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More will be joining us.
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So welcome everyone
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to another event of the Faculty Development series.
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I'm Jim Vigoreaux, the vice provost for faculty affairs.
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And before I introduce our presenter today,
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let me take a minute to thank
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the Howard Hughes Medical Institute
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who are supporting this event today.
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So our presenter is Dr. Saundra Yancy McGuire,
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who is the Director Emerita of the Center
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for Academic Success
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and retired Assistant Vice Chancellor
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and Professor of Chemistry at Louisiana State University.
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She has delivered keynote addresses or presenter workshops
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on effective learning strategies
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at over 500 institutions and 47 states and 13 countries.
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And I believe we're adding another state today to that.
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Yes, you are now 48, thanks to UVM.
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And now 48.
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So prior to joining LSU, Dr. McGuire spent 11 years
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at Cornell where she received
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the coveted Clark Distinguished Teaching Award
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Her best selling books,
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"Teach Students How to Learn"
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and "Teach Yourself How to Learn"
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are widely acclaimed by faculty and students.
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The parent version,
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"The Parents' Guide to Studying and Learning"
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was released in January, 2022.
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McGuire's most recent accolades include
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being named a 2022 Louisiana Legend
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by Louisiana public broadcasting.
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I can't imagine what that entails,
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but sounds pretty impressive.
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Being listed in the 2020 edition
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of Marquis Who's Who in America,
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receiving the 2019 Commitment to Excellence
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in Academic Support Award from the Commission
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for Academic Support in Higher Education,
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and induction in 2017 into
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the LSU College of Science Hall of Distinction.
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She's an elective fellow of the American Chemical Society,
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the American Association for Advancement of Science,
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and the Council of Learning Assistance
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and Developmental Education Associations.
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She received the Presidential Award for Excellence
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in Science, Mathematics, and Engineering Mentoring
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in a white house oval ceremony in, I don't have the year,
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but I think I remember.
Well since you remember.
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2006, somewhere there?
That's exactly right, yes.
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How do you remember that?
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I don't know, I keep track of them because
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I do have a few colleagues who have been given them.
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I see.
So I'm just in the habit
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to track 'em.
I see, okay,
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that's amazing.
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Well, you're amazing too,
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so it's good to remember these things.
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Dr. McGuire received her BS degree, magna cum laude,
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from Southern University in Baton Rouge, Louisiana,
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her master's degree from Cornell University,
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and her PhD from University of Tennessee at Knoxville,
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where she also received a Chancellor's Citation
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for Exceptional Professional Promise.
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She's married to Dr. Steven C. McGuire,
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the James and Ruth Smith Emeritus Professor of Physics
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at Southern University.
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And just to add to all of the accolades that I just read,
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they are the parents of Dr. Carla McGuire Davis
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and Dr. Stephanie McGuire,
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and the doting grandparents of Joshua,
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Ruth, Daniel, and Joseph Davis.
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I think there's no better way to accentuate
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all of those accomplishments with that final statement.
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So Dr. McGuire, my pleasure to welcome you to UVM
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for the second time today, the audience is yours.
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Well, thank you so much.
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Yes, and I'm still amazed that you remember the year.
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I used to put the year in there,
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but then when it was 10 years in the past,
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I left the year out, and you're the first person
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who has ever introduced me
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who could conjure up the year and present it.
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So thank you so much.
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And yeah, I said, you know,
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before we were these doting grandparents,
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but I wrote that when the grandkids were a lot younger,
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I think we're not quite as doting as we used to be.
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But you know, when the older two
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are about to graduate from college now.
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But I wanna thank all of you for coming this afternoon.
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It's more people than I expected,
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I thought maybe around 20, 25 and we are over 30.
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And I had lots of fun this morning with folks at UVM,
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and so I anticipate we're gonna
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have lots of fun this afternoon,
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but there were so many CMS folks there this morning
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that I am just wondering
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if you were there this morning or not?
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So Polly has been wonderful,
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she put in another poll question and let's see.
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Yeah, so answer that.
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Actually, Polly, is that your name?
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It's with Holly with an H.
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I'm sorry, say that?
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Holly with an H.
Holly,
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okay, that's a brain thing,
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and I'll tell you what happened there.
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Okay, yeah,
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so let me know if you were in the first session because,
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oh, okay, so so far,
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only about a fourth of the people were not.
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Yeah, so Holly,
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I think my brain went to the O, L, L, Y,
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but the polling feature in Microsoft teams,
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I learned just a couple of months ago is Polly.
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And so, yeah, did you know that?
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Yes, the inverted icon.
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Yes.
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Okay, and so then my brain is going, you know,
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O, L, L, Y,
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but it puts a P there, but I said Polly,
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and I said, no, that can't be right,
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but I couldn't figure out why I wanted to make it Polly,
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and so now I understand why.
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Okay, and I think that's an important point
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for the presentation when we talk about how the brain
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kind of makes us do crazy things.
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But there's always a reason for why these mistakes come up.
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And I think part of metacognition is really doing
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that analysis and figuring out why our brains
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led us in the wrong on direction.
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So, okay, oh, this is great,
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okay, so only 20% of the people were there this morning.
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I was thinking it would be more like around, you know,
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60 or 70, so this is great.
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And I'm really happy to see the folks
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who were there this morning, come back,
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and I can let you know that a lot of what you saw
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this morning, you'll see again,
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but I want you to look at it kind of with
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a fresh set of lenses.
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One of the things that I tell students
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when I encourage them to review their lecture notes,
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as soon after class as possible.
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And I say, when you do that,
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you're gonna see things that you didn't see before,
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and I give them the example of seeing
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a movie more than one time.
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And I ask them if they've noticed
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that they see different things?
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And they say, yeah.
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And I said, well,
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treat this when you go over the lecture as that same thing,
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you're looking for things that you didn't notice before.
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So those of you who are returning,
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please approach it through those lens
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and feel free in the chat box,
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if I say something that's different
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than what I said this morning, say,
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you didn't say that this morning,
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just challenge me on it,
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feel free to do that.
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But the thanks again for coming back for round two.
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And for those of you who are here for the first time,
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I have to warn you, I use the chat box a lot.
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I ask a lot of questions,
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there are no right or wrong answers
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to any of the questions that I ask,
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I just wanna know what you're thinking,
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what your experience has been.
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And so we're gonna be talking
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about teaching STEM students how to learn.
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And I say, metacognition is the key to that.
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And I do want to know a little bit about your familiarity
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with the work that I've done,
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you know a little bit about me,
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and so I want to know a little bit about you,
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because as you heard in the introduction, I've done,
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you know, over 500 of these,
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I've spoken at PCAL events,
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I've spoken at other STEM national conferences,
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and so I wanted to see where you are
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in terms of having oh, okay,
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and most of you again are none of the above.
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And typically what I like to do is when we're up to about,
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oh, maybe 70% of the folks attending.
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Okay, and since Zoom gives me total percent attended,
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but I don't see this here.
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So since we have a total of 34 people,
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when we get to about 30 responses
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and we're already over that,
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I'll give you the five second warning,
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so you can get your votes in,
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and we will see what we come up with.
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And unlike Zoom,
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I know that you can see the results in the chat box
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so we can see that, yeah,
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almost 80%, none,
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one person has read the book,
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two people in the webinar,
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and four in an in-person workshop.
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Great, okay, thanks.
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And then my last whole question for right now
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is how familiar are you with the term, metacognition?
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Because that's the framework that I present
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this work to students in,
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and I'll tell you why in just a minute,
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and so sometimes I speak to audiences
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and they're very familiar with it, sometimes not so much.
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Okay, and I see a lot of folks are saying a little bit,
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only three, quite a lot,
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so far, nobody more than I of care to know.
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Okay, and oh, we are already up to 33.
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So, okay,
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so we'll end it now, and I see that,
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okay, so almost 90% say almost nothing or a little bit.
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So this is great.
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Okay, and so the faculty resource,
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the book that has everything
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that we're talking about this morning
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and additional information
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is in "Teach Students How to Learn", and the agenda,
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I'm gonna talk a little bit,
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I didn't say anything this morning about
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what I call metacognitive equity,
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but we're gonna talk a little bit about that.
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And then I'll show you the impact of teaching
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these metacognitive strategies to individuals,
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to classes, and institution wide.
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We'll talk a little bit about Bloom's Taxonomy
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and the study cycle,
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and then the role of mindset in student learning,
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and then we'll have a conclusion and wrap up.
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And so with metacognition,
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the reason that I use that as the framework
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for what I discuss with students,
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in terms of how to more effectively study,
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how to more effectively learn,
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I talk about metacognition as opposed to study skills.
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Very often we talk about,
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we gotta teach students study skills,
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but I find that students, when you say study skills,
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I'm gonna teach you study skills,
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their eyes kind of glaze over.
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They don't wanna hear anything about study skills.
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And you have very prepared students who come to UVM,
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at least according to the normal metrics,
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especially the ones who are going into STEM disciplines.
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And so they feel that they are really prepared
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for this place, they don't think they need any study skills.
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And so I found that students
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really weren't interested in that,
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but when I talked about metacognition,
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it was a term that most of them had not heard.
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And so I have them dissect the word, is it simple?
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Is it compound?
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What does the root word mean?
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What does the prefix mean?
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And so we actually digest the word.
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And so it really comes down to metacognition,
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just a term that was coined by Flavell back in 1976,
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very simply put,
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is your ability to think about your own thinking.
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Now, there are a lot more complicated,
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involved definitions of metacognition
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with different types of metacognition, etcetera.
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if I want them to really take something away intuitively
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and do something with the information I'm giving them,
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it's gotta be simple, it's gotta be something
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that they can really wrap their minds around.
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a big brain outside your brain,
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looking at what your brain is doing,
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and that big brain is asking your brain questions,
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and it's saying, does she understand this information?
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Or did she just memorize it last night
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because the test is today?
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It's your ability to be consciously aware
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that you are a problem solver, that when things come up,
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that you don't think you know how to solve,
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then you probably do have the ability to solve that.
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The example I gave this morning was that students
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ask questions that are on the syllabus.
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then they think, oh,
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I need to go ask the professor how many tests
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we're gonna have in this course.
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where they can get that information.
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When I talk to students,
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the example I get is procrastination,
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that so many people have,
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and if you are not using your metacognitive brain,
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then you just accept that you're a procrastinator,
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there's nothing you can do about it.
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we need to solve this problem of procrastination.
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well, what am I supposed to do?
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I know you don't know what to do now,
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but there's a bunch of stuff
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you didn't know anything about that you took the steps
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to find out something about.
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And here's the first question for the chat,
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I ask students, when something comes up,
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let's say you've heard a new slang term
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and you have no idea what it means,
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and you wanna find out what it means,
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what do you do to find out what that means?
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if you've heard about something you don't know
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anything about, but you wanna find out something about it,
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what do you do?
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And I'll see if your response is, exactly,
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Google it, Linda,
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yeah, that's the first thing students say.
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you Google everything else, so Google that.
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And so if you were to Google, how to avoid procrastination,
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Kristen says, I ask my kids.
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Yes, and sometimes students say ask someone,
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and I point out that that can be a little bit risky,
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because I know Kristen, when I would ask my kids things,
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they would tell me what they wanted me to know about it,
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not necessarily what I needed to know about it.
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but I'd still check on that using another source,
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if possible.
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And so if you were to Google, how to avoid procrastination,
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you're gonna find all kinds of strategies
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that are very helpful.
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It's your ability to plan, monitor,
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evaluate, and control your mental processing.
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So you know if you're understanding something
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or if you're just memorizing it.
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It's your ability to accurately judge
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your level of learning.
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And that is huge because how many of you have ever,
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just gimme a yes or no,
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if you've ever had a student who got a test back,
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didn't do very well, and they came to you and they say,
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well, I don't know what happened
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because I studied for hours and hours for that test.
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Have you ever had a student say that,
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and put yes if you haven't, nos are fine also.
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Okay, and say yes.
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And those students are typically not lying.
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They did spend hours and hours studying for the test.
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But what activities were they involved in during that time
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where they were studying for hours and hours?
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What are some of the things that they were doing?
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Yeah, that's right,
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Kristen, they say I knew everything,
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and when I sat down for the test,
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it just flew right outta my head.
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Okay, John says,
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including my own children.
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Yeah, but what activity,
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exactly, they were just rereading the book
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or reviewing notes, sometimes they were highlighting things.
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Absolutely, and they were memorizing stuff,
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they were memorizing as they were going along.
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let's say it was a chemistry test
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and it was covering acids and bases, and if we,
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I had a question like define strong acids,
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define weak acid, define strong base,
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weak base, they're good to go,
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'cause they have memorized those definitions.
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and ask them to pick out the strong ones and the weak ones.
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of a strong acid, which one of these
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are gonna totally disassociate when we put 'em in water?
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because all they've done is memorized definitions.
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but they're studying at too low a level.
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And for me, that's where Bloom's Taxonomy comes in.
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So put in the chat box for me, please,
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if you would say, yes or no,
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are you very familiar with Bloom's Taxonomy?
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'cause I'm gonna talk about how I present it to students.
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Okay, I'm seeing some nos.
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Okay, mostly yeses, somewhat.
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Okay, yeah, and so we're gonna talk about what Bloom's is.
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It's basically just a hierarchy of learning levels,
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where memorization is at the bottom.
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And then it goes up to understanding,
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to application, analysis, etcetera.
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if they've ever heard a professor say something like,
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this is the university, you're at the university now,
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this is not high school anymore,
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you gotta kick it up a notch, all the hands go up.
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who thinks you can me exactly what those professors
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are talking about when they make that statement?
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Almost nobody can.
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oh, that means that UVM is gonna be harder than high school.
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to spend a lot more time on our courses.
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Sometimes they'll say, we have to take more responsibility
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for our own learning.
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And I say, yeah, that's true,
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but how many of you've ever heard of Bloom's Taxonomy,
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and almost nobody has.
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And so I think Bloom's is so important because I think
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that's the lens through which students have to evaluate
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that statement when we say you've gotta kick it up a notch,
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kick it up a level,
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because if they don't even know levels exist,
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there's no way that they will know how
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to kick it up a notch.
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Oh, there's another question I wanna ask,
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since most of us were familiar with Bloom's,
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for those of us who were familiar,
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have you ever explicitly taught Bloom's,
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and so this will be just
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for the people who said yes or somewhat,
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have you ever explicitly taught Bloom's Taxonomy
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to your students?
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Give me a yes or no on that.
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Okay, I see a couple of yeses,
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but I'm seeing mostly nos.
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Yeah, and I certainly understand the nos,
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because I never taught Bloom's Taxonomy,
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and I never taught it because
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I didn't think that it was for students.
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I learned Bloom's Taxonomy when I was a graduate student
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because my PhD is in chemical education.
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But I learned it as a construct that we
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as faculty could use to target our instruction,
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to target our assessments, I never taught it to students.
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But when I got to LSU, the Center for Academic Success here,
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they were teaching it to students with great success.
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And so I started teaching it to students,
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and the number one reaction I would get from students
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is they would say, wow,
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this is so helpful, why didn't anybody teach me this before?
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I wish I had known about this in high school.
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And so now I teach students to Bloom's
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and it is really transformational for them.
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med school students, dental school students,
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law school students,
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and almost none of them have seen Bloom's.
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And when they see it,
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that's when the flash bulbs go off for them,
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they see exactly what people are talking about
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when we say this is a higher level
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than where you were before.
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And it's your ability to know what you know,
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but you don't know.
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okay, I studied all night,
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I'm good, I know this stuff,
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I know everything, and then you sit down and it's like,
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you look at the first two questions, hmm,
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and this idea of, you know,
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I knew everything before I set down to take the test,
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and then it just flew right out of my head.
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Have you heard that?
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Give me a yes or no.
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Have you heard that from any students?
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Because students tend to think that they, okay,
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I'm seeing yeses, yeah.
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they really believe in their heart of hearts
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that they knew everything and they sat down
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and take the test,
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Laura says, just last week,
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and it flew right out of their head.
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And so when that happens, they think they have what?
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They say, well,
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it just flew right outta my head, so I think I have,
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what do they think they have?
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Because they knew it before they sat down to take the test
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and then they sat down, it flew right out of their head,
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and maybe none of your students have said this,
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but I have students, exactly, Caroline,
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yes, and Kristen,
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test anxiety, they say,
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oh, I have test anxiety.
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Now I don't wanna make light of test anxiety
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because test anxiety is a real phenomenon,
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but most students who think they have test anxiety,
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really don't have test anxiety.
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People who have real test anxiety,
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you will have physiological symptoms,
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you'll have sweaty palms, you'll start to perspire,
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your heart starts to race,
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and this doesn't happen with most students.
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Now they're pretty anxious, alright,
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but they're anxious because they know
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that they haven't mastered the material,
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because when did most of them sit down
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to really study for the test that's coming up?
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Give me that in the chat box?
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Okay, yeah,
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I'm not good at tests, that's another,
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exactly, last night.
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the material 'cause they just started studying
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it last night, and that's the source of the anxiety.
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and teach them that they're really preparing
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for the test throughout the course,
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then that anxiety tamps down and they can do well.
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I can assure you if I had just started to learn this stuff
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that we're talking about today last night,
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I'd be pretty anxious right now.
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And so I think we can help students understand
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the difference between true test anxiety
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and this anxiety that they get because their brain
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knows they're not prepared.
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Okay, I mentioned metacognitive equity,
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and I've written an article on that.
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But equity is related to educational equity,
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looking at that discrepancy in outcomes between
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different groups of students,
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and metacognitive equity involves reducing the discrepancy
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in metacognition or thinking strategies between students
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from low income versus high income,
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well resourced schools versus poorly resourced schools,
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etcetera.
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And I think that the biggest gap in STEM,
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and other things too,
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comes from this gap in metacognitive equity.
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And I noticed that your division of diversity, equity,
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and inclusion has invited all units to do
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this inclusive excellence action plans.
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And CMS has an inclusive excellence action plan.
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And it is a very thorough plan,
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and I think you're in years two to three,
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and I noticed 'cause I was looking to see if there was
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a discrepancy between
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the success of minoritized students versus others,
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and here it is, in our college,
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students from historically underrepresented groups
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have significantly lower retention and graduation rates,
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which vary widely due to the small numbers.
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And it is this information that we're talking about now
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that I think will teach those students
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the metacognitive skills that they need,
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that their peers from more resource schools
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have probably come to UVM with,
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but they don't have these skills.
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And they can learn them,
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it's not that they can't learn them,
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but they haven't learned them before.
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And that's the source of the gap rather
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than any kind of lack of ability or anything like that.
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And the gap comes from the fact that children
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from low income families enter high school
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with lower literacy levels,
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much lower than high school students,
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they have less access to mentors who are gonna model
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these metacognitive thinking skills.
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They're more likely to be less academically challenged,
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they're more likely to come from a school
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where they were the best student in the class,
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but when they take the SAT score, their SATs are,
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you know, 400, 500,
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and they have no idea that they are not
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as prepared as other students,
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and they're more likely to have
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this fixed mindset about intelligence.
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And that's where that self-fulfilling prophecy comes in,
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that Alexandria talks about, yeah,
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I can come from anxiety or I'm just not good at tests,
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and they think that they can't get any better.
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And we'll talk a little bit,
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as you saw, about mindset.
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Well, why is it that so many students
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haven't developed these strategies?
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Well, it just hasn't been necessary before.
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These are data from
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the UCLA Higher Education Research Institute
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who every year surveys first year students,
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I don't think they've done it since 2019,
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I haven't seen any data.
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I don't know if it's because of the pandemic?
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But they ask a lot of questions,
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but I'm particularly interested in the answers to two.
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One is how much time students spent doing any homework
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at all in 12th grade and the grade that they had,
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their average when they graduated from high school,
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and you'll see that in terms of the percent spending
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a minimum of six hours a week on homework,
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that is it hovers between the upper 30s to the low 40s,
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but the percent who graduated from high school
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with an, A average,
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that number crossed 50% in 2013.
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And in 2019, it was almost 60%.
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So what that means is our students are coming to us,
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not having done any work in high school,
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but they graduated with A, or in some cases,
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A+ averages,
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and so they think they're good to go
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and they won't need to do anything different at UVM
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to maintain the kind of academic success
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that they had in high school.
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So I always say that our students
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are really just being good scientists,
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they're just taking all of the data
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that they have accumulated in their 12 years
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before they get to us,
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and they are basing their decisions of how to behave,
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based on those data.
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And those data tell them, you don't need to do any homework,
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you're still gonna make an A in this class.
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And so that's why it's such a rude awakening
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when they get that.
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And I always encourage us to give our first test or a quiz
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within the first two weeks,
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the first quiz within the first week, if possible,
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because students of the caliber who come to UVM,
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they know they're all that and the bag of chips.
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And so they will not know that they're not headed to an A
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or A+ in your class until they get that wake up call.
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And the earlier they get the wake up call,
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the more interested they are in hearing these strategies.
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So it's important to let them know that this is different.
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Now college STEM courses are harder
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than high school courses,
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but the students have never taken
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a STEM college course before,
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so they don't know this to be the case,
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especially those students who've taken AP and IB courses,
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they think they are so ready.
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But you know, the course moves a lot faster,
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more conceptually difficult material,
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more involved problems, less straightforward tests,
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where they have to apply a lot of concepts at once,
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and most students are just not familiar with that.
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Now here's a question,
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and so those of you who were there this morning,
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you'll know the answers to a lot of these questions,
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so please don't put it in the chat box for now.
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But I'm gonna ask everybody else,
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when I worked with students,
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I would ask them to reflect on a lot of questions,
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and this is the important part of the approach that I take.
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00:27:33.890 --> 00:27:36.380
I don't tell students, you need to do this,
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you need to do that, which is what I used to do,
653
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but I don't do that anymore.
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What I do is I ask reflection questions to get students
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to think about their past behavior and to analyze why
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that might not have been working
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and what they need to do in the future?
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And you'll see those as we go through the discussion.
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But I was asking these questions
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because I wanted to get more ideas
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about students' experience,
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and I wanted to give 'em some advice based on
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what I thought I was gonna hear.
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And so the first question I asked is was
665
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what did most of your teachers in high school
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do the class period the day before the test?
667
00:28:13.300 --> 00:28:17.330
So put in the chat box, what you think students said,
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'cause I was not at all, exactly,
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review, that's what they said,
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00:28:20.870 --> 00:28:23.060
review, that's exactly what I was expecting.
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And so then my next question was, okay,
672
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so what did they do during the review?
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And so tell me what, okay,
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so Kristen said, review the material
675
00:28:33.250 --> 00:28:35.420
that would be on the test, okay.
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I'll take a couple of more responses
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and I will see if anybody repeat what they'd already said.
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00:28:41.650 --> 00:28:45.010
Okay, I'll see if anybody I hit the highlights.
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This is so interesting because usually
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when I ask this question at institutions,
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and as you heard, I've spoken at,
682
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you know, about 500 so far,
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00:28:54.610 --> 00:28:57.800
and usually there's at least one, hmm, there it is,
684
00:28:57.800 --> 00:28:59.530
I was gonna say, there's at least one person
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who gets exactly what they do.
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00:29:03.630 --> 00:29:07.100
But this morning nobody said that, but Joanne says,
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they would almost give the test,
688
00:29:09.190 --> 00:29:10.980
and you're actually close,
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00:29:10.980 --> 00:29:12.910
it's worse than that, Joanne.
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00:29:12.910 --> 00:29:15.520
Students told me, which shocked me,
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they told me, well,
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they gave us the test questions
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and we went over the answers.
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Now I was shocked by that, put in the chat box,
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yes or no, if you knew that's
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what was happening in high schools.
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And when I asked that question, at most institutions,
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there will be people who say yes.
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Okay, yeah,
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00:29:34.668 --> 00:29:36.850
so Mary Ellen knew, but I didn't know,
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'cause see, I thought they were gonna say,
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well, they reviewed the information
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and went over outlines or whatever.
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And I was all prepared to say yes,
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but we don't do that at the university,
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00:29:49.260 --> 00:29:51.853
you have to do that yourself.
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But that's not what they said,
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when they told me what they did,
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I said, oh, okay,
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00:29:57.700 --> 00:29:58.550
well, and so then I made up a third question.
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I said, okay,
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well if you'd never gone to class,
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just the day before the test,
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and you went to class that day,
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and you paid really close attention that day,
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00:30:12.822 --> 00:30:15.250
what's the lowest grade you would have made?
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00:30:15.250 --> 00:30:17.940
Oh, okay, actually I gotta respond to this,
718
00:30:17.940 --> 00:30:19.881
yeah, Jim is saddened by this.
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And Jim says, yes,
720
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I was the evil school board member who railed against this.
721
00:30:23.190 --> 00:30:25.240
Yeah, and I'm glad you put that in Joanne,
722
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because I always like to say, it's not teacher's fault.
723
00:30:28.470 --> 00:30:31.680
Teachers have been put in this untenable situation
724
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where their livelihood, I'm gonna say,
725
00:30:35.410 --> 00:30:37.490
whether or not their school is gonna be taken over
726
00:30:37.490 --> 00:30:40.950
by some external force is dependent upon the scores
727
00:30:40.950 --> 00:30:43.770
that their student make on these standardized tests,
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and I'll call them evil.
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00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:47.670
And so a teacher told me once that,
730
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because there's so much riding
731
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on how students perform on these tests,
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that many of them think that if they go over the test
733
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and give 'em the answers the students will do well.
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00:30:56.970 --> 00:30:59.853
But of course we know that that really doesn't happen.
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00:31:00.725 --> 00:31:02.730
And so when yeah, because of funding,
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all kinds of things, and so yep,
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we want you to make up a review sheet,
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00:31:08.184 --> 00:31:10.070
then we're gonna talk about that, so, nope,
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'cause I have some advice about that
740
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that I think satisfies students,
741
00:31:14.430 --> 00:31:15.920
even though you are not gonna make up
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a review sheet for them.
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And so I asked them,
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00:31:20.030 --> 00:31:22.024
well, if you hadn't gone to a class a single day,
745
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except just the day before the test,
746
00:31:24.263 --> 00:31:25.759
and you went to the class that day,
747
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:26.820
and you paid really close attention,
748
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what's the lowest score you would've gotten
749
00:31:28.690 --> 00:31:30.450
on the test that day?
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00:31:30.450 --> 00:31:33.146
And put in the chat box what you think the lowest score
751
00:31:33.146 --> 00:31:35.170
they said they would've gotten
752
00:31:35.170 --> 00:31:39.710
if they skipped every single class except the one?
753
00:31:39.710 --> 00:31:41.860
Okay, so I'm seeing B's,
754
00:31:41.860 --> 00:31:43.240
I'm seeing 50, 75.
755
00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:46.300
It was B, there were a few students who said A,
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00:31:46.300 --> 00:31:50.010
a few students said C, nobody said less than a C.
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00:31:50.010 --> 00:31:51.880
Most of them said B.
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00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:55.180
And so that helped me understand why so many times
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our students didn't do anything until, you know,
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before the first test, because they thought,
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okay, well I'm gonna get the review,
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or at the very least, I'm gonna get a review sheet.
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And somebody already mentioned that students ask
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for a review sheet.
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And so I don't advise giving review sheets,
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but what I advise is having students make their
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own review sheets, because review sheets are very helpful.
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And so we can show students how to make a review sheet
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and tell them that they should make their own review sheet,
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00:32:26.020 --> 00:32:28.230
and you could have them share review sheets
771
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in small groups or whatever.
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But this is very important.
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Okay, Judy says,
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is this attention economy, I guess I'm not surprised.
775
00:32:36.560 --> 00:32:38.110
Yeah, but you know,
776
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the good news is that even though students
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have had these experiences before they get to us,
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we can make a difference here.
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00:32:46.847 --> 00:32:47.680
And that was surprising to me,
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I did not have any idea that I could take a student
781
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who learned almost nothing in high school,
782
00:32:53.110 --> 00:32:54.630
teach them these strategies,
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00:32:54.630 --> 00:32:57.720
and let them know that it starts now.
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It doesn't matter if you never had chemistry,
785
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it doesn't matter if you've always had test anxiety,
786
00:33:02.950 --> 00:33:05.680
it doesn't matter if you didn't learn anything in math,
787
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:07.600
I'm gonna teach you the material,
788
00:33:07.600 --> 00:33:10.120
but also the strategies that you need
789
00:33:10.120 --> 00:33:12.220
in order to be successful.
790
00:33:12.220 --> 00:33:14.499
So basically what we're saying,
791
00:33:14.499 --> 00:33:15.690
that we as faculty have to help students make
792
00:33:15.690 --> 00:33:18.260
that transition from whatever they're doing now
793
00:33:18.260 --> 00:33:21.080
that's not lead leading to the learning and grades
794
00:33:21.080 --> 00:33:23.530
they're seeking, to a productive behavior
795
00:33:23.530 --> 00:33:25.203
that's gonna lead to that.
796
00:33:26.339 --> 00:33:28.900
And so what I wanna do is share with you
797
00:33:28.900 --> 00:33:31.440
some very powerful strategies,
798
00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:36.440
but by way of students who have used those strategies,
799
00:33:37.120 --> 00:33:39.650
I'm pretty sure I hit the sound.
800
00:33:39.650 --> 00:33:41.910
So Holly, if you can't hear anything,
801
00:33:41.910 --> 00:33:44.550
then unmute your Mike and tell me you can't.
802
00:33:44.550 --> 00:33:47.462
But Dana was a student in physics,
803
00:33:47.462 --> 00:33:49.550
she was about to drop out of physics when she made the 54.
804
00:33:49.550 --> 00:33:53.685
And she was an A student from high school.
805
00:33:53.685 --> 00:33:54.518
She was at LSU on
806
00:33:54.518 --> 00:33:57.660
a very prestigious American Physical Society Scholarship,
807
00:33:57.660 --> 00:33:58.590
'cause she'd always wanted to be
808
00:33:58.590 --> 00:34:00.670
a medical physicist since 10th grade,
809
00:34:00.670 --> 00:34:02.870
'cause her mom worked in the MD Anderson Cancer Center
810
00:34:02.870 --> 00:34:04.430
in Houston, she's from Houston,
811
00:34:04.430 --> 00:34:06.410
and she talked with the medical physicist there,
812
00:34:06.410 --> 00:34:08.450
and that's what she wanted to do.
813
00:34:08.450 --> 00:34:11.110
But when she made the 80s, she was alarmed,
814
00:34:11.110 --> 00:34:13.764
because she'd never made anything less than A's
815
00:34:13.764 --> 00:34:15.524
in physics, in high school.
816
00:34:15.524 --> 00:34:16.766
And then when she made the 54,
817
00:34:16.766 --> 00:34:17.853
she was gonna be out of there.
818
00:34:18.700 --> 00:34:20.920
And so I met her at a change your major work shop.
819
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:22.120
I wasn't teaching the workshop,
820
00:34:22.120 --> 00:34:24.160
I just went to see what they tell students
821
00:34:24.160 --> 00:34:25.870
at a change your major workshop.
822
00:34:25.870 --> 00:34:27.060
And I'll never forget this,
823
00:34:27.060 --> 00:34:28.910
the counselor who was teaching, the advisor,
824
00:34:28.910 --> 00:34:30.320
I should say, professional advisor,
825
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:32.030
who was conducting the workshop.
826
00:34:32.030 --> 00:34:35.620
The first thing she did was she asked students
827
00:34:35.620 --> 00:34:38.210
to introduce themselves, tell what they were majoring in,
828
00:34:38.210 --> 00:34:39.620
what they wanted to change to.
829
00:34:39.620 --> 00:34:40.970
And Dana stood up and she said,
830
00:34:40.970 --> 00:34:43.570
well, I'm Dana, I was majoring in physics,
831
00:34:43.570 --> 00:34:45.660
but that's just not working out well.
832
00:34:45.660 --> 00:34:48.960
And the advisor immediately said, oh yes,
833
00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:51.950
I understand because physics is hard.
834
00:34:51.950 --> 00:34:53.390
And she said, just like that,
835
00:34:53.390 --> 00:34:55.940
she said, we'll find you something that you can do.
836
00:34:57.384 --> 00:34:59.270
And so I took note of that,
837
00:34:59.270 --> 00:35:02.070
and as Dana was leaving the room,
838
00:35:02.070 --> 00:35:03.750
I met her at the door and I said, Dana,
839
00:35:03.750 --> 00:35:05.870
do you have about an hour to talk with me in the office?
840
00:35:05.870 --> 00:35:08.330
I said, I'm gonna talk to you
841
00:35:08.330 --> 00:35:09.600
about some learning strategies.
842
00:35:09.600 --> 00:35:10.473
And I said, look,
843
00:35:11.328 --> 00:35:13.240
I'm not gonna try to talk you out of leaving physics
844
00:35:13.240 --> 00:35:15.420
because if you really wanna do something else,
845
00:35:15.420 --> 00:35:17.490
that is absolutely fine with me.
846
00:35:17.490 --> 00:35:19.530
But I want you to know you are leaving physics,
847
00:35:19.530 --> 00:35:21.330
not because you can't do it,
848
00:35:21.330 --> 00:35:23.860
but because you chosen to do something else.
849
00:35:23.860 --> 00:35:25.960
And so she came to my office,
850
00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:29.550
we talked for about an hour and these were her grades after,
851
00:35:29.550 --> 00:35:33.067
she made an A in that physics course 4.0 that semester.
852
00:35:33.067 --> 00:35:36.700
And you will hear from her in her own voice what she did.
853
00:35:36.700 --> 00:35:38.640
But before we had the discussion,
854
00:35:38.640 --> 00:35:40.580
she was memorizing formulas,
855
00:35:40.580 --> 00:35:43.310
and then she was using online homework programs.
856
00:35:43.310 --> 00:35:45.101
And when she told me that, I said, Dana,
857
00:35:45.101 --> 00:35:47.313
that's cheating, you're cheating.
858
00:35:48.503 --> 00:35:49.336
She said, oh no, Dr. McGuire,
859
00:35:49.336 --> 00:35:50.790
she said, I would never cheat,
860
00:35:50.790 --> 00:35:52.920
she said, I'm just using those to get
861
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:55.660
a hint about how to start the problems.
862
00:35:55.660 --> 00:35:57.262
And I said, yeah,
863
00:35:57.262 --> 00:35:58.150
but when you get to the test,
864
00:35:58.150 --> 00:36:01.280
do they give you a hint about how to start the problems?
865
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:05.865
And so she realized that that's what was derailing her.
866
00:36:05.865 --> 00:36:06.910
So then she started solving problems,
867
00:36:06.910 --> 00:36:08.970
not using any external aids.
868
00:36:08.970 --> 00:36:13.420
And so I am going to allow you to hear Dana,
869
00:36:13.420 --> 00:36:15.223
let me turn this all the way up,
870
00:36:16.663 --> 00:36:18.130
and I'm going to, when I hit play,
871
00:36:18.130 --> 00:36:20.130
you may or may not be able to hear her,
872
00:36:20.130 --> 00:36:22.390
with Teams, it seems that some people can hear her
873
00:36:22.390 --> 00:36:24.310
if I hit play, but you may have
874
00:36:24.310 --> 00:36:25.620
to hit the play button yourself.
875
00:36:25.620 --> 00:36:27.760
So I'm gonna tell you when I hit start,
876
00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:30.540
if you don't hear anything within like a couple of seconds,
877
00:36:30.540 --> 00:36:34.660
then hit the start on your slide so that you can hear her,
878
00:36:34.660 --> 00:36:35.500
what she's saying.
879
00:36:35.500 --> 00:36:38.293
So here is Dana now, she's just started.
880
00:36:57.230 --> 00:36:59.560
Okay, I'm gonna stop it because Veronica
881
00:36:59.560 --> 00:37:02.990
says I don't see or hear anything.
882
00:37:02.990 --> 00:37:04.970
Okay, so everybody should be seeing the slide
883
00:37:04.970 --> 00:37:06.810
that has Dana's picture in the middle.
884
00:37:06.810 --> 00:37:08.980
Are you seeing that?
885
00:37:08.980 --> 00:37:10.525
Okay, yeah,
886
00:37:10.525 --> 00:37:13.320
so you gotta click the button on your screen.
887
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:17.600
There's no presentation.
There's no presentation?
888
00:37:17.600 --> 00:37:20.580
That's very interesting.
Oh, it says,
889
00:37:20.580 --> 00:37:23.723
reload to display, maybe it's me.
890
00:37:25.383 --> 00:37:26.507
Hmm.
891
00:37:26.507 --> 00:37:28.069
Okay, is anybody else,
892
00:37:28.069 --> 00:37:29.760
give me a yes or no if you're seeing the slide
893
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:30.700
with Dana's picture?
894
00:37:30.700 --> 00:37:31.533
Okay, yeah,
895
00:37:32.411 --> 00:37:33.244
so I think, yeah,
896
00:37:33.244 --> 00:37:34.393
you've gotta do.
897
00:37:35.964 --> 00:37:37.943
I was able to push the play button in.
898
00:37:37.943 --> 00:37:38.776
Okay, so most people are seeing,
899
00:37:38.776 --> 00:37:40.133
yeah, I'm getting hands up.
900
00:37:41.130 --> 00:37:44.223
Yeah, okay, seeing and hearing fine.
901
00:37:45.330 --> 00:37:47.030
Yeah, so Holly,
902
00:37:47.030 --> 00:37:49.370
if you can tell the people who are not seeing
903
00:37:49.370 --> 00:37:50.360
what they need to do,
904
00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:52.710
'cause I don't know how to tell 'em what to do.
905
00:37:55.220 --> 00:37:57.230
It may be their connection, Saundra,
906
00:37:57.230 --> 00:37:59.910
so if you're still not seeing the slide,
907
00:37:59.910 --> 00:38:02.890
you might wanna leave our meeting and come back
908
00:38:02.890 --> 00:38:04.393
or restart Teams.
909
00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:07.044
Okay, yeah,
910
00:38:07.044 --> 00:38:08.060
and I'm gonna start her again, and again,
911
00:38:08.060 --> 00:38:09.822
if you don't hear anything,
912
00:38:09.822 --> 00:38:11.850
then hit the start button on your screen,
913
00:38:11.850 --> 00:38:13.860
'cause I do hear people saying
914
00:38:13.860 --> 00:38:15.910
that they had to hit the volume button,
915
00:38:15.910 --> 00:38:18.630
so hit that to hear her, but here she goes.
916
00:40:48.988 --> 00:40:50.320
Okay, and Veronica,
917
00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:53.160
I'm sorry, you're still not seeing any thing,
918
00:40:53.160 --> 00:40:55.051
I don't know what's going on.
919
00:40:55.051 --> 00:40:57.670
But Susanmarie said that she is going to transcribe it,
920
00:40:57.670 --> 00:40:58.900
so you'll hear Dana's story.
921
00:40:58.900 --> 00:41:01.570
But I think everybody else was able to hear it.
922
00:41:01.570 --> 00:41:04.470
Now Dana did get a couple of things,
923
00:41:04.470 --> 00:41:05.960
well, you might get the wrong impression,
924
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:08.000
she said that we worked together the whole semester,
925
00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:13.000
which is true, but I only spent one session talking
926
00:41:13.740 --> 00:41:16.270
with her about learning strategies, I became her mentor,
927
00:41:16.270 --> 00:41:18.270
and so we did work together,
928
00:41:18.270 --> 00:41:19.910
but not with the learning strategies.
929
00:41:19.910 --> 00:41:22.540
When she got the information and she started implementing
930
00:41:22.540 --> 00:41:25.000
the strategies, then she was on her way.
931
00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:26.560
And that's what I find,
932
00:41:26.560 --> 00:41:28.840
it happens with these strategies for
933
00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:31.290
the types of students that you have at UVM,
934
00:41:31.290 --> 00:41:32.900
they haven't thought about this,
935
00:41:32.900 --> 00:41:35.500
it's a whole new paradigm for them.
936
00:41:35.500 --> 00:41:38.360
And when they understand how it works,
937
00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:41.320
then they implement it and it makes a lot of difference.
938
00:41:41.320 --> 00:41:44.250
Now the other thing she said was I'm phenomenal.
939
00:41:44.250 --> 00:41:47.740
I'm not phenomenal, it's the strategies that are phenomenal.
940
00:41:47.740 --> 00:41:48.590
She said, you know,
941
00:41:48.590 --> 00:41:52.090
she has the golden ticket and the strategies really are
942
00:41:52.090 --> 00:41:54.050
what consider the golden ticket
943
00:41:54.050 --> 00:41:56.100
because it just makes so much difference.
944
00:41:56.100 --> 00:42:00.880
Now the strategy that I find is so important
945
00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:03.310
for STEM students, especially,
946
00:42:03.310 --> 00:42:06.720
is the problem with what they're doing
947
00:42:06.720 --> 00:42:08.720
is they're doing the homework all wrong.
948
00:42:08.720 --> 00:42:10.080
Put in the chat box for me, please,
949
00:42:10.080 --> 00:42:12.270
if you've ever had a student
950
00:42:12.270 --> 00:42:15.400
who does really well on the homework,
951
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:18.703
but then they don't do well on the test, have you seen that?
952
00:42:21.479 --> 00:42:23.069
Okay, yeah,
953
00:42:23.069 --> 00:42:24.544
oh, and the session is being recorded, Veronica,
954
00:42:24.544 --> 00:42:26.359
so if you can't see or hear anything,
955
00:42:26.359 --> 00:42:29.680
then you probably could spend better, you know,
956
00:42:29.680 --> 00:42:32.640
your time and then watch the recording, I don't know.
957
00:42:32.640 --> 00:42:34.940
I just feel bad that you can't see yet,
958
00:42:36.404 --> 00:42:37.902
but yeah, all the time.
959
00:42:37.902 --> 00:42:39.160
And so the reason is because
960
00:42:39.160 --> 00:42:40.750
they're doing the homework the wrong way.
961
00:42:40.750 --> 00:42:42.500
And so I'm gonna ask you to think back
962
00:42:42.500 --> 00:42:45.240
to the last time you were doing any homework at all.
963
00:42:45.240 --> 00:42:47.940
And if you ever did this, put yes in the chat box,
964
00:42:47.940 --> 00:42:49.853
if you never did it, put no.
965
00:42:51.259 --> 00:42:55.010
Do you ever remember reading a problem that you had to work
966
00:42:55.010 --> 00:42:57.510
or reading a question that you had to answer,
967
00:42:57.510 --> 00:42:59.830
and then flipping back in the chapter
968
00:42:59.830 --> 00:43:03.150
to find an example of the problem you had to work
969
00:43:03.150 --> 00:43:06.140
or a discussion of the question you had to answer,
970
00:43:06.140 --> 00:43:07.693
did you ever do that?
971
00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:10.550
And I'm seeing some yeses already.
972
00:43:10.550 --> 00:43:12.000
Yeah, and so I ask students this
973
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:13.860
and they all say absolutely, yes.
974
00:43:13.860 --> 00:43:16.400
And I tell 'em, unfortunately I did that too,
975
00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:18.880
because I didn't have a me telling me that
976
00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:19.840
that wasn't gonna work.
977
00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:22.550
And so they all did it, and so I said,
978
00:43:22.550 --> 00:43:24.830
now when we did this, I include myself,
979
00:43:24.830 --> 00:43:26.502
'cause I tell 'em I did it,
980
00:43:26.502 --> 00:43:27.380
I said, when we did this,
981
00:43:27.380 --> 00:43:29.680
were we working the problem?
982
00:43:29.680 --> 00:43:32.410
Was our brain working the problem?
983
00:43:32.410 --> 00:43:34.100
And I'll ask you, when we did that,
984
00:43:34.100 --> 00:43:35.933
was our brain working the problem?
985
00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:39.100
Give me a yes or no?
986
00:43:39.100 --> 00:43:40.250
Yeah, and students say,
987
00:43:41.084 --> 00:43:42.082
no, absolutely.
988
00:43:42.082 --> 00:43:43.243
And then I'll say,
989
00:43:43.243 --> 00:43:44.076
well, what was working the problem?
990
00:43:44.076 --> 00:43:45.030
'Cause they'll tell me no, yeah,
991
00:43:45.030 --> 00:43:46.701
our brains weren't.
992
00:43:46.701 --> 00:43:48.420
So what was working the problem?
993
00:43:48.420 --> 00:43:50.600
Put that in the chat box for me, please.
994
00:43:50.600 --> 00:43:51.900
And students are, you know,
995
00:43:51.900 --> 00:43:54.143
they get it immediately.
996
00:43:56.120 --> 00:43:57.830
Exactly, the textbook,
997
00:43:57.830 --> 00:43:59.170
sometimes they'll say the textbook,
998
00:43:59.170 --> 00:44:00.540
sometimes they'll say the author,
999
00:44:00.540 --> 00:44:03.340
sometimes they'll say the example, but absolutely.
1000
00:44:03.340 --> 00:44:04.989
And I said, yeah,
1001
00:44:04.989 --> 00:44:06.950
and you're really, really smart people.
1002
00:44:06.950 --> 00:44:08.090
Although I may say that,
1003
00:44:08.090 --> 00:44:09.880
although I don't really believe in the concept
1004
00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:12.470
that some people are smart and some people aren't anymore.
1005
00:44:12.470 --> 00:44:14.240
But you know, I say you're really,
1006
00:44:14.240 --> 00:44:16.530
really smart people, I was very smart,
1007
00:44:16.530 --> 00:44:18.710
how many of you remember thinking when you looked
1008
00:44:18.710 --> 00:44:20.400
at the way the example was worked
1009
00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:22.840
or the question was answered thinking,
1010
00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:24.210
oh yeah, I got that,
1011
00:44:24.210 --> 00:44:25.321
oh yeah, I understand that?
1012
00:44:25.321 --> 00:44:27.860
And all the hands go up.
1013
00:44:27.860 --> 00:44:28.693
They said, yeah,
1014
00:44:28.693 --> 00:44:29.836
I thought the same thing,
1015
00:44:29.836 --> 00:44:31.657
but when we got to the test or quiz,
1016
00:44:31.657 --> 00:44:33.910
if they changed anything at all around a little bit,
1017
00:44:33.910 --> 00:44:34.860
then what happened?
1018
00:44:35.894 --> 00:44:37.200
And then sometimes they'll shake their head.
1019
00:44:37.200 --> 00:44:39.550
One young man said, oops, I don't got that.
1020
00:44:39.550 --> 00:44:43.610
And so the homework strategy that so many of our students
1021
00:44:43.610 --> 00:44:45.716
have said makes a difference,
1022
00:44:45.716 --> 00:44:46.710
and this is actually the one thing,
1023
00:44:46.710 --> 00:44:48.000
most of this stuff we're talking about
1024
00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:49.960
I did not know when I was at Cornell,
1025
00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:52.540
but this is the one thing that I did learn.
1026
00:44:52.540 --> 00:44:55.760
The number one reason that my students in general chemistry,
1027
00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:59.740
organic chemistry were making C's, D's, F's,
1028
00:45:00.700 --> 00:45:02.600
or okay, hi Linda, go Big Red.
1029
00:45:02.600 --> 00:45:04.940
Yeah, on the exams that they could
1030
00:45:04.940 --> 00:45:07.390
have been making A's and B's was because of that.
1031
00:45:07.390 --> 00:45:10.580
And when they stopped that one practice and implemented
1032
00:45:10.580 --> 00:45:12.780
what we were talking now, they turned it around.
1033
00:45:12.780 --> 00:45:14.590
So you gotta study the material first
1034
00:45:14.590 --> 00:45:17.220
before you look at the first problem or question,
1035
00:45:17.220 --> 00:45:20.440
and then when you get to an example,
1036
00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:22.430
just read the problem statement.
1037
00:45:22.430 --> 00:45:24.520
And if you've studied the information,
1038
00:45:24.520 --> 00:45:27.680
then you will be able to work the problem,
1039
00:45:27.680 --> 00:45:29.761
at least you'll be able to start it.
1040
00:45:29.761 --> 00:45:30.990
And so when you get to the example,
1041
00:45:30.990 --> 00:45:33.793
work the problem until you get to an answer.
1042
00:45:37.540 --> 00:45:38.980
And in fact, even if you don't know exactly what to do next,
1043
00:45:38.980 --> 00:45:42.430
just power your way through until you get to an answer,
1044
00:45:42.430 --> 00:45:44.070
pretend it's a multiple choice question,
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00:45:44.070 --> 00:45:46.254
you gotta come up with an answer.
1046
00:45:46.254 --> 00:45:47.087
And then when you get the answer,
1047
00:45:47.087 --> 00:45:49.280
compare that answer with the answer in the book.
1048
00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:50.830
If you got the same answer,
1049
00:45:50.830 --> 00:45:52.950
then you can look at what author did.
1050
00:45:52.950 --> 00:45:55.400
If you didn't get the same answer, don't look yet,
1051
00:45:55.400 --> 00:45:58.280
try to figure out where your mistake was.
1052
00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:01.150
And I asked students at this point in the process,
1053
00:46:01.150 --> 00:46:04.510
do you think making a mistake is good or bad?
1054
00:46:04.510 --> 00:46:07.610
And so I want only the people who haven't read the book
1055
00:46:07.610 --> 00:46:09.610
or who were not in the first session
1056
00:46:09.610 --> 00:46:11.430
or at any other presentations,
1057
00:46:11.430 --> 00:46:12.820
'cause you'll know the answer,
1058
00:46:12.820 --> 00:46:14.250
but only other people say,
1059
00:46:14.250 --> 00:46:16.960
do students say that making a mistake
1060
00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:19.453
at this point is good or bad?
1061
00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:23.243
What do you think students say about making
1062
00:46:23.243 --> 00:46:24.853
a mistake at this point?
1063
00:46:26.990 --> 00:46:30.010
Okay, and so I'm seeing mostly bads,
1064
00:46:30.010 --> 00:46:33.310
and I saw two goods early on,
1065
00:46:33.310 --> 00:46:35.197
and it was, I think,
1066
00:46:35.197 --> 00:46:36.357
Mary Ellen and Janet.
1067
00:46:38.022 --> 00:46:40.820
So Mary Ellen and Janet, please unmute your mic.
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00:46:40.820 --> 00:46:45.240
Had you read the book or seen this at all before?
1069
00:46:45.240 --> 00:46:47.540
No, this is Janet.
No?
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00:46:47.540 --> 00:46:50.197
I haven't.
And I'm Mary Ellen,
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00:46:51.577 --> 00:46:53.260
and I haven't.
But I figured when you
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00:46:53.260 --> 00:46:54.816
doing homework.
Mary Ellen,
1073
00:46:54.816 --> 00:46:57.120
hold on one second and Janet's gonna finish.
1074
00:46:57.120 --> 00:46:58.158
Go ahead, Janet.
1075
00:46:58.158 --> 00:46:59.483
Yeah, when you're doing home work,
1076
00:46:59.483 --> 00:47:00.800
that's the time to make the mistake,
1077
00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:04.342
instead of on the exam or the quiz.
1078
00:47:04.342 --> 00:47:05.601
Yeah, and the question was,
1079
00:47:05.601 --> 00:47:07.490
'cause this happened this morning and somebody put good,
1080
00:47:07.490 --> 00:47:08.990
but he said, I put good
1081
00:47:08.990 --> 00:47:11.363
before I realized that you were asking,
1082
00:47:13.029 --> 00:47:14.370
would students say making a mistake at this point
1083
00:47:14.370 --> 00:47:15.493
is good or bad.
1084
00:47:16.921 --> 00:47:20.320
And so would you that students would say making a mistake
1085
00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:23.163
is good or would students say making a mistake is bad?
1086
00:47:26.205 --> 00:47:29.030
I guess it depends on the age,
1087
00:47:29.030 --> 00:47:31.010
but I guess most of them would say bad,
1088
00:47:31.010 --> 00:47:34.221
because they never wanna make a mistake, right?
1089
00:47:34.221 --> 00:47:36.003
Okay, and thank you,
1090
00:47:36.003 --> 00:47:36.836
and so that's Janet.
1091
00:47:36.836 --> 00:47:38.550
So Mary Ellen, what were you gonna say?
1092
00:47:39.742 --> 00:47:40.880
I was gonna say that, you know,
1093
00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:44.540
according to like Carol Dweck's work and Joe Bowler's work,
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00:47:44.540 --> 00:47:46.640
mistakes are when you learn.
1095
00:47:46.640 --> 00:47:47.513
Well, yes,
1096
00:47:48.650 --> 00:47:51.663
and so do you think students would say good or bad?
1097
00:47:52.550 --> 00:47:55.020
My students would've said good
1098
00:47:55.020 --> 00:47:56.540
Excellent.
Because I taught them
1099
00:47:56.540 --> 00:48:00.140
that the only way you learn is when you make mistakes.
1100
00:48:00.140 --> 00:48:03.290
Fantastic, and what do you teach, Susanmarie?
1101
00:48:03.290 --> 00:48:06.290
I was a math teacher for about 20 years.
1102
00:48:06.290 --> 00:48:07.420
That's right, okay,
1103
00:48:07.420 --> 00:48:11.560
yes, oh, but you're my CTL director, right?
1104
00:48:11.560 --> 00:48:14.684
Well, I work in the education department
1105
00:48:14.684 --> 00:48:15.682
now at UVM.
Oh, okay,
1106
00:48:15.682 --> 00:48:16.802
gotcha, okay,
1107
00:48:16.802 --> 00:48:19.930
yeah, and so I wanted to do that
1108
00:48:19.930 --> 00:48:23.269
because most faculty say bad and very few faculty say good,
1109
00:48:23.269 --> 00:48:25.693
I always like to know why faculty said good.
1110
00:48:26.780 --> 00:48:29.060
But students always say good.
1111
00:48:29.060 --> 00:48:31.970
Most faculty groups always say bad
1112
00:48:33.076 --> 00:48:34.220
and students say good and I'll tell 'em,
1113
00:48:34.220 --> 00:48:35.865
yep, you're right.
1114
00:48:35.865 --> 00:48:37.722
And I said, but don't get me wrong,
1115
00:48:37.722 --> 00:48:38.721
I'm not saying it's bad
1116
00:48:38.721 --> 00:48:39.554
if you don't make a mistake at this point,
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00:48:39.554 --> 00:48:42.390
it's fantastic if you don't make a mistake at this point.
1118
00:48:42.390 --> 00:48:44.940
But why is it good if you make a mistake at this point?
1119
00:48:44.940 --> 00:48:47.130
And they say exactly what we've just heard,
1120
00:48:47.130 --> 00:48:48.070
they'll say, well,
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00:48:48.070 --> 00:48:50.180
you learn from your mistakes is the number one answer
1122
00:48:50.180 --> 00:48:51.193
I get from students.
1123
00:48:52.061 --> 00:48:53.160
And then the second thing they say is, well,
1124
00:48:53.160 --> 00:48:56.950
now I know where my brain has a tendency to go wrong.
1125
00:48:56.950 --> 00:49:00.130
And then the third thing they'll say is, it's not the test,
1126
00:49:00.130 --> 00:49:03.000
and you can correct it before you get to the test,
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00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:04.920
which then gives me the opportunity
1128
00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:06.833
to ask this question to students.
1129
00:49:07.758 --> 00:49:09.120
And I'll ask students,
1130
00:49:09.120 --> 00:49:10.770
have you ever gotten a test or a quiz back,
1131
00:49:10.770 --> 00:49:12.880
and you looked at it and you saw your mistakes and you said,
1132
00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:15.240
ah, I made so many simple mistakes,
1133
00:49:15.240 --> 00:49:16.790
I would've done so much better,
1134
00:49:18.026 --> 00:49:18.859
but I just made simple mistakes.
1135
00:49:20.358 --> 00:49:21.863
Have you ever heard a student say that?
1136
00:49:21.863 --> 00:49:22.696
You know, oh,
1137
00:49:22.696 --> 00:49:25.303
I just made so many careless mistakes on this test.
1138
00:49:27.090 --> 00:49:28.330
Oh, I have new messages,
1139
00:49:28.330 --> 00:49:32.125
that's right, 'cause I scrolled up and you are answering me.
1140
00:49:32.125 --> 00:49:33.690
Okay, yes, I see the yeses.
1141
00:49:33.690 --> 00:49:36.210
Yeah, and so that's what students think,
1142
00:49:36.210 --> 00:49:37.330
and I tell 'em yeah, you know,
1143
00:49:37.330 --> 00:49:39.410
I used to think the same thing, that I made simple mistakes.
1144
00:49:39.410 --> 00:49:41.580
But I say now my philosophy
1145
00:49:41.580 --> 00:49:45.060
is that there's no such thing as just simple mistakes.
1146
00:49:45.060 --> 00:49:48.950
Said, mistakes only look simple in retrospect.
1147
00:49:48.950 --> 00:49:51.550
Once you know what the right thing is,
1148
00:49:51.550 --> 00:49:53.550
your mistake looks so simple,
1149
00:49:53.550 --> 00:49:56.360
but mistakes are things that have to be made.
1150
00:49:56.360 --> 00:49:58.510
And I'll ask students either you're gonna make 'em
1151
00:49:58.510 --> 00:50:01.920
during this process or where are you going to make them?
1152
00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:03.160
And put in the chat box
1153
00:50:03.160 --> 00:50:06.611
what you think they tell me when I say mistakes,
1154
00:50:06.611 --> 00:50:08.760
they have to be made.
1155
00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:09.990
And someone said, you know,
1156
00:50:09.990 --> 00:50:11.450
that they tell students that, you know,
1157
00:50:11.450 --> 00:50:13.400
mistakes are good.
1158
00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:16.760
There's a term fail forward, 'cause you learn from those.
1159
00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:18.223
Yeah, on the exam,
1160
00:50:19.567 --> 00:50:20.400
that students will say on the exam.
1161
00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:21.640
And so the good news is,
1162
00:50:21.640 --> 00:50:24.260
I'm not telling them, you better do this
1163
00:50:24.260 --> 00:50:26.100
or you're gonna screw up on the test.
1164
00:50:26.100 --> 00:50:29.465
They're telling me that if they don't do this,
1165
00:50:29.465 --> 00:50:30.846
they're gonna make the mistake on the test.
1166
00:50:30.846 --> 00:50:32.147
And this is, I've learned,
1167
00:50:32.147 --> 00:50:33.923
a crucial part of this approach.
1168
00:50:34.805 --> 00:50:38.110
The less we tell students and the more we ask them questions
1169
00:50:38.110 --> 00:50:40.330
so that they give us the information
1170
00:50:40.330 --> 00:50:41.890
that we would've told them,
1171
00:50:41.890 --> 00:50:43.770
the more likely that that's gonna stick
1172
00:50:43.770 --> 00:50:45.360
and they're gonna do something with it.
1173
00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:46.970
So check to see if it's correct, if it's not,
1174
00:50:46.970 --> 00:50:48.670
figure out where your mistake was,
1175
00:50:49.544 --> 00:50:50.377
and that's just the examples.
1176
00:50:50.377 --> 00:50:52.430
When they get to the actual homework problems,
1177
00:50:52.430 --> 00:50:54.440
they tell 'em, treat it as if it's a test or a quiz,
1178
00:50:54.440 --> 00:50:56.820
and you heard Dana say she was doing that,
1179
00:50:56.820 --> 00:50:59.070
work two or three problems, try to speed it up,
1180
00:50:59.070 --> 00:51:00.570
work it a little bit more quickly,
1181
00:51:00.570 --> 00:51:02.425
because that's what you're gonna have to do
1182
00:51:02.425 --> 00:51:05.380
on a test or a quiz, because many students lose points
1183
00:51:05.380 --> 00:51:06.863
because they don't finish.
1184
00:51:08.161 --> 00:51:09.270
And they don't finish because
1185
00:51:09.270 --> 00:51:11.540
they are not trying to go faster,
1186
00:51:11.540 --> 00:51:16.540
they're slowly and carefully plotting through everything
1187
00:51:16.580 --> 00:51:17.830
like they did on homework,
1188
00:51:17.830 --> 00:51:19.780
'cause there are no time constraints on homework.
1189
00:51:19.780 --> 00:51:22.110
But they can practice speeding it up
1190
00:51:22.110 --> 00:51:23.923
and it makes a big difference.
1191
00:51:25.005 --> 00:51:28.077
And so I also like to share with my STEM students
1192
00:51:28.077 --> 00:51:30.280
and really in all students, I ask them,
1193
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:32.400
is this resource the culprit?
1194
00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:34.470
And Chegg, and when I'm talking to students,
1195
00:51:34.470 --> 00:51:36.129
I ask them, I say,
1196
00:51:36.129 --> 00:51:36.962
I'm not asking about you,
1197
00:51:36.962 --> 00:51:39.970
I'm just asking about a friend, about your friends,
1198
00:51:39.970 --> 00:51:43.600
how many of you have friends who use this Chegg?
1199
00:51:43.600 --> 00:51:46.200
And so sometimes they'll do a laughing thing
1200
00:51:46.200 --> 00:51:47.920
and they'll put, yes.
1201
00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:49.770
And then, you know,
1202
00:51:49.770 --> 00:51:53.210
'cause Chegg has the solutions for everything in the book,
1203
00:51:53.210 --> 00:51:55.890
and 94% of Chegg customers get better grades,
1204
00:51:55.890 --> 00:51:57.843
well I guess so 'cause they're acing all the homeworks,
1205
00:51:58.940 --> 00:52:00.460
but then I hope students understand
1206
00:52:00.460 --> 00:52:04.570
that they can learn this information, they don't need Chegg,
1207
00:52:04.570 --> 00:52:06.260
and if they take this approach,
1208
00:52:06.260 --> 00:52:08.604
then they'll be able to learn it.
1209
00:52:08.604 --> 00:52:10.230
And the other thing found is that students
1210
00:52:10.230 --> 00:52:13.340
really appreciate motive.
1211
00:52:13.340 --> 00:52:15.730
And when I tell them that I'm teaching you this
1212
00:52:15.730 --> 00:52:19.670
because when you get out into the real world, you're STEM,
1213
00:52:19.670 --> 00:52:21.566
so you probably have a lot of students
1214
00:52:21.566 --> 00:52:22.680
who are interested in graduate school,
1215
00:52:22.680 --> 00:52:25.690
or health professions, or the things like that.
1216
00:52:25.690 --> 00:52:29.210
When you get out on the job, in professional school,
1217
00:52:29.210 --> 00:52:31.388
you have to know something.
1218
00:52:31.388 --> 00:52:34.650
And so Chegg is not going to cut it
1219
00:52:34.650 --> 00:52:37.310
and you can learn this, so you don't need Chegg,
1220
00:52:37.310 --> 00:52:38.823
but that is a culprit.
1221
00:52:39.690 --> 00:52:44.690
Now the next strategy is a reading strategy that I taught
1222
00:52:44.910 --> 00:52:48.563
this young man who had made a 47, 52 on the first two tests.
1223
00:52:49.482 --> 00:52:51.630
And then talked with him 30 minutes by phone
1224
00:52:51.630 --> 00:52:53.760
the night before the third test, 82,
1225
00:52:53.760 --> 00:52:56.020
then 86 on the next one.
1226
00:52:56.020 --> 00:52:58.200
So I took him out to lunch and I said, Travis,
1227
00:52:58.200 --> 00:53:00.123
what are you doing?
1228
00:53:00.123 --> 00:53:01.980
And he said, I'm just doing this stuff you told me to do.
1229
00:53:01.980 --> 00:53:04.040
And with Travis, he was having trouble,
1230
00:53:04.040 --> 00:53:05.640
he was doing the reading, he said,
1231
00:53:05.640 --> 00:53:09.110
but he wasn't retaining what he had read.
1232
00:53:09.110 --> 00:53:10.510
And when he got to the test,
1233
00:53:11.469 --> 00:53:13.967
he would recognize the terminology,
1234
00:53:13.967 --> 00:53:16.510
but he didn't actually remember what he'd read.
1235
00:53:16.510 --> 00:53:19.470
And so the strategy that I taught him,
1236
00:53:19.470 --> 00:53:23.000
this is kind of a summary of it, it's called SQ5R.
1237
00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:25.470
But the first thing is to preview the reading
1238
00:53:25.470 --> 00:53:28.130
before you start to read so you can get a big picture,
1239
00:53:28.130 --> 00:53:30.380
and then come up with questions that you want
1240
00:53:31.540 --> 00:53:33.061
the reading to answer for you.
1241
00:53:33.061 --> 00:53:36.590
So for example, if I were reading a chapter in chemistry
1242
00:53:36.590 --> 00:53:39.580
on acid and bases, I would see strong acid,
1243
00:53:39.580 --> 00:53:41.750
weak acid, strong base, weak base,
1244
00:53:41.750 --> 00:53:44.214
either in bold face printer or italicized words.
1245
00:53:44.214 --> 00:53:45.714
And so then I would say, well,
1246
00:53:46.603 --> 00:53:48.287
I wonder what this thing is gonna say is the difference
1247
00:53:48.287 --> 00:53:49.820
between strong acids and weak acids,
1248
00:53:49.820 --> 00:53:51.970
does one burn you more than another?
1249
00:53:51.970 --> 00:53:55.490
So I've created my own interest in the reading,
1250
00:53:55.490 --> 00:53:57.848
and then when you start to read,
1251
00:53:57.848 --> 00:53:59.270
just read the first paragraph, stop,
1252
00:53:59.270 --> 00:54:01.480
put that information in your own words,
1253
00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:03.470
and then read the second paragraph, stop,
1254
00:54:03.470 --> 00:54:05.140
put that information in your own words,
1255
00:54:05.140 --> 00:54:07.560
trying to fold in what was in the paragraph before,
1256
00:54:07.560 --> 00:54:10.250
and read subsequent paragraphs the same way.
1257
00:54:10.250 --> 00:54:11.690
And when I teach this to students,
1258
00:54:11.690 --> 00:54:15.070
I always stop at this point and I say,
1259
00:54:15.070 --> 00:54:17.650
does it sound like, and I'm gonna ask you this question,
1260
00:54:17.650 --> 00:54:20.880
does it sound like if I gotta do all of that,
1261
00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:24.250
it's gonna take a long time to finish the reading?
1262
00:54:24.250 --> 00:54:25.950
So put yes or no in the chat box,
1263
00:54:25.950 --> 00:54:29.100
does it sound like if I use this,
1264
00:54:29.100 --> 00:54:32.093
compared to what I was doing before to do my reading,
1265
00:54:32.940 --> 00:54:33.980
it's gonna take a long time?
1266
00:54:33.980 --> 00:54:36.040
Yeah, and all the students say yes.
1267
00:54:36.040 --> 00:54:37.770
And so I tell them that,
1268
00:54:37.770 --> 00:54:39.380
yeah, it sounds like it,
1269
00:54:39.380 --> 00:54:41.053
but students love this.
1270
00:54:41.942 --> 00:54:44.160
I've had a lot of students who come back and they say,
1271
00:54:44.160 --> 00:54:46.890
Dr. McGuire, I love that reading strategy,
1272
00:54:46.890 --> 00:54:49.420
I'm getting so much more out of my reading now.
1273
00:54:49.420 --> 00:54:51.730
And then I say, oh, that's fantastic,
1274
00:54:51.730 --> 00:54:56.730
is it taking you longer to do your reading now than before?
1275
00:54:56.910 --> 00:54:58.260
And to a person, they say,
1276
00:54:58.260 --> 00:55:01.270
well, no, actually I finished the reading sooner,
1277
00:55:01.270 --> 00:55:04.971
doing it this way than what I did before.
1278
00:55:04.971 --> 00:55:05.804
And so you might not get this,
1279
00:55:05.804 --> 00:55:08.620
'cause I didn't set it up as complete as I do for students,
1280
00:55:08.620 --> 00:55:10.000
but I'm gonna ask you,
1281
00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:13.640
why do you think it would take less time to finish
1282
00:55:13.640 --> 00:55:16.390
the reading going through all of these steps
1283
00:55:16.390 --> 00:55:18.600
than what they were doing before?
1284
00:55:18.600 --> 00:55:19.500
What do you think?
1285
00:55:23.110 --> 00:55:26.770
And again, you might not get it because I didn't set it up.
1286
00:55:26.770 --> 00:55:27.650
Okay, yes,
1287
00:55:27.650 --> 00:55:29.424
you got it, yep,
1288
00:55:29.424 --> 00:55:30.257
those are the top two,
1289
00:55:30.257 --> 00:55:32.330
students say you don't have to reread,
1290
00:55:32.330 --> 00:55:35.700
and now you are interested and your focusing, yes.
1291
00:55:35.700 --> 00:55:38.500
Because with the old way you would read a little bit,
1292
00:55:38.500 --> 00:55:40.500
but your mind would wander and you'd have to go back.
1293
00:55:40.500 --> 00:55:41.680
Read, go back, read, go back,
1294
00:55:41.680 --> 00:55:42.513
read, go back.
1295
00:55:43.425 --> 00:55:44.424
With the new way,
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you are moving more slowly through the reading,
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00:55:46.140 --> 00:55:48.000
but you get to the end point sooner,
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00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:50.130
'cause you're not doing all that back and forth.
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00:55:50.130 --> 00:55:53.870
And the other neat thing about this is you actually speed up
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00:55:53.870 --> 00:55:54.860
as you go along.
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00:55:54.860 --> 00:55:58.270
Because when you get to the 11th paragraph,
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00:55:58.270 --> 00:55:59.890
you can imagine how much faster
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00:55:59.890 --> 00:56:01.966
you're gonna be able to read it
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00:56:01.966 --> 00:56:03.080
if you've understood everything
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00:56:03.080 --> 00:56:05.705
that was in the first 10 paragraphs.
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00:56:05.705 --> 00:56:07.690
And so it makes a huge difference.
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00:56:07.690 --> 00:56:10.860
And so this is the summary of it, do that survey,
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00:56:10.860 --> 00:56:14.010
come up with questions, and read the paragraph at a time
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00:56:14.010 --> 00:56:15.560
where you are recording, I'm sorry,
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00:56:15.560 --> 00:56:17.143
you're reciting to yourself.
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00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:20.780
You can teach 'em how to record or annotate in the margin.
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00:56:20.780 --> 00:56:22.490
And then the next R is for review,
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00:56:22.490 --> 00:56:24.290
when you get to the end of a section,
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00:56:24.290 --> 00:56:26.390
you can review what just happened in that section.
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00:56:26.390 --> 00:56:28.270
And then the last R is for reflect,
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00:56:28.270 --> 00:56:30.113
are there any other views?
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00:56:31.268 --> 00:56:34.230
Is there anything that got your attention?
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00:56:34.230 --> 00:56:38.630
For STEM courses, maybe did the author do the problem
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00:56:38.630 --> 00:56:41.684
a different way than you would've done it?
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00:56:41.684 --> 00:56:43.130
Because we all know that there's lots of different ways
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00:56:43.130 --> 00:56:45.380
that you can do problems in STEM.
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00:56:45.380 --> 00:56:49.640
And if that was the case, then what's the relationship
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00:56:49.640 --> 00:56:52.870
between the way you did it and the way the author did it,
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00:56:52.870 --> 00:56:55.220
or if you were gonna write the author
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00:56:55.220 --> 00:56:57.720
and ask them to rewrite a certain section,
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00:56:57.720 --> 00:57:00.250
because it wasn't as clear to you as you would like,
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00:57:00.250 --> 00:57:01.590
what section would that be?
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00:57:01.590 --> 00:57:05.270
So just having them reflect on the information,
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00:57:05.270 --> 00:57:06.733
it's called active reading,
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00:57:07.821 --> 00:57:10.900
and that has made such a difference with so many students.
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00:57:10.900 --> 00:57:12.990
And so now what I'm gonna do
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00:57:12.990 --> 00:57:16.421
is I'm going to put a passage on the screen,
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00:57:16.421 --> 00:57:17.823
and I'm going to give you a few minutes to read it.
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00:57:17.823 --> 00:57:21.000
Then I'm gonna take it off the screen and ask a question.
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00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:23.820
And the question will only be for people
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00:57:23.820 --> 00:57:26.810
who were not in the first session this morning.
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00:57:26.810 --> 00:57:28.923
So let's read this.
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00:58:00.170 --> 00:58:01.820
Okay, you may not have finished the whole thing,
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00:58:01.820 --> 00:58:04.199
but I will take it off the screen.
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00:58:04.199 --> 00:58:05.500
And so for people who are not there this morning,
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00:58:05.500 --> 00:58:07.481
give me a yes or no in the chat box,
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00:58:07.481 --> 00:58:10.410
could you do this, if I asked you to unmute your mic,
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00:58:10.410 --> 00:58:14.170
and summarize the information in that slide to the group,
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00:58:14.170 --> 00:58:16.423
would you be able to do that, do you think?
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00:58:19.750 --> 00:58:22.620
Now look for a couple of responses, okay,
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00:58:22.620 --> 00:58:24.010
I'm seeing some nos.
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00:58:24.010 --> 00:58:26.780
Yeah, I certainly would not have.
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00:58:26.780 --> 00:58:28.163
Okay, but let me ask this,
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00:58:29.195 --> 00:58:30.770
if you had known before you started to read
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00:58:30.770 --> 00:58:33.800
that this passage was about flying a kite,
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00:58:33.800 --> 00:58:38.800
now I want you to reread that and let me know if it makes
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00:58:40.170 --> 00:58:42.420
a lot more sense to you now
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00:58:42.420 --> 00:58:44.803
that you know it's about flying a kite?
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00:58:51.070 --> 00:58:52.500
Okay, and I'm seeing some yeses,
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00:58:52.500 --> 00:58:54.440
and I've kinda asked Alexandria,
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00:58:54.440 --> 00:58:56.890
because you said you could have given a general idea.
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00:58:56.890 --> 00:58:58.370
Alexandria, did you know that
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00:58:58.370 --> 00:59:00.570
it was about flying a kite when you read it?
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00:59:02.477 --> 00:59:03.890
No, I had idea.
Okay.
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00:59:03.890 --> 00:59:07.410
But I'm also one of those people blessed
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00:59:09.632 --> 00:59:11.510
or cursed with, I did a lot of speech in theater
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00:59:11.510 --> 00:59:14.030
as a younger person.
Got you.
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00:59:14.030 --> 00:59:15.297
And then, so.
Right.
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00:59:16.370 --> 00:59:18.280
And so you could take in the text
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00:59:18.280 --> 00:59:20.870
and then kind of process it and okay,
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00:59:20.870 --> 00:59:22.380
yes.
Yes, the ability
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to take in process and then semi memorize large blocks
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of text relatively quickly is.
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Got you.
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00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:32.330
Okay, and everybody else says that now
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it makes a big difference that you know what it is,
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because now you have a context
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00:59:35.880 --> 00:59:38.770
and you can actually visualize these things happening.
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00:59:38.770 --> 00:59:41.760
And so I like to give students examples proof
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00:59:41.760 --> 00:59:45.130
that what I'm recommending will work.
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00:59:45.130 --> 00:59:46.850
And there's another example in the book,
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00:59:46.850 --> 00:59:48.680
but once they see that,
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00:59:48.680 --> 00:59:50.970
just knowing what the thing is about,
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00:59:50.970 --> 00:59:53.160
makes such a huge difference in understanding,
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00:59:53.160 --> 00:59:56.330
then that will give them the motivation to maybe spend
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00:59:56.330 --> 00:59:58.900
that five minutes or so doing that overview
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00:59:58.900 --> 01:00:00.360
before they start to read.
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01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:01.950
And here's the reference for that,
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01:00:01.950 --> 01:00:04.390
and there's a link to that.
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01:00:04.390 --> 01:00:06.380
Oh, and you're gonna get this whole PowerPoint presentation,
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01:00:06.380 --> 01:00:08.780
I dunno if I said that, but you're gonna get that.
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01:00:08.780 --> 01:00:10.850
So you can pick and choose any slides
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01:00:10.850 --> 01:00:15.440
you want to share with your students, and so you'll have it.
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01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:19.550
Now, this is an email I got from a high school teacher
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01:00:19.550 --> 01:00:22.970
about his son, who was the student who might end up
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01:00:22.970 --> 01:00:26.070
at a UVM, he's in honors classes
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01:00:26.070 --> 01:00:30.220
at a very selective high school, he has a GPA of 4.2.
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01:00:30.220 --> 01:00:32.790
I was talking about reading strategies in a workshop
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01:00:32.790 --> 01:00:35.580
that his dad was in and he was in the room with his dad.
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01:00:35.580 --> 01:00:37.990
So his dad had his headset on,
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01:00:37.990 --> 01:00:39.900
but when I started talking about the reading strategy,
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01:00:39.900 --> 01:00:41.210
he disconnected his headset
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01:00:41.210 --> 01:00:43.253
so his son could hear the strategy.
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01:00:44.182 --> 01:00:46.010
And so three weeks ago, his son had gotten a 72
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01:00:46.010 --> 01:00:49.130
on his test for honors biology and was devastated,
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01:00:49.130 --> 01:00:52.060
I'd learned, and so he had the next test coming up
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01:00:52.060 --> 01:00:54.730
on Monday, the workshop was Saturday.
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01:00:54.730 --> 01:00:57.950
So evidently he was studying for his test that Sunday night
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01:00:59.199 --> 01:01:02.642
and Darien talked to his dad, I think he was,
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01:01:02.642 --> 01:01:03.475
you know, very concerned,
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01:01:03.475 --> 01:01:05.820
and so his dad told him to just follow the strategies
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01:01:05.820 --> 01:01:07.530
on his test that was coming up the next day
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01:01:07.530 --> 01:01:09.140
that he had heard me talk about.
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01:01:09.140 --> 01:01:12.550
Well, it was 4:34, evidently Darien had gotten home,
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01:01:12.550 --> 01:01:14.230
and he gotten 86 on his test.
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01:01:14.230 --> 01:01:17.460
So his dad dashed off this email to me,
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01:01:17.460 --> 01:01:19.820
he was so relieved and grateful for the advice.
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01:01:19.820 --> 01:01:22.360
And this is what happens to students
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01:01:22.360 --> 01:01:24.880
that when they don't think that
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01:01:24.880 --> 01:01:27.793
they don't know what to do to make it better,
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01:01:27.793 --> 01:01:28.626
and we give 'em strategies,
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01:01:28.626 --> 01:01:30.320
they use those strategies, they're successful,
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01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:32.580
and they are really, really grateful,
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01:01:32.580 --> 01:01:36.952
as you heard Dana was, and it just makes a big difference.
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01:01:36.952 --> 01:01:39.932
And this is a somebody who already had a PhD,
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01:01:39.932 --> 01:01:40.850
that was in the social sciences.
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01:01:40.850 --> 01:01:42.580
And he decided that he wanted
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01:01:42.580 --> 01:01:45.480
to teach himself calculus and physics.
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01:01:45.480 --> 01:01:47.720
And so he said, the methods that I outline,
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01:01:47.720 --> 01:01:49.310
especially active reading,
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01:01:49.310 --> 01:01:52.300
created a learning experience for him that's interactive,
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01:01:52.300 --> 01:01:55.050
even when you're studying the material alone.
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01:01:55.050 --> 01:01:56.020
And he said, you know,
1429
01:01:56.020 --> 01:01:58.590
when I met him, he was trying to learn calculus and physics,
1430
01:01:58.590 --> 01:01:59.970
and it was a struggle, but he said,
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01:01:59.970 --> 01:02:01.350
now it's progressing smoothly,
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01:02:01.350 --> 01:02:03.280
this process is the ultimate divide
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01:02:03.280 --> 01:02:05.150
and conquer approach to learning.
1434
01:02:05.150 --> 01:02:08.160
And he says, he hadn't mentioned it before,
1435
01:02:08.160 --> 01:02:10.750
but it makes the subjects way more interesting
1436
01:02:10.750 --> 01:02:14.153
and even intriguing, like being on a journey of discovery.
1437
01:02:15.246 --> 01:02:18.270
And so I think that students really do find
1438
01:02:18.270 --> 01:02:19.690
that this reading strategy allows them
1439
01:02:19.690 --> 01:02:21.890
to get so much more out of them.
1440
01:02:21.890 --> 01:02:24.420
Now, reflection questions, again,
1441
01:02:24.420 --> 01:02:27.730
are really key to developing students metacognitive skills.
1442
01:02:27.730 --> 01:02:30.543
And two of the ones that I ask,
1443
01:02:31.753 --> 01:02:34.110
and normally I will ask you to give me
1444
01:02:34.110 --> 01:02:37.000
your responses to that, but in the interest of time,
1445
01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:39.100
I'm gonna tell you the top three responses
1446
01:02:39.100 --> 01:02:41.120
I get from students, and you can,
1447
01:02:41.120 --> 01:02:43.460
you know, think if you were thinking one of those,
1448
01:02:43.460 --> 01:02:45.080
or if you were thinking something else,
1449
01:02:45.080 --> 01:02:47.200
then certainly put that in the chat box.
1450
01:02:47.200 --> 01:02:49.580
But the first question is, what's the difference,
1451
01:02:49.580 --> 01:02:51.450
if you think there's any difference at all,
1452
01:02:51.450 --> 01:02:53.770
between studying and learning.
1453
01:02:53.770 --> 01:02:56.740
And typically, students have not been asked this question,
1454
01:02:56.740 --> 01:02:59.290
but when we ask it, they think about,
1455
01:02:59.290 --> 01:03:01.560
and I have 'em do it as a think, pair, share.
1456
01:03:01.560 --> 01:03:02.800
So they get their own answer,
1457
01:03:02.800 --> 01:03:04.630
then they share it with a partner.
1458
01:03:04.630 --> 01:03:07.180
And the number one response I get is they'll say,
1459
01:03:07.180 --> 01:03:10.640
aah, studying is just memorizing information for a test
1460
01:03:11.838 --> 01:03:13.420
or a quiz, but learning is when I understand
1461
01:03:13.420 --> 01:03:17.460
that information, I can relate it to what I already know,
1462
01:03:17.460 --> 01:03:20.940
I can apply it to things that I haven't seen before.
1463
01:03:20.940 --> 01:03:23.740
And sometimes they'll say studying is short term,
1464
01:03:23.740 --> 01:03:26.170
learning is long terms.
1465
01:03:26.170 --> 01:03:28.000
Sometimes they'll say studying is tedious,
1466
01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:28.860
learning is fun.
1467
01:03:28.860 --> 01:03:31.210
But recently I've been getting more students,
1468
01:03:31.210 --> 01:03:33.220
I used to only get this from high school student,
1469
01:03:33.220 --> 01:03:35.820
but now I'm getting a lot more college students who'll say,
1470
01:03:35.820 --> 01:03:40.820
aah, studying is when I go over what I've already learned.
1471
01:03:41.190 --> 01:03:43.680
And the first time I heard that I was struck
1472
01:03:43.680 --> 01:03:45.910
by that response, it was a group of high school students.
1473
01:03:45.910 --> 01:03:48.690
And so I asked them, when did you learn it?
1474
01:03:48.690 --> 01:03:51.153
Since they said studying was going over,
1475
01:03:51.153 --> 01:03:52.209
what they already learned?
1476
01:03:52.209 --> 01:03:53.180
I asked, when did you learn it?
1477
01:03:53.180 --> 01:03:55.340
And put in the chat box, if you haven't read the book
1478
01:03:55.340 --> 01:03:57.090
or attended any of the other sessions,
1479
01:03:57.090 --> 01:03:58.450
when do you think the students
1480
01:03:58.450 --> 01:04:00.833
said they learned the information?
1481
01:04:02.030 --> 01:04:03.160
Because if they're studying,
1482
01:04:03.160 --> 01:04:05.750
they're going over what they already learned,
1483
01:04:05.750 --> 01:04:09.149
so they obviously think they've learned it at some,
1484
01:04:09.149 --> 01:04:10.252
exactly, Veronica.
1485
01:04:10.252 --> 01:04:11.953
in class when the teacher taught it.
1486
01:04:12.910 --> 01:04:14.931
And so then I realized that I had to help students
1487
01:04:14.931 --> 01:04:17.831
understand the difference between learning about something
1488
01:04:18.780 --> 01:04:19.630
and learning something,
1489
01:04:19.630 --> 01:04:22.720
in class you learn about a lot of things,
1490
01:04:22.720 --> 01:04:25.210
but you haven't really learned it to the extent
1491
01:04:25.210 --> 01:04:28.030
that you would be able to explain it to someone else,
1492
01:04:28.030 --> 01:04:30.570
you gotta do something with that information later on,
1493
01:04:30.570 --> 01:04:33.390
because without having that perspective, students,
1494
01:04:33.390 --> 01:04:35.320
and I tell 'em, you know,
1495
01:04:35.320 --> 01:04:36.920
unfortunately I'm guilty,
1496
01:04:36.920 --> 01:04:38.760
I would study the night before the test
1497
01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:41.630
because I too thought I had learned it in class
1498
01:04:42.482 --> 01:04:44.020
and I just need to go over it before the test.
1499
01:04:44.020 --> 01:04:46.690
And of course I couldn't start going over it too soon,
1500
01:04:46.690 --> 01:04:49.260
'cause I started going over it too soon, what would happen?
1501
01:04:49.260 --> 01:04:51.300
I'd forget it before the test.
1502
01:04:51.300 --> 01:04:53.670
And so then I helped them understand that, no,
1503
01:04:53.670 --> 01:04:56.300
when you learn it, it's not a matter of forgetting it
1504
01:04:56.300 --> 01:04:59.600
before the test, and you really haven't learned it in class,
1505
01:04:59.600 --> 01:05:01.453
you learn it by employing these strategies
1506
01:05:01.453 --> 01:05:03.461
that we're talking about.
1507
01:05:03.461 --> 01:05:05.360
And then the second question is for which task
1508
01:05:05.360 --> 01:05:08.450
would you work harder, if I told you you had to make an A
1509
01:05:08.450 --> 01:05:12.040
on the next test or if I told you that, okay,
1510
01:05:12.040 --> 01:05:13.140
in this particular class,
1511
01:05:13.140 --> 01:05:15.590
we're having the second test coming up next week,
1512
01:05:15.590 --> 01:05:17.900
and everybody in the class kept asking me
1513
01:05:19.041 --> 01:05:20.320
before the first test, can we have a review sheet?
1514
01:05:20.320 --> 01:05:21.600
Are you gonna give us a review sheet?
1515
01:05:21.600 --> 01:05:22.630
And I said, no,
1516
01:05:22.630 --> 01:05:26.320
we don't give review sheets at UVM, that was so high school.
1517
01:05:26.320 --> 01:05:27.893
So no, not gonna give a review.
1518
01:05:28.784 --> 01:05:30.820
And so I didn't give a review or a review sheet
1519
01:05:30.820 --> 01:05:33.720
and the class did horribly, the average was 65.
1520
01:05:33.720 --> 01:05:35.950
So I see now I'm gonna have to offer
1521
01:05:35.950 --> 01:05:38.240
a review before this upcoming test.
1522
01:05:38.240 --> 01:05:40.610
So I'm gonna offer a review the class period
1523
01:05:41.636 --> 01:05:44.490
before the test and you are gonna teach that review.
1524
01:05:44.490 --> 01:05:46.550
I'm gonna have you come up to the front of the class
1525
01:05:46.550 --> 01:05:48.480
with no notes or anything,
1526
01:05:48.480 --> 01:05:51.110
and you're going to go over all of the important concepts,
1527
01:05:51.110 --> 01:05:53.730
paying particular attention to the more difficult concepts
1528
01:05:53.730 --> 01:05:56.300
to make sure everybody is prepared for the test
1529
01:05:56.300 --> 01:05:59.960
the next day, would you work harder for A or B?
1530
01:05:59.960 --> 01:06:02.603
So put that in the chat box for me, please.
1531
01:06:09.210 --> 01:06:11.763
Okay, and that's what students say.
1532
01:06:11.763 --> 01:06:13.150
And I think it was Veronica who said that, you know,
1533
01:06:13.150 --> 01:06:16.435
when I do the example in class, they think they know it.
1534
01:06:16.435 --> 01:06:17.550
And actually I talked with students
1535
01:06:17.550 --> 01:06:19.170
about this when I was still teaching,
1536
01:06:19.170 --> 01:06:22.010
I'm retired, and I've forgotten to tell students recently,
1537
01:06:22.010 --> 01:06:23.930
so thank you for me reminding,
1538
01:06:23.930 --> 01:06:27.530
I told him that when we do problems on the board,
1539
01:06:27.530 --> 01:06:30.920
when we explain things, we're going to make it very,
1540
01:06:30.920 --> 01:06:33.880
very clear because we understand it very well,
1541
01:06:33.880 --> 01:06:36.730
we know how to explain it so that students understand it.
1542
01:06:38.120 --> 01:06:40.880
So it makes perfect sense that they're gonna understand
1543
01:06:40.880 --> 01:06:43.480
it totally after they've heard us explain it,
1544
01:06:43.480 --> 01:06:45.070
but that is doesn't mean they've learned it,
1545
01:06:45.070 --> 01:06:46.390
they've gotta do something with it.
1546
01:06:46.390 --> 01:06:48.660
So even though they think they totally understand
1547
01:06:48.660 --> 01:06:51.390
these examples, before they go through the chapter
1548
01:06:51.390 --> 01:06:53.360
and do the examples in the chapter
1549
01:06:53.360 --> 01:06:55.470
without looking at any of the solutions,
1550
01:06:55.470 --> 01:06:59.197
then they won't know that they have mastered this.
1551
01:06:59.197 --> 01:07:00.370
And so students say they would work harder
1552
01:07:00.370 --> 01:07:01.500
to teach the material.
1553
01:07:01.500 --> 01:07:03.600
When I ask why, they'll say things like,
1554
01:07:03.600 --> 01:07:06.310
oh, I gotta really know it if I have to teach it.
1555
01:07:06.310 --> 01:07:07.333
Sometimes they'll say,
1556
01:07:07.333 --> 01:07:09.550
I don't wanna look stupid in front of the class.
1557
01:07:09.550 --> 01:07:11.030
And then sometimes they'll say,
1558
01:07:11.030 --> 01:07:12.443
the more empathetic students say, well,
1559
01:07:12.443 --> 01:07:15.270
I wanna make sure everybody in the class knows
1560
01:07:15.270 --> 01:07:18.163
it well enough to do well on the test.
1561
01:07:19.137 --> 01:07:21.000
So that means that I'm going to make sure
1562
01:07:21.000 --> 01:07:23.500
that I can explain things more than one way.
1563
01:07:23.500 --> 01:07:25.980
I can use charts and diagrams for people
1564
01:07:25.980 --> 01:07:28.594
who like to see it visually.
1565
01:07:28.594 --> 01:07:30.320
And so they realize that they would work harder,
1566
01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:32.140
and when I ask them up to this point,
1567
01:07:32.140 --> 01:07:35.400
have they more often been in study mode or learn mode?
1568
01:07:35.400 --> 01:07:37.840
Of course, most of them say study mode,
1569
01:07:37.840 --> 01:07:42.210
and for A or B, what mode have they been in?
1570
01:07:42.210 --> 01:07:44.510
They've been in scenario A mode.
1571
01:07:44.510 --> 01:07:45.940
And at that point, and I say,
1572
01:07:45.940 --> 01:07:49.510
wonderful, I love it when you're doing everything wrong.
1573
01:07:49.510 --> 01:07:52.120
Because that means when you change what you're doing,
1574
01:07:52.120 --> 01:07:54.410
you are more likely to see a big improvement.
1575
01:07:54.410 --> 01:07:57.270
Because I never want students to feel bad
1576
01:07:57.270 --> 01:08:00.261
about what they've done in the past.
1577
01:08:00.261 --> 01:08:03.011
And sometimes I think we as STEM faculty, particularly,
1578
01:08:05.539 --> 01:08:07.730
if a student comes and they're not using the book
1579
01:08:07.730 --> 01:08:10.300
and we say, you're not using the book,
1580
01:08:10.300 --> 01:08:11.550
well, how'd you think you were gonna learn
1581
01:08:11.550 --> 01:08:12.573
not using the book?
1582
01:08:13.590 --> 01:08:16.223
Oh, I'll ask this question for the chat box.
1583
01:08:16.223 --> 01:08:20.680
Do you think that there are any faculty at UVM
1584
01:08:20.680 --> 01:08:22.710
who say to students, you don't really need
1585
01:08:22.710 --> 01:08:25.070
to buy the book for this course?
1586
01:08:25.070 --> 01:08:26.830
Give me a yes or no in the chat box,
1587
01:08:26.830 --> 01:08:31.100
if you think any of your colleagues tell students,
1588
01:08:31.100 --> 01:08:33.570
you don't really need to buy the book for this course?
1589
01:08:33.570 --> 01:08:36.480
Okay, yes, absolutely.
1590
01:08:36.480 --> 01:08:39.570
'Cause when I ask students and they all say yes,
1591
01:08:39.570 --> 01:08:41.580
and so there's an example in the book that I use
1592
01:08:41.580 --> 01:08:43.600
with students to show them why
1593
01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:45.590
this is not accurate information.
1594
01:08:45.590 --> 01:08:47.076
So I said, well,
1595
01:08:47.076 --> 01:08:48.080
that's not actually accurate,
1596
01:08:48.080 --> 01:08:49.080
but don't get mad at faculty for telling you that
1597
01:08:49.080 --> 01:08:51.140
because they think they're helping you out.
1598
01:08:51.140 --> 01:08:53.350
I'll ask students, what do you think those faculty members
1599
01:08:53.350 --> 01:08:55.080
think they're doing when they say you don't really
1600
01:08:55.080 --> 01:08:56.670
need to buy the book for this course?
1601
01:08:56.670 --> 01:08:59.050
And students will say, saving us money.
1602
01:08:59.050 --> 01:09:00.120
I said, absolutely,
1603
01:09:00.120 --> 01:09:01.260
that's what they think.
1604
01:09:01.260 --> 01:09:04.941
But what's more expensive, buying the book
1605
01:09:04.941 --> 01:09:06.350
for your anatomy and physiology course
1606
01:09:06.350 --> 01:09:07.930
or getting a C in the course
1607
01:09:07.930 --> 01:09:09.930
that's gonna keep you outta medical school?
1608
01:09:09.930 --> 01:09:11.460
I said, yeah, books are expensive,
1609
01:09:11.460 --> 01:09:14.520
but not having the book is way more expensive.
1610
01:09:14.520 --> 01:09:18.030
And so there are so many things that students don't know
1611
01:09:18.030 --> 01:09:19.930
that we think that they should know,
1612
01:09:19.930 --> 01:09:22.190
that they don't know because nobody's told 'em
1613
01:09:22.190 --> 01:09:24.620
what they really need to do, and worse than that,
1614
01:09:24.620 --> 01:09:27.260
people have told them things that were counterproductive
1615
01:09:27.260 --> 01:09:28.922
to their learning.
1616
01:09:28.922 --> 01:09:31.801
And so I want students to know, I know it's not your fault,
1617
01:09:31.801 --> 01:09:34.162
so I'm gonna teach you what you need to know.
1618
01:09:34.162 --> 01:09:37.450
And I also like to give examples of students
1619
01:09:37.450 --> 01:09:40.520
who've used the strategies and what the results have been.
1620
01:09:40.520 --> 01:09:42.560
This young man, Ty,
1621
01:09:42.560 --> 01:09:45.380
when he heard about the teaching strategy,
1622
01:09:45.380 --> 01:09:47.420
he said, ah, I have a betta fish in my room,
1623
01:09:47.420 --> 01:09:49.230
I'm gonna teach this stuff to him.
1624
01:09:49.230 --> 01:09:52.080
And he told me this September 17th,
1625
01:09:52.080 --> 01:09:56.630
and the within the next month, he showed me the impact
1626
01:09:56.630 --> 01:09:58.110
of teaching to his betta fish,
1627
01:09:58.110 --> 01:10:02.490
66 to 98, 62 to 83, B in both courses.
1628
01:10:02.490 --> 01:10:07.490
And so now I ask students to send me an email
1629
01:10:08.160 --> 01:10:11.420
telling me what they did, and excuse me
1630
01:10:11.420 --> 01:10:13.180
if I already said this to this group,
1631
01:10:13.180 --> 01:10:14.300
I talked to so many groups,
1632
01:10:14.300 --> 01:10:17.310
I'd forget what I've said and what I haven't,
1633
01:10:17.310 --> 01:10:18.610
well gimme a yes or no in the chat box,
1634
01:10:18.610 --> 01:10:22.750
did I already ask you to ask students to email you,
1635
01:10:22.750 --> 01:10:25.830
the students who've come to you having difficulty,
1636
01:10:25.830 --> 01:10:27.590
and then they increase their performance,
1637
01:10:27.590 --> 01:10:30.547
to send you an email to tell you exactly
1638
01:10:30.547 --> 01:10:32.780
what they did differently, did I ask you to do that already?
1639
01:10:32.780 --> 01:10:34.163
Ah, okay, thank you.
1640
01:10:35.249 --> 01:10:36.082
Yeah, I'm gonna ask you to do that.
1641
01:10:36.082 --> 01:10:37.580
This is something I wish I had done
1642
01:10:37.580 --> 01:10:39.320
at the beginning of my teaching career,
1643
01:10:39.320 --> 01:10:41.542
but I didn't think to do it.
1644
01:10:41.542 --> 01:10:43.590
And so when we ask students to tell us exactly
1645
01:10:43.590 --> 01:10:44.870
what they did differently,
1646
01:10:44.870 --> 01:10:47.220
then it will add to your repertoire of strategies
1647
01:10:47.220 --> 01:10:48.760
you can share with other students,
1648
01:10:48.760 --> 01:10:51.170
and keep the before and after scores
1649
01:10:52.542 --> 01:10:54.740
so that if a student comes in and says, oh well,
1650
01:10:54.740 --> 01:10:56.824
well, it is me, I made a 65 on the first test.
1651
01:10:56.824 --> 01:10:57.900
You can say, oh,
1652
01:10:57.900 --> 01:10:59.845
don't worry about that,
1653
01:10:59.845 --> 01:11:02.027
here's a student who made a 42 on the first test
1654
01:11:02.027 --> 01:11:03.540
and hundreds on everything else
1655
01:11:03.540 --> 01:11:05.600
when they changed what they were doing
1656
01:11:05.600 --> 01:11:08.730
to what we're gonna talk about in this session.
1657
01:11:08.730 --> 01:11:12.330
And when we do that, students are much more attentive
1658
01:11:12.330 --> 01:11:14.030
because now they know that somebody who was
1659
01:11:14.030 --> 01:11:17.830
in their very same situation was able to turn it around
1660
01:11:17.830 --> 01:11:19.130
based on the information
1661
01:11:19.130 --> 01:11:21.422
that we are going to share with them.
1662
01:11:21.422 --> 01:11:23.560
And so he started going to more of the SI sessions,
1663
01:11:23.560 --> 01:11:25.010
and now, as opposed to before,
1664
01:11:25.010 --> 01:11:26.990
when he wouldn't prepare for the sessions,
1665
01:11:26.990 --> 01:11:28.680
he would prepare for them,
1666
01:11:28.680 --> 01:11:31.766
see what he needed to really focus on.
1667
01:11:31.766 --> 01:11:33.160
And then afterwards he would go back to his room
1668
01:11:33.160 --> 01:11:35.200
and teach the materials to his betta fish.
1669
01:11:35.200 --> 01:11:37.250
Anything he couldn't explain, he'd study more.
1670
01:11:37.250 --> 01:11:40.650
And then he continued that cycle until he could explain
1671
01:11:40.650 --> 01:11:42.580
every thing in the notes.
1672
01:11:42.580 --> 01:11:44.830
And Janet says, I've asked the top 10 students
1673
01:11:44.830 --> 01:11:46.910
in a class how they were studying for immunology
1674
01:11:46.910 --> 01:11:49.300
to try to find the most useful methods.
1675
01:11:49.300 --> 01:11:51.220
Okay, I think that's a great strategy
1676
01:11:51.220 --> 01:11:53.780
to ask students how they study.
1677
01:11:53.780 --> 01:11:57.790
But I would ask everybody, because I have found that
1678
01:11:57.790 --> 01:12:00.570
some students who are in the bottom 10
1679
01:12:00.570 --> 01:12:04.080
are using strategies that the top 10 students
1680
01:12:04.080 --> 01:12:05.430
would not have thought of using.
1681
01:12:05.430 --> 01:12:08.270
So I think that's a great question to ask
1682
01:12:08.270 --> 01:12:10.050
and even have them, you know,
1683
01:12:10.050 --> 01:12:14.300
share strategies or even compile a list of strategies
1684
01:12:14.300 --> 01:12:15.720
for the whole class of,
1685
01:12:15.720 --> 01:12:17.650
these are things that people have done.
1686
01:12:17.650 --> 01:12:21.225
So I think that is an excellent strategy,
1687
01:12:21.225 --> 01:12:24.080
but I would just broaden that to include everybody.
1688
01:12:24.080 --> 01:12:26.710
Because what I find is when I present
1689
01:12:26.710 --> 01:12:28.600
this information to honor students,
1690
01:12:28.600 --> 01:12:31.830
there are a lot of things that they weren't using
1691
01:12:31.830 --> 01:12:35.100
that other students were, so great practice.
1692
01:12:35.100 --> 01:12:39.550
And so when I did this presentation to a group of students
1693
01:12:39.550 --> 01:12:42.830
at Howard University, before I got back on the plane,
1694
01:12:42.830 --> 01:12:46.110
a student had sent me a picture of the betta fish
1695
01:12:46.110 --> 01:12:47.750
that they had gone out and bought.
1696
01:12:47.750 --> 01:12:49.960
And so I tell students, no,
1697
01:12:49.960 --> 01:12:52.320
you don't have to go and buy your own pet.
1698
01:12:52.320 --> 01:12:55.190
If you have stuffed animals, if you have,
1699
01:12:55.190 --> 01:12:56.730
excuse me, empty chairs in your room,
1700
01:12:56.730 --> 01:13:01.285
if you have imaginary friends, if you have any audience,
1701
01:13:01.285 --> 01:13:03.305
either real or imagined that you can pretend
1702
01:13:03.305 --> 01:13:04.333
you're teaching this stuff to,
1703
01:13:05.183 --> 01:13:06.324
it makes all the difference in the world.
1704
01:13:06.324 --> 01:13:07.157
Because when you get stuck,
1705
01:13:07.157 --> 01:13:09.810
you know that's something that you need to go back
1706
01:13:09.810 --> 01:13:11.050
and look at again.
1707
01:13:11.050 --> 01:13:12.110
And then I thought about,
1708
01:13:12.110 --> 01:13:15.090
I wonder what happened this student, this fish rather,
1709
01:13:15.090 --> 01:13:16.510
'cause this was back in 2019.
1710
01:13:16.510 --> 01:13:18.340
So I texted this young lady
1711
01:13:18.340 --> 01:13:19.980
and I wanted to find out what happened to him,
1712
01:13:19.980 --> 01:13:22.720
did he end up being flushed down somebody's toilet?
1713
01:13:22.720 --> 01:13:25.750
But he is still, excuse me, alive and well,
1714
01:13:25.750 --> 01:13:27.709
and living with Makayla,
1715
01:13:27.709 --> 01:13:29.190
one of the students who was in the program.
1716
01:13:29.190 --> 01:13:33.100
So the other thing I like to do is show students,
1717
01:13:33.100 --> 01:13:35.920
give them an experience that shows them why I am
1718
01:13:35.920 --> 01:13:39.360
so confident that even if they made a 40 on the first test,
1719
01:13:39.360 --> 01:13:42.400
they could make 80 or higher on the next test.
1720
01:13:42.400 --> 01:13:44.400
And so I'm gonna have you do,
1721
01:13:44.400 --> 01:13:47.504
there's a different exercise in the book,
1722
01:13:47.504 --> 01:13:49.500
but the one we're gonna go through now involves,
1723
01:13:49.500 --> 01:13:51.300
I'm gonna show you a bunch of numbers,
1724
01:13:51.300 --> 01:13:53.300
all jumbled up on the next screen,
1725
01:13:53.300 --> 01:13:55.945
I want you to locate the number one,
1726
01:13:55.945 --> 01:13:58.070
and then after that locate the number two,
1727
01:13:58.070 --> 01:14:00.960
then locate the number three, etcetera,
1728
01:14:00.960 --> 01:14:02.143
find them in order.
1729
01:14:03.126 --> 01:14:04.720
And then when I take 'em off the screen,
1730
01:14:04.720 --> 01:14:08.580
just put in the chat box the last number you saw
1731
01:14:08.580 --> 01:14:10.990
when you were finding them in sequential order.
1732
01:14:10.990 --> 01:14:12.650
So let's start,
1733
01:14:12.650 --> 01:14:14.410
and only the people who haven't seen this before,
1734
01:14:14.410 --> 01:14:16.380
put that number in the chat box, please.
1735
01:14:16.380 --> 01:14:18.823
Okay, so let's start finding the numbers now.
1736
01:14:33.490 --> 01:14:34.640
And stop.
1737
01:14:34.640 --> 01:14:36.120
Okay, so put in the chat box
1738
01:14:37.194 --> 01:14:40.129
the last number you saw when you find, okay,
1739
01:14:40.129 --> 01:14:43.130
13, 7, 4, okay,
1740
01:14:43.130 --> 01:14:44.620
yeah, you're like most audiences,
1741
01:14:44.620 --> 01:14:47.320
usually it'll be very low double digits,
1742
01:14:47.320 --> 01:14:49.170
but mostly single digits.
1743
01:14:49.170 --> 01:14:51.170
Now I'm gonna have us look at it again
1744
01:14:51.170 --> 01:14:54.140
and with a vertical line, a horizontal line,
1745
01:14:54.140 --> 01:14:56.920
in the position of the number one indicated.
1746
01:14:56.920 --> 01:14:58.948
So now I'm gonna ask you,
1747
01:14:58.948 --> 01:15:02.240
what do you notice about how the other numbers are arranged?
1748
01:15:02.240 --> 01:15:04.040
What are they arranged according to?
1749
01:15:10.010 --> 01:15:13.300
Yes, clockwise by quadrant or by box,
1750
01:15:13.300 --> 01:15:14.283
absolutely.
1751
01:15:15.532 --> 01:15:17.360
And so, 'cause the one is here,
1752
01:15:17.360 --> 01:15:18.463
the two is there, the three is there,
1753
01:15:19.352 --> 01:15:21.430
the four, the five, the six, the seven,
1754
01:15:21.430 --> 01:15:23.485
the eight, the nine, etcetera.
1755
01:15:23.485 --> 01:15:26.388
And so now I'm gonna give you another 15 seconds
1756
01:15:26.388 --> 01:15:27.730
and ask you to put in the chat box,
1757
01:15:27.730 --> 01:15:29.243
how many you saw this time.
1758
01:15:30.105 --> 01:15:32.073
So let's start fighting the numbers now.
1759
01:15:48.190 --> 01:15:49.360
And stop.
1760
01:15:49.360 --> 01:15:52.123
Okay, so put the highest number you saw this time.
1761
01:15:55.618 --> 01:15:57.410
Okay, 19, 24, 18, 20.
1762
01:15:57.410 --> 01:15:58.890
Yeah, it seems like most people got
1763
01:15:58.890 --> 01:16:01.700
at least twice as many the second time as the first time.
1764
01:16:01.700 --> 01:16:03.940
So what that means, and I tell students,
1765
01:16:03.940 --> 01:16:06.700
so this is proof positive that you could have made a 50
1766
01:16:06.700 --> 01:16:09.770
on the first test and hundred next one,
1767
01:16:09.770 --> 01:16:12.833
'cause in the book, the example that I give there,
1768
01:16:15.180 --> 01:16:17.530
usually students get three times as many right.
1769
01:16:18.896 --> 01:16:20.463
But now there was a major difference between
1770
01:16:20.463 --> 01:16:21.580
the first attempt and the second attempt,
1771
01:16:21.580 --> 01:16:24.257
and what was that difference?
1772
01:16:24.257 --> 01:16:26.820
Why could we do so much better the second time around?
1773
01:16:26.820 --> 01:16:28.320
What was the major difference?
1774
01:16:29.660 --> 01:16:31.010
The second, yeah,
1775
01:16:31.010 --> 01:16:33.430
we had a strategy, we knew the pattern,
1776
01:16:33.430 --> 01:16:36.100
we knew that they were divided into quadrants,
1777
01:16:36.100 --> 01:16:40.320
and so we could focus on a smaller area of material,
1778
01:16:40.320 --> 01:16:42.330
which I think, and we had a guide,
1779
01:16:42.330 --> 01:16:44.440
and I never had used this before,
1780
01:16:44.440 --> 01:16:45.273
I never thought about this,
1781
01:16:45.273 --> 01:16:48.350
but now I'm thinking about that also could be evidence
1782
01:16:48.350 --> 01:16:49.760
for students that you need
1783
01:16:49.760 --> 01:16:52.610
to study small chunks of information at a time,
1784
01:16:52.610 --> 01:16:55.110
you can't let it all pile up and study it just
1785
01:16:55.110 --> 01:16:58.820
before the test, you gotta break up big tasks
1786
01:16:58.820 --> 01:17:00.900
into smaller chunks.
1787
01:17:00.900 --> 01:17:02.930
And so yeah, we knew how the information was organized.
1788
01:17:02.930 --> 01:17:04.330
Now "How People Learn",
1789
01:17:04.330 --> 01:17:06.540
when I first started learning about this,
1790
01:17:06.540 --> 01:17:08.784
when I got to LSU,
1791
01:17:08.784 --> 01:17:10.730
and I've been teaching for 30 years before I got to LSU,
1792
01:17:10.730 --> 01:17:12.380
didn't know any of this stuff.
1793
01:17:12.380 --> 01:17:13.810
When I found out it was possible,
1794
01:17:13.810 --> 01:17:15.970
I started reading everything I can get my hands on,
1795
01:17:15.970 --> 01:17:18.760
And "How People Learn" was one of the first things I read,
1796
01:17:18.760 --> 01:17:21.740
and it is excellent, it talks about metacognition,
1797
01:17:21.740 --> 01:17:24.480
metacognitive strategies in different areas.
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And they came out with another volume in 2018,
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"How People Learn II",
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and it more focuses on the context of the learner,
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the cultures that the learners come from,
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so both of these are excellent resources.
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Because we know a lot about learning now
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that we did not know before.
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We know that active learning
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is much more lasting than passive learning.
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Pat Cross says that passive learning is really an oxymoron,
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your brain has got to be actively engaged to learn.
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And metacognition is important.
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Now we know that teaching students about metacognition,
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teaching them the word metacognition is really important.
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So they know what their role in the learning process is
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and how to understand that role.
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And we know that the level at which learning occurs
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is important and that's where Bloom's Taxonomy comes in.
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And this is the form of Bloom's that I like to share
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with students where remembering is at the very bottom,
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and just memorize, straight memorizing definitions,
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go definitions and formulas.
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Understanding, you can explain that information
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in own terms to your 80 year old uncle
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or your eight year old niece in words
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that they understand, giving them examples
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and analogies from their life.
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If you're at applying, now you can use the information
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to solve problems and answer questions
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you've never seen before.
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If you're at analyzing, you can now take any concept up,
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breaking into simpler terms,
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and explain how they fit together.
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At evaluating, you could look at any two ideas,
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two theories, two concepts,
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and determine whether one is more likely
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to be accurate than another.
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And at creating, you can come up with your own ideas,
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your own thoughts, your own ways of doing things.
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And here's another form of it that has now some verbs
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that are associated with each level.
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And I find that when we teach students
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about Bloom's Taxonomy, they get it.
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And so here's the next poll question,
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and I want you to tell me what you think students said,
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how you think they answered, when I ask them to think back
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to high school and tell me what was
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the highest level that they had to operate in order
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to make A's and B's in their high school classes.
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What was the highest level you think they told me?
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Okay, wow,
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and we still got about 30 people,
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so when we get to about 25,
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I'll give you the five second warning.
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Okay, we're there, five seconds.
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Okay, and as you can see,
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yeah, you're right on target,
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76% of us said, remember and understanding,
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then another 20% applying, and a few creating,
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and there are a few students who say creating
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if they've had AP courses or IB courses,
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but you are right on,
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most of them say remembering, understanding.
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So then when I asked, well,
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now that you know about Bloom's
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and you've seen what we do here at UVM,
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what's the lowest level you think you'll have to operate
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to get the level of learning
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to consistently get the grades that you made in high school?
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'Cause you're not any less smart than you were then,
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you're totally capable,
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what's the lowest level you think you're going
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to have to operate in order to do that?
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And we'll see what you think students say about that.
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Okay, I see so far applying has the edge.
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Okay, I'll give you the five second warning.
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Okay, and we'll stop.
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Now the big bump here was at applying.
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I think you're gonna be very pleasantly surprised
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to see what students do.
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And I do want you to ask this to students in your class,
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and you could make it in,
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what's the lowest level you think you need
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to operate to make A's in this particular class,
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to master the concepts in this class.
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In this group, a big bump was at one for high school
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and it was at evaluating for college.
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This group, oh, okay,
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only showed you one year data.
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Yeah, so most groups will go from being clustered
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around the ones, two, threes
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to the 4, 5, 6.
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But once I had a group that said mostly threes, you know,
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kind of like you said, and I said,
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okay, I see what you're saying,
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but how many of you have either research papers
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that you have to do for the end of the semester,
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or research project, or a presentation,
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or a research paper?
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All the hands went up and then I asked them, okay,
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if you've gotta do that, what level do you think that is?
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And put in the chat box, what level is that,
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if they've got to do research papers,
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or research projects, or term papers,
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what level would you say that is?
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Okay, yeah.
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Okay, so I see you saying fives and sixes.
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Students say six and Jenny says,
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creating with an exclamation!
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I've actually only had students say six,
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they don't even say five anymore, they say six.
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And I said, yeah,
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because the difference between an outstanding project
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or paper and one that's mediocre
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is the amount of creativity that goes into it.
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And so then when they see that, aah,
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I need to be at creating.
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Then I said, okay,
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so we have a tool for that, we call it the study cycle,
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and there are different forms of it.
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You'll see a different form of it that I did this morning,
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but all the same steps, preview information,
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before you go to class,
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go to class, review as soon after class as possible.
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And then it only takes about 10 minutes to do these,
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but you have to do more than that.
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And we call 'em focused study sessions,
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we show them how to organize those.
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And then they can check to see if they know
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it well enough to teach it,
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if they have time to do another focused study session,
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etcetera, choose then.
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And students love of this,
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they love it because, especially STEM students,
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you probably heard students say, well,
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you know, I just really don't know how to study.
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They tell us this all the time and they tell us
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because I never had to study in high school
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and nobody taught me,
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and so they love this because this is a very structured way.
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And our students call it that preview review thing.
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Here's an email from a young lady who's now,
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she's about to get her PhD probably in 2023 at Emory.
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And this was when she graduated, she said she got an A+
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on three out of four of her finals,
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using that method of studying.
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It's important to use it every day before finals week,
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but she said it really benefits students during finals week
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because it's a great time management tool,
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when you schedule in these sessions.
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So that's helpful.
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There is a paper on how metacognition,
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how it enhances the efficacy of active learning.
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Now, another email,
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I thought I'd put it in here, but evidently I didn't,
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this was an email from an engineering professor
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at North Dakotas State who gave just
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the information about Bloom's and the study cycle
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to a student who was not doing well at all.
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And about three weeks later, he sent her an email,
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he'd made a hundred on the first test,
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I think it was 115% on the first and only graded homework.
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And she said, then she started inviting students
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to co-teach lectures with her.
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And she found that they poured their passion
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into the lecture and they got a lot out of it.
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And so that was very helpful.
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Okay, so actually I see where we are,
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we are now at about 2:57,
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and I know we're supposed to end at 3:00,
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but I probably will go over about five to seven minutes,
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but I never do that without getting permission
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from my participants.
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So is it okay if I go over about seven minutes or so after?
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Okay, I'm seeing a thumbs up, a yes.
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And I know some of you will need to leave
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because you may have a class coming up,
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but there is gonna be a tape of this, it's being taped,
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and then you can just go to the end of the tape
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if you have to miss it.
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But okay, so thank you.
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Oh, okay, Jim has to head out.
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Okay, great, thank you for coming.
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Yeah, and anybody who has to leave,
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no problem, you'll be able to see the tape.
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Now there's an article in the proceedings
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of the National Academy of Science
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that active learning narrows the achievement gaps
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for underrepresented students in undergraduate science,
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technology, engineering, and math courses.
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And so I think knowing that if we use active learning
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in combination with teaching students about metacognition,
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it has great potential.
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Students typically don't like active learning.
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This study found that students thought
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that they learned a whole lot more
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if the lecture just gave them the information,
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rather than having them spend their time
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talking to their next door neighbor, blah, blah, blah.
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Yeah, I don't have it,
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every time I need to get to it, I just Google.
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Yeah, I just Google the title and then it comes up.
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But Beverly, if you don't get it,
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then just email me and I will certainly be happy
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to send it to you, because it is something that
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I think is important for everybody to know,
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and this article about how students feel
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about active learning is extremely important
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for students to know that even though you might think
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you're not learning while you're doing active learning,
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you are learning a lot more than if you are gonna
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just get a straight lecture.
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And we can teach this to an entire class,
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and I was just gonna show you some results here.
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I only do this after the students get
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the results back from their first test or quiz,
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because I find that if we try to do it before then,
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most students will think, I don't need this.
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You know, I don't know why she's talking
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to me about this stuff.
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I got my A's, A+ from high school.
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Oh, wait,
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she must be talking to all the dumies in the class
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who need this stuff, but not me.
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But then after the first test or quiz, they see that,
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hmm, maybe I need this too.
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And so the average on the first exam was about the same,
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but on the second exam, these folks went up to 77,
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these folks went down to 69, end of the course,
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whole letter grade difference.
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And we published this
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in the "Journal of Chemical Education".
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Next year we did it in second semester
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and there was a two letter grade difference,
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and here you see the big difference was in homework total.
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Once students understood the value of homework
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and how it helped their learning,
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then they changed their behavior, and it paid off big time.
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And then this year, we only gave them the information
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after they'd done the first three exams.
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And the average in the class was less than a C,
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it was at a D, and this time the people who attended
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had an average lower than the people who were there.
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But by the end of the course,
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these people were still a letter grade higher,
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exam four, average,
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and the final exam, 81 versus 75.
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So it makes a big difference.
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And I like to show students these data
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to help 'em buy into it also.
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These faculty members figured out how
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to do a face to face format of the study cycle,
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and they published their work in this article,
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which you can find.
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And so in a couple of minutes,
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I'm just gonna talk about mindset,
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and that is the idea,
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Carol Dweck's work, put in the chat box for me,
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01:29:14.290 --> 01:29:18.323
yes or no, if you're familiar with Dweck's work on mindset.
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Because it has to do the attitude
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that people have about intelligence.
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Okay, a lot of people are,
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01:29:25.480 --> 01:29:27.820
some people are not, so briefly,
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I'll say what Dweck found was that most people
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have one of two ideas about intelligence.
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Either they think that you were born
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01:29:35.270 --> 01:29:37.197
with a certain amount of it,
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01:29:37.197 --> 01:29:38.223
it's not gonna change very much,
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01:29:39.058 --> 01:29:39.970
and she calls that a fixed mindset.
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01:29:39.970 --> 01:29:41.650
The other view is that you can grow
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01:29:41.650 --> 01:29:43.390
your intelligence with your actions,
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you can make yourself smarter.
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And this is very important because your reaction
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to a lot of things are based on your mindset.
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01:29:51.720 --> 01:29:53.900
People with a fixed mindset avoid challenges,
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01:29:53.900 --> 01:29:56.470
they give up very easily when they get to an obstacle,
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01:29:56.470 --> 01:29:58.150
they don't even expend any effort because
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01:29:58.150 --> 01:29:59.470
they think effort is fruitless,
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01:29:59.470 --> 01:30:02.266
'cause either they they're smart enough to do it
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01:30:02.266 --> 01:30:04.600
without trying or they're not smart enough to do it at all.
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01:30:04.600 --> 01:30:06.120
They ignore constructive criticism
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01:30:06.120 --> 01:30:08.900
and they find the success of others very threatening.
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01:30:08.900 --> 01:30:12.080
Whereas people with a growth mindset, embrace challenges,
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01:30:12.080 --> 01:30:13.870
they persist through obstacles,
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01:30:13.870 --> 01:30:16.610
they know that effort is the path to mastery,
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01:30:16.610 --> 01:30:17.850
they learn from criticism,
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and they're inspired when they see others succeed.
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01:30:21.016 --> 01:30:23.570
And this is just a little diagram that shows how,
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if you have a growth mindset, you're gonna grow,
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but with a fixed mindset, you're not.
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01:30:28.400 --> 01:30:30.340
Now last two poll questions,
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01:30:30.340 --> 01:30:33.680
what mindset about intelligence
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01:30:33.680 --> 01:30:36.860
do you think most students at UVM have?
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01:30:36.860 --> 01:30:40.050
Do you think they have mostly a fixed mindset
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01:30:40.050 --> 01:30:43.040
or a growth mindset?
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And I'll see what you're saying.
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01:30:45.810 --> 01:30:47.637
Oh, this is interesting.
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01:30:47.637 --> 01:30:50.436
So far everybody says fixed, okay,
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01:30:50.436 --> 01:30:52.194
here's one that says growth.
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01:30:52.194 --> 01:30:53.444
Okay, but most of us, 94,
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01:30:54.880 --> 01:30:57.080
okay, now it's 85%,
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01:30:57.080 --> 01:30:59.340
but still the vast majority of us think fixed.
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01:30:59.340 --> 01:31:01.330
And I actually find that that's the case,
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01:31:01.330 --> 01:31:03.680
especially for students who've done really, really well.
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01:31:03.680 --> 01:31:06.270
They've always been told they're very smart
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01:31:06.270 --> 01:31:07.940
and they're smarter than everybody else,
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01:31:07.940 --> 01:31:11.233
and they know that they were born that way.
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01:31:12.110 --> 01:31:13.030
Now, oh yeah,
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01:31:13.030 --> 01:31:14.810
exactly, I've always been bad at chemistry,
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01:31:14.810 --> 01:31:16.290
I just don't have the chemistry gene.
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01:31:16.290 --> 01:31:18.320
I see it a lot in math also.
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01:31:18.320 --> 01:31:20.580
What mindset about student intelligence
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01:31:20.580 --> 01:31:22.343
do you think most faculty have?
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01:31:24.453 --> 01:31:27.840
And tell me if that's fixed or growth, you think?
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01:31:27.840 --> 01:31:31.780
And we will see, I didn't ask this question earlier,
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01:31:31.780 --> 01:31:35.290
in the session this morning with general faculty,
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01:31:35.290 --> 01:31:38.840
but I find that typically general faculty say
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01:31:38.840 --> 01:31:41.790
that STEM faculty have a fixed mindset,
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01:31:41.790 --> 01:31:45.293
but STEM faculty always say that they have a growth mindset.
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01:31:46.367 --> 01:31:49.750
And so yeah, I'll stop it now.
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And I'm sure that most of you on this line
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01:31:52.170 --> 01:31:56.460
do have a growth mindset, but I had a very fixed mindset.
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01:31:56.460 --> 01:31:59.694
It changed once I learned this information,
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01:31:59.694 --> 01:32:02.060
but I thought that if a student flunked my first three tests
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01:32:02.060 --> 01:32:04.470
in organic chemistry and came to the office
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01:32:04.470 --> 01:32:05.980
and said they wanted to be a neurosurgeon,
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01:32:05.980 --> 01:32:07.110
what could they do?
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01:32:07.110 --> 01:32:09.490
I would say, let's talk about your backup plan.
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01:32:09.490 --> 01:32:12.940
I repent of that now, I'm sorry I said that,
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01:32:12.940 --> 01:32:16.573
but I had no idea that this was possible.
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01:32:17.580 --> 01:32:18.863
And okay, so we did that,
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01:32:20.239 --> 01:32:24.910
and oh yeah, here's an email from a student
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01:32:24.910 --> 01:32:27.050
who obviously had a fixed mindset,
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01:32:27.050 --> 01:32:28.130
he wanted me to tutor him.
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01:32:28.130 --> 01:32:30.230
He said he wasn't doing well in chemistry,
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01:32:31.117 --> 01:32:34.490
not he wasn't doing well, he wasn't good at chemistry,
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01:32:34.490 --> 01:32:35.850
and his grade was reflecting that.
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01:32:35.850 --> 01:32:37.120
He wanted me to tutor him,
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01:32:37.120 --> 01:32:39.670
I spent not one nanosecond tutoring this guy,
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01:32:39.670 --> 01:32:41.930
gave him one session like this,
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01:32:42.983 --> 01:32:44.643
to share the strategies I'm talking about.
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01:32:45.666 --> 01:32:48.342
And these was grades after and his grades before.
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01:32:48.342 --> 01:32:51.245
And he sent me the email that he ended up earning a 90, A,
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01:32:51.245 --> 01:32:52.078
and he said, I think what I did different
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01:32:52.078 --> 01:32:53.710
was make side notes in each chapter,
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01:32:53.710 --> 01:32:55.720
and as I progressed to the next chapter,
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01:32:55.720 --> 01:32:57.310
I was able to refer to these notes.
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01:32:57.310 --> 01:33:00.510
I would say that in chemistry,
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01:33:00.510 --> 01:33:05.510
everything builds from the previous topic, who knew?
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01:33:06.010 --> 01:33:08.020
Now, I'm glad he figured that out
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01:33:08.020 --> 01:33:11.308
because we actually talked about that in the session.
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01:33:11.308 --> 01:33:13.262
And I think that his faculty member thought
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01:33:13.262 --> 01:33:16.861
that by April 6th, of a course that started in January,
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01:33:16.861 --> 01:33:18.540
he would've figured out by now
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01:33:18.540 --> 01:33:20.750
that everything built from the previous topic.
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01:33:20.750 --> 01:33:23.491
But he didn't, and he didn't even have the book,
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01:33:23.491 --> 01:33:25.140
and I think I tell that story in the book.
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01:33:25.140 --> 01:33:26.770
But he didn't even know that there was a book
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01:33:26.770 --> 01:33:28.703
for the course before we met.
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01:33:30.028 --> 01:33:32.680
There's a study that links faculty attitudes on intelligence
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01:33:32.680 --> 01:33:34.290
to student success in STEM
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01:33:34.290 --> 01:33:37.060
with a large impact on minority student success.
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01:33:37.060 --> 01:33:40.100
What they found was that all students in the class
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01:33:40.976 --> 01:33:44.450
of a professor with a fixed mindset, I mean,
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01:33:44.450 --> 01:33:49.040
with a growth mindset did better, these did better.
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01:33:49.040 --> 01:33:52.410
And the white and Asian students,
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01:33:52.410 --> 01:33:55.110
the difference, the gap between their performance
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01:33:55.993 --> 01:33:57.779
and the performance of black, Latino,
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01:33:57.779 --> 01:34:01.170
and Native American students, that gap was cut in half.
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01:34:01.170 --> 01:34:04.212
And so I know one of your strategic goals in CMS
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01:34:04.212 --> 01:34:06.520
is to get rid of the discrepancy
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01:34:06.520 --> 01:34:08.820
between the success rates of those two groups,
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01:34:09.671 --> 01:34:10.940
and that's one way to do it.
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01:34:10.940 --> 01:34:12.360
Here is an interview with
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01:34:12.360 --> 01:34:15.210
a Princeton neuroscience graduate student
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01:34:15.210 --> 01:34:16.910
who came from a public high school
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01:34:18.714 --> 01:34:21.350
and she was making B's and C's her freshman year.
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01:34:21.350 --> 01:34:23.980
And she and her colleague thought that coming
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01:34:23.980 --> 01:34:25.570
from a public school,
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01:34:25.570 --> 01:34:26.740
that's all they were gonna be able to do.
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01:34:26.740 --> 01:34:27.890
'Cause they saw all these kids
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01:34:27.890 --> 01:34:30.750
from the private schools making the A's.
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01:34:30.750 --> 01:34:33.220
But she said the growth mindset in the book was so,
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01:34:33.220 --> 01:34:35.150
so important because before that I thought,
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01:34:35.150 --> 01:34:36.360
if you're smart, you're smart.
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01:34:36.360 --> 01:34:38.510
You came from a private high school, you're all set.
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01:34:38.510 --> 01:34:41.551
You came from a public high school, you can't even grow.
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01:34:41.551 --> 01:34:42.384
But then she learned that she could
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01:34:42.384 --> 01:34:45.600
and she got a C in her first neuro class,
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01:34:45.600 --> 01:34:47.550
the professor asked, why are you even majoring in neuro?
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01:34:47.550 --> 01:34:49.100
You having a C in my class.
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01:34:49.100 --> 01:34:52.690
But she stayed in, she got an A+ on her senior thesis,
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01:34:52.690 --> 01:34:54.920
she had all A's her senior year,
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01:34:54.920 --> 01:34:57.560
her last year taking all neuroscience courses.
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01:34:57.560 --> 01:34:59.770
And she said, if it wasn't for the growth mindset,
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01:34:59.770 --> 01:35:00.870
I wouldn't be here.
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01:35:00.870 --> 01:35:02.460
I now know that just because you're from
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01:35:02.460 --> 01:35:03.790
a public high school doesn't mean
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01:35:03.790 --> 01:35:05.290
you can't thrive at Princeton.
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01:35:06.193 --> 01:35:07.520
And you probably don't have a lot of students
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01:35:08.445 --> 01:35:09.920
who are leaving UVM because of a fixed mindset.
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01:35:09.920 --> 01:35:11.480
But I bet you have a lot of students
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01:35:11.480 --> 01:35:13.750
who are leaving STEM majors.
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01:35:13.750 --> 01:35:15.220
And if they have this information,
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01:35:15.220 --> 01:35:18.940
they will know that they can succeed.
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01:35:18.940 --> 01:35:19.830
You can read this later,
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01:35:19.830 --> 01:35:22.150
but this was a professor in California.
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01:35:22.150 --> 01:35:25.010
She had a student who had failed the first time
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01:35:25.970 --> 01:35:28.280
and she thought she was bad at biology,
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01:35:28.280 --> 01:35:31.630
but she liked this information on strategies and mindset.
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01:35:31.630 --> 01:35:33.510
She's getting an A this semester,
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01:35:33.510 --> 01:35:35.310
highest grade on the final exam.
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01:35:35.310 --> 01:35:36.320
She said, it gets better,
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01:35:36.320 --> 01:35:38.030
she wasn't doing all an intro physics,
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01:35:38.030 --> 01:35:41.030
the professor gave her the test back and said drop.
2213
01:35:41.030 --> 01:35:42.991
But she decided that she was good at physics too,
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01:35:42.991 --> 01:35:45.130
with this new growth mindset.
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01:35:45.130 --> 01:35:47.520
And she ended up with a B in that class also.
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01:35:47.520 --> 01:35:50.750
And so I like to share these stories with strategies.
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01:35:50.750 --> 01:35:53.940
HSTEM, I noticed one of your college goals
2218
01:35:53.940 --> 01:35:56.853
is to make students feel more included,
2219
01:35:57.870 --> 01:36:01.143
and this is a wonderful project that was started at Amherst.
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01:36:02.305 --> 01:36:04.070
And if you just Google that,
2221
01:36:04.070 --> 01:36:06.890
and this is actually the website for that,
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01:36:06.890 --> 01:36:09.670
this is a great space for students
2223
01:36:09.670 --> 01:36:12.993
to feel that they can bring their authentic selves
2224
01:36:12.993 --> 01:36:13.920
to the STEM arena.
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01:36:13.920 --> 01:36:15.260
And so, as we end,
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01:36:15.260 --> 01:36:18.040
I wanna end with this student
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01:36:18.040 --> 01:36:21.490
who was not passing any of his cums, almost none,
2228
01:36:21.490 --> 01:36:25.060
he passed one of his cums the first year.
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01:36:25.060 --> 01:36:26.040
We give eight a year,
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01:36:26.040 --> 01:36:28.160
they have to pass six within their first two years,
2231
01:36:28.160 --> 01:36:30.160
or they're kicked out of the PhD program.
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01:36:30.160 --> 01:36:32.530
He only passed one his first year,
2233
01:36:32.530 --> 01:36:35.360
but he learned the strategies and passed all five
2234
01:36:35.360 --> 01:36:37.700
the next year out of seven exams,
2235
01:36:37.700 --> 01:36:39.420
he didn't even need the eighth one.
2236
01:36:39.420 --> 01:36:42.910
And people in chemistry thought that
2237
01:36:42.910 --> 01:36:45.309
there's no way he was gonna pass five out of eight
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01:36:45.309 --> 01:36:48.910
if he only passed one out out of eight, but he did.
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01:36:48.910 --> 01:36:50.433
And he learned the strategies.
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01:36:51.457 --> 01:36:52.989
This is he, Dr. Algernon Kelley,
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01:36:52.989 --> 01:36:55.056
take a good look at this guy.
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01:36:55.056 --> 01:36:56.800
He's the only person I know on the planet
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01:36:58.434 --> 01:36:59.613
who has a PhD in chemistry now,
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01:36:59.613 --> 01:37:00.490
his is in analytical chemistry.
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01:37:00.490 --> 01:37:02.810
But he started every single college course
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01:37:02.810 --> 01:37:04.253
at the remedial level.
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01:37:05.296 --> 01:37:08.111
And so now he teaches these strategies everywhere he goes,
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01:37:08.111 --> 01:37:10.300
and he gets lots of emails, as you're gonna start getting,
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01:37:10.300 --> 01:37:12.510
as I get from students.
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01:37:12.510 --> 01:37:14.470
And I'd like to end with these three,
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01:37:14.470 --> 01:37:16.210
October 17th, the student writes,
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01:37:16.210 --> 01:37:18.070
I'm struggling, really wanna succeed,
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01:37:18.070 --> 01:37:20.060
but everything is just ending with a decent grade.
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01:37:20.060 --> 01:37:22.050
He was pre-med, he was getting C's.
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01:37:22.050 --> 01:37:24.220
I was hoping you could mentor me and guide me down the path
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01:37:24.220 --> 01:37:26.380
that will help me realize my true potential.
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01:37:26.380 --> 01:37:28.630
One week later made an 84 compared to 56
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01:37:28.630 --> 01:37:31.700
on my chemistry exam.
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01:37:31.700 --> 01:37:36.310
November 3rd, increased bio from 76 to 91.5.
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01:37:36.310 --> 01:37:40.155
I've honestly gained a sense of hope and confidence.
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01:37:40.155 --> 01:37:41.450
And that's what students lose
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01:37:41.450 --> 01:37:45.110
when they come with all the confidence in the world
2263
01:37:45.110 --> 01:37:47.080
that they're gonna take UVM by storm,
2264
01:37:47.080 --> 01:37:48.290
they're gonna be successful.
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01:37:48.290 --> 01:37:51.010
Then they get that first set of tests and quizzes back
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01:37:51.010 --> 01:37:52.270
and they are sunk.
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01:37:52.270 --> 01:37:55.070
But then this information can give it back to them.
2268
01:37:55.070 --> 01:37:56.510
My family and I are really grateful
2269
01:37:56.510 --> 01:37:59.056
you've taken the time to get me back on track.
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01:37:59.056 --> 01:38:00.280
And you see the difference in his attitude,
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01:38:00.280 --> 01:38:02.120
in his mood, I should say.
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01:38:02.120 --> 01:38:04.040
He goes from hello, Dr. Kelley,
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01:38:04.040 --> 01:38:06.260
hey Dr. Kelley, hey Dr. Kelley!
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01:38:06.260 --> 01:38:09.130
And so when students have that level of enthusiasm
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01:38:09.130 --> 01:38:12.580
about their courses, then it really makes a big difference.
2276
01:38:12.580 --> 01:38:13.970
So in conclusion,
2277
01:38:13.970 --> 01:38:16.700
we really can close this metacognitive equity gap,
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01:38:16.700 --> 01:38:19.100
we can help our STEM students be more successful
2279
01:38:19.967 --> 01:38:21.840
by teaching them how to learn, making the learning visible.
2280
01:38:21.840 --> 01:38:24.240
We can't judge their potential on their initial performance
2281
01:38:24.240 --> 01:38:25.820
and we can't let them do it either.
2282
01:38:25.820 --> 01:38:27.550
We gotta encourage them to persist,
2283
01:38:27.550 --> 01:38:29.320
even when they initially fail,
2284
01:38:29.320 --> 01:38:32.230
we gotta encourage them to use these metacognitive tools.
2285
01:38:32.230 --> 01:38:33.780
And these are some references,
2286
01:38:33.780 --> 01:38:34.900
these are some acknowledgements,
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01:38:34.900 --> 01:38:36.433
this is the faculty resource.
2288
01:38:37.307 --> 01:38:38.860
And if you really wanna increase the chances
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01:38:38.860 --> 01:38:40.770
that students are gonna use the strategies,
2290
01:38:40.770 --> 01:38:43.356
then please suggest that they read the book.
2291
01:38:43.356 --> 01:38:46.050
In fact, this is the first day I've ever
2292
01:38:46.050 --> 01:38:48.290
had this slide in here like this,
2293
01:38:48.290 --> 01:38:50.496
because I didn't want it to seem
2294
01:38:50.496 --> 01:38:52.788
like I was hawking my wares, you know,
2295
01:38:52.788 --> 01:38:55.546
trying to push students into reading the book.
2296
01:38:55.546 --> 01:38:56.379
But I've had faculty say, you know,
2297
01:38:56.379 --> 01:38:58.850
I need you to talk to my students.
2298
01:38:58.850 --> 01:39:00.846
And there were faculty who said, you know,
2299
01:39:00.846 --> 01:39:02.270
well, I told students, you know,
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01:39:02.270 --> 01:39:04.283
I saw that great workshop you did,
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01:39:05.256 --> 01:39:06.960
and I told the students the strategies,
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01:39:06.960 --> 01:39:08.420
but I can't get 'em to do it.
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01:39:08.420 --> 01:39:11.410
And it finally dawned on me only about six months ago,
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01:39:11.410 --> 01:39:14.450
that the difference may be that the faculty
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01:39:14.450 --> 01:39:15.390
are hearing it from me,
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01:39:15.390 --> 01:39:17.450
you're seeing all these wonderful examples,
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but then students are getting it from you
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where you don't have time to put in all this other stuff.
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But when they read the book,
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it starts off with my experience.
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I was a memorizer and I give lots of examples
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and they find it motivational,
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'cause I get emails from students.
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And so now I am unabashedly suggesting
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that you have students read the book,
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and actually what I would love,
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I don't know if I have any takers,
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but if there's someone who could have this book,
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maybe as a resource, you could recommend it,
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or resource, or whatever for a class,
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'cause I'd like to see if reading the book,
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if a class reads the book, if it makes a difference.
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This is the one for parents
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and I am going to now I think that's the end of it.
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This is interesting, I guess that really is the end,
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because it will not let me, and oh yeah,
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that's the end, and no wonder won't let me.
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Okay, so I'm gonna stop presenting and I will end this,
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and I just wanna a thank you to everyone who has come.
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I know there's a lot of other things
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you needed to be doing with your time this afternoon,
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but you decided to spend this time with us.
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So thank you, thank you, thank you.
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And I will turn it back over to CTL.
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Well, we just wanna thank you so much for being here,
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Dr. McGuire, this has been wonderful.
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And you can see with the enthusiasm in the chat
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that other folks got so much out of this as well.
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Oh yes, and I see a lot of thanks to me.
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I wanna thank you because you are
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in the trenches doing all the hard work.
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I just sit in my study and talk
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to wonderful people like you, so thank you.
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And on behalf of your students,
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they are very fortunate to have you.
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And when you have this additional set of tools
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in your arsenal where you can teach them, aah,
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100 outta 10 stars, aah, Alexandria. (hums)
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And I loved the feedback that I got from everybody,
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so thank you, thank you, thank you.
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And I can hang on in answering other questions
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if anybody has them,
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but please don't feel compelled to stay on.
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I've enjoyed you, have a great rest of the week,
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and have a wonderful rest of the semester.