it taking you longer to do your reading now than before? 1275 00:54:56.910 --> 00:54:58.260 And to a person, they say, 1276 00:54:58.260 --> 00:55:01.270 well, no, actually I finished the reading sooner, 1277 00:55:01.270 --> 00:55:04.971 doing it this way than what I did before. 1278 00:55:04.971 --> 00:55:05.804 And so you might not get this, 1279 00:55:05.804 --> 00:55:08.620 'cause I didn't set it up as complete as I do for students, 1280 00:55:08.620 --> 00:55:10.000 but I'm gonna ask you, 1281 00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:13.640 why do you think it would take less time to finish 1282 00:55:13.640 --> 00:55:16.390 the reading going through all of these steps 1283 00:55:16.390 --> 00:55:18.600 than what they were doing before? 1284 00:55:18.600 --> 00:55:19.500 What do you think? 1285 00:55:23.110 --> 00:55:26.770 And again, you might not get it because I didn't set it up. 1286 00:55:26.770 --> 00:55:27.650 Okay, yes, 1287 00:55:27.650 --> 00:55:29.424 you got it, yep, 1288 00:55:29.424 --> 00:55:30.257 those are the top two, 1289 00:55:30.257 --> 00:55:32.330 students say you don't have to reread, 1290 00:55:32.330 --> 00:55:35.700 and now you are interested and your focusing, yes. 1291 00:55:35.700 --> 00:55:38.500 Because with the old way you would read a little bit, 1292 00:55:38.500 --> 00:55:40.500 but your mind would wander and you'd have to go back. 1293 00:55:40.500 --> 00:55:41.680 Read, go back, read, go back, 1294 00:55:41.680 --> 00:55:42.513 read, go back. 1295 00:55:43.425 --> 00:55:44.424 With the new way, 1296 00:55:44.424 --> 00:55:46.140 you are moving more slowly through the reading, 1297 00:55:46.140 --> 00:55:48.000 but you get to the end point sooner, 1298 00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:50.130 'cause you're not doing all that back and forth. 1299 00:55:50.130 --> 00:55:53.870 And the other neat thing about this is you actually speed up 1300 00:55:53.870 --> 00:55:54.860 as you go along. 1301 00:55:54.860 --> 00:55:58.270 Because when you get to the 11th paragraph, 1302 00:55:58.270 --> 00:55:59.890 you can imagine how much faster 1303 00:55:59.890 --> 00:56:01.966 you're gonna be able to read it 1304 00:56:01.966 --> 00:56:03.080 if you've understood everything 1305 00:56:03.080 --> 00:56:05.705 that was in the first 10 paragraphs. 1306 00:56:05.705 --> 00:56:07.690 And so it makes a huge difference. 1307 00:56:07.690 --> 00:56:10.860 And so this is the summary of it, do that survey, 1308 00:56:10.860 --> 00:56:14.010 come up with questions, and read the paragraph at a time 1309 00:56:14.010 --> 00:56:15.560 where you are recording, I'm sorry, 1310 00:56:15.560 --> 00:56:17.143 you're reciting to yourself. 1311 00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:20.780 You can teach 'em how to record or annotate in the margin. 1312 00:56:20.780 --> 00:56:22.490 And then the next R is for review, 1313 00:56:22.490 --> 00:56:24.290 when you get to the end of a section, 1314 00:56:24.290 --> 00:56:26.390 you can review what just happened in that section. 1315 00:56:26.390 --> 00:56:28.270 And then the last R is for reflect, 1316 00:56:28.270 --> 00:56:30.113 are there any other views? 1317 00:56:31.268 --> 00:56:34.230 Is there anything that got your attention? 1318 00:56:34.230 --> 00:56:38.630 For STEM courses, maybe did the author do the problem 1319 00:56:38.630 --> 00:56:41.684 a different way than you would've done it? 1320 00:56:41.684 --> 00:56:43.130 Because we all know that there's lots of different ways 1321 00:56:43.130 --> 00:56:45.380 that you can do problems in STEM. 1322 00:56:45.380 --> 00:56:49.640 And if that was the case, then what's the relationship 1323 00:56:49.640 --> 00:56:52.870 between the way you did it and the way the author did it, 1324 00:56:52.870 --> 00:56:55.220 or if you were gonna write the author 1325 00:56:55.220 --> 00:56:57.720 and ask them to rewrite a certain section, 1326 00:56:57.720 --> 00:57:00.250 because it wasn't as clear to you as you would like, 1327 00:57:00.250 --> 00:57:01.590 what section would that be? 1328 00:57:01.590 --> 00:57:05.270 So just having them reflect on the information, 1329 00:57:05.270 --> 00:57:06.733 it's called active reading, 1330 00:57:07.821 --> 00:57:10.900 and that has made such a difference with so many students. 1331 00:57:10.900 --> 00:57:12.990 And so now what I'm gonna do 1332 00:57:12.990 --> 00:57:16.421 is I'm going to put a passage on the screen, 1333 00:57:16.421 --> 00:57:17.823 and I'm going to give you a few minutes to read it. 1334 00:57:17.823 --> 00:57:21.000 Then I'm gonna take it off the screen and ask a question. 1335 00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:23.820 And the question will only be for people 1336 00:57:23.820 --> 00:57:26.810 who were not in the first session this morning. 1337 00:57:26.810 --> 00:57:28.923 So let's read this. 1338 00:58:00.170 --> 00:58:01.820 Okay, you may not have finished the whole thing, 1339 00:58:01.820 --> 00:58:04.199 but I will take it off the screen. 1340 00:58:04.199 --> 00:58:05.500 And so for people who are not there this morning, 1341 00:58:05.500 --> 00:58:07.481 give me a yes or no in the chat box, 1342 00:58:07.481 --> 00:58:10.410 could you do this, if I asked you to unmute your mic, 1343 00:58:10.410 --> 00:58:14.170 and summarize the information in that slide to the group, 1344 00:58:14.170 --> 00:58:16.423 would you be able to do that, do you think? 1345 00:58:19.750 --> 00:58:22.620 Now look for a couple of responses, okay, 1346 00:58:22.620 --> 00:58:24.010 I'm seeing some nos. 1347 00:58:24.010 --> 00:58:26.780 Yeah, I certainly would not have. 1348 00:58:26.780 --> 00:58:28.163 Okay, but let me ask this, 1349 00:58:29.195 --> 00:58:30.770 if you had known before you started to read 1350 00:58:30.770 --> 00:58:33.800 that this passage was about flying a kite, 1351 00:58:33.800 --> 00:58:38.800 now I want you to reread that and let me know if it makes 1352 00:58:40.170 --> 00:58:42.420 a lot more sense to you now 1353 00:58:42.420 --> 00:58:44.803 that you know it's about flying a kite? 1354 00:58:51.070 --> 00:58:52.500 Okay, and I'm seeing some yeses, 1355 00:58:52.500 --> 00:58:54.440 and I've kinda asked Alexandria, 1356 00:58:54.440 --> 00:58:56.890 because you said you could have given a general idea. 1357 00:58:56.890 --> 00:58:58.370 Alexandria, did you know that 1358 00:58:58.370 --> 00:59:00.570 it was about flying a kite when you read it? 1359 00:59:02.477 --> 00:59:03.890 No, I had idea. Okay. 1360 00:59:03.890 --> 00:59:07.410 But I'm also one of those people blessed 1361 00:59:09.632 --> 00:59:11.510 or cursed with, I did a lot of speech in theater 1362 00:59:11.510 --> 00:59:14.030 as a younger person. Got you. 1363 00:59:14.030 --> 00:59:15.297 And then, so. Right. 1364 00:59:16.370 --> 00:59:18.280 And so you could take in the text 1365 00:59:18.280 --> 00:59:20.870 and then kind of process it and okay, 1366 00:59:20.870 --> 00:59:22.380 yes. Yes, the ability 1367 00:59:22.380 --> 00:59:26.970 to take in process and then semi memorize large blocks 1368 00:59:26.970 --> 00:59:29.210 of text relatively quickly is. 1369 00:59:29.210 --> 00:59:30.280 Got you. 1370 00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:32.330 Okay, and everybody else says that now 1371 00:59:32.330 --> 00:59:34.370 it makes a big difference that you know what it is, 1372 00:59:34.370 --> 00:59:35.880 because now you have a context 1373 00:59:35.880 --> 00:59:38.770 and you can actually visualize these things happening. 1374 00:59:38.770 --> 00:59:41.760 And so I like to give students examples proof 1375 00:59:41.760 --> 00:59:45.130 that what I'm recommending will work. 1376 00:59:45.130 --> 00:59:46.850 And there's another example in the book, 1377 00:59:46.850 --> 00:59:48.680 but once they see that, 1378 00:59:48.680 --> 00:59:50.970 just knowing what the thing is about, 1379 00:59:50.970 --> 00:59:53.160 makes such a huge difference in understanding, 1380 00:59:53.160 --> 00:59:56.330 then that will give them the motivation to maybe spend 1381 00:59:56.330 --> 00:59:58.900 that five minutes or so doing that overview 1382 00:59:58.900 --> 01:00:00.360 before they start to read. 1383 01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:01.950 And here's the reference for that, 1384 01:00:01.950 --> 01:00:04.390 and there's a link to that. 1385 01:00:04.390 --> 01:00:06.380 Oh, and you're gonna get this whole PowerPoint presentation, 1386 01:00:06.380 --> 01:00:08.780 I dunno if I said that, but you're gonna get that. 1387 01:00:08.780 --> 01:00:10.850 So you can pick and choose any slides 1388 01:00:10.850 --> 01:00:15.440 you want to share with your students, and so you'll have it. 1389 01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:19.550 Now, this is an email I got from a high school teacher 1390 01:00:19.550 --> 01:00:22.970 about his son, who was the student who might end up 1391 01:00:22.970 --> 01:00:26.070 at a UVM, he's in honors classes 1392 01:00:26.070 --> 01:00:30.220 at a very selective high school, he has a GPA of 4.2. 1393 01:00:30.220 --> 01:00:32.790 I was talking about reading strategies in a workshop 1394 01:00:32.790 --> 01:00:35.580 that his dad was in and he was in the room with his dad. 1395 01:00:35.580 --> 01:00:37.990 So his dad had his headset on, 1396 01:00:37.990 --> 01:00:39.900 but when I started talking about the reading strategy, 1397 01:00:39.900 --> 01:00:41.210 he disconnected his headset 1398 01:00:41.210 --> 01:00:43.253 so his son could hear the strategy. 1399 01:00:44.182 --> 01:00:46.010 And so three weeks ago, his son had gotten a 72 1400 01:00:46.010 --> 01:00:49.130 on his test for honors biology and was devastated, 1401 01:00:49.130 --> 01:00:52.060 I'd learned, and so he had the next test coming up 1402 01:00:52.060 --> 01:00:54.730 on Monday, the workshop was Saturday. 1403 01:00:54.730 --> 01:00:57.950 So evidently he was studying for his test that Sunday night 1404 01:00:59.199 --> 01:01:02.642 and Darien talked to his dad, I think he was, 1405 01:01:02.642 --> 01:01:03.475 you know, very concerned, 1406 01:01:03.475 --> 01:01:05.820 and so his dad told him to just follow the strategies 1407 01:01:05.820 --> 01:01:07.530 on his test that was coming up the next day 1408 01:01:07.530 --> 01:01:09.140 that he had heard me talk about. 1409 01:01:09.140 --> 01:01:12.550 Well, it was 4:34, evidently Darien had gotten home, 1410 01:01:12.550 --> 01:01:14.230 and he gotten 86 on his test. 1411 01:01:14.230 --> 01:01:17.460 So his dad dashed off this email to me, 1412 01:01:17.460 --> 01:01:19.820 he was so relieved and grateful for the advice. 1413 01:01:19.820 --> 01:01:22.360 And this is what happens to students 1414 01:01:22.360 --> 01:01:24.880 that when they don't think that 1415 01:01:24.880 --> 01:01:27.793 they don't know what to do to make it better, 1416 01:01:27.793 --> 01:01:28.626 and we give 'em strategies, 1417 01:01:28.626 --> 01:01:30.320 they use those strategies, they're successful, 1418 01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:32.580 and they are really, really grateful, 1419 01:01:32.580 --> 01:01:36.952 as you heard Dana was, and it just makes a big difference. 1420 01:01:36.952 --> 01:01:39.932 And this is a somebody who already had a PhD, 1421 01:01:39.932 --> 01:01:40.850 that was in the social sciences. 1422 01:01:40.850 --> 01:01:42.580 And he decided that he wanted 1423 01:01:42.580 --> 01:01:45.480 to teach himself calculus and physics. 1424 01:01:45.480 --> 01:01:47.720 And so he said, the methods that I outline, 1425 01:01:47.720 --> 01:01:49.310 especially active reading, 1426 01:01:49.310 --> 01:01:52.300 created a learning experience for him that's interactive, 1427 01:01:52.300 --> 01:01:55.050 even when you're studying the material alone. 1428 01:01:55.050 --> 01:01:56.020 And he said, you know, 1429 01:01:56.020 --> 01:01:58.590 when I met him, he was trying to learn calculus and physics, 1430 01:01:58.590 --> 01:01:59.970 and it was a struggle, but he said, 1431 01:01:59.970 --> 01:02:01.350 now it's progressing smoothly, 1432 01:02:01.350 --> 01:02:03.280 this process is the ultimate divide 1433 01:02:03.280 --> 01:02:05.150 and conquer approach to learning. 1434 01:02:05.150 --> 01:02:08.160 And he says, he hadn't mentioned it before, 1435 01:02:08.160 --> 01:02:10.750 but it makes the subjects way more interesting 1436 01:02:10.750 --> 01:02:14.153 and even intriguing, like being on a journey of discovery. 1437 01:02:15.246 --> 01:02:18.270 And so I think that students really do find 1438 01:02:18.270 --> 01:02:19.690 that this reading strategy allows them 1439 01:02:19.690 --> 01:02:21.890 to get so much more out of them. 1440 01:02:21.890 --> 01:02:24.420 Now, reflection questions, again, 1441 01:02:24.420 --> 01:02:27.730 are really key to developing students metacognitive skills. 1442 01:02:27.730 --> 01:02:30.543 And two of the ones that I ask, 1443 01:02:31.753 --> 01:02:34.110 and normally I will ask you to give me 1444 01:02:34.110 --> 01:02:37.000 your responses to that, but in the interest of time, 1445 01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:39.100 I'm gonna tell you the top three responses 1446 01:02:39.100 --> 01:02:41.120 I get from students, and you can, 1447 01:02:41.120 --> 01:02:43.460 you know, think if you were thinking one of those, 1448 01:02:43.460 --> 01:02:45.080 or if you were thinking something else, 1449 01:02:45.080 --> 01:02:47.200 then certainly put that in the chat box. 1450 01:02:47.200 --> 01:02:49.580 But the first question is, what's the difference, 1451 01:02:49.580 --> 01:02:51.450 if you think there's any difference at all, 1452 01:02:51.450 --> 01:02:53.770 between studying and learning. 1453 01:02:53.770 --> 01:02:56.740 And typically, students have not been asked this question, 1454 01:02:56.740 --> 01:02:59.290 but when we ask it, they think about, 1455 01:02:59.290 --> 01:03:01.560 and I have 'em do it as a think, pair, share. 1456 01:03:01.560 --> 01:03:02.800 So they get their own answer, 1457 01:03:02.800 --> 01:03:04.630 then they share it with a partner. 1458 01:03:04.630 --> 01:03:07.180 And the number one response I get is they'll say, 1459 01:03:07.180 --> 01:03:10.640 aah, studying is just memorizing information for a test 1460 01:03:11.838 --> 01:03:13.420 or a quiz, but learning is when I understand 1461 01:03:13.420 --> 01:03:17.460 that information, I can relate it to what I already know, 1462 01:03:17.460 --> 01:03:20.940 I can apply it to things that I haven't seen before. 1463 01:03:20.940 --> 01:03:23.740 And sometimes they'll say studying is short term, 1464 01:03:23.740 --> 01:03:26.170 learning is long terms. 1465 01:03:26.170 --> 01:03:28.000 Sometimes they'll say studying is tedious, 1466 01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:28.860 learning is fun. 1467 01:03:28.860 --> 01:03:31.210 But recently I've been getting more students, 1468 01:03:31.210 --> 01:03:33.220 I used to only get this from high school student, 1469 01:03:33.220 --> 01:03:35.820 but now I'm getting a lot more college students who'll say, 1470 01:03:35.820 --> 01:03:40.820 aah, studying is when I go over what I've already learned. 1471 01:03:41.190 --> 01:03:43.680 And the first time I heard that I was struck 1472 01:03:43.680 --> 01:03:45.910 by that response, it was a group of high school students. 1473 01:03:45.910 --> 01:03:48.690 And so I asked them, when did you learn it? 1474 01:03:48.690 --> 01:03:51.153 Since they said studying was going over, 1475 01:03:51.153 --> 01:03:52.209 what they already learned? 1476 01:03:52.209 --> 01:03:53.180 I asked, when did you learn it? 1477 01:03:53.180 --> 01:03:55.340 And put in the chat box, if you haven't read the book 1478 01:03:55.340 --> 01:03:57.090 or attended any of the other sessions, 1479 01:03:57.090 --> 01:03:58.450 when do you think the students 1480 01:03:58.450 --> 01:04:00.833 said they learned the information? 1481 01:04:02.030 --> 01:04:03.160 Because if they're studying, 1482 01:04:03.160 --> 01:04:05.750 they're going over what they already learned, 1483 01:04:05.750 --> 01:04:09.149 so they obviously think they've learned it at some, 1484 01:04:09.149 --> 01:04:10.252 exactly, Veronica. 1485 01:04:10.252 --> 01:04:11.953 in class when the teacher taught it. 1486 01:04:12.910 --> 01:04:14.931 And so then I realized that I had to help students 1487 01:04:14.931 --> 01:04:17.831 understand the difference between learning about something 1488 01:04:18.780 --> 01:04:19.630 and learning something, 1489 01:04:19.630 --> 01:04:22.720 in class you learn about a lot of things, 1490 01:04:22.720 --> 01:04:25.210 but you haven't really learned it to the extent 1491 01:04:25.210 --> 01:04:28.030 that you would be able to explain it to someone else, 1492 01:04:28.030 --> 01:04:30.570 you gotta do something with that information later on, 1493 01:04:30.570 --> 01:04:33.390 because without having that perspective, students, 1494 01:04:33.390 --> 01:04:35.320 and I tell 'em, you know, 1495 01:04:35.320 --> 01:04:36.920 unfortunately I'm guilty, 1496 01:04:36.920 --> 01:04:38.760 I would study the night before the test 1497 01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:41.630 because I too thought I had learned it in class 1498 01:04:42.482 --> 01:04:44.020 and I just need to go over it before the test. 1499 01:04:44.020 --> 01:04:46.690 And of course I couldn't start going over it too soon, 1500 01:04:46.690 --> 01:04:49.260 'cause I started going over it too soon, what would happen? 1501 01:04:49.260 --> 01:04:51.300 I'd forget it before the test. 1502 01:04:51.300 --> 01:04:53.670 And so then I helped them understand that, no, 1503 01:04:53.670 --> 01:04:56.300 when you learn it, it's not a matter of forgetting it 1504 01:04:56.300 --> 01:04:59.600 before the test, and you really haven't learned it in class, 1505 01:04:59.600 --> 01:05:01.453 you learn it by employing these strategies 1506 01:05:01.453 --> 01:05:03.461 that we're talking about. 1507 01:05:03.461 --> 01:05:05.360 And then the second question is for which task 1508 01:05:05.360 --> 01:05:08.450 would you work harder, if I told you you had to make an A 1509 01:05:08.450 --> 01:05:12.040 on the next test or if I told you that, okay, 1510 01:05:12.040 --> 01:05:13.140 in this particular class, 1511 01:05:13.140 --> 01:05:15.590 we're having the second test coming up next week, 1512 01:05:15.590 --> 01:05:17.900 and everybody in the class kept asking me 1513 01:05:19.041 --> 01:05:20.320 before the first test, can we have a review sheet? 1514 01:05:20.320 --> 01:05:21.600 Are you gonna give us a review sheet? 1515 01:05:21.600 --> 01:05:22.630 And I said, no, 1516 01:05:22.630 --> 01:05:26.320 we don't give review sheets at UVM, that was so high school. 1517 01:05:26.320 --> 01:05:27.893 So no, not gonna give a review. 1518 01:05:28.784 --> 01:05:30.820 And so I didn't give a review or a review sheet 1519 01:05:30.820 --> 01:05:33.720 and the class did horribly, the average was 65. 1520 01:05:33.720 --> 01:05:35.950 So I see now I'm gonna have to offer 1521 01:05:35.950 --> 01:05:38.240 a review before this upcoming test. 1522 01:05:38.240 --> 01:05:40.610 So I'm gonna offer a review the class period 1523 01:05:41.636 --> 01:05:44.490 before the test and you are gonna teach that review. 1524 01:05:44.490 --> 01:05:46.550 I'm gonna have you come up to the front of the class 1525 01:05:46.550 --> 01:05:48.480 with no notes or anything, 1526 01:05:48.480 --> 01:05:51.110 and you're going to go over all of the important concepts, 1527 01:05:51.110 --> 01:05:53.730 paying particular attention to the more difficult concepts 1528 01:05:53.730 --> 01:05:56.300 to make sure everybody is prepared for the test 1529 01:05:56.300 --> 01:05:59.960 the next day, would you work harder for A or B? 1530 01:05:59.960 --> 01:06:02.603 So put that in the chat box for me, please. 1531 01:06:09.210 --> 01:06:11.763 Okay, and that's what students say. 1532 01:06:11.763 --> 01:06:13.150 And I think it was Veronica who said that, you know, 1533 01:06:13.150 --> 01:06:16.435 when I do the example in class, they think they know it. 1534 01:06:16.435 --> 01:06:17.550 And actually I talked with students 1535 01:06:17.550 --> 01:06:19.170 about this when I was still teaching, 1536 01:06:19.170 --> 01:06:22.010 I'm retired, and I've forgotten to tell students recently, 1537 01:06:22.010 --> 01:06:23.930 so thank you for me reminding, 1538 01:06:23.930 --> 01:06:27.530 I told him that when we do problems on the board, 1539 01:06:27.530 --> 01:06:30.920 when we explain things, we're going to make it very, 1540 01:06:30.920 --> 01:06:33.880 very clear because we understand it very well, 1541 01:06:33.880 --> 01:06:36.730 we know how to explain it so that students understand it. 1542 01:06:38.120 --> 01:06:40.880 So it makes perfect sense that they're gonna understand 1543 01:06:40.880 --> 01:06:43.480 it totally after they've heard us explain it, 1544 01:06:43.480 --> 01:06:45.070 but that is doesn't mean they've learned it, 1545 01:06:45.070 --> 01:06:46.390 they've gotta do something with it. 1546 01:06:46.390 --> 01:06:48.660 So even though they think they totally understand 1547 01:06:48.660 --> 01:06:51.390 these examples, before they go through the chapter 1548 01:06:51.390 --> 01:06:53.360 and do the examples in the chapter 1549 01:06:53.360 --> 01:06:55.470 without looking at any of the solutions, 1550 01:06:55.470 --> 01:06:59.197 then they won't know that they have mastered this. 1551 01:06:59.197 --> 01:07:00.370 And so students say they would work harder 1552 01:07:00.370 --> 01:07:01.500 to teach the material. 1553 01:07:01.500 --> 01:07:03.600 When I ask why, they'll say things like, 1554 01:07:03.600 --> 01:07:06.310 oh, I gotta really know it if I have to teach it. 1555 01:07:06.310 --> 01:07:07.333 Sometimes they'll say, 1556 01:07:07.333 --> 01:07:09.550 I don't wanna look stupid in front of the class. 1557 01:07:09.550 --> 01:07:11.030 And then sometimes they'll say, 1558 01:07:11.030 --> 01:07:12.443 the more empathetic students say, well, 1559 01:07:12.443 --> 01:07:15.270 I wanna make sure everybody in the class knows 1560 01:07:15.270 --> 01:07:18.163 it well enough to do well on the test. 1561 01:07:19.137 --> 01:07:21.000 So that means that I'm going to make sure 1562 01:07:21.000 --> 01:07:23.500 that I can explain things more than one way. 1563 01:07:23.500 --> 01:07:25.980 I can use charts and diagrams for people 1564 01:07:25.980 --> 01:07:28.594 who like to see it visually. 1565 01:07:28.594 --> 01:07:30.320 And so they realize that they would work harder, 1566 01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:32.140 and when I ask them up to this point, 1567 01:07:32.140 --> 01:07:35.400 have they more often been in study mode or learn mode? 1568 01:07:35.400 --> 01:07:37.840 Of course, most of them say study mode, 1569 01:07:37.840 --> 01:07:42.210 and for A or B, what mode have they been in? 1570 01:07:42.210 --> 01:07:44.510 They've been in scenario A mode. 1571 01:07:44.510 --> 01:07:45.940 And at that point, and I say, 1572 01:07:45.940 --> 01:07:49.510 wonderful, I love it when you're doing everything wrong. 1573 01:07:49.510 --> 01:07:52.120 Because that means when you change what you're doing, 1574 01:07:52.120 --> 01:07:54.410 you are more likely to see a big improvement. 1575 01:07:54.410 --> 01:07:57.270 Because I never want students to feel bad 1576 01:07:57.270 --> 01:08:00.261 about what they've done in the past. 1577 01:08:00.261 --> 01:08:03.011 And sometimes I think we as STEM faculty, particularly, 1578 01:08:05.539 --> 01:08:07.730 if a student comes and they're not using the book 1579 01:08:07.730 --> 01:08:10.300 and we say, you're not using the book, 1580 01:08:10.300 --> 01:08:11.550 well, how'd you think you were gonna learn 1581 01:08:11.550 --> 01:08:12.573 not using the book? 1582 01:08:13.590 --> 01:08:16.223 Oh, I'll ask this question for the chat box. 1583 01:08:16.223 --> 01:08:20.680 Do you think that there are any faculty at UVM 1584 01:08:20.680 --> 01:08:22.710 who say to students, you don't really need 1585 01:08:22.710 --> 01:08:25.070 to buy the book for this course? 1586 01:08:25.070 --> 01:08:26.830 Give me a yes or no in the chat box, 1587 01:08:26.830 --> 01:08:31.100 if you think any of your colleagues tell students, 1588 01:08:31.100 --> 01:08:33.570 you don't really need to buy the book for this course? 1589 01:08:33.570 --> 01:08:36.480 Okay, yes, absolutely. 1590 01:08:36.480 --> 01:08:39.570 'Cause when I ask students and they all say yes, 1591 01:08:39.570 --> 01:08:41.580 and so there's an example in the book that I use 1592 01:08:41.580 --> 01:08:43.600 with students to show them why 1593 01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:45.590 this is not accurate information. 1594 01:08:45.590 --> 01:08:47.076 So I said, well, 1595 01:08:47.076 --> 01:08:48.080 that's not actually accurate, 1596 01:08:48.080 --> 01:08:49.080 but don't get mad at faculty for telling you that 1597 01:08:49.080 --> 01:08:51.140 because they think they're helping you out. 1598 01:08:51.140 --> 01:08:53.350 I'll ask students, what do you think those faculty members 1599 01:08:53.350 --> 01:08:55.080 think they're doing when they say you don't really 1600 01:08:55.080 --> 01:08:56.670 need to buy the book for this course? 1601 01:08:56.670 --> 01:08:59.050 And students will say, saving us money. 1602 01:08:59.050 --> 01:09:00.120 I said, absolutely, 1603 01:09:00.120 --> 01:09:01.260 that's what they think. 1604 01:09:01.260 --> 01:09:04.941 But what's more expensive, buying the book 1605 01:09:04.941 --> 01:09:06.350 for your anatomy and physiology course 1606 01:09:06.350 --> 01:09:07.930 or getting a C in the course 1607 01:09:07.930 --> 01:09:09.930 that's gonna keep you outta medical school? 1608 01:09:09.930 --> 01:09:11.460 I said, yeah, books are expensive, 1609 01:09:11.460 --> 01:09:14.520 but not having the book is way more expensive. 1610 01:09:14.520 --> 01:09:18.030 And so there are so many things that students don't know 1611 01:09:18.030 --> 01:09:19.930 that we think that they should know, 1612 01:09:19.930 --> 01:09:22.190 that they don't know because nobody's told 'em 1613 01:09:22.190 --> 01:09:24.620 what they really need to do, and worse than that, 1614 01:09:24.620 --> 01:09:27.260 people have told them things that were counterproductive 1615 01:09:27.260 --> 01:09:28.922 to their learning. 1616 01:09:28.922 --> 01:09:31.801 And so I want students to know, I know it's not your fault, 1617 01:09:31.801 --> 01:09:34.162 so I'm gonna teach you what you need to know. 1618 01:09:34.162 --> 01:09:37.450 And I also like to give examples of students 1619 01:09:37.450 --> 01:09:40.520 who've used the strategies and what the results have been. 1620 01:09:40.520 --> 01:09:42.560 This young man, Ty, 1621 01:09:42.560 --> 01:09:45.380 when he heard about the teaching strategy, 1622 01:09:45.380 --> 01:09:47.420 he said, ah, I have a betta fish in my room, 1623 01:09:47.420 --> 01:09:49.230 I'm gonna teach this stuff to him. 1624 01:09:49.230 --> 01:09:52.080 And he told me this September 17th, 1625 01:09:52.080 --> 01:09:56.630 and the within the next month, he showed me the impact 1626 01:09:56.630 --> 01:09:58.110 of teaching to his betta fish, 1627 01:09:58.110 --> 01:10:02.490 66 to 98, 62 to 83, B in both courses. 1628 01:10:02.490 --> 01:10:07.490 And so now I ask students to send me an email 1629 01:10:08.160 --> 01:10:11.420 telling me what they did, and excuse me 1630 01:10:11.420 --> 01:10:13.180 if I already said this to this group, 1631 01:10:13.180 --> 01:10:14.300 I talked to so many groups, 1632 01:10:14.300 --> 01:10:17.310 I'd forget what I've said and what I haven't, 1633 01:10:17.310 --> 01:10:18.610 well gimme a yes or no in the chat box, 1634 01:10:18.610 --> 01:10:22.750 did I already ask you to ask students to email you, 1635 01:10:22.750 --> 01:10:25.830 the students who've come to you having difficulty, 1636 01:10:25.830 --> 01:10:27.590 and then they increase their performance, 1637 01:10:27.590 --> 01:10:30.547 to send you an email to tell you exactly 1638 01:10:30.547 --> 01:10:32.780 what they did differently, did I ask you to do that already? 1639 01:10:32.780 --> 01:10:34.163 Ah, okay, thank you. 1640 01:10:35.249 --> 01:10:36.082 Yeah, I'm gonna ask you to do that. 1641 01:10:36.082 --> 01:10:37.580 This is something I wish I had done 1642 01:10:37.580 --> 01:10:39.320 at the beginning of my teaching career, 1643 01:10:39.320 --> 01:10:41.542 but I didn't think to do it. 1644 01:10:41.542 --> 01:10:43.590 And so when we ask students to tell us exactly 1645 01:10:43.590 --> 01:10:44.870 what they did differently, 1646 01:10:44.870 --> 01:10:47.220 then it will add to your repertoire of strategies 1647 01:10:47.220 --> 01:10:48.760 you can share with other students, 1648 01:10:48.760 --> 01:10:51.170 and keep the before and after scores 1649 01:10:52.542 --> 01:10:54.740 so that if a student comes in and says, oh well, 1650 01:10:54.740 --> 01:10:56.824 well, it is me, I made a 65 on the first test. 1651 01:10:56.824 --> 01:10:57.900 You can say, oh, 1652 01:10:57.900 --> 01:10:59.845 don't worry about that, 1653 01:10:59.845 --> 01:11:02.027 here's a student who made a 42 on the first test 1654 01:11:02.027 --> 01:11:03.540 and hundreds on everything else 1655 01:11:03.540 --> 01:11:05.600 when they changed what they were doing 1656 01:11:05.600 --> 01:11:08.730 to what we're gonna talk about in this session. 1657 01:11:08.730 --> 01:11:12.330 And when we do that, students are much more attentive 1658 01:11:12.330 --> 01:11:14.030 because now they know that somebody who was 1659 01:11:14.030 --> 01:11:17.830 in their very same situation was able to turn it around 1660 01:11:17.830 --> 01:11:19.130 based on the information 1661 01:11:19.130 --> 01:11:21.422 that we are going to share with them. 1662 01:11:21.422 --> 01:11:23.560 And so he started going to more of the SI sessions, 1663 01:11:23.560 --> 01:11:25.010 and now, as opposed to before, 1664 01:11:25.010 --> 01:11:26.990 when he wouldn't prepare for the sessions, 1665 01:11:26.990 --> 01:11:28.680 he would prepare for them, 1666 01:11:28.680 --> 01:11:31.766 see what he needed to really focus on. 1667 01:11:31.766 --> 01:11:33.160 And then afterwards he would go back to his room 1668 01:11:33.160 --> 01:11:35.200 and teach the materials to his betta fish. 1669 01:11:35.200 --> 01:11:37.250 Anything he couldn't explain, he'd study more. 1670 01:11:37.250 --> 01:11:40.650 And then he continued that cycle until he could explain 1671 01:11:40.650 --> 01:11:42.580 every thing in the notes. 1672 01:11:42.580 --> 01:11:44.830 And Janet says, I've asked the top 10 students 1673 01:11:44.830 --> 01:11:46.910 in a class how they were studying for immunology 1674 01:11:46.910 --> 01:11:49.300 to try to find the most useful methods. 1675 01:11:49.300 --> 01:11:51.220 Okay, I think that's a great strategy 1676 01:11:51.220 --> 01:11:53.780 to ask students how they study. 1677 01:11:53.780 --> 01:11:57.790 But I would ask everybody, because I have found that 1678 01:11:57.790 --> 01:12:00.570 some students who are in the bottom 10 1679 01:12:00.570 --> 01:12:04.080 are using strategies that the top 10 students 1680 01:12:04.080 --> 01:12:05.430 would not have thought of using. 1681 01:12:05.430 --> 01:12:08.270 So I think that's a great question to ask 1682 01:12:08.270 --> 01:12:10.050 and even have them, you know, 1683 01:12:10.050 --> 01:12:14.300 share strategies or even compile a list of strategies 1684 01:12:14.300 --> 01:12:15.720 for the whole class of, 1685 01:12:15.720 --> 01:12:17.650 these are things that people have done. 1686 01:12:17.650 --> 01:12:21.225 So I think that is an excellent strategy, 1687 01:12:21.225 --> 01:12:24.080 but I would just broaden that to include everybody. 1688 01:12:24.080 --> 01:12:26.710 Because what I find is when I present 1689 01:12:26.710 --> 01:12:28.600 this information to honor students, 1690 01:12:28.600 --> 01:12:31.830 there are a lot of things that they weren't using 1691 01:12:31.830 --> 01:12:35.100 that other students were, so great practice. 1692 01:12:35.100 --> 01:12:39.550 And so when I did this presentation to a group of students 1693 01:12:39.550 --> 01:12:42.830 at Howard University, before I got back on the plane, 1694 01:12:42.830 --> 01:12:46.110 a student had sent me a picture of the betta fish 1695 01:12:46.110 --> 01:12:47.750 that they had gone out and bought. 1696 01:12:47.750 --> 01:12:49.960 And so I tell students, no, 1697 01:12:49.960 --> 01:12:52.320 you don't have to go and buy your own pet. 1698 01:12:52.320 --> 01:12:55.190 If you have stuffed animals, if you have, 1699 01:12:55.190 --> 01:12:56.730 excuse me, empty chairs in your room, 1700 01:12:56.730 --> 01:13:01.285 if you have imaginary friends, if you have any audience, 1701 01:13:01.285 --> 01:13:03.305 either real or imagined that you can pretend 1702 01:13:03.305 --> 01:13:04.333 you're teaching this stuff to, 1703 01:13:05.183 --> 01:13:06.324 it makes all the difference in the world. 1704 01:13:06.324 --> 01:13:07.157 Because when you get stuck, 1705 01:13:07.157 --> 01:13:09.810 you know that's something that you need to go back 1706 01:13:09.810 --> 01:13:11.050 and look at again. 1707 01:13:11.050 --> 01:13:12.110 And then I thought about, 1708 01:13:12.110 --> 01:13:15.090 I wonder what happened this student, this fish rather, 1709 01:13:15.090 --> 01:13:16.510 'cause this was back in 2019. 1710 01:13:16.510 --> 01:13:18.340 So I texted this young lady 1711 01:13:18.340 --> 01:13:19.980 and I wanted to find out what happened to him, 1712 01:13:19.980 --> 01:13:22.720 did he end up being flushed down somebody's toilet? 1713 01:13:22.720 --> 01:13:25.750 But he is still, excuse me, alive and well, 1714 01:13:25.750 --> 01:13:27.709 and living with Makayla, 1715 01:13:27.709 --> 01:13:29.190 one of the students who was in the program. 1716 01:13:29.190 --> 01:13:33.100 So the other thing I like to do is show students, 1717 01:13:33.100 --> 01:13:35.920 give them an experience that shows them why I am 1718 01:13:35.920 --> 01:13:39.360 so confident that even if they made a 40 on the first test, 1719 01:13:39.360 --> 01:13:42.400 they could make 80 or higher on the next test. 1720 01:13:42.400 --> 01:13:44.400 And so I'm gonna have you do, 1721 01:13:44.400 --> 01:13:47.504 there's a different exercise in the book, 1722 01:13:47.504 --> 01:13:49.500 but the one we're gonna go through now involves, 1723 01:13:49.500 --> 01:13:51.300 I'm gonna show you a bunch of numbers, 1724 01:13:51.300 --> 01:13:53.300 all jumbled up on the next screen, 1725 01:13:53.300 --> 01:13:55.945 I want you to locate the number one, 1726 01:13:55.945 --> 01:13:58.070 and then after that locate the number two, 1727 01:13:58.070 --> 01:14:00.960 then locate the number three, etcetera, 1728 01:14:00.960 --> 01:14:02.143 find them in order. 1729 01:14:03.126 --> 01:14:04.720 And then when I take 'em off the screen, 1730 01:14:04.720 --> 01:14:08.580 just put in the chat box the last number you saw 1731 01:14:08.580 --> 01:14:10.990 when you were finding them in sequential order. 1732 01:14:10.990 --> 01:14:12.650 So let's start, 1733 01:14:12.650 --> 01:14:14.410 and only the people who haven't seen this before, 1734 01:14:14.410 --> 01:14:16.380 put that number in the chat box, please. 1735 01:14:16.380 --> 01:14:18.823 Okay, so let's start finding the numbers now. 1736 01:14:33.490 --> 01:14:34.640 And stop. 1737 01:14:34.640 --> 01:14:36.120 Okay, so put in the chat box 1738 01:14:37.194 --> 01:14:40.129 the last number you saw when you find, okay, 1739 01:14:40.129 --> 01:14:43.130 13, 7, 4, okay, 1740 01:14:43.130 --> 01:14:44.620 yeah, you're like most audiences, 1741 01:14:44.620 --> 01:14:47.320 usually it'll be very low double digits, 1742 01:14:47.320 --> 01:14:49.170 but mostly single digits. 1743 01:14:49.170 --> 01:14:51.170 Now I'm gonna have us look at it again 1744 01:14:51.170 --> 01:14:54.140 and with a vertical line, a horizontal line, 1745 01:14:54.140 --> 01:14:56.920 in the position of the number one indicated. 1746 01:14:56.920 --> 01:14:58.948 So now I'm gonna ask you, 1747 01:14:58.948 --> 01:15:02.240 what do you notice about how the other numbers are arranged? 1748 01:15:02.240 --> 01:15:04.040 What are they arranged according to? 1749 01:15:10.010 --> 01:15:13.300 Yes, clockwise by quadrant or by box, 1750 01:15:13.300 --> 01:15:14.283 absolutely. 1751 01:15:15.532 --> 01:15:17.360 And so, 'cause the one is here, 1752 01:15:17.360 --> 01:15:18.463 the two is there, the three is there, 1753 01:15:19.352 --> 01:15:21.430 the four, the five, the six, the seven, 1754 01:15:21.430 --> 01:15:23.485 the eight, the nine, etcetera. 1755 01:15:23.485 --> 01:15:26.388 And so now I'm gonna give you another 15 seconds 1756 01:15:26.388 --> 01:15:27.730 and ask you to put in the chat box, 1757 01:15:27.730 --> 01:15:29.243 how many you saw this time. 1758 01:15:30.105 --> 01:15:32.073 So let's start fighting the numbers now. 1759 01:15:48.190 --> 01:15:49.360 And stop. 1760 01:15:49.360 --> 01:15:52.123 Okay, so put the highest number you saw this time. 1761 01:15:55.618 --> 01:15:57.410 Okay, 19, 24, 18, 20. 1762 01:15:57.410 --> 01:15:58.890 Yeah, it seems like most people got 1763 01:15:58.890 --> 01:16:01.700 at least twice as many the second time as the first time. 1764 01:16:01.700 --> 01:16:03.940 So what that means, and I tell students, 1765 01:16:03.940 --> 01:16:06.700 so this is proof positive that you could have made a 50 1766 01:16:06.700 --> 01:16:09.770 on the first test and hundred next one, 1767 01:16:09.770 --> 01:16:12.833 'cause in the book, the example that I give there, 1768 01:16:15.180 --> 01:16:17.530 usually students get three times as many right. 1769 01:16:18.896 --> 01:16:20.463 But now there was a major difference between 1770 01:16:20.463 --> 01:16:21.580 the first attempt and the second attempt, 1771 01:16:21.580 --> 01:16:24.257 and what was that difference? 1772 01:16:24.257 --> 01:16:26.820 Why could we do so much better the second time around? 1773 01:16:26.820 --> 01:16:28.320 What was the major difference? 1774 01:16:29.660 --> 01:16:31.010 The second, yeah, 1775 01:16:31.010 --> 01:16:33.430 we had a strategy, we knew the pattern, 1776 01:16:33.430 --> 01:16:36.100 we knew that they were divided into quadrants, 1777 01:16:36.100 --> 01:16:40.320 and so we could focus on a smaller area of material, 1778 01:16:40.320 --> 01:16:42.330 which I think, and we had a guide, 1779 01:16:42.330 --> 01:16:44.440 and I never had used this before, 1780 01:16:44.440 --> 01:16:45.273 I never thought about this, 1781 01:16:45.273 --> 01:16:48.350 but now I'm thinking about that also could be evidence 1782 01:16:48.350 --> 01:16:49.760 for students that you need 1783 01:16:49.760 --> 01:16:52.610 to study small chunks of information at a time, 1784 01:16:52.610 --> 01:16:55.110 you can't let it all pile up and study it just 1785 01:16:55.110 --> 01:16:58.820 before the test, you gotta break up big tasks 1786 01:16:58.820 --> 01:17:00.900 into smaller chunks. 1787 01:17:00.900 --> 01:17:02.930 And so yeah, we knew how the information was organized. 1788 01:17:02.930 --> 01:17:04.330 Now "How People Learn", 1789 01:17:04.330 --> 01:17:06.540 when I first started learning about this, 1790 01:17:06.540 --> 01:17:08.784 when I got to LSU, 1791 01:17:08.784 --> 01:17:10.730 and I've been teaching for 30 years before I got to LSU, 1792 01:17:10.730 --> 01:17:12.380 didn't know any of this stuff. 1793 01:17:12.380 --> 01:17:13.810 When I found out it was possible, 1794 01:17:13.810 --> 01:17:15.970 I started reading everything I can get my hands on, 1795 01:17:15.970 --> 01:17:18.760 And "How People Learn" was one of the first things I read, 1796 01:17:18.760 --> 01:17:21.740 and it is excellent, it talks about metacognition, 1797 01:17:21.740 --> 01:17:24.480 metacognitive strategies in different areas. 1798 01:17:24.480 --> 01:17:27.767 And they came out with another volume in 2018, 1799 01:17:27.767 --> 01:17:28.917 "How People Learn II", 1800 01:17:30.377 --> 01:17:34.100 and it more focuses on the context of the learner, 1801 01:17:34.100 --> 01:17:35.970 the cultures that the learners come from, 1802 01:17:35.970 --> 01:17:38.870 so both of these are excellent resources. 1803 01:17:38.870 --> 01:17:41.360 Because we know a lot about learning now 1804 01:17:41.360 --> 01:17:43.540 that we did not know before. 1805 01:17:43.540 --> 01:17:44.940 We know that active learning 1806 01:17:46.162 --> 01:17:47.660 is much more lasting than passive learning. 1807 01:17:47.660 --> 01:17:51.061 Pat Cross says that passive learning is really an oxymoron, 1808 01:17:51.061 --> 01:17:53.611 your brain has got to be actively engaged to learn. 1809 01:17:54.673 --> 01:17:57.220 And metacognition is important. 1810 01:17:57.220 --> 01:17:59.320 Now we know that teaching students about metacognition, 1811 01:17:59.320 --> 01:18:03.120 teaching them the word metacognition is really important. 1812 01:18:03.120 --> 01:18:06.900 So they know what their role in the learning process is 1813 01:18:06.900 --> 01:18:09.140 and how to understand that role. 1814 01:18:09.140 --> 01:18:11.430 And we know that the level at which learning occurs 1815 01:18:11.430 --> 01:18:14.600 is important and that's where Bloom's Taxonomy comes in. 1816 01:18:14.600 --> 01:18:17.310 And this is the form of Bloom's that I like to share 1817 01:18:17.310 --> 01:18:21.260 with students where remembering is at the very bottom, 1818 01:18:21.260 --> 01:18:24.433 and just memorize, straight memorizing definitions, 1819 01:18:25.860 --> 01:18:27.800 go definitions and formulas. 1820 01:18:27.800 --> 01:18:29.820 Understanding, you can explain that information 1821 01:18:29.820 --> 01:18:32.670 in own terms to your 80 year old uncle 1822 01:18:32.670 --> 01:18:36.690 or your eight year old niece in words 1823 01:18:36.690 --> 01:18:38.860 that they understand, giving them examples 1824 01:18:38.860 --> 01:18:40.600 and analogies from their life. 1825 01:18:40.600 --> 01:18:42.760 If you're at applying, now you can use the information 1826 01:18:42.760 --> 01:18:45.550 to solve problems and answer questions 1827 01:18:45.550 --> 01:18:46.870 you've never seen before. 1828 01:18:46.870 --> 01:18:50.690 If you're at analyzing, you can now take any concept up, 1829 01:18:50.690 --> 01:18:52.100 breaking into simpler terms, 1830 01:18:52.100 --> 01:18:54.660 and explain how they fit together. 1831 01:18:54.660 --> 01:18:57.300 At evaluating, you could look at any two ideas, 1832 01:18:57.300 --> 01:18:58.540 two theories, two concepts, 1833 01:18:58.540 --> 01:19:00.510 and determine whether one is more likely 1834 01:19:00.510 --> 01:19:02.077 to be accurate than another. 1835 01:19:02.077 --> 01:19:04.920 And at creating, you can come up with your own ideas, 1836 01:19:04.920 --> 01:19:07.460 your own thoughts, your own ways of doing things. 1837 01:19:07.460 --> 01:19:12.140 And here's another form of it that has now some verbs 1838 01:19:12.140 --> 01:19:14.900 that are associated with each level. 1839 01:19:14.900 --> 01:19:17.560 And I find that when we teach students 1840 01:19:17.560 --> 01:19:20.033 about Bloom's Taxonomy, they get it. 1841 01:19:20.992 --> 01:19:23.370 And so here's the next poll question, 1842 01:19:23.370 --> 01:19:26.130 and I want you to tell me what you think students said, 1843 01:19:26.130 --> 01:19:30.250 how you think they answered, when I ask them to think back 1844 01:19:30.250 --> 01:19:31.970 to high school and tell me what was 1845 01:19:31.970 --> 01:19:35.160 the highest level that they had to operate in order 1846 01:19:36.031 --> 01:19:38.770 to make A's and B's in their high school classes. 1847 01:19:38.770 --> 01:19:42.423 What was the highest level you think they told me? 1848 01:19:48.350 --> 01:19:49.773 Okay, wow, 1849 01:19:49.773 --> 01:19:50.606 and we still got about 30 people, 1850 01:19:50.606 --> 01:19:52.060 so when we get to about 25, 1851 01:19:52.060 --> 01:19:54.103 I'll give you the five second warning. 1852 01:20:05.320 --> 01:20:07.173 Okay, we're there, five seconds. 1853 01:20:11.170 --> 01:20:13.032 Okay, and as you can see, 1854 01:20:13.032 --> 01:20:14.350 yeah, you're right on target, 1855 01:20:14.350 --> 01:20:17.283 76% of us said, remember and understanding, 1856 01:20:18.211 --> 01:20:21.260 then another 20% applying, and a few creating, 1857 01:20:21.260 --> 01:20:23.000 and there are a few students who say creating 1858 01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:25.560 if they've had AP courses or IB courses, 1859 01:20:25.560 --> 01:20:26.760 but you are right on, 1860 01:20:26.760 --> 01:20:28.960 most of them say remembering, understanding. 1861 01:20:30.031 --> 01:20:31.633 So then when I asked, well, 1862 01:20:32.910 --> 01:20:34.153 now that you know about Bloom's 1863 01:20:34.153 --> 01:20:35.990 and you've seen what we do here at UVM, 1864 01:20:35.990 --> 01:20:38.500 what's the lowest level you think you'll have to operate 1865 01:20:38.500 --> 01:20:40.700 to get the level of learning 1866 01:20:40.700 --> 01:20:45.700 to consistently get the grades that you made in high school? 1867 01:20:45.700 --> 01:20:48.130 'Cause you're not any less smart than you were then, 1868 01:20:48.130 --> 01:20:49.433 you're totally capable, 1869 01:20:50.674 --> 01:20:52.252 what's the lowest level you think you're going 1870 01:20:52.252 --> 01:20:54.200 to have to operate in order to do that? 1871 01:20:54.200 --> 01:20:57.073 And we'll see what you think students say about that. 1872 01:21:05.215 --> 01:21:08.632 Okay, I see so far applying has the edge. 1873 01:21:15.050 --> 01:21:17.540 Okay, I'll give you the five second warning. 1874 01:21:21.434 --> 01:21:22.267 Okay, and we'll stop. 1875 01:21:22.267 --> 01:21:24.100 Now the big bump here was at applying. 1876 01:21:24.100 --> 01:21:26.970 I think you're gonna be very pleasantly surprised 1877 01:21:26.970 --> 01:21:28.360 to see what students do. 1878 01:21:28.360 --> 01:21:31.940 And I do want you to ask this to students in your class, 1879 01:21:31.940 --> 01:21:34.970 and you could make it in, 1880 01:21:34.970 --> 01:21:36.530 what's the lowest level you think you need 1881 01:21:36.530 --> 01:21:39.963 to operate to make A's in this particular class, 1882 01:21:40.896 --> 01:21:44.380 to master the concepts in this class. 1883 01:21:44.380 --> 01:21:48.760 In this group, a big bump was at one for high school 1884 01:21:48.760 --> 01:21:51.320 and it was at evaluating for college. 1885 01:21:51.320 --> 01:21:53.251 This group, oh, okay, 1886 01:21:53.251 --> 01:21:54.590 only showed you one year data. 1887 01:21:54.590 --> 01:21:57.640 Yeah, so most groups will go from being clustered 1888 01:21:57.640 --> 01:21:58.790 around the ones, two, threes 1889 01:21:58.790 --> 01:22:00.400 to the 4, 5, 6. 1890 01:22:00.400 --> 01:22:05.400 But once I had a group that said mostly threes, you know, 1891 01:22:05.870 --> 01:22:07.420 kind of like you said, and I said, 1892 01:22:07.420 --> 01:22:09.132 okay, I see what you're saying, 1893 01:22:09.132 --> 01:22:12.310 but how many of you have either research papers 1894 01:22:12.310 --> 01:22:14.550 that you have to do for the end of the semester, 1895 01:22:14.550 --> 01:22:17.530 or research project, or a presentation, 1896 01:22:17.530 --> 01:22:18.750 or a research paper? 1897 01:22:18.750 --> 01:22:20.980 All the hands went up and then I asked them, okay, 1898 01:22:20.980 --> 01:22:24.100 if you've gotta do that, what level do you think that is? 1899 01:22:24.100 --> 01:22:27.040 And put in the chat box, what level is that, 1900 01:22:27.040 --> 01:22:30.110 if they've got to do research papers, 1901 01:22:30.110 --> 01:22:33.380 or research projects, or term papers, 1902 01:22:33.380 --> 01:22:35.363 what level would you say that is? 1903 01:22:39.134 --> 01:22:40.051 Okay, yeah. 1904 01:22:41.480 --> 01:22:43.620 Okay, so I see you saying fives and sixes. 1905 01:22:43.620 --> 01:22:46.077 Students say six and Jenny says, 1906 01:22:46.077 --> 01:22:47.600 creating with an exclamation! 1907 01:22:47.600 --> 01:22:50.360 I've actually only had students say six, 1908 01:22:50.360 --> 01:22:52.630 they don't even say five anymore, they say six. 1909 01:22:52.630 --> 01:22:54.193 And I said, yeah, 1910 01:22:54.193 --> 01:22:56.590 because the difference between an outstanding project 1911 01:22:56.590 --> 01:22:58.420 or paper and one that's mediocre 1912 01:22:58.420 --> 01:23:00.880 is the amount of creativity that goes into it. 1913 01:23:00.880 --> 01:23:03.210 And so then when they see that, aah, 1914 01:23:03.210 --> 01:23:04.710 I need to be at creating. 1915 01:23:04.710 --> 01:23:06.175 Then I said, okay, 1916 01:23:06.175 --> 01:23:08.900 so we have a tool for that, we call it the study cycle, 1917 01:23:08.900 --> 01:23:10.450 and there are different forms of it. 1918 01:23:10.450 --> 01:23:13.340 You'll see a different form of it that I did this morning, 1919 01:23:13.340 --> 01:23:16.173 but all the same steps, preview information, 1920 01:23:17.007 --> 01:23:18.011 before you go to class, 1921 01:23:18.011 --> 01:23:20.840 go to class, review as soon after class as possible. 1922 01:23:20.840 --> 01:23:23.189 And then it only takes about 10 minutes to do these, 1923 01:23:23.189 --> 01:23:26.910 but you have to do more than that. 1924 01:23:26.910 --> 01:23:29.560 And we call 'em focused study sessions, 1925 01:23:29.560 --> 01:23:31.790 we show them how to organize those. 1926 01:23:31.790 --> 01:23:36.674 And then they can check to see if they know 1927 01:23:36.674 --> 01:23:37.969 it well enough to teach it, 1928 01:23:37.969 --> 01:23:41.620 if they have time to do another focused study session, 1929 01:23:41.620 --> 01:23:43.400 etcetera, choose then. 1930 01:23:43.400 --> 01:23:46.197 And students love of this, 1931 01:23:46.197 --> 01:23:48.440 they love it because, especially STEM students, 1932 01:23:48.440 --> 01:23:50.473 you probably heard students say, well, 1933 01:23:50.473 --> 01:23:53.070 you know, I just really don't know how to study. 1934 01:23:53.070 --> 01:23:55.460 They tell us this all the time and they tell us 1935 01:23:57.046 --> 01:23:58.030 because I never had to study in high school 1936 01:23:58.030 --> 01:23:59.190 and nobody taught me, 1937 01:23:59.190 --> 01:24:02.880 and so they love this because this is a very structured way. 1938 01:24:02.880 --> 01:24:05.783 And our students call it that preview review thing. 1939 01:24:07.430 --> 01:24:09.660 Here's an email from a young lady who's now, 1940 01:24:09.660 --> 01:24:13.003 she's about to get her PhD probably in 2023 at Emory. 1941 01:24:14.046 --> 01:24:17.472 And this was when she graduated, she said she got an A+ 1942 01:24:17.472 --> 01:24:18.305 on three out of four of her finals, 1943 01:24:18.305 --> 01:24:19.690 using that method of studying. 1944 01:24:19.690 --> 01:24:21.640 It's important to use it every day before finals week, 1945 01:24:21.640 --> 01:24:24.300 but she said it really benefits students during finals week 1946 01:24:24.300 --> 01:24:26.480 because it's a great time management tool, 1947 01:24:26.480 --> 01:24:29.360 when you schedule in these sessions. 1948 01:24:29.360 --> 01:24:31.090 So that's helpful. 1949 01:24:31.090 --> 01:24:35.690 There is a paper on how metacognition, 1950 01:24:35.690 --> 01:24:38.960 how it enhances the efficacy of active learning. 1951 01:24:38.960 --> 01:24:40.690 Now, another email, 1952 01:24:40.690 --> 01:24:43.000 I thought I'd put it in here, but evidently I didn't, 1953 01:24:43.000 --> 01:24:45.600 this was an email from an engineering professor 1954 01:24:46.607 --> 01:24:49.080 at North Dakotas State who gave just 1955 01:24:49.080 --> 01:24:52.300 the information about Bloom's and the study cycle 1956 01:24:52.300 --> 01:24:55.860 to a student who was not doing well at all. 1957 01:24:55.860 --> 01:24:58.480 And about three weeks later, he sent her an email, 1958 01:24:58.480 --> 01:24:59.990 he'd made a hundred on the first test, 1959 01:24:59.990 --> 01:25:03.000 I think it was 115% on the first and only graded homework. 1960 01:25:03.000 --> 01:25:05.210 And she said, then she started inviting students 1961 01:25:05.210 --> 01:25:07.370 to co-teach lectures with her. 1962 01:25:07.370 --> 01:25:10.060 And she found that they poured their passion 1963 01:25:10.060 --> 01:25:12.590 into the lecture and they got a lot out of it. 1964 01:25:12.590 --> 01:25:14.530 And so that was very helpful. 1965 01:25:14.530 --> 01:25:16.650 Okay, so actually I see where we are, 1966 01:25:16.650 --> 01:25:19.493 we are now at about 2:57, 1967 01:25:21.070 --> 01:25:22.410 and I know we're supposed to end at 3:00, 1968 01:25:22.410 --> 01:25:26.300 but I probably will go over about five to seven minutes, 1969 01:25:26.300 --> 01:25:28.840 but I never do that without getting permission 1970 01:25:28.840 --> 01:25:31.040 from my participants. 1971 01:25:31.040 --> 01:25:36.040 So is it okay if I go over about seven minutes or so after? 1972 01:25:36.920 --> 01:25:38.750 Okay, I'm seeing a thumbs up, a yes. 1973 01:25:38.750 --> 01:25:41.070 And I know some of you will need to leave 1974 01:25:41.070 --> 01:25:43.240 because you may have a class coming up, 1975 01:25:43.240 --> 01:25:47.100 but there is gonna be a tape of this, it's being taped, 1976 01:25:47.100 --> 01:25:48.840 and then you can just go to the end of the tape 1977 01:25:48.840 --> 01:25:50.020 if you have to miss it. 1978 01:25:50.020 --> 01:25:52.170 But okay, so thank you. 1979 01:25:52.170 --> 01:25:53.980 Oh, okay, Jim has to head out. 1980 01:25:53.980 --> 01:25:55.920 Okay, great, thank you for coming. 1981 01:25:55.920 --> 01:25:57.450 Yeah, and anybody who has to leave, 1982 01:25:57.450 --> 01:26:00.200 no problem, you'll be able to see the tape. 1983 01:26:00.200 --> 01:26:02.900 Now there's an article in the proceedings 1984 01:26:02.900 --> 01:26:04.280 of the National Academy of Science 1985 01:26:04.280 --> 01:26:06.970 that active learning narrows the achievement gaps 1986 01:26:06.970 --> 01:26:09.130 for underrepresented students in undergraduate science, 1987 01:26:09.130 --> 01:26:11.283 technology, engineering, and math courses. 1988 01:26:12.311 --> 01:26:14.930 And so I think knowing that if we use active learning 1989 01:26:14.930 --> 01:26:17.706 in combination with teaching students about metacognition, 1990 01:26:17.706 --> 01:26:19.763 it has great potential. 1991 01:26:20.600 --> 01:26:23.493 Students typically don't like active learning. 1992 01:26:24.370 --> 01:26:27.052 This study found that students thought 1993 01:26:27.052 --> 01:26:28.743 that they learned a whole lot more 1994 01:26:28.743 --> 01:26:30.210 if the lecture just gave them the information, 1995 01:26:30.210 --> 01:26:32.510 rather than having them spend their time 1996 01:26:32.510 --> 01:26:35.210 talking to their next door neighbor, blah, blah, blah. 1997 01:26:39.443 --> 01:26:40.510 Yeah, I don't have it, 1998 01:26:40.510 --> 01:26:43.230 every time I need to get to it, I just Google. 1999 01:26:43.230 --> 01:26:46.390 Yeah, I just Google the title and then it comes up. 2000 01:26:46.390 --> 01:26:48.787 But Beverly, if you don't get it, 2001 01:26:48.787 --> 01:26:50.980 then just email me and I will certainly be happy 2002 01:26:52.194 --> 01:26:54.860 to send it to you, because it is something that 2003 01:26:54.860 --> 01:26:58.020 I think is important for everybody to know, 2004 01:26:58.020 --> 01:27:00.830 and this article about how students feel 2005 01:27:00.830 --> 01:27:03.570 about active learning is extremely important 2006 01:27:03.570 --> 01:27:06.250 for students to know that even though you might think 2007 01:27:06.250 --> 01:27:09.513 you're not learning while you're doing active learning, 2008 01:27:10.537 --> 01:27:13.296 you are learning a lot more than if you are gonna 2009 01:27:13.296 --> 01:27:14.703 just get a straight lecture. 2010 01:27:16.378 --> 01:27:19.763 And we can teach this to an entire class, 2011 01:27:20.715 --> 01:27:22.960 and I was just gonna show you some results here. 2012 01:27:22.960 --> 01:27:24.840 I only do this after the students get 2013 01:27:24.840 --> 01:27:27.030 the results back from their first test or quiz, 2014 01:27:27.030 --> 01:27:29.590 because I find that if we try to do it before then, 2015 01:27:29.590 --> 01:27:32.296 most students will think, I don't need this. 2016 01:27:32.296 --> 01:27:33.735 You know, I don't know why she's talking 2017 01:27:33.735 --> 01:27:34.734 to me about this stuff. 2018 01:27:34.734 --> 01:27:36.500 I got my A's, A+ from high school. 2019 01:27:36.500 --> 01:27:37.333 Oh, wait, 2020 01:27:37.333 --> 01:27:38.960 she must be talking to all the dumies in the class 2021 01:27:38.960 --> 01:27:40.700 who need this stuff, but not me. 2022 01:27:40.700 --> 01:27:43.470 But then after the first test or quiz, they see that, 2023 01:27:43.470 --> 01:27:45.580 hmm, maybe I need this too. 2024 01:27:45.580 --> 01:27:49.573 And so the average on the first exam was about the same, 2025 01:27:50.836 --> 01:27:53.740 but on the second exam, these folks went up to 77, 2026 01:27:53.740 --> 01:27:57.051 these folks went down to 69, end of the course, 2027 01:27:57.051 --> 01:27:57.884 whole letter grade difference. 2028 01:27:57.884 --> 01:27:58.717 And we published this 2029 01:27:59.747 --> 01:28:00.877 in the "Journal of Chemical Education". 2030 01:28:06.560 --> 01:28:08.460 Next year we did it in second semester 2031 01:28:09.497 --> 01:28:11.518 and there was a two letter grade difference, 2032 01:28:11.518 --> 01:28:14.322 and here you see the big difference was in homework total. 2033 01:28:14.322 --> 01:28:16.622 Once students understood the value of homework 2034 01:28:17.637 --> 01:28:19.230 and how it helped their learning, 2035 01:28:19.230 --> 01:28:22.793 then they changed their behavior, and it paid off big time. 2036 01:28:23.635 --> 01:28:25.760 And then this year, we only gave them the information 2037 01:28:25.760 --> 01:28:28.303 after they'd done the first three exams. 2038 01:28:30.238 --> 01:28:31.860 And the average in the class was less than a C, 2039 01:28:31.860 --> 01:28:36.160 it was at a D, and this time the people who attended 2040 01:28:36.160 --> 01:28:39.600 had an average lower than the people who were there. 2041 01:28:39.600 --> 01:28:41.280 But by the end of the course, 2042 01:28:41.280 --> 01:28:43.570 these people were still a letter grade higher, 2043 01:28:43.570 --> 01:28:45.599 exam four, average, 2044 01:28:45.599 --> 01:28:47.840 and the final exam, 81 versus 75. 2045 01:28:47.840 --> 01:28:49.740 So it makes a big difference. 2046 01:28:49.740 --> 01:28:51.550 And I like to show students these data 2047 01:28:51.550 --> 01:28:53.293 to help 'em buy into it also. 2048 01:28:54.719 --> 01:28:56.790 These faculty members figured out how 2049 01:28:56.790 --> 01:29:01.279 to do a face to face format of the study cycle, 2050 01:29:01.279 --> 01:29:03.694 and they published their work in this article, 2051 01:29:03.694 --> 01:29:05.120 which you can find. 2052 01:29:05.120 --> 01:29:06.470 And so in a couple of minutes, 2053 01:29:06.470 --> 01:29:09.210 I'm just gonna talk about mindset, 2054 01:29:09.210 --> 01:29:12.080 and that is the idea, 2055 01:29:12.080 --> 01:29:14.290 Carol Dweck's work, put in the chat box for me, 2056 01:29:14.290 --> 01:29:18.323 yes or no, if you're familiar with Dweck's work on mindset. 2057 01:29:19.594 --> 01:29:22.130 Because it has to do the attitude 2058 01:29:22.130 --> 01:29:24.200 that people have about intelligence. 2059 01:29:24.200 --> 01:29:25.480 Okay, a lot of people are, 2060 01:29:25.480 --> 01:29:27.820 some people are not, so briefly, 2061 01:29:27.820 --> 01:29:31.250 I'll say what Dweck found was that most people 2062 01:29:31.250 --> 01:29:34.040 have one of two ideas about intelligence. 2063 01:29:34.040 --> 01:29:35.270 Either they think that you were born 2064 01:29:35.270 --> 01:29:37.197 with a certain amount of it, 2065 01:29:37.197 --> 01:29:38.223 it's not gonna change very much, 2066 01:29:39.058 --> 01:29:39.970 and she calls that a fixed mindset. 2067 01:29:39.970 --> 01:29:41.650 The other view is that you can grow 2068 01:29:41.650 --> 01:29:43.390 your intelligence with your actions, 2069 01:29:43.390 --> 01:29:45.123 you can make yourself smarter. 2070 01:29:46.337 --> 01:29:48.790 And this is very important because your reaction 2071 01:29:48.790 --> 01:29:51.720 to a lot of things are based on your mindset. 2072 01:29:51.720 --> 01:29:53.900 People with a fixed mindset avoid challenges, 2073 01:29:53.900 --> 01:29:56.470 they give up very easily when they get to an obstacle, 2074 01:29:56.470 --> 01:29:58.150 they don't even expend any effort because 2075 01:29:58.150 --> 01:29:59.470 they think effort is fruitless, 2076 01:29:59.470 --> 01:30:02.266 'cause either they they're smart enough to do it 2077 01:30:02.266 --> 01:30:04.600 without trying or they're not smart enough to do it at all. 2078 01:30:04.600 --> 01:30:06.120 They ignore constructive criticism 2079 01:30:06.120 --> 01:30:08.900 and they find the success of others very threatening. 2080 01:30:08.900 --> 01:30:12.080 Whereas people with a growth mindset, embrace challenges, 2081 01:30:12.080 --> 01:30:13.870 they persist through obstacles, 2082 01:30:13.870 --> 01:30:16.610 they know that effort is the path to mastery, 2083 01:30:16.610 --> 01:30:17.850 they learn from criticism, 2084 01:30:17.850 --> 01:30:21.016 and they're inspired when they see others succeed. 2085 01:30:21.016 --> 01:30:23.570 And this is just a little diagram that shows how, 2086 01:30:23.570 --> 01:30:26.090 if you have a growth mindset, you're gonna grow, 2087 01:30:26.090 --> 01:30:28.400 but with a fixed mindset, you're not. 2088 01:30:28.400 --> 01:30:30.340 Now last two poll questions, 2089 01:30:30.340 --> 01:30:33.680 what mindset about intelligence 2090 01:30:33.680 --> 01:30:36.860 do you think most students at UVM have? 2091 01:30:36.860 --> 01:30:40.050 Do you think they have mostly a fixed mindset 2092 01:30:40.050 --> 01:30:43.040 or a growth mindset? 2093 01:30:43.040 --> 01:30:45.810 And I'll see what you're saying. 2094 01:30:45.810 --> 01:30:47.637 Oh, this is interesting. 2095 01:30:47.637 --> 01:30:50.436 So far everybody says fixed, okay, 2096 01:30:50.436 --> 01:30:52.194 here's one that says growth. 2097 01:30:52.194 --> 01:30:53.444 Okay, but most of us, 94, 2098 01:30:54.880 --> 01:30:57.080 okay, now it's 85%, 2099 01:30:57.080 --> 01:30:59.340 but still the vast majority of us think fixed. 2100 01:30:59.340 --> 01:31:01.330 And I actually find that that's the case, 2101 01:31:01.330 --> 01:31:03.680 especially for students who've done really, really well. 2102 01:31:03.680 --> 01:31:06.270 They've always been told they're very smart 2103 01:31:06.270 --> 01:31:07.940 and they're smarter than everybody else, 2104 01:31:07.940 --> 01:31:11.233 and they know that they were born that way. 2105 01:31:12.110 --> 01:31:13.030 Now, oh yeah, 2106 01:31:13.030 --> 01:31:14.810 exactly, I've always been bad at chemistry, 2107 01:31:14.810 --> 01:31:16.290 I just don't have the chemistry gene. 2108 01:31:16.290 --> 01:31:18.320 I see it a lot in math also. 2109 01:31:18.320 --> 01:31:20.580 What mindset about student intelligence 2110 01:31:20.580 --> 01:31:22.343 do you think most faculty have? 2111 01:31:24.453 --> 01:31:27.840 And tell me if that's fixed or growth, you think? 2112 01:31:27.840 --> 01:31:31.780 And we will see, I didn't ask this question earlier, 2113 01:31:31.780 --> 01:31:35.290 in the session this morning with general faculty, 2114 01:31:35.290 --> 01:31:38.840 but I find that typically general faculty say 2115 01:31:38.840 --> 01:31:41.790 that STEM faculty have a fixed mindset, 2116 01:31:41.790 --> 01:31:45.293 but STEM faculty always say that they have a growth mindset. 2117 01:31:46.367 --> 01:31:49.750 And so yeah, I'll stop it now. 2118 01:31:49.750 --> 01:31:52.170 And I'm sure that most of you on this line 2119 01:31:52.170 --> 01:31:56.460 do have a growth mindset, but I had a very fixed mindset. 2120 01:31:56.460 --> 01:31:59.694 It changed once I learned this information, 2121 01:31:59.694 --> 01:32:02.060 but I thought that if a student flunked my first three tests 2122 01:32:02.060 --> 01:32:04.470 in organic chemistry and came to the office 2123 01:32:04.470 --> 01:32:05.980 and said they wanted to be a neurosurgeon, 2124 01:32:05.980 --> 01:32:07.110 what could they do? 2125 01:32:07.110 --> 01:32:09.490 I would say, let's talk about your backup plan. 2126 01:32:09.490 --> 01:32:12.940 I repent of that now, I'm sorry I said that, 2127 01:32:12.940 --> 01:32:16.573 but I had no idea that this was possible. 2128 01:32:17.580 --> 01:32:18.863 And okay, so we did that, 2129 01:32:20.239 --> 01:32:24.910 and oh yeah, here's an email from a student 2130 01:32:24.910 --> 01:32:27.050 who obviously had a fixed mindset, 2131 01:32:27.050 --> 01:32:28.130 he wanted me to tutor him. 2132 01:32:28.130 --> 01:32:30.230 He said he wasn't doing well in chemistry, 2133 01:32:31.117 --> 01:32:34.490 not he wasn't doing well, he wasn't good at chemistry, 2134 01:32:34.490 --> 01:32:35.850 and his grade was reflecting that. 2135 01:32:35.850 --> 01:32:37.120 He wanted me to tutor him, 2136 01:32:37.120 --> 01:32:39.670 I spent not one nanosecond tutoring this guy, 2137 01:32:39.670 --> 01:32:41.930 gave him one session like this, 2138 01:32:42.983 --> 01:32:44.643 to share the strategies I'm talking about. 2139 01:32:45.666 --> 01:32:48.342 And these was grades after and his grades before. 2140 01:32:48.342 --> 01:32:51.245 And he sent me the email that he ended up earning a 90, A, 2141 01:32:51.245 --> 01:32:52.078 and he said, I think what I did different 2142 01:32:52.078 --> 01:32:53.710 was make side notes in each chapter, 2143 01:32:53.710 --> 01:32:55.720 and as I progressed to the next chapter, 2144 01:32:55.720 --> 01:32:57.310 I was able to refer to these notes. 2145 01:32:57.310 --> 01:33:00.510 I would say that in chemistry, 2146 01:33:00.510 --> 01:33:05.510 everything builds from the previous topic, who knew? 2147 01:33:06.010 --> 01:33:08.020 Now, I'm glad he figured that out 2148 01:33:08.020 --> 01:33:11.308 because we actually talked about that in the session. 2149 01:33:11.308 --> 01:33:13.262 And I think that his faculty member thought 2150 01:33:13.262 --> 01:33:16.861 that by April 6th, of a course that started in January, 2151 01:33:16.861 --> 01:33:18.540 he would've figured out by now 2152 01:33:18.540 --> 01:33:20.750 that everything built from the previous topic. 2153 01:33:20.750 --> 01:33:23.491 But he didn't, and he didn't even have the book, 2154 01:33:23.491 --> 01:33:25.140 and I think I tell that story in the book. 2155 01:33:25.140 --> 01:33:26.770 But he didn't even know that there was a book 2156 01:33:26.770 --> 01:33:28.703 for the course before we met. 2157 01:33:30.028 --> 01:33:32.680 There's a study that links faculty attitudes on intelligence 2158 01:33:32.680 --> 01:33:34.290 to student success in STEM 2159 01:33:34.290 --> 01:33:37.060 with a large impact on minority student success. 2160 01:33:37.060 --> 01:33:40.100 What they found was that all students in the class 2161 01:33:40.976 --> 01:33:44.450 of a professor with a fixed mindset, I mean, 2162 01:33:44.450 --> 01:33:49.040 with a growth mindset did better, these did better. 2163 01:33:49.040 --> 01:33:52.410 And the white and Asian students, 2164 01:33:52.410 --> 01:33:55.110 the difference, the gap between their performance 2165 01:33:55.993 --> 01:33:57.779 and the performance of black, Latino, 2166 01:33:57.779 --> 01:34:01.170 and Native American students, that gap was cut in half. 2167 01:34:01.170 --> 01:34:04.212 And so I know one of your strategic goals in CMS 2168 01:34:04.212 --> 01:34:06.520 is to get rid of the discrepancy 2169 01:34:06.520 --> 01:34:08.820 between the success rates of those two groups, 2170 01:34:09.671 --> 01:34:10.940 and that's one way to do it. 2171 01:34:10.940 --> 01:34:12.360 Here is an interview with 2172 01:34:12.360 --> 01:34:15.210 a Princeton neuroscience graduate student 2173 01:34:15.210 --> 01:34:16.910 who came from a public high school 2174 01:34:18.714 --> 01:34:21.350 and she was making B's and C's her freshman year. 2175 01:34:21.350 --> 01:34:23.980 And she and her colleague thought that coming 2176 01:34:23.980 --> 01:34:25.570 from a public school, 2177 01:34:25.570 --> 01:34:26.740 that's all they were gonna be able to do. 2178 01:34:26.740 --> 01:34:27.890 'Cause they saw all these kids 2179 01:34:27.890 --> 01:34:30.750 from the private schools making the A's. 2180 01:34:30.750 --> 01:34:33.220 But she said the growth mindset in the book was so, 2181 01:34:33.220 --> 01:34:35.150 so important because before that I thought, 2182 01:34:35.150 --> 01:34:36.360 if you're smart, you're smart. 2183 01:34:36.360 --> 01:34:38.510 You came from a private high school, you're all set. 2184 01:34:38.510 --> 01:34:41.551 You came from a public high school, you can't even grow. 2185 01:34:41.551 --> 01:34:42.384 But then she learned that she could 2186 01:34:42.384 --> 01:34:45.600 and she got a C in her first neuro class, 2187 01:34:45.600 --> 01:34:47.550 the professor asked, why are you even majoring in neuro? 2188 01:34:47.550 --> 01:34:49.100 You having a C in my class. 2189 01:34:49.100 --> 01:34:52.690 But she stayed in, she got an A+ on her senior thesis, 2190 01:34:52.690 --> 01:34:54.920 she had all A's her senior year, 2191 01:34:54.920 --> 01:34:57.560 her last year taking all neuroscience courses. 2192 01:34:57.560 --> 01:34:59.770 And she said, if it wasn't for the growth mindset, 2193 01:34:59.770 --> 01:35:00.870 I wouldn't be here. 2194 01:35:00.870 --> 01:35:02.460 I now know that just because you're from 2195 01:35:02.460 --> 01:35:03.790 a public high school doesn't mean 2196 01:35:03.790 --> 01:35:05.290 you can't thrive at Princeton. 2197 01:35:06.193 --> 01:35:07.520 And you probably don't have a lot of students 2198 01:35:08.445 --> 01:35:09.920 who are leaving UVM because of a fixed mindset. 2199 01:35:09.920 --> 01:35:11.480 But I bet you have a lot of students 2200 01:35:11.480 --> 01:35:13.750 who are leaving STEM majors. 2201 01:35:13.750 --> 01:35:15.220 And if they have this information, 2202 01:35:15.220 --> 01:35:18.940 they will know that they can succeed. 2203 01:35:18.940 --> 01:35:19.830 You can read this later, 2204 01:35:19.830 --> 01:35:22.150 but this was a professor in California. 2205 01:35:22.150 --> 01:35:25.010 She had a student who had failed the first time 2206 01:35:25.970 --> 01:35:28.280 and she thought she was bad at biology, 2207 01:35:28.280 --> 01:35:31.630 but she liked this information on strategies and mindset. 2208 01:35:31.630 --> 01:35:33.510 She's getting an A this semester, 2209 01:35:33.510 --> 01:35:35.310 highest grade on the final exam. 2210 01:35:35.310 --> 01:35:36.320 She said, it gets better, 2211 01:35:36.320 --> 01:35:38.030 she wasn't doing all an intro physics, 2212 01:35:38.030 --> 01:35:41.030 the professor gave her the test back and said drop. 2213 01:35:41.030 --> 01:35:42.991 But she decided that she was good at physics too, 2214 01:35:42.991 --> 01:35:45.130 with this new growth mindset. 2215 01:35:45.130 --> 01:35:47.520 And she ended up with a B in that class also. 2216 01:35:47.520 --> 01:35:50.750 And so I like to share these stories with strategies. 2217 01:35:50.750 --> 01:35:53.940 HSTEM, I noticed one of your college goals 2218 01:35:53.940 --> 01:35:56.853 is to make students feel more included, 2219 01:35:57.870 --> 01:36:01.143 and this is a wonderful project that was started at Amherst. 2220 01:36:02.305 --> 01:36:04.070 And if you just Google that, 2221 01:36:04.070 --> 01:36:06.890 and this is actually the website for that, 2222 01:36:06.890 --> 01:36:09.670 this is a great space for students 2223 01:36:09.670 --> 01:36:12.993 to feel that they can bring their authentic selves 2224 01:36:12.993 --> 01:36:13.920 to the STEM arena. 2225 01:36:13.920 --> 01:36:15.260 And so, as we end, 2226 01:36:15.260 --> 01:36:18.040 I wanna end with this student 2227 01:36:18.040 --> 01:36:21.490 who was not passing any of his cums, almost none, 2228 01:36:21.490 --> 01:36:25.060 he passed one of his cums the first year. 2229 01:36:25.060 --> 01:36:26.040 We give eight a year, 2230 01:36:26.040 --> 01:36:28.160 they have to pass six within their first two years, 2231 01:36:28.160 --> 01:36:30.160 or they're kicked out of the PhD program. 2232 01:36:30.160 --> 01:36:32.530 He only passed one his first year, 2233 01:36:32.530 --> 01:36:35.360 but he learned the strategies and passed all five 2234 01:36:35.360 --> 01:36:37.700 the next year out of seven exams, 2235 01:36:37.700 --> 01:36:39.420 he didn't even need the eighth one. 2236 01:36:39.420 --> 01:36:42.910 And people in chemistry thought that 2237 01:36:42.910 --> 01:36:45.309 there's no way he was gonna pass five out of eight 2238 01:36:45.309 --> 01:36:48.910 if he only passed one out out of eight, but he did. 2239 01:36:48.910 --> 01:36:50.433 And he learned the strategies. 2240 01:36:51.457 --> 01:36:52.989 This is he, Dr. Algernon Kelley, 2241 01:36:52.989 --> 01:36:55.056 take a good look at this guy. 2242 01:36:55.056 --> 01:36:56.800 He's the only person I know on the planet 2243 01:36:58.434 --> 01:36:59.613 who has a PhD in chemistry now, 2244 01:36:59.613 --> 01:37:00.490 his is in analytical chemistry. 2245 01:37:00.490 --> 01:37:02.810 But he started every single college course 2246 01:37:02.810 --> 01:37:04.253 at the remedial level. 2247 01:37:05.296 --> 01:37:08.111 And so now he teaches these strategies everywhere he goes, 2248 01:37:08.111 --> 01:37:10.300 and he gets lots of emails, as you're gonna start getting, 2249 01:37:10.300 --> 01:37:12.510 as I get from students. 2250 01:37:12.510 --> 01:37:14.470 And I'd like to end with these three, 2251 01:37:14.470 --> 01:37:16.210 October 17th, the student writes, 2252 01:37:16.210 --> 01:37:18.070 I'm struggling, really wanna succeed, 2253 01:37:18.070 --> 01:37:20.060 but everything is just ending with a decent grade. 2254 01:37:20.060 --> 01:37:22.050 He was pre-med, he was getting C's. 2255 01:37:22.050 --> 01:37:24.220 I was hoping you could mentor me and guide me down the path 2256 01:37:24.220 --> 01:37:26.380 that will help me realize my true potential. 2257 01:37:26.380 --> 01:37:28.630 One week later made an 84 compared to 56 2258 01:37:28.630 --> 01:37:31.700 on my chemistry exam. 2259 01:37:31.700 --> 01:37:36.310 November 3rd, increased bio from 76 to 91.5. 2260 01:37:36.310 --> 01:37:40.155 I've honestly gained a sense of hope and confidence. 2261 01:37:40.155 --> 01:37:41.450 And that's what students lose 2262 01:37:41.450 --> 01:37:45.110 when they come with all the confidence in the world 2263 01:37:45.110 --> 01:37:47.080 that they're gonna take UVM by storm, 2264 01:37:47.080 --> 01:37:48.290 they're gonna be successful. 2265 01:37:48.290 --> 01:37:51.010 Then they get that first set of tests and quizzes back 2266 01:37:51.010 --> 01:37:52.270 and they are sunk. 2267 01:37:52.270 --> 01:37:55.070 But then this information can give it back to them. 2268 01:37:55.070 --> 01:37:56.510 My family and I are really grateful 2269 01:37:56.510 --> 01:37:59.056 you've taken the time to get me back on track. 2270 01:37:59.056 --> 01:38:00.280 And you see the difference in his attitude, 2271 01:38:00.280 --> 01:38:02.120 in his mood, I should say. 2272 01:38:02.120 --> 01:38:04.040 He goes from hello, Dr. Kelley, 2273 01:38:04.040 --> 01:38:06.260 hey Dr. Kelley, hey Dr. Kelley! 2274 01:38:06.260 --> 01:38:09.130 And so when students have that level of enthusiasm 2275 01:38:09.130 --> 01:38:12.580 about their courses, then it really makes a big difference. 2276 01:38:12.580 --> 01:38:13.970 So in conclusion, 2277 01:38:13.970 --> 01:38:16.700 we really can close this metacognitive equity gap, 2278 01:38:16.700 --> 01:38:19.100 we can help our STEM students be more successful 2279 01:38:19.967 --> 01:38:21.840 by teaching them how to learn, making the learning visible. 2280 01:38:21.840 --> 01:38:24.240 We can't judge their potential on their initial performance 2281 01:38:24.240 --> 01:38:25.820 and we can't let them do it either. 2282 01:38:25.820 --> 01:38:27.550 We gotta encourage them to persist, 2283 01:38:27.550 --> 01:38:29.320 even when they initially fail, 2284 01:38:29.320 --> 01:38:32.230 we gotta encourage them to use these metacognitive tools. 2285 01:38:32.230 --> 01:38:33.780 And these are some references, 2286 01:38:33.780 --> 01:38:34.900 these are some acknowledgements, 2287 01:38:34.900 --> 01:38:36.433 this is the faculty resource. 2288 01:38:37.307 --> 01:38:38.860 And if you really wanna increase the chances 2289 01:38:38.860 --> 01:38:40.770 that students are gonna use the strategies, 2290 01:38:40.770 --> 01:38:43.356 then please suggest that they read the book. 2291 01:38:43.356 --> 01:38:46.050 In fact, this is the first day I've ever 2292 01:38:46.050 --> 01:38:48.290 had this slide in here like this, 2293 01:38:48.290 --> 01:38:50.496 because I didn't want it to seem 2294 01:38:50.496 --> 01:38:52.788 like I was hawking my wares, you know, 2295 01:38:52.788 --> 01:38:55.546 trying to push students into reading the book. 2296 01:38:55.546 --> 01:38:56.379 But I've had faculty say, you know, 2297 01:38:56.379 --> 01:38:58.850 I need you to talk to my students. 2298 01:38:58.850 --> 01:39:00.846 And there were faculty who said, you know, 2299 01:39:00.846 --> 01:39:02.270 well, I told students, you know, 2300 01:39:02.270 --> 01:39:04.283 I saw that great workshop you did, 2301 01:39:05.256 --> 01:39:06.960 and I told the students the strategies, 2302 01:39:06.960 --> 01:39:08.420 but I can't get 'em to do it. 2303 01:39:08.420 --> 01:39:11.410 And it finally dawned on me only about six months ago, 2304 01:39:11.410 --> 01:39:14.450 that the difference may be that the faculty 2305 01:39:14.450 --> 01:39:15.390 are hearing it from me, 2306 01:39:15.390 --> 01:39:17.450 you're seeing all these wonderful examples, 2307 01:39:17.450 --> 01:39:21.030 but then students are getting it from you 2308 01:39:21.030 --> 01:39:23.880 where you don't have time to put in all this other stuff. 2309 01:39:23.880 --> 01:39:25.010 But when they read the book, 2310 01:39:25.010 --> 01:39:27.610 it starts off with my experience. 2311 01:39:27.610 --> 01:39:31.630 I was a memorizer and I give lots of examples 2312 01:39:31.630 --> 01:39:32.880 and they find it motivational, 2313 01:39:32.880 --> 01:39:35.199 'cause I get emails from students. 2314 01:39:35.199 --> 01:39:38.830 And so now I am unabashedly suggesting 2315 01:39:38.830 --> 01:39:40.810 that you have students read the book, 2316 01:39:40.810 --> 01:39:42.130 and actually what I would love, 2317 01:39:42.130 --> 01:39:43.530 I don't know if I have any takers, 2318 01:39:43.530 --> 01:39:46.050 but if there's someone who could have this book, 2319 01:39:46.050 --> 01:39:50.330 maybe as a resource, you could recommend it, 2320 01:39:50.330 --> 01:39:52.720 or resource, or whatever for a class, 2321 01:39:52.720 --> 01:39:55.810 'cause I'd like to see if reading the book, 2322 01:39:55.810 --> 01:39:58.770 if a class reads the book, if it makes a difference. 2323 01:39:58.770 --> 01:40:00.380 This is the one for parents 2324 01:40:00.380 --> 01:40:04.819 and I am going to now I think that's the end of it. 2325 01:40:04.819 --> 01:40:06.710 This is interesting, I guess that really is the end, 2326 01:40:06.710 --> 01:40:09.670 because it will not let me, and oh yeah, 2327 01:40:09.670 --> 01:40:11.440 that's the end, and no wonder won't let me. 2328 01:40:11.440 --> 01:40:16.440 Okay, so I'm gonna stop presenting and I will end this, 2329 01:40:16.580 --> 01:40:21.580 and I just wanna a thank you to everyone who has come. 2330 01:40:21.650 --> 01:40:23.858 I know there's a lot of other things 2331 01:40:23.858 --> 01:40:25.370 you needed to be doing with your time this afternoon, 2332 01:40:25.370 --> 01:40:28.350 but you decided to spend this time with us. 2333 01:40:28.350 --> 01:40:30.630 So thank you, thank you, thank you. 2334 01:40:30.630 --> 01:40:32.823 And I will turn it back over to CTL. 2335 01:40:35.080 --> 01:40:37.350 Well, we just wanna thank you so much for being here, 2336 01:40:37.350 --> 01:40:39.543 Dr. McGuire, this has been wonderful. 2337 01:40:41.267 --> 01:40:42.706 And you can see with the enthusiasm in the chat 2338 01:40:42.706 --> 01:40:45.640 that other folks got so much out of this as well. 2339 01:40:45.640 --> 01:40:47.950 Oh yes, and I see a lot of thanks to me. 2340 01:40:47.950 --> 01:40:49.860 I wanna thank you because you are 2341 01:40:49.860 --> 01:40:51.820 in the trenches doing all the hard work. 2342 01:40:51.820 --> 01:40:53.270 I just sit in my study and talk 2343 01:40:53.270 --> 01:40:56.600 to wonderful people like you, so thank you. 2344 01:40:56.600 --> 01:40:58.870 And on behalf of your students, 2345 01:40:58.870 --> 01:41:00.983 they are very fortunate to have you. 2346 01:41:01.829 --> 01:41:04.090 And when you have this additional set of tools 2347 01:41:04.090 --> 01:41:07.000 in your arsenal where you can teach them, aah, 2348 01:41:07.000 --> 01:41:08.871 100 outta 10 stars, aah, Alexandria. (hums) 2349 01:41:08.871 --> 01:41:13.871 And I loved the feedback that I got from everybody, 2350 01:41:15.210 --> 01:41:17.083 so thank you, thank you, thank you. 2351 01:41:18.037 --> 01:41:20.330 And I can hang on in answering other questions 2352 01:41:20.330 --> 01:41:21.620 if anybody has them, 2353 01:41:21.620 --> 01:41:24.550 but please don't feel compelled to stay on. 2354 01:41:24.550 --> 01:41:26.910 I've enjoyed you, have a great rest of the week, 2355 01:41:26.910 --> 01:41:29.010 and have a wonderful rest of the semester.