WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.070 --> 00:00:02.903 This before. 2 00:00:02.903 --> 00:00:05.190 So Alan, you're gonna have to help me, 3 00:00:05.190 --> 00:00:08.313 but we'll call the meeting to order at 12:21. 4 00:00:11.820 --> 00:00:15.990 Approve the minutes. You all got the minutes and the notes 5 00:00:15.990 --> 00:00:19.050 or the minutes from the previous meeting with the agenda. 6 00:00:19.050 --> 00:00:21.540 And so now I have to vote to approve them. 7 00:00:21.540 --> 00:00:23.190 Can I have a motion to approve the it? 8 00:00:23.190 --> 00:00:26.580 I motion to approve but with an amendment to the date? 9 00:00:26.580 --> 00:00:28.290 That'll come after. 10 00:00:28.290 --> 00:00:29.310 Okay. 11 00:00:29.310 --> 00:00:31.020 Does anyone second that motion? 12 00:00:31.020 --> 00:00:32.670 I second. 13 00:00:32.670 --> 00:00:33.503 Thank you. 14 00:00:34.592 --> 00:00:35.509 Discussion. 15 00:00:36.653 --> 00:00:38.827 Just to the date should be October 1st. 16 00:00:40.287 --> 00:00:42.287 I opposed to the day of today we debank. 17 00:00:43.380 --> 00:00:44.213 You hadn't brought that up. 18 00:00:44.213 --> 00:00:46.087 I was gonna mention, that's fine. 19 00:00:47.147 --> 00:00:49.673 Going, that's today. Minutes from today. 20 00:00:54.480 --> 00:00:56.963 Okay. So do we approve before? 21 00:00:57.907 --> 00:00:59.523 All those in favor? 22 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:10.020 Anyone not in favor or reciting unanimous. 23 00:01:13.776 --> 00:01:15.363 That's good. 24 00:01:15.363 --> 00:01:16.196 Great. 25 00:01:17.590 --> 00:01:20.703 So now we have our public comment period. 26 00:01:23.130 --> 00:01:25.570 Is there anyone here from the public comment? 27 00:01:33.521 --> 00:01:35.215 Amanda's hand raised? 28 00:01:35.215 --> 00:01:37.215 I dunno, that may have been from voting. 29 00:01:38.820 --> 00:01:40.710 Amanda, is your hand up from Legacy 30 00:01:40.710 --> 00:01:43.080 or did you have a comment or question? 31 00:01:43.080 --> 00:01:45.007 Sorry. Nope, that was from voting. 32 00:01:45.007 --> 00:01:46.590 Excellent. Okay. 33 00:01:50.582 --> 00:01:51.415 All right. 34 00:01:51.415 --> 00:01:54.150 Well, no public comment period. 35 00:01:54.150 --> 00:01:57.600 We'll move on to meet and greet with Linda Schadler 36 00:01:57.600 --> 00:01:59.103 Right on time. Almost. 37 00:02:00.210 --> 00:02:01.923 James Provost. 38 00:02:03.300 --> 00:02:05.250 So thank you for inviting me. 39 00:02:05.250 --> 00:02:09.420 I am going around to as many units on campus as we can think 40 00:02:09.420 --> 00:02:12.600 of to say hello so that you know what I look like 41 00:02:12.600 --> 00:02:14.670 and to talk about few things that I'm trying 42 00:02:14.670 --> 00:02:18.720 to focus on in my four, six, eight, 10 or 12 months 43 00:02:18.720 --> 00:02:20.313 in this role. TBD. 44 00:02:21.300 --> 00:02:23.640 And then actually one of them ties into something 45 00:02:23.640 --> 00:02:26.250 I just wanna get a little feedback 46 00:02:26.250 --> 00:02:30.603 on from you all based on some feedback I've already gotten. 47 00:02:31.590 --> 00:02:33.570 So in addition to just trying 48 00:02:33.570 --> 00:02:35.910 to keep the campus momentum going in all the directions 49 00:02:35.910 --> 00:02:39.090 that we have been going, I'm focusing on four things. 50 00:02:39.090 --> 00:02:40.740 One is the graduate college. 51 00:02:40.740 --> 00:02:42.420 As you know we're trying to increase the number 52 00:02:42.420 --> 00:02:45.240 of graduate students and strengthen our graduate programs. 53 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:49.680 So working with folder on the structure, the financing, 54 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:52.927 the policies coming out of the graduate college 55 00:02:52.927 --> 00:02:56.130 and I think we're making some progress there. 56 00:02:56.130 --> 00:02:58.710 So having a good time on that part of it. 57 00:02:58.710 --> 00:03:02.610 Second is finding places where administrative units 58 00:03:02.610 --> 00:03:05.940 and academic units can better partner for student success. 59 00:03:05.940 --> 00:03:07.376 So a great example 60 00:03:07.376 --> 00:03:11.100 of success would be the course in CAS 61 00:03:11.100 --> 00:03:12.870 and the course in STEMS for students 62 00:03:12.870 --> 00:03:15.750 with below about a 2.3 GPA 63 00:03:15.750 --> 00:03:19.590 where they are being taught in a very focused way. 64 00:03:19.590 --> 00:03:23.640 Time management, study skills, resources, 65 00:03:23.640 --> 00:03:25.200 radical self-care. 66 00:03:25.200 --> 00:03:27.450 And that's primarily administrative units coming 67 00:03:27.450 --> 00:03:30.960 into the academic units to support that program. 68 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:33.150 Places where maybe we wanna see a little bit 69 00:03:33.150 --> 00:03:36.030 more integration might be around student conduct 70 00:03:36.030 --> 00:03:37.860 or the CARES program 71 00:03:37.860 --> 00:03:40.200 or looking for all sorts of ideas 72 00:03:40.200 --> 00:03:43.740 on how to better lead to student success 73 00:03:43.740 --> 00:03:44.853 with that integration. 74 00:03:46.230 --> 00:03:49.830 The third thing is digitalizing our systems. 75 00:03:49.830 --> 00:03:52.350 So we have some great examples, course leave 76 00:03:52.350 --> 00:03:56.583 or high submitter proposal or you know, external grants. 77 00:03:57.840 --> 00:04:00.600 A few other things where it's really digitalized. 78 00:04:00.600 --> 00:04:02.910 You submit online, you could track it. 79 00:04:02.910 --> 00:04:05.730 Signatures happen online, you know, 80 00:04:05.730 --> 00:04:06.870 approvals back and forth. 81 00:04:06.870 --> 00:04:08.370 People some processes 82 00:04:08.370 --> 00:04:11.190 and people admin would be another example. 83 00:04:11.190 --> 00:04:12.930 But there are a lot of processes on campus 84 00:04:12.930 --> 00:04:16.200 where we take a word file, we turn it into a PDF 85 00:04:16.200 --> 00:04:17.760 and we're emailing it around 86 00:04:17.760 --> 00:04:20.010 and it's often hard to track what's going on. 87 00:04:20.940 --> 00:04:23.370 So looking for some low hanging fruit 88 00:04:23.370 --> 00:04:26.160 to be putting those new processes in place 89 00:04:26.160 --> 00:04:29.070 or you know, different way of putting that process through. 90 00:04:29.070 --> 00:04:33.330 We're getting a demo from InfoReady I think next week, 91 00:04:33.330 --> 00:04:36.600 which is the new process the graduate college has been using 92 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:39.180 for even just submission of approval 93 00:04:39.180 --> 00:04:40.890 for faculty into the graduate college. 94 00:04:40.890 --> 00:04:42.300 And it seems to be a nice system. 95 00:04:42.300 --> 00:04:44.044 So that might be a, 96 00:04:44.044 --> 00:04:45.090 and that's supposed to be very easy to use. 97 00:04:45.090 --> 00:04:47.100 So we're gonna take a look at that. 98 00:04:47.100 --> 00:04:50.220 And then last is campus climate. 99 00:04:50.220 --> 00:04:53.640 And I wrote, I honor our common ground values 100 00:04:53.640 --> 00:04:56.760 in our relationship with faculty and staff around employment 101 00:04:56.760 --> 00:04:58.110 and shared governance. 102 00:04:58.110 --> 00:04:59.370 So that's recognizing 103 00:04:59.370 --> 00:05:02.730 that we have three union negotiations going on. 104 00:05:02.730 --> 00:05:06.360 But also for me, I came from a campus six 105 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:07.193 and a half years ago 106 00:05:07.193 --> 00:05:10.230 now that did not have functional shared governance, 107 00:05:10.230 --> 00:05:13.560 and it really limited the university's ability 108 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:16.110 to move forward and communication, 109 00:05:16.110 --> 00:05:19.770 and therefore getting the best decisions made 110 00:05:19.770 --> 00:05:22.710 because there wasn't a great mechanism for getting input. 111 00:05:22.710 --> 00:05:26.760 So I really respect UVMs even though conversations 112 00:05:26.760 --> 00:05:29.970 are not always easy around faculty shared governance 113 00:05:29.970 --> 00:05:31.197 and staff shared governance. 114 00:05:31.197 --> 00:05:33.480 And so I just wanted to make sure I said that. 115 00:05:33.480 --> 00:05:36.630 And lastly there it's, "I wrote Celebrate UBM 116 00:05:36.630 --> 00:05:38.700 more with levity and lighthearted fund." 117 00:05:38.700 --> 00:05:43.350 So some simple things that we've already started to do. 118 00:05:43.350 --> 00:05:46.530 The president's office gets flowers from events 119 00:05:46.530 --> 00:05:49.800 that have already happened and there's sometimes four 120 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:51.630 or five bouquets sitting there. 121 00:05:51.630 --> 00:05:53.400 So I've started to put a little thank you note 122 00:05:53.400 --> 00:05:55.320 and deliver those two units 123 00:05:55.320 --> 00:05:58.980 around campus actually so far Waterman and CAS. 124 00:05:58.980 --> 00:06:01.593 So, but I will start to extend the circle. 125 00:06:03.510 --> 00:06:05.220 And so looking for other ideas 126 00:06:05.220 --> 00:06:07.950 about what we can do that's doesn't cost a lot of money, 127 00:06:07.950 --> 00:06:09.600 that might help build community 128 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:11.460 and celebrate each other more. 129 00:06:11.460 --> 00:06:14.760 We work in this beautiful place with incredible people 130 00:06:14.760 --> 00:06:16.470 and we turn out an incredible students. 131 00:06:16.470 --> 00:06:20.490 So how do we celebrate that more and one example 132 00:06:20.490 --> 00:06:22.230 or idea that has come forward, 133 00:06:22.230 --> 00:06:25.410 I think you all are calling them affinity groups as a plan 134 00:06:25.410 --> 00:06:29.370 for how we bring faculty and staff together around hiking 135 00:06:29.370 --> 00:06:32.880 and knitting and other things that people like to do. 136 00:06:32.880 --> 00:06:35.552 I got an idea from the libraries 137 00:06:35.552 --> 00:06:40.552 or even just teams that people can join where you post, 138 00:06:40.687 --> 00:06:43.050 "Hey I'm gonna go hike final a mountain at, you know, 139 00:06:43.050 --> 00:06:45.840 noon on Sunday, wanna come, anybody wanna come?" 140 00:06:45.840 --> 00:06:49.380 Sort of like meetups before the UVM community. 141 00:06:49.380 --> 00:06:52.920 And I talked to Chris Layman about this idea 142 00:06:52.920 --> 00:06:56.520 and I think that it's moving forward in some form 143 00:06:56.520 --> 00:06:59.520 where the idea would be that the funding 144 00:06:59.520 --> 00:07:01.590 for the affinity groups 145 00:07:01.590 --> 00:07:03.990 and I'm not sure that's the what we wanna keep calling them. 146 00:07:03.990 --> 00:07:05.580 But anyway, those groups that y'all, 147 00:07:05.580 --> 00:07:08.100 that some of you have talked about anyway, 148 00:07:08.100 --> 00:07:09.780 funding would come from HR 149 00:07:09.780 --> 00:07:12.480 but the idea would be that the faculty senate 150 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:16.920 and the staff council would kind of form a joint committee 151 00:07:16.920 --> 00:07:20.253 to lead that, not have it led by a staff person. 152 00:07:22.260 --> 00:07:26.040 I think we feel that the funding's there, 153 00:07:26.040 --> 00:07:27.930 but if we want it to have longevity 154 00:07:27.930 --> 00:07:30.810 and agility to move with people's interests, 155 00:07:30.810 --> 00:07:33.240 you don't want it under a specific administrator 156 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:34.920 who might change at any moment 157 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:36.090 and might have a different feeling. 158 00:07:36.090 --> 00:07:40.232 If it's in this, in the shared governance purview, 159 00:07:40.232 --> 00:07:42.570 then I think that has more stability 160 00:07:42.570 --> 00:07:44.910 and will more as the interest 161 00:07:44.910 --> 00:07:46.683 of the faculty and staff change. 162 00:07:47.640 --> 00:07:50.518 But I'm open to many other ideas. 163 00:07:50.518 --> 00:07:52.710 One thing I think I'll be doing is walking 164 00:07:52.710 --> 00:07:56.280 around with Rally Cat on the last day of classes, 165 00:07:56.280 --> 00:07:58.860 which will be a big Green and Gold day handing 166 00:07:58.860 --> 00:08:02.067 out meal cards to the top few people I see 167 00:08:02.067 --> 00:08:04.533 who have really green and golden it out. 168 00:08:07.140 --> 00:08:09.570 But, and then that might become a more regular event 169 00:08:09.570 --> 00:08:11.610 but we're gonna just try it for the last day of classes. 170 00:08:11.610 --> 00:08:15.363 So interested in other ideas you might have around that. 171 00:08:16.470 --> 00:08:19.170 Yeah, thanks to Kelly for letting me take her bases 172 00:08:19.170 --> 00:08:21.510 around campus 'cause they haven't all come back yet, 173 00:08:21.510 --> 00:08:23.850 so if you happen to get one, please return 174 00:08:23.850 --> 00:08:26.463 it so that we can give some to the next people. 175 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:29.393 That's my spiel. 176 00:08:29.393 --> 00:08:32.193 I'm happy to take any questions or comments or ideas. 177 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:37.157 Yeah, I'd be curious to know what we could do to get a, 178 00:08:37.157 --> 00:08:40.170 like a bigger response around Green and Gold Day. 179 00:08:40.170 --> 00:08:44.370 'Cause I feel like there's a lot to work with there 180 00:08:44.370 --> 00:08:48.900 and Spirit is such a connector for staff 181 00:08:48.900 --> 00:08:50.820 and students and faculty 182 00:08:50.820 --> 00:08:53.820 and like you were saying celebratory, right? 183 00:08:53.820 --> 00:08:58.820 So I think we need that. We need to focus on the joy. 184 00:08:59.190 --> 00:09:01.320 Yeah so I would love to say every Friday's Green 185 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:03.893 and Gold Day, we haven't done that yet. 186 00:09:03.893 --> 00:09:06.890 But maybe that would be something for the staff council to, 187 00:09:06.890 --> 00:09:08.250 to start announcing 188 00:09:08.250 --> 00:09:11.460 and say, "Hey let's make every Friday Green and Gold day." 189 00:09:11.460 --> 00:09:14.100 And you know, maybe we could do a clock test. 190 00:09:14.100 --> 00:09:16.140 Oh that's the walking around with Rally Cat 191 00:09:16.140 --> 00:09:19.200 would be whoever I happen to see, you know. 192 00:09:19.200 --> 00:09:20.880 But we could do something more formal. 193 00:09:20.880 --> 00:09:23.163 Who was doing the door decorating? 194 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:25.500 Is that social committee? 195 00:09:25.500 --> 00:09:26.333 Yeah. 196 00:09:27.278 --> 00:09:30.028 And maybe we can weave that into something like that. 197 00:09:31.262 --> 00:09:33.210 And so far the things that I would be handing 198 00:09:33.210 --> 00:09:37.170 out are things that are just sitting in the Provost's office 199 00:09:37.170 --> 00:09:39.300 that weren't used for some event in the past. 200 00:09:39.300 --> 00:09:41.160 Like I haven't invested any new dollars 201 00:09:41.160 --> 00:09:43.920 and we we're actually make sure the meal cards work. 202 00:09:43.920 --> 00:09:46.110 It's how old they are but if not, 203 00:09:46.110 --> 00:09:48.816 we're hoping we can exchange them that work. 204 00:09:48.816 --> 00:09:51.000 And the other thing I have is these wooden boxes 205 00:09:51.000 --> 00:09:53.973 that have a wooden pen in them are really cool. 206 00:09:59.520 --> 00:10:02.490 I think that the power of the staff 207 00:10:02.490 --> 00:10:04.530 to have an impact on the students 208 00:10:04.530 --> 00:10:07.860 and the faculty around this is huge. 209 00:10:07.860 --> 00:10:11.010 Just huge. So if you're willing to partner on this 210 00:10:11.010 --> 00:10:13.830 and come up with million ideas, I would be thrilled 211 00:10:13.830 --> 00:10:17.550 because you hear the smiling faces 212 00:10:17.550 --> 00:10:20.668 that they see every day when they get things done. 213 00:10:20.668 --> 00:10:22.160 So. 214 00:10:22.160 --> 00:10:24.420 No we could figure that out between, 215 00:10:24.420 --> 00:10:26.070 'cause we have community engagement 216 00:10:26.070 --> 00:10:29.220 and maybe that lives there so that seems like 217 00:10:29.220 --> 00:10:31.293 more campus centric. 218 00:10:33.180 --> 00:10:34.920 And I'm happy to come to anything 219 00:10:34.920 --> 00:10:35.990 and yell, you know, go chat them out 220 00:10:35.990 --> 00:10:37.953 or whatever you want me to say. 221 00:10:42.150 --> 00:10:43.620 We've also, we didn't get a chance 222 00:10:43.620 --> 00:10:45.090 to talk about this last night 223 00:10:45.090 --> 00:10:47.580 when we were talking about the food insecurity, 224 00:10:47.580 --> 00:10:50.520 but we've tried to partner with events 225 00:10:50.520 --> 00:10:52.620 with donations to Rally Cat too. 226 00:10:52.620 --> 00:10:54.720 Like I don't know if we've had a lot of traction. 227 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:58.380 We definitely have it for the Ben, the holiday Bizarre 228 00:10:58.380 --> 00:10:59.460 and the benefits fair. 229 00:10:59.460 --> 00:11:01.800 I think I saw, I think the benefits fair is gonna do it 230 00:11:01.800 --> 00:11:03.570 but when we do like the tours, 231 00:11:03.570 --> 00:11:05.100 have we started collecting things 232 00:11:05.100 --> 00:11:07.620 when we do the campus tours? 233 00:11:07.620 --> 00:11:08.453 Not that I know. 234 00:11:08.453 --> 00:11:10.325 We'll might be able to do that too. 235 00:11:10.325 --> 00:11:11.158 So. 236 00:11:12.930 --> 00:11:15.270 Yeah, I'm hoping we can also just get a better partnership 237 00:11:15.270 --> 00:11:17.553 with Vermont Food Bank. 238 00:11:19.590 --> 00:11:22.923 Question from Elise Liv has her hand up in Teams. 239 00:11:23.974 --> 00:11:25.238 Hi. 240 00:11:25.238 --> 00:11:28.170 Hi there. My name is Liv. Nice to meet you. 241 00:11:28.170 --> 00:11:30.960 I'm sorry I'm not there in person. I'm over in Waterman. 242 00:11:30.960 --> 00:11:32.373 So hello from Waterman. 243 00:11:33.930 --> 00:11:36.360 Something that I'm on the Community Engagement Committee 244 00:11:36.360 --> 00:11:38.460 and I know that's something that we talked about last year 245 00:11:38.460 --> 00:11:40.140 and I think is still something that we wanted 246 00:11:40.140 --> 00:11:43.350 to explore this year was potentially a volunteer day 247 00:11:43.350 --> 00:11:45.390 or volunteer time 248 00:11:45.390 --> 00:11:49.200 or potentially volunteer paid time for the UVM community 249 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:52.200 to come together either in, you know, 250 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:55.170 their current groups within their own departments and units 251 00:11:55.170 --> 00:11:57.480 or kind of collaborate across departments 252 00:11:57.480 --> 00:12:01.260 and units to connect more with the community. 253 00:12:01.260 --> 00:12:04.650 But that's something that I feel like could be a potential 254 00:12:04.650 --> 00:12:05.730 great partnership on. 255 00:12:05.730 --> 00:12:07.680 I'm not sure exactly Linda 256 00:12:07.680 --> 00:12:10.470 if that's something that would fall under you 257 00:12:10.470 --> 00:12:13.350 or if that's an example that you'd be looking for, 258 00:12:13.350 --> 00:12:15.240 but just wanted to put that on the table. 259 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:18.270 I know there's a lot of moving parts with that one so. 260 00:12:18.270 --> 00:12:19.710 Yeah, I mean it's a great idea. 261 00:12:19.710 --> 00:12:21.390 You're right, there's moving parts in terms 262 00:12:21.390 --> 00:12:23.700 of keeping offices staffed while we do it. 263 00:12:23.700 --> 00:12:27.214 But let me talk to Patty and Chris about it. 264 00:12:27.214 --> 00:12:29.340 The campus I came from, we did that 265 00:12:29.340 --> 00:12:31.800 and it was really meaningful. 266 00:12:31.800 --> 00:12:33.270 It was usually just a half a day 267 00:12:33.270 --> 00:12:36.210 but yeah it was good. 268 00:12:37.710 --> 00:12:41.430 And then a second comment is just that as part 269 00:12:41.430 --> 00:12:45.600 of the staff appreciation week that happens in September, 270 00:12:45.600 --> 00:12:50.310 we bought a lot of free cones from the dairy bar 271 00:12:50.310 --> 00:12:52.260 and we have quite a few of those left over. 272 00:12:52.260 --> 00:12:55.720 So if you're looking for other handouts potentially 273 00:12:57.360 --> 00:13:00.030 while you're with Rally Cat, let me know. 274 00:13:00.030 --> 00:13:01.500 We have them in human resources. 275 00:13:01.500 --> 00:13:05.250 That could be something else to give out. 276 00:13:05.250 --> 00:13:08.373 That's awesome. Yes. Nothing's better than ice cream. 277 00:13:10.230 --> 00:13:11.970 Thank you for that offer. 278 00:13:11.970 --> 00:13:12.803 Thank you. 279 00:13:14.130 --> 00:13:16.080 A comment in the chat from Cindy, 280 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:18.000 we might wanna have explain a little bit more. 281 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:21.183 She says how about a pay it forward incentive? 282 00:13:24.073 --> 00:13:26.433 Can you explain a little more? 283 00:13:27.510 --> 00:13:29.147 Well maybe. 284 00:13:29.147 --> 00:13:31.437 I mean I know what pay it forward is, 285 00:13:31.437 --> 00:13:33.270 but I'm wondering what you mean 286 00:13:33.270 --> 00:13:35.073 for how we incentivize it here. 287 00:13:36.410 --> 00:13:39.870 I don't know, I have, I'm just kind of putting 288 00:13:39.870 --> 00:13:44.870 it out there to see what anybody else thinks about it. 289 00:13:44.910 --> 00:13:48.450 I love the idea of paying it forward 290 00:13:48.450 --> 00:13:50.640 and I think it catches on pretty quickly 291 00:13:50.640 --> 00:13:54.420 so we could maybe tie it into a green and gold theme 292 00:13:54.420 --> 00:13:58.020 or any special events either you know, 293 00:13:58.020 --> 00:14:01.533 the getting food for Rally Cat Cupboard. 294 00:14:04.020 --> 00:14:04.853 I don't know, 295 00:14:04.853 --> 00:14:06.880 I think we would need some brainstorming. 296 00:14:07.830 --> 00:14:11.400 We do Staff Years of Service Awards 297 00:14:11.400 --> 00:14:13.290 and a lot of people are choosing 298 00:14:13.290 --> 00:14:15.510 to potentially not select a gift 299 00:14:15.510 --> 00:14:17.940 for their Staff Years of Service Award. 300 00:14:17.940 --> 00:14:21.270 So they could choose to pay that gift forward 301 00:14:21.270 --> 00:14:24.210 potentially rather than them collecting the gift themself. 302 00:14:24.210 --> 00:14:25.683 That could be an opportunity. 303 00:14:26.640 --> 00:14:28.890 Yeah, good idea. 304 00:14:28.890 --> 00:14:33.420 And then a couple years ago our division had, 305 00:14:33.420 --> 00:14:38.100 we made up some just really basic appreciation kind 306 00:14:38.100 --> 00:14:41.400 of peer to peer appreciation cards 307 00:14:41.400 --> 00:14:45.030 and we could send one to either a team 308 00:14:45.030 --> 00:14:47.160 that we worked with that we really appreciated 309 00:14:47.160 --> 00:14:48.930 and it wasn't just within our division 310 00:14:48.930 --> 00:14:51.120 but we could send it to you know, 311 00:14:51.120 --> 00:14:52.447 the Athletics Department saying like, 312 00:14:52.447 --> 00:14:55.050 "Hey you guys do a great job putting the games on." 313 00:14:55.050 --> 00:14:58.230 Or to the print mail shop or a job they did 314 00:14:58.230 --> 00:15:02.168 or the custodian who just really takes a good, 315 00:15:02.168 --> 00:15:05.520 takes good care of your office or your building. 316 00:15:05.520 --> 00:15:08.670 But just little cards that you could have at your desk, 317 00:15:08.670 --> 00:15:12.360 and whenever you felt like giving somebody 318 00:15:12.360 --> 00:15:14.883 some extra thanks, you can do it. 319 00:15:15.732 --> 00:15:17.940 I think that thing is strong. 320 00:15:17.940 --> 00:15:21.330 And Sam's a couple years ago we did warm fuzzies 321 00:15:21.330 --> 00:15:24.210 and cold prickly, you know the little ball 322 00:15:24.210 --> 00:15:25.620 with the eyes on them? 323 00:15:25.620 --> 00:15:26.453 The bubble eyes. 324 00:15:27.870 --> 00:15:30.450 Well yeah I still have one. 325 00:15:30.450 --> 00:15:33.900 Maybe we could get Rally Cat warm fuzzy stick. 326 00:15:33.900 --> 00:15:35.650 Maybe a little bigger than the ones 327 00:15:37.902 --> 00:15:40.502 something silly We could do a crappy project making. 328 00:15:43.080 --> 00:15:44.430 Alright, well I don't wanna take up too much 329 00:15:44.430 --> 00:15:45.780 of your time and thank you very much. 330 00:15:45.780 --> 00:15:46.800 Those are great ideas then. 331 00:15:46.800 --> 00:15:48.829 Thank you for the friends and family. 332 00:15:48.829 --> 00:15:50.160 and yeah, 333 00:15:50.160 --> 00:15:52.560 Kelly's got some great things she's gonna share. 334 00:15:53.640 --> 00:15:54.940 Thank you have a good day. 335 00:15:58.110 --> 00:15:59.616 And also for two. 336 00:15:59.616 --> 00:16:02.144 It's really open. 337 00:16:02.144 --> 00:16:02.977 It's really real lost. 338 00:16:02.977 --> 00:16:07.350 Yeah. Where do you want me to, 339 00:16:07.350 --> 00:16:10.136 do you have a clicker to advance the slides? 340 00:16:10.136 --> 00:16:12.360 My mouse. 341 00:16:12.360 --> 00:16:14.138 I let you know what I need you to advance. 342 00:16:14.138 --> 00:16:14.997 That would be the way to go. 343 00:16:14.997 --> 00:16:16.560 Are we gonna be looking over here? 344 00:16:16.560 --> 00:16:17.970 Yes. I don't know. 345 00:16:19.494 --> 00:16:20.483 Need to move a little bit. 346 00:16:20.483 --> 00:16:21.920 Whether I can make this work. 347 00:16:21.920 --> 00:16:24.830 Am I in anybody's way that... 348 00:16:27.543 --> 00:16:29.710 Let's see where it goes. 349 00:16:37.800 --> 00:16:41.070 Yeah, I'm excited to hear it again. It's new, it's improved. 350 00:16:41.070 --> 00:16:41.903 I've heard 351 00:16:44.112 --> 00:16:46.560 So I, should we introduce Kelly? 352 00:16:46.560 --> 00:16:48.960 You want me to introduce Kelly? 353 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:52.410 I'm Malley, Head of presidential events 354 00:16:52.410 --> 00:16:54.270 but you have a different title. 355 00:16:54.270 --> 00:16:57.180 Senior Coordinator, Presidential Events and Protocol now. 356 00:16:57.180 --> 00:17:00.630 Thank you. And Kelly's here to talk 357 00:17:00.630 --> 00:17:02.163 with us about commencement. 358 00:17:04.207 --> 00:17:06.057 Can you all see that in Teams Land? 359 00:17:07.903 --> 00:17:09.996 You can see it but you don't see it here. 360 00:17:09.996 --> 00:17:11.520 Yes we can. 361 00:17:11.520 --> 00:17:12.690 Yep. 362 00:17:12.690 --> 00:17:13.590 Right. Hang out. 363 00:17:15.570 --> 00:17:18.470 Play with some settings here because we can't see it here. 364 00:17:26.520 --> 00:17:29.070 Where I did just stop sharing it so it's okay. 365 00:17:32.724 --> 00:17:36.813 Struggled and I made it with Ellen's help. 366 00:17:41.970 --> 00:17:44.973 Maybe as a gift someone could get me the book Robert Hood. 367 00:17:47.400 --> 00:17:49.180 Oh I never thought to do that. 368 00:17:55.920 --> 00:17:57.822 Right. Look at that. 369 00:17:57.822 --> 00:17:59.356 It's like, I dunno what I'm doing- 370 00:17:59.356 --> 00:18:00.689 Screen's here. 371 00:18:04.715 --> 00:18:05.702 You don't have like 372 00:18:05.702 --> 00:18:07.140 where maybe I should sit next to Alan. 373 00:18:07.140 --> 00:18:08.580 We're gonna do musical chairs 374 00:18:08.580 --> 00:18:10.560 just 'cause I feel like that might be easier. 375 00:18:10.560 --> 00:18:12.000 I think tap on. 376 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:13.473 Yeah, it's perfect. 377 00:18:15.720 --> 00:18:18.873 You guys still see the the PowerPoint Teams Land? 378 00:18:20.940 --> 00:18:22.329 Yes, we can. 379 00:18:22.329 --> 00:18:24.210 Thumbs up. Excellent. 380 00:18:24.210 --> 00:18:26.370 So thanks for the intro Jen, 381 00:18:26.370 --> 00:18:27.870 I'm gonna warn you this is scripted 382 00:18:27.870 --> 00:18:30.390 'cause I have so much information I need to get through. 383 00:18:30.390 --> 00:18:33.300 I wanna make sure I cover all. 384 00:18:33.300 --> 00:18:36.180 So lots of information on this presentation. 385 00:18:36.180 --> 00:18:38.760 You probably argue it's all important. 386 00:18:38.760 --> 00:18:41.340 Just a quick little bit about me. 387 00:18:41.340 --> 00:18:44.070 I've been a staff member at EBM for 16 years now 388 00:18:44.070 --> 00:18:47.970 and I've been planning UVM's Commencement for 13, including 389 00:18:47.970 --> 00:18:49.560 during the COVID pandemic. 390 00:18:49.560 --> 00:18:52.590 So I recognize how important this rite of passages 391 00:18:52.590 --> 00:18:54.900 for our students and their families. 392 00:18:54.900 --> 00:18:56.070 UVM has consistently 393 00:18:56.070 --> 00:18:58.980 provided an incredible commencement weekend experience 394 00:18:58.980 --> 00:19:00.300 for our grads and their families 395 00:19:00.300 --> 00:19:02.400 and we wanna continue with that tradition 396 00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:03.990 in making this memorable, 397 00:19:03.990 --> 00:19:07.260 meaningful and special for everyone involved. 398 00:19:07.260 --> 00:19:10.830 Numerous factors have led us to look at a new model 399 00:19:10.830 --> 00:19:13.106 for commencement that's being proposed. 400 00:19:13.106 --> 00:19:16.800 Note this is a proposal still the process is ongoing, 401 00:19:16.800 --> 00:19:19.890 but I'm gonna stress that change will have to happen 402 00:19:19.890 --> 00:19:22.390 for reasons I'm gonna outline in the presentation. 403 00:19:28.200 --> 00:19:29.370 So. 404 00:19:29.370 --> 00:19:30.203 Sure. 405 00:19:32.490 --> 00:19:35.040 All right, you can do it one more time. 406 00:19:35.040 --> 00:19:37.290 So why are we re-imagining commencement? 407 00:19:37.290 --> 00:19:41.430 The 2024 Commencement was extraordinary if you were there, 408 00:19:41.430 --> 00:19:42.720 we had a record turnout. 409 00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:46.380 The weather cooperated attendees were in a celebratory mood, 410 00:19:46.380 --> 00:19:48.120 but we had some fundamental issues 411 00:19:48.120 --> 00:19:49.470 with our current commencement model 412 00:19:49.470 --> 00:19:52.650 and some serious constraints to help frame our constraints 413 00:19:52.650 --> 00:19:55.110 to provide some background for anyone who's unfamiliar 414 00:19:55.110 --> 00:19:56.790 with UVMs traditional commencement, 415 00:19:56.790 --> 00:19:58.560 I'm gonna provide some information 416 00:19:58.560 --> 00:19:59.460 on how commencement 417 00:19:59.460 --> 00:20:02.685 has looked over the past several years post COVID, 418 00:20:02.685 --> 00:20:05.400 and for several years before the pandemic. 419 00:20:05.400 --> 00:20:07.890 Commencement weekend is an incredibly complex event 420 00:20:07.890 --> 00:20:09.960 that brings over 15,000 people 421 00:20:09.960 --> 00:20:12.960 to celebrate each spring and each year the schedule 422 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:15.900 and locations of events alter depending on the number 423 00:20:15.900 --> 00:20:19.020 of graduates in each college school and other circumstances. 424 00:20:19.020 --> 00:20:20.460 So the venues times number 425 00:20:20.460 --> 00:20:22.920 of tickets receptions can change every year 426 00:20:22.920 --> 00:20:25.920 to accommodate changes in our graduate numbers 427 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:27.603 and their needs. 428 00:20:28.590 --> 00:20:29.610 Excellent. 429 00:20:29.610 --> 00:20:32.790 So in general, there are 11 ceremonies over two days, 430 00:20:32.790 --> 00:20:36.360 two ceremonies on Saturday and nine ceremonies on Sunday. 431 00:20:36.360 --> 00:20:39.030 The university Commencement Ceremony, which is also known 432 00:20:39.030 --> 00:20:40.440 as the Main Ceremony, 433 00:20:40.440 --> 00:20:43.050 is the university wide event where all students, 434 00:20:43.050 --> 00:20:45.060 including undergraduate, graduate, 435 00:20:45.060 --> 00:20:47.100 and medical degree candidates are invited 436 00:20:47.100 --> 00:20:49.680 to attend historically students process 437 00:20:49.680 --> 00:20:51.900 and sit with their college school 438 00:20:51.900 --> 00:20:53.970 at the university Commencement Ceremony. 439 00:20:53.970 --> 00:20:55.710 Since 2004, 440 00:20:55.710 --> 00:20:58.260 this ceremony has taken place on the University Green 441 00:20:58.260 --> 00:20:59.760 with numerous exceptions, 442 00:20:59.760 --> 00:21:03.570 including the years of 2020 and 2021 during the pandemic. 443 00:21:03.570 --> 00:21:04.770 Before 2004, 444 00:21:04.770 --> 00:21:07.770 the Commencement Ceremony took place at Centennial Field 445 00:21:07.770 --> 00:21:09.390 and various other locations 446 00:21:09.390 --> 00:21:12.510 before that depending on class size and other logistics. 447 00:21:12.510 --> 00:21:15.060 So changing venues and locations has occurred a number 448 00:21:15.060 --> 00:21:17.370 of times over the last 30 years. 449 00:21:17.370 --> 00:21:19.020 The main ceremony typically includes 450 00:21:19.020 --> 00:21:21.420 the following components, remarks by the president, 451 00:21:21.420 --> 00:21:24.330 a commencement speaker, governance leader, remarks, 452 00:21:24.330 --> 00:21:27.510 Student Faculty Awards, Honorary Degree presentations, 453 00:21:27.510 --> 00:21:30.120 and Degree Conferral by the President. 454 00:21:30.120 --> 00:21:32.520 No diplomas are given out at this ceremony 455 00:21:32.520 --> 00:21:34.020 so no students cross the stage 456 00:21:34.020 --> 00:21:35.700 or have their names called, with the exception 457 00:21:35.700 --> 00:21:39.120 of student award recipients, the ceremony is not ticketed. 458 00:21:39.120 --> 00:21:41.370 It takes place outside on the University Green, 459 00:21:41.370 --> 00:21:42.480 rain or shine. 460 00:21:42.480 --> 00:21:45.030 And as of recent years in the event of severe weather, 461 00:21:45.030 --> 00:21:46.380 the ceremony is canceled 462 00:21:46.380 --> 00:21:47.700 and a modified live stream 463 00:21:47.700 --> 00:21:49.890 with only a small audience takes place instead 464 00:21:49.890 --> 00:21:51.750 of a ceremony on the Green, 465 00:21:51.750 --> 00:21:54.750 there's no space large enough on campus or off 466 00:21:54.750 --> 00:21:56.580 or on campus in Chin County 467 00:21:56.580 --> 00:21:58.860 to hold the ceremony in the event of severe weather 468 00:21:58.860 --> 00:22:00.900 and tinting is not an option. 469 00:22:00.900 --> 00:22:03.120 The Green typically sets 8,000 chairs. 470 00:22:03.120 --> 00:22:05.310 And attendance at the University of Commencement Ceremony 471 00:22:05.310 --> 00:22:07.220 has varied over the last several years. 472 00:22:07.220 --> 00:22:11.100 In 2024, we estimated there were 12,000 attendees, 473 00:22:11.100 --> 00:22:12.960 which is most definitely our record. 474 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:15.510 We think this is most likely due to the graduating class, 475 00:22:15.510 --> 00:22:18.420 not having any type of high school graduation as seniors 476 00:22:18.420 --> 00:22:19.650 during the COVID pandemic. 477 00:22:19.650 --> 00:22:21.680 And they were very eager to celebrate. 478 00:22:21.680 --> 00:22:23.910 In 2023, we estimated closer 479 00:22:23.910 --> 00:22:27.720 to 5,000 attendees in 2022 4,000, 480 00:22:27.720 --> 00:22:29.905 same with 2019. 481 00:22:29.905 --> 00:22:33.903 And in 2018 it rained heavily, so attendance was quite low. 482 00:22:35.580 --> 00:22:38.370 This one, the Nine Individual College School ceremonies 483 00:22:38.370 --> 00:22:40.710 include our graduates receiving diplomas 484 00:22:40.710 --> 00:22:43.230 as they cross the stage, as their name is called. 485 00:22:43.230 --> 00:22:45.690 This is where official photographs of graduates are taken 486 00:22:45.690 --> 00:22:47.100 as they cross the stage. 487 00:22:47.100 --> 00:22:50.160 And these are ceremonies or college school specific. 488 00:22:50.160 --> 00:22:52.380 Some college schools have commencement speakers, 489 00:22:52.380 --> 00:22:53.250 others do not. 490 00:22:53.250 --> 00:22:56.700 Some have specific student awards, others don't. 491 00:22:56.700 --> 00:22:59.100 Deans typically give remarks at these ceremonies 492 00:22:59.100 --> 00:23:01.590 and they take place off and on campus. 493 00:23:01.590 --> 00:23:03.900 So that includes the University Green, 494 00:23:03.900 --> 00:23:06.750 Patrick Gym, Gutterson, Ira Allen Chapel, 495 00:23:06.750 --> 00:23:09.150 and the Flynn Ceremonies have also taken place 496 00:23:09.150 --> 00:23:13.500 at the DoubleTree, but we outgrew that space since 2023. 497 00:23:13.500 --> 00:23:16.050 All of the spaces we use have varying capacities. 498 00:23:16.050 --> 00:23:18.510 Ceremonies move around each year between these spaces 499 00:23:18.510 --> 00:23:19.980 as we know more about numbers 500 00:23:19.980 --> 00:23:22.920 and the different populations in each college school. 501 00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:25.620 I actually don't get a list of graduates until early March. 502 00:23:25.620 --> 00:23:28.870 So a lot of this can sometimes be estimating 503 00:23:29.970 --> 00:23:32.580 the Patrick Leahy Honors College Scholars Recognition 504 00:23:32.580 --> 00:23:35.580 also takes place typically on Saturday afternoon 505 00:23:35.580 --> 00:23:38.520 and honors college students who participate are part 506 00:23:38.520 --> 00:23:39.970 of all undergraduate college. 507 00:23:41.400 --> 00:23:43.050 So that was a really brief explanation 508 00:23:43.050 --> 00:23:44.820 of what our commencement currently looks like, 509 00:23:44.820 --> 00:23:46.200 but you get the idea. 510 00:23:46.200 --> 00:23:48.750 It's a multifaceted and complex event. 511 00:23:48.750 --> 00:23:50.760 I'm not gonna review some of the considerations, 512 00:23:50.760 --> 00:23:51.593 and constraints. 513 00:23:51.593 --> 00:23:54.150 The team that plans this event with me have kept in mind 514 00:23:54.150 --> 00:23:57.480 as it's become clear to us that change is necessary. 515 00:23:57.480 --> 00:23:59.610 Change that we are seeing at a national level 516 00:23:59.610 --> 00:24:02.130 as universities try to improve the commencement experience 517 00:24:02.130 --> 00:24:04.110 for students and their families. 518 00:24:04.110 --> 00:24:04.953 Last one. 519 00:24:06.090 --> 00:24:08.160 So over the last several years we've been concerned 520 00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:09.657 about how different some of our graduates 521 00:24:09.657 --> 00:24:11.910 and their families experiences have been. 522 00:24:11.910 --> 00:24:13.110 As outlined just now, 523 00:24:13.110 --> 00:24:16.260 some college school ceremonies are on campus, some are not, 524 00:24:16.260 --> 00:24:18.420 some are outside, some are inside. 525 00:24:18.420 --> 00:24:20.970 A few are air conditioned and most are not. 526 00:24:20.970 --> 00:24:22.407 Some are ticketed and some are not. 527 00:24:22.407 --> 00:24:26.010 And some graduates get four tickets and others get six. 528 00:24:26.010 --> 00:24:27.930 We're also very behind in national trends 529 00:24:27.930 --> 00:24:29.430 regarding adopting technology 530 00:24:29.430 --> 00:24:31.860 to make our commencement experience efficient, professional, 531 00:24:31.860 --> 00:24:33.780 and personal for our graduates. 532 00:24:33.780 --> 00:24:35.940 We use this technology in 2021 533 00:24:35.940 --> 00:24:37.770 during the commencement ceremony we hosted 534 00:24:37.770 --> 00:24:40.290 during the pandemic and was extremely well received 535 00:24:40.290 --> 00:24:41.400 and successful. 536 00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:43.470 However, our current commencement model makes using 537 00:24:43.470 --> 00:24:46.500 this technology difficult to implement logistically. 538 00:24:46.500 --> 00:24:48.060 Very importantly, we are committed 539 00:24:48.060 --> 00:24:50.280 to making our ceremonies accessible. 540 00:24:50.280 --> 00:24:52.770 Many locations make this difficult to accomplish 541 00:24:52.770 --> 00:24:54.870 or accomplish in an ideal way. 542 00:24:54.870 --> 00:24:56.493 A good example is Waterman. 543 00:24:57.510 --> 00:24:58.650 Currently for the College of Arts 544 00:24:58.650 --> 00:24:59.880 and Sciences ceremony. 545 00:24:59.880 --> 00:25:02.310 If a student is in a wheelchair, then must make their way 546 00:25:02.310 --> 00:25:03.990 to the handicap accessible interns 547 00:25:03.990 --> 00:25:06.210 of the Waterman Building on College Street. 548 00:25:06.210 --> 00:25:07.043 Enter the building, 549 00:25:07.043 --> 00:25:09.510 then take the elevator up to the third floor to wait 550 00:25:09.510 --> 00:25:12.120 and enter the back of the stage for their moment 551 00:25:12.120 --> 00:25:14.070 and then exit back the way they came back 552 00:25:14.070 --> 00:25:16.770 to the University Green student seating. 553 00:25:16.770 --> 00:25:18.420 All of our current commencement venues 554 00:25:18.420 --> 00:25:19.650 have accessibility issues, 555 00:25:19.650 --> 00:25:22.230 looking at access to water, accessible seating, 556 00:25:22.230 --> 00:25:25.710 parking, stage access, bathroom access and heat. 557 00:25:25.710 --> 00:25:28.680 I'll take a moment now to illustrate a few other challenges 558 00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:30.690 with some additional examples. 559 00:25:30.690 --> 00:25:32.850 The University Green has uneven surfaces 560 00:25:32.850 --> 00:25:33.990 and is mostly grass. 561 00:25:33.990 --> 00:25:35.010 This makes it very difficult 562 00:25:35.010 --> 00:25:36.780 to navigate if you were in a wheelchair 563 00:25:36.780 --> 00:25:39.120 or have mobility limitations. 564 00:25:39.120 --> 00:25:40.980 Additionally, although very beautiful, 565 00:25:40.980 --> 00:25:43.590 the Green's physical space in buildings on university row 566 00:25:43.590 --> 00:25:46.530 cause audio challenges for those who are hard of hearing. 567 00:25:46.530 --> 00:25:47.580 Access to the building 568 00:25:47.580 --> 00:25:50.880 and especially handicap accessible bathrooms is challenging. 569 00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:52.650 The only handicap accessible entrance 570 00:25:52.650 --> 00:25:55.200 to the building is on the College Street side. 571 00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:58.020 So attendees who need a handicap accessible bathroom 572 00:25:58.020 --> 00:25:59.670 must travel quite a bit of a distance 573 00:25:59.670 --> 00:26:02.220 to the indoor handicap accessible bathroom. 574 00:26:02.220 --> 00:26:04.980 While we do have two restroom trailers on the Green, 575 00:26:04.980 --> 00:26:08.760 only one trailer has one handicap accessible stall. 576 00:26:08.760 --> 00:26:10.590 We've looked into adding additional trailers, 577 00:26:10.590 --> 00:26:12.990 but our water sources are very limited on the Green 578 00:26:12.990 --> 00:26:15.540 even though a river runs under it. 579 00:26:15.540 --> 00:26:16.920 And we don't have a water source 580 00:26:16.920 --> 00:26:18.480 for a third trailer. 581 00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:20.520 Gutterson and Patrick Gym poses great issues 582 00:26:20.520 --> 00:26:21.660 with accessible seating. 583 00:26:21.660 --> 00:26:24.300 The majority of seating built in both locations for guests 584 00:26:24.300 --> 00:26:27.600 to include bleacher seating with very limited floor seating 585 00:26:27.600 --> 00:26:29.940 and Gutterson egress is not ideal for anyone 586 00:26:29.940 --> 00:26:31.170 with mobility issues 587 00:26:31.170 --> 00:26:33.810 and ramps must be built for wheelchair users to enter 588 00:26:33.810 --> 00:26:35.370 and exit floor seating. 589 00:26:35.370 --> 00:26:36.900 And Patrick Gym, the only area 590 00:26:36.900 --> 00:26:39.990 for accessible seating is the back row of the room. 591 00:26:39.990 --> 00:26:42.270 For all of our on campus venues, we have to truck 592 00:26:42.270 --> 00:26:43.860 and water to meet the needs of the number 593 00:26:43.860 --> 00:26:46.260 of guests we host on campus for both indoor 594 00:26:46.260 --> 00:26:47.730 and outdoor spaces. 595 00:26:47.730 --> 00:26:50.430 Our infrastructure is unable to support large events 596 00:26:50.430 --> 00:26:51.633 and water consumption. 597 00:26:53.730 --> 00:26:55.800 The weather in May is unpredictable. 598 00:26:55.800 --> 00:26:59.160 We've had snow downpours and most recently high heat. 599 00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:00.810 We've also been lucky for several years 600 00:27:00.810 --> 00:27:03.000 that we didn't have any torrential rain or thunderstorms 601 00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:04.680 or lightning for outdoor ceremonies. 602 00:27:04.680 --> 00:27:07.620 But it is a real possibility and has happened 603 00:27:07.620 --> 00:27:10.410 and will be a reality again at some point in the future. 604 00:27:10.410 --> 00:27:11.940 Vermont's weather has become more 605 00:27:11.940 --> 00:27:15.180 and more unpredictable recently, as we all know. 606 00:27:15.180 --> 00:27:16.680 After numerous consultations 607 00:27:16.680 --> 00:27:18.390 with the National Weather Service 608 00:27:18.390 --> 00:27:20.250 before commencement, we used to be able 609 00:27:20.250 --> 00:27:21.390 to make the weather call 610 00:27:21.390 --> 00:27:24.420 for our outdoor ceremony several days before the event. 611 00:27:24.420 --> 00:27:26.700 Now our team would not be comfortable doing that 612 00:27:26.700 --> 00:27:28.650 and making that call so early. 613 00:27:28.650 --> 00:27:30.360 An important detail I'd like to stress 614 00:27:30.360 --> 00:27:32.640 is that with our current commencement model, 615 00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:34.200 in the event there is severe weather, 616 00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:37.350 the University Commencement Ceremony becomes a live streamed 617 00:27:37.350 --> 00:27:38.730 with only a small audience 618 00:27:38.730 --> 00:27:41.520 of approximately a 100 people, which could be consisting 619 00:27:41.520 --> 00:27:45.629 of our platform party guests and our honorary degree guests. 620 00:27:45.629 --> 00:27:49.290 And it would be an alternative indoor venue. 621 00:27:49.290 --> 00:27:51.090 The College of Arts and Sciences ceremony 622 00:27:51.090 --> 00:27:53.250 would also move indoors to the Davis Center 623 00:27:53.250 --> 00:27:54.840 for an alternative commencement event 624 00:27:54.840 --> 00:27:56.850 that does not mimic a ceremony. 625 00:27:56.850 --> 00:27:58.920 At this time with the on-campus infrastructure 626 00:27:58.920 --> 00:28:00.090 we have to work with 627 00:28:00.090 --> 00:28:01.620 and the schedule for commencement. 628 00:28:01.620 --> 00:28:04.200 The best backup plan we have for College of Arts 629 00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:07.260 and Sciences will be to split the college into two groups 630 00:28:07.260 --> 00:28:08.940 during their ceremony time, 631 00:28:08.940 --> 00:28:11.490 having them arrive at different times to the Davis Center 632 00:28:11.490 --> 00:28:13.380 for a commencement experience. 633 00:28:13.380 --> 00:28:16.140 Upon arrival, the students and their family members data 634 00:28:16.140 --> 00:28:17.820 and align to receive their diploma 635 00:28:17.820 --> 00:28:19.710 and make their way to a decorated stage 636 00:28:19.710 --> 00:28:20.850 where graduates will wait 637 00:28:20.850 --> 00:28:22.890 to cross once their name is called. 638 00:28:22.890 --> 00:28:24.930 Family members of the graduates would cheer them on 639 00:28:24.930 --> 00:28:26.910 and take photos in front of the stage 640 00:28:26.910 --> 00:28:29.250 and a professional photo would also be taken. 641 00:28:29.250 --> 00:28:30.570 This would not be a ceremony 642 00:28:30.570 --> 00:28:32.700 and there would not be a large audience. 643 00:28:32.700 --> 00:28:34.710 Students would not be able to cheer on their peers 644 00:28:34.710 --> 00:28:36.690 in this backup plan. 645 00:28:36.690 --> 00:28:39.210 I recognize this is not an ideal backup plan, 646 00:28:39.210 --> 00:28:41.970 but there are simply no venues large enough on campus 647 00:28:41.970 --> 00:28:44.130 to host College of Arts and Sciences Ceremony 648 00:28:44.130 --> 00:28:47.250 or the University Commencement Ceremony should they need 649 00:28:47.250 --> 00:28:50.310 to move indoors even if we ticketed them. 650 00:28:50.310 --> 00:28:52.770 Additionally, none of our campus ceremony venues 651 00:28:52.770 --> 00:28:54.900 are air conditioned and there are real health 652 00:28:54.900 --> 00:28:57.780 and safety concerns to consider with these locations 653 00:28:57.780 --> 00:29:00.570 due to the consistent heat, with the exception 654 00:29:00.570 --> 00:29:02.850 of the University Commencement Ceremony and College of Arts 655 00:29:02.850 --> 00:29:04.020 and Sciences Ceremony, 656 00:29:04.020 --> 00:29:06.270 all other ceremonies are held up indoors. 657 00:29:06.270 --> 00:29:10.080 And of those nine, only two are in air conditioned spaces. 658 00:29:10.080 --> 00:29:12.300 To give an example, the temperatures for College of Arts 659 00:29:12.300 --> 00:29:16.200 and Sciences in 2024 were a mild 76 degrees. 660 00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:18.420 At the time of the CAS Ceremony. 661 00:29:18.420 --> 00:29:21.690 Yet we still had several heat related calls to UVM Rescue 662 00:29:21.690 --> 00:29:24.380 as we do every year when it's hot at commencement. 663 00:29:24.380 --> 00:29:25.213 In the sun, 664 00:29:25.213 --> 00:29:27.180 it feels about 20 degrees warmer. 665 00:29:27.180 --> 00:29:29.370 Additionally, even when the temperature is reasonable 666 00:29:29.370 --> 00:29:32.280 outside the temperatures in our un-air conditioned spaces 667 00:29:32.280 --> 00:29:33.113 are not. 668 00:29:35.100 --> 00:29:36.120 With a healthy enrollment 669 00:29:36.120 --> 00:29:37.080 and high retention rates, 670 00:29:37.080 --> 00:29:38.880 our commencements will continue to grow, 671 00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:41.670 but many of our spaces are at capacity. 672 00:29:41.670 --> 00:29:44.100 For example, if 20 graduates moved from College 673 00:29:44.100 --> 00:29:46.740 of Agriculture and Life Sciences to Rubenstein, 674 00:29:46.740 --> 00:29:49.440 we would need a minimum of 140 additional seats 675 00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:52.350 at the ceremony venue for graduates and our guests. 676 00:29:52.350 --> 00:29:55.050 To me, it is not an acceptable solution to continue 677 00:29:55.050 --> 00:29:57.810 to reduce the number of tickets for our ticketed ceremonies, 678 00:29:57.810 --> 00:30:00.840 which we have had to do for the last several years. 679 00:30:00.840 --> 00:30:02.610 I'd like to take a quick moment 680 00:30:02.610 --> 00:30:04.560 to talk about national trends. 681 00:30:04.560 --> 00:30:06.900 I attend the North American Association 682 00:30:06.900 --> 00:30:09.660 for Commencement Officers or NACO National Conference 683 00:30:09.660 --> 00:30:11.070 and I get to hear about the challenges 684 00:30:11.070 --> 00:30:13.590 and solutions institutions across the United States 685 00:30:13.590 --> 00:30:15.300 and Canada are implementing 686 00:30:15.300 --> 00:30:17.370 to make their commencements a success. 687 00:30:17.370 --> 00:30:20.640 It is clear that every institution has a challenge. 688 00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:22.860 A few things I learned in 2024 689 00:30:22.860 --> 00:30:25.560 is that institutions are making or considering major 690 00:30:25.560 --> 00:30:26.550 and creative changes 691 00:30:26.550 --> 00:30:28.470 to their commencement ceremonies models. 692 00:30:28.470 --> 00:30:30.930 I was actually really blown away by some of the creativity 693 00:30:30.930 --> 00:30:32.880 and different things people are doing 694 00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:35.910 and many institutions are also moving outdoor ceremonies 695 00:30:35.910 --> 00:30:38.580 to indoor venues wherever they can due to weather, health 696 00:30:38.580 --> 00:30:39.850 and safety concerns. 697 00:30:39.850 --> 00:30:43.140 I had a little bit of an example of a cautionary tale 698 00:30:43.140 --> 00:30:45.540 of one institution's path to change. 699 00:30:45.540 --> 00:30:49.800 In spring of 2023, UC Davis moved their ceremonies 700 00:30:49.800 --> 00:30:52.260 to the Golden One Center in Sacramento, 701 00:30:52.260 --> 00:30:54.750 which is 20 minutes away from their campus 702 00:30:54.750 --> 00:30:56.700 after they canceled their outdoor ceremony 703 00:30:56.700 --> 00:30:59.790 on campus at 9:00 AM the year before due to heat. 704 00:30:59.790 --> 00:31:02.490 It's like all over the news, just Google it. 705 00:31:02.490 --> 00:31:04.590 I'm a strong advocate for being proactive 706 00:31:04.590 --> 00:31:06.360 and instead of waiting for something to happen 707 00:31:06.360 --> 00:31:08.410 to make a change that we get ahead of it. 708 00:31:10.110 --> 00:31:12.120 So what's important to our graduates and families? 709 00:31:12.120 --> 00:31:15.600 From a survey we administered to our spring 2024 graduates 710 00:31:15.600 --> 00:31:18.840 and families who had just experienced commencement as well 711 00:31:18.840 --> 00:31:21.330 as conversations brainstorms, we've heard 712 00:31:21.330 --> 00:31:23.790 that the following components of commencement are important 713 00:31:23.790 --> 00:31:25.710 to our graduates and families. 714 00:31:25.710 --> 00:31:27.540 These include receiving their diplomas, 715 00:31:27.540 --> 00:31:30.240 hearing their names called crossing the stage, celebrating 716 00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:33.960 with friends and families and with our college schools 717 00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:35.310 and obviously for families seeing 718 00:31:35.310 --> 00:31:37.230 their graduates where regalia. 719 00:31:37.230 --> 00:31:38.580 To be clear, this does not mean 720 00:31:38.580 --> 00:31:40.410 that other components are not important 721 00:31:40.410 --> 00:31:42.480 or have value to our graduates and families, 722 00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:44.760 but these top five components are collectively 723 00:31:44.760 --> 00:31:46.710 the most important that we saw. 724 00:31:46.710 --> 00:31:48.840 And this is what we were focused on while crafting 725 00:31:48.840 --> 00:31:51.000 this new proposed model. 726 00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:54.240 This one. Additionally, we've heard that the amenities 727 00:31:54.240 --> 00:31:55.500 and components that are important 728 00:31:55.500 --> 00:31:58.770 to our commencement attendees are length of ceremony, 729 00:31:58.770 --> 00:32:00.630 parking close to the venue, air conditioning 730 00:32:00.630 --> 00:32:02.550 and concessions, or food and beverage. 731 00:32:02.550 --> 00:32:04.290 The only venue we currently use 732 00:32:04.290 --> 00:32:06.903 as air conditioned is the Flynn Downtown. 733 00:32:08.670 --> 00:32:11.580 Also be a good one moment to point out that parking 734 00:32:11.580 --> 00:32:13.950 for commencement is an incredibly well orchestrated 735 00:32:13.950 --> 00:32:16.440 but complex feat that has its challenges 736 00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:19.560 with some parking far away from some ceremony venues. 737 00:32:19.560 --> 00:32:20.850 We used 22 buses 738 00:32:20.850 --> 00:32:23.670 and 31 golf carts to move people around campus 739 00:32:23.670 --> 00:32:24.840 and downtown Burlington 740 00:32:24.840 --> 00:32:27.720 for all the ceremonies throughout commencement weekend. 741 00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:29.850 I've included on this slide what parking looked like 742 00:32:29.850 --> 00:32:30.930 for 2024. 743 00:32:30.930 --> 00:32:33.600 Each color represents a different campus lot. 744 00:32:33.600 --> 00:32:34.890 Our team of transportation 745 00:32:34.890 --> 00:32:37.140 and parking professionals do an outstanding job 746 00:32:37.140 --> 00:32:40.080 of navigating accessible parking for our attendees, 747 00:32:40.080 --> 00:32:42.360 but our accessible parking lots are less than ideal, 748 00:32:42.360 --> 00:32:44.100 specifically for the main ceremony 749 00:32:44.100 --> 00:32:45.810 and College of Arts and Sciences 750 00:32:45.810 --> 00:32:48.933 and our accessibility needs have grown and continue to grow. 751 00:32:49.860 --> 00:32:51.690 So how do we meet our community's needs? 752 00:32:51.690 --> 00:32:53.160 Considering these constraints 753 00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:55.500 and the feedback we've received thus far, 754 00:32:55.500 --> 00:32:57.540 we have put together a proposed solution 755 00:32:57.540 --> 00:33:00.000 after many iterations that while extremely different 756 00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:01.143 from what we do now, 757 00:33:03.300 --> 00:33:06.030 offers our graduates UVM Community and guests, 758 00:33:06.030 --> 00:33:08.160 the opportunities to connect, celebrate, 759 00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:10.200 and gather in a meaningful way. 760 00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:13.320 In addition to hosting events on campus on the Friday 761 00:33:13.320 --> 00:33:14.340 of Commencement Weekend, 762 00:33:14.340 --> 00:33:17.370 we're proposing that we move college school ceremonies 763 00:33:17.370 --> 00:33:18.927 to the Champlain Valley Expo Center 764 00:33:18.927 --> 00:33:22.830 for UVM's re-imagined commencement for 2025 765 00:33:22.830 --> 00:33:26.580 and no longer have a main ceremony on the University Green. 766 00:33:26.580 --> 00:33:29.130 Many of our constraints will be addressed with this move 767 00:33:29.130 --> 00:33:30.660 as the expos infrastructure 768 00:33:30.660 --> 00:33:32.280 already includes air conditioning, 769 00:33:32.280 --> 00:33:35.700 one level accessible parking venues 770 00:33:35.700 --> 00:33:36.990 and ample parking, 771 00:33:36.990 --> 00:33:39.720 as well as addressing comfort and capacity. 772 00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:43.500 The new proposed model also ensures that each graduate, 773 00:33:43.500 --> 00:33:44.970 every single one of them, 774 00:33:44.970 --> 00:33:47.040 is guaranteed to receive the experience 775 00:33:47.040 --> 00:33:48.600 of a full commencement ceremony. 776 00:33:48.600 --> 00:33:50.043 Regardless of whether. 777 00:33:54.180 --> 00:33:57.150 Here's our proposed proposal for the weekend. 778 00:33:57.150 --> 00:33:59.100 On Friday the 16th of May, 779 00:33:59.100 --> 00:34:02.280 all events will take place on campus including 780 00:34:02.280 --> 00:34:05.580 a campus open house, which will be college school oriented 781 00:34:05.580 --> 00:34:08.229 and organized by the college schools to showcase campus 782 00:34:08.229 --> 00:34:10.320 or classrooms learning spaces 783 00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:12.720 and will provide an opportunity for faculty, staff, 784 00:34:12.720 --> 00:34:15.420 and administrators to celebrate with students 785 00:34:15.420 --> 00:34:17.130 and families on campus. 786 00:34:17.130 --> 00:34:18.540 Right now, there are many events 787 00:34:18.540 --> 00:34:20.400 that are taking place all across campus 788 00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:22.200 and the intent would be to have those moved 789 00:34:22.200 --> 00:34:24.120 to this Friday afternoon time. 790 00:34:24.120 --> 00:34:26.250 The plan is to use existing campus buildings 791 00:34:26.250 --> 00:34:28.410 and infrastructure to host this event. 792 00:34:28.410 --> 00:34:30.810 The timing would be in the afternoon, could be 2:30 793 00:34:30.810 --> 00:34:33.120 to 4:30, but that's not set yet. 794 00:34:33.120 --> 00:34:34.680 We'd work closely with each college 795 00:34:34.680 --> 00:34:37.260 and school to determine exactly what this would look like. 796 00:34:37.260 --> 00:34:40.530 And some ideas include poster presentations, lab classroom, 797 00:34:40.530 --> 00:34:43.230 studio tours, self-guided tours, meet 798 00:34:43.230 --> 00:34:45.930 and greets of faculty, staff, and administrators. 799 00:34:45.930 --> 00:34:46.890 It's also become clear 800 00:34:46.890 --> 00:34:49.260 to us as students love photo opportunities. 801 00:34:49.260 --> 00:34:51.690 So there would be photo opportunities across campus. 802 00:34:51.690 --> 00:34:54.930 Ones that we have now and added ones as well. 803 00:34:54.930 --> 00:34:57.210 Following the open house would be a food truck festival 804 00:34:57.210 --> 00:34:59.010 on the Davis Center Green that would be open 805 00:34:59.010 --> 00:35:01.050 to the entire UVM Community. 806 00:35:01.050 --> 00:35:04.110 The timing of this would be approximately 4:30 to 6:30, 807 00:35:04.110 --> 00:35:06.510 and then at 6:30 there would be a procession 808 00:35:06.510 --> 00:35:08.340 for those in attendance from the Davis Center 809 00:35:08.340 --> 00:35:11.190 to the University Green for an event on the Green. 810 00:35:11.190 --> 00:35:13.050 This event is still in development. 811 00:35:13.050 --> 00:35:14.670 We're working with students to determine 812 00:35:14.670 --> 00:35:16.230 what this could look like. 813 00:35:16.230 --> 00:35:18.780 But the goal would be to make this student centric 814 00:35:18.780 --> 00:35:20.700 where graduates can gather with their friends 815 00:35:20.700 --> 00:35:21.960 and celebrate with one another 816 00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:24.210 on the historic University Green. 817 00:35:24.210 --> 00:35:25.440 Additionally, on Friday morning 818 00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:27.000 or early afternoon, we'd schedule 819 00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:29.850 the Patrick Leahy Honors College Scholars ceremony. 820 00:35:29.850 --> 00:35:31.200 On the 17th and 18th, 821 00:35:31.200 --> 00:35:33.270 we'd host the commencement diploma ceremonies 822 00:35:33.270 --> 00:35:35.220 at the Champlain Valley Expo Center 823 00:35:35.220 --> 00:35:36.982 and they'd be organized by college. 824 00:35:36.982 --> 00:35:40.380 The focus would be diploma distribution with each student 825 00:35:40.380 --> 00:35:42.720 crossing the stage, having their name called receiving 826 00:35:42.720 --> 00:35:45.270 their diploma and having their photos taken. 827 00:35:45.270 --> 00:35:48.210 We would use technology to ensure a streamlined experience 828 00:35:48.210 --> 00:35:52.020 for graduates to include a grad card with their name 829 00:35:52.020 --> 00:35:54.780 and a QR code with a pre reported name pronunciation 830 00:35:54.780 --> 00:35:58.590 that we guarantee is pronounced correctly and lower thirds 831 00:35:58.590 --> 00:35:59.760 for the screen. 832 00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:01.140 Deans will give remarks 833 00:36:01.140 --> 00:36:02.940 and rather than a single commencement speaker, 834 00:36:02.940 --> 00:36:03.773 the college schools 835 00:36:03.773 --> 00:36:05.190 could have a speaker at their ceremonies, 836 00:36:05.190 --> 00:36:06.453 much like they do now. 837 00:36:07.410 --> 00:36:09.570 Faculty would be invited to participate. 838 00:36:09.570 --> 00:36:11.700 Outstanding Student Leader Awards, 839 00:36:11.700 --> 00:36:13.620 which are usually awarded the main ceremony, 840 00:36:13.620 --> 00:36:15.480 could be awarded at these ceremonies. 841 00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:16.980 And if there are posthumous degrees, 842 00:36:16.980 --> 00:36:19.230 they would be presented here as well. 843 00:36:19.230 --> 00:36:22.260 The president would confer degrees at each ceremony. 844 00:36:22.260 --> 00:36:24.810 And we are proposing that the honorary degrees be awarded 845 00:36:24.810 --> 00:36:27.210 at the Graduate College Commencement Ceremony. 846 00:36:27.210 --> 00:36:29.160 The commencement diploma ceremonies will be one 847 00:36:29.160 --> 00:36:32.070 and a half hours for every undergraduate college school, 848 00:36:32.070 --> 00:36:34.290 graduate college of you a little bit longer. 849 00:36:34.290 --> 00:36:36.990 And a quick note that Larner College of Medicine 850 00:36:36.990 --> 00:36:39.600 will continue to have their ceremony at Ira Chapel 851 00:36:39.600 --> 00:36:41.376 for a number of reasons. 852 00:36:41.376 --> 00:36:43.260 Every ceremony will be ticketed 853 00:36:43.260 --> 00:36:46.290 and each student will receive tick six tickets each 854 00:36:46.290 --> 00:36:48.420 with the possibility of more. 855 00:36:48.420 --> 00:36:51.330 We've created a mock schedule of how things could look. 856 00:36:51.330 --> 00:36:52.410 This is not final. 857 00:36:52.410 --> 00:36:54.177 It has some tightening up 858 00:36:54.177 --> 00:36:57.330 and some shifting that we need to do, but it's an example. 859 00:36:57.330 --> 00:36:59.430 We've allotted an hour for doors open, 860 00:36:59.430 --> 00:37:00.390 and lineup time, 861 00:37:00.390 --> 00:37:02.610 arrivals and departures would be staggered 862 00:37:02.610 --> 00:37:04.500 for each ceremony and group. 863 00:37:04.500 --> 00:37:06.600 So each college school has a ceremony 864 00:37:06.600 --> 00:37:09.540 and CAS will actually have three ceremonies. 865 00:37:09.540 --> 00:37:11.370 These would be replicated ceremonies 866 00:37:11.370 --> 00:37:13.890 that would be split up by academic program. 867 00:37:13.890 --> 00:37:16.440 So faculty and students would be invited 868 00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:19.503 to participate in a ceremony where their program is. 869 00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:24.120 So there are two event spaces at the expo for ceremonies 870 00:37:24.120 --> 00:37:26.160 and additional space for lineup. 871 00:37:26.160 --> 00:37:30.030 Expo South has a capacity of 3,720 people 872 00:37:30.030 --> 00:37:33.180 and Expo North 2,976. 873 00:37:33.180 --> 00:37:34.170 Blue Ribbon Pavilion 874 00:37:34.170 --> 00:37:36.990 would be designated as a lineup location. 875 00:37:36.990 --> 00:37:38.220 For comparison's sake, 876 00:37:38.220 --> 00:37:40.980 our current commencement venue capacities are as follows. 877 00:37:40.980 --> 00:37:44.970 Patrick Gym holds an absolute maximum of 3,200 people, 878 00:37:44.970 --> 00:37:47.730 but this is tight and people would be sitting 879 00:37:47.730 --> 00:37:49.380 beyond the stage. 880 00:37:49.380 --> 00:37:52.230 Gutterson holds a max of 2,400 people 881 00:37:52.230 --> 00:37:55.893 and the Flynn holds a maximum of 1,411. 882 00:37:57.630 --> 00:37:59.700 The ceremonies would be staggered through Saturday 883 00:37:59.700 --> 00:38:01.950 and Sunday in both Expo North and South. 884 00:38:01.950 --> 00:38:04.470 Here's some photos of what the space looks like. 885 00:38:04.470 --> 00:38:06.450 There's the burgers up there, those aren't permanent. 886 00:38:06.450 --> 00:38:08.160 That's just to show that you can do all sorts 887 00:38:08.160 --> 00:38:11.317 of fun decals just so we can really outfit it in UVM, 888 00:38:12.210 --> 00:38:15.630 this is an exterior view and overhead of Expo North 889 00:38:15.630 --> 00:38:18.690 and South and their shared courtyard. 890 00:38:18.690 --> 00:38:21.180 This slide shows some photos of what the empty space 891 00:38:21.180 --> 00:38:22.890 of Expo North looks like. 892 00:38:22.890 --> 00:38:26.670 It has its own concessions area, bathrooms, water outlets, 893 00:38:26.670 --> 00:38:28.170 as well as entrance. 894 00:38:28.170 --> 00:38:30.093 This is the same for Expo South. 895 00:38:31.140 --> 00:38:34.020 All spaces in the facility are fully air conditioned 896 00:38:34.020 --> 00:38:35.280 and there is also parking 897 00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:38.340 and lots of it right next to the Expo Center. 898 00:38:38.340 --> 00:38:41.100 The facility is accessible one level, no stairs 899 00:38:41.100 --> 00:38:43.770 and will allow for staging with ramps on both sides 900 00:38:43.770 --> 00:38:46.830 of the stage in both Expo North and South. 901 00:38:46.830 --> 00:38:49.680 This will ensure every graduate will be able to enter 902 00:38:49.680 --> 00:38:51.843 and exit the stage the same way. 903 00:38:52.875 --> 00:38:56.130 We have so many options on how we can transform the space. 904 00:38:56.130 --> 00:38:59.730 This is a super simple AutoCAD rendering we put together 905 00:38:59.730 --> 00:39:02.940 to show how it could look with some backdrops and lighting. 906 00:39:02.940 --> 00:39:04.500 We can do a ton more than this, 907 00:39:04.500 --> 00:39:07.020 but this is just to give you an idea and sense of space. 908 00:39:07.020 --> 00:39:09.090 And I do love that our acting provost 909 00:39:09.090 --> 00:39:10.790 is the one who's up on the screen. 910 00:39:12.300 --> 00:39:13.470 Next slide. 911 00:39:13.470 --> 00:39:14.670 So before I take questions, 912 00:39:14.670 --> 00:39:16.290 I wanna note the steps we've taken 913 00:39:16.290 --> 00:39:20.010 to get to this point in sharing this proposal with you. 914 00:39:20.010 --> 00:39:21.180 We met or presented to 915 00:39:21.180 --> 00:39:23.370 or had conversations starting this summer 916 00:39:23.370 --> 00:39:25.050 with university leaders, 917 00:39:25.050 --> 00:39:27.960 college school commencement coordinators, the university 918 00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:30.060 and services professional staff, provost, 919 00:39:30.060 --> 00:39:30.893 leadership team, 920 00:39:30.893 --> 00:39:32.970 deans and their staff in small group meetings, 921 00:39:32.970 --> 00:39:33.990 Registrar's Office, 922 00:39:33.990 --> 00:39:37.230 faculty senate, CAS faculty, SGA, senators 923 00:39:37.230 --> 00:39:38.880 and Leadership, GSS, President 924 00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:41.730 and Vice President, Strategic Communications, Foundation, 925 00:39:41.730 --> 00:39:44.040 vendors today, staff council. 926 00:39:44.040 --> 00:39:45.870 And we continue to have many discussions 927 00:39:45.870 --> 00:39:46.950 with campus partners 928 00:39:46.950 --> 00:39:48.870 and will continue to have conversations 929 00:39:48.870 --> 00:39:50.430 with partners like transportation 930 00:39:50.430 --> 00:39:54.090 and parking, police services, ETS, custodial, Physical Plan, 931 00:39:54.090 --> 00:39:57.690 print mail bookstore, Davis Center, UVM, dining and more. 932 00:39:57.690 --> 00:40:00.510 Since I presented to the Student Government Association, 933 00:40:00.510 --> 00:40:02.757 we've received some very strong feedback from students 934 00:40:02.757 --> 00:40:05.640 and their families and we're taking this feedback seriously 935 00:40:05.640 --> 00:40:08.520 and working on next appropriate steps to fully recognize 936 00:40:08.520 --> 00:40:11.790 and understand the collective feelings of students on campus 937 00:40:11.790 --> 00:40:13.770 regarding what they need and want. 938 00:40:13.770 --> 00:40:16.890 This includes a survey to students with senior standing 939 00:40:16.890 --> 00:40:19.500 and our summer grads who are part of this cohort 940 00:40:19.500 --> 00:40:21.060 that was actually launched this morning 941 00:40:21.060 --> 00:40:22.890 and will be open for a week. 942 00:40:22.890 --> 00:40:24.847 I must stress this process is ongoing 943 00:40:24.847 --> 00:40:27.090 that will continue to evolve. 944 00:40:27.090 --> 00:40:29.370 However, we recognize that families need to plan 945 00:40:29.370 --> 00:40:30.840 or adjust plans already made. 946 00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:34.110 So moving as quickly as possible to finalize our proposal 947 00:40:34.110 --> 00:40:37.180 for final review will happen within the next few weeks. 948 00:40:37.180 --> 00:40:38.340 Yeah, yeah. 949 00:40:38.340 --> 00:40:40.350 In team, in the team that plans 950 00:40:40.350 --> 00:40:41.970 and implements commencement at UVM 951 00:40:41.970 --> 00:40:44.520 didn't come up with this proposal arbitrarily. 952 00:40:44.520 --> 00:40:47.370 We spent several months in discussion exploration 953 00:40:47.370 --> 00:40:49.260 and by brainstorming to come up with a plan 954 00:40:49.260 --> 00:40:50.790 that would allow each graduate 955 00:40:50.790 --> 00:40:53.280 to ensure a commencement that they have earned. 956 00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:55.920 We recognize this is a big change for many of us, 957 00:40:55.920 --> 00:40:57.810 but we believe a necessary one. 958 00:40:57.810 --> 00:41:00.450 And I think if we continue to work together as a community, 959 00:41:00.450 --> 00:41:02.490 we can create an exceptional experience 960 00:41:02.490 --> 00:41:05.430 for our student graduates as their last experiences 961 00:41:05.430 --> 00:41:07.470 as UVM students. 962 00:41:07.470 --> 00:41:10.173 That's it. I'm happy to take anyone's questions. 963 00:41:11.220 --> 00:41:12.270 Yes. 964 00:41:12.270 --> 00:41:17.270 Is it still gonna be broken up graduate degrees on Saturday 965 00:41:17.340 --> 00:41:20.340 and undergrad and Sunday? It seemed like a- 966 00:41:20.340 --> 00:41:23.460 Yeah, so they'll have to be ceremonies on both Saturday 967 00:41:23.460 --> 00:41:24.293 and Sunday. 968 00:41:24.293 --> 00:41:26.910 So to a transfer of undergrad graduate. Yeah. 969 00:41:26.910 --> 00:41:28.950 Well graduate has one ceremony. 970 00:41:28.950 --> 00:41:31.080 So they would continue to be on Saturday 971 00:41:31.080 --> 00:41:34.170 and Larner College of Medicine would be on Sunday. 972 00:41:34.170 --> 00:41:37.500 And so those would typically be commencement ceremonies 973 00:41:37.500 --> 00:41:40.458 where they would have their degrees converted there too. 974 00:41:40.458 --> 00:41:41.790 But some undergrads will have on Saturday, 975 00:41:41.790 --> 00:41:43.240 and some will have on Sunday. 976 00:41:44.115 --> 00:41:47.640 Yes, it's gonna be basically a mix of both days. 977 00:41:47.640 --> 00:41:49.470 And a lot of those 2020 grads 978 00:41:49.470 --> 00:41:52.170 that graduated this past year have their ceremony 979 00:41:52.170 --> 00:41:53.700 at Champlain Expo. 980 00:41:53.700 --> 00:41:57.180 They did a wonderful job but it was outside, inside. 981 00:41:57.180 --> 00:41:58.500 Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were all in cars. 982 00:41:58.500 --> 00:41:59.333 Yes. 983 00:41:59.333 --> 00:42:01.830 Yep. They gotta go across the table. They did. 984 00:42:01.830 --> 00:42:04.020 Yeah. It's different. I think it's good. 985 00:42:04.020 --> 00:42:05.700 Yeah, I mean I think the challenge 986 00:42:05.700 --> 00:42:08.640 with it is that it's really different from what we do now 987 00:42:08.640 --> 00:42:11.580 and you know, there was criticism 988 00:42:11.580 --> 00:42:15.000 that we didn't survey this particular group of students, 989 00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:16.650 which it's a broad list. 990 00:42:16.650 --> 00:42:17.790 Like I don't have a list. 991 00:42:17.790 --> 00:42:19.350 We just basically send it to anyone 992 00:42:19.350 --> 00:42:21.000 who has a specific number of credits. 993 00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:22.850 So they may or may not be graduating. 994 00:42:24.150 --> 00:42:27.870 You know, my driver is that I wanna make sure everybody 995 00:42:27.870 --> 00:42:29.070 has a commencement experience, 996 00:42:29.070 --> 00:42:31.200 and the CAS plan right now in the event 997 00:42:31.200 --> 00:42:33.210 of severe weather is a real nightmare. 998 00:42:33.210 --> 00:42:35.520 Like it's hard when you're like, 999 00:42:35.520 --> 00:42:37.260 I wanna have this thing on the Green 1000 00:42:37.260 --> 00:42:39.840 and you're envisioning perfect weather to think about, 1001 00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:42.510 and the fact that there may be a downpour or it's canceled 1002 00:42:42.510 --> 00:42:44.190 'cause of thunder lightning 1003 00:42:44.190 --> 00:42:45.023 and to be like, 1004 00:42:45.023 --> 00:42:47.430 "What I really don't want is what we're proposing." 1005 00:42:47.430 --> 00:42:50.250 But if we got there that day they'd be very upset. 1006 00:42:50.250 --> 00:42:53.249 Right. So it's a tough thing to explain 1007 00:42:53.249 --> 00:42:55.770 and also it's like it's a gamble, right? 1008 00:42:55.770 --> 00:42:57.450 Like every year it's a gamble 1009 00:42:57.450 --> 00:42:59.470 and people don't always recognize that. 1010 00:42:59.470 --> 00:43:02.100 'Cause we've had incredibly good luck with the weather 1011 00:43:02.100 --> 00:43:03.363 for many years now. 1012 00:43:05.340 --> 00:43:09.840 But I remember having to get was Heather before you? 1013 00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:11.970 Heather come from Water, from Costco. 1014 00:43:11.970 --> 00:43:13.230 Oh yeah. All the Water runs. 1015 00:43:13.230 --> 00:43:15.624 Well we aren't even allowed to do that. 1016 00:43:15.624 --> 00:43:18.540 Like, that was emergency situations because in 20, 1017 00:43:18.540 --> 00:43:21.270 Jen Mainelli or Jen Maine mailed us, 1018 00:43:21.270 --> 00:43:23.910 but when we were at Virtue Field for 2021, 1019 00:43:23.910 --> 00:43:26.430 which is one of the years, we didn't have it on the Green 1020 00:43:26.430 --> 00:43:28.830 'cause that was technically our COVID commencement 1021 00:43:28.830 --> 00:43:30.480 and it looked very different. 1022 00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:31.650 But we were in Virtue Field 1023 00:43:31.650 --> 00:43:36.120 and it was the hottest place in the United States of America 1024 00:43:36.120 --> 00:43:39.450 in May on one of the two days that we did it. 1025 00:43:39.450 --> 00:43:41.910 And it was absolutely miserable. 1026 00:43:41.910 --> 00:43:44.370 And then you're talking about 300 students 1027 00:43:44.370 --> 00:43:47.168 at 10 different ceremonies in Polyester Grounds 1028 00:43:47.168 --> 00:43:50.100 that are made out of recycled plastic. 1029 00:43:50.100 --> 00:43:51.617 You know, it was like someone did a thing, 1030 00:43:51.617 --> 00:43:54.210 it was like on the turf, which is plastic. 1031 00:43:54.210 --> 00:43:56.280 It was like 140 degrees. 1032 00:43:56.280 --> 00:44:00.210 So like, like that's a real, those are real concerns for us. 1033 00:44:00.210 --> 00:44:02.700 And it doesn't feel like it's getting cooler. 1034 00:44:02.700 --> 00:44:03.533 Huh? 1035 00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:06.780 Yes. Would you still have like the golf cart? 1036 00:44:06.780 --> 00:44:09.253 'Cause I mean even though there's a lot of parking, 1037 00:44:09.253 --> 00:44:11.220 like it's large scale. 1038 00:44:11.220 --> 00:44:14.610 Absolutely. Like you know, people drive to campus now, 1039 00:44:14.610 --> 00:44:16.350 so the thought is that they would drive 1040 00:44:16.350 --> 00:44:18.000 directly to the Expo. 1041 00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:20.310 We also recognize some people don't have cars, 1042 00:44:20.310 --> 00:44:21.780 whether they'd be students or guests 1043 00:44:21.780 --> 00:44:23.550 and they're staying Downtown. 1044 00:44:23.550 --> 00:44:26.219 So you know, we'll be talking about devising 1045 00:44:26.219 --> 00:44:29.610 to have some buses providing service from Downtown 1046 00:44:29.610 --> 00:44:33.507 and campus to the Expo and back. Yeah. 1047 00:44:33.507 --> 00:44:36.633 And then you talked about those boards, 1048 00:44:37.560 --> 00:44:39.330 outside of the Expo, 1049 00:44:39.330 --> 00:44:41.640 South and North where you could put art. 1050 00:44:41.640 --> 00:44:44.190 Oh yeah. Yeah. So would the idea be to kind 1051 00:44:44.190 --> 00:44:46.530 of create a UVM like atmosphere? 1052 00:44:46.530 --> 00:44:51.480 Like around UVM Centric inside like coming into it? 1053 00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:53.220 And then inside too. 1054 00:44:53.220 --> 00:44:57.090 I mean it's hard if you've been there for like the fair 1055 00:44:57.090 --> 00:44:59.965 to be like, oh this is a glorious location, 1056 00:44:59.965 --> 00:45:03.660 but like truly it is an event center, right? 1057 00:45:03.660 --> 00:45:06.360 Like that's the whole point is that it is a concrete shell 1058 00:45:06.360 --> 00:45:08.546 that you can do so much with. 1059 00:45:08.546 --> 00:45:12.120 So I think that with this team is super creative, 1060 00:45:12.120 --> 00:45:16.980 we can make it look amazing, very celebratory and fun. 1061 00:45:16.980 --> 00:45:18.977 It'll look better than Patrick Gym 1062 00:45:18.977 --> 00:45:21.720 and Gutterson can tell you that much. 1063 00:45:21.720 --> 00:45:24.663 Is there a big cost differential doing it? 1064 00:45:26.010 --> 00:45:28.260 Not that I have seen yet. 1065 00:45:28.260 --> 00:45:30.990 You know, the Green is extremely expensive 1066 00:45:30.990 --> 00:45:34.140 because you're basically creating an event in a place 1067 00:45:34.140 --> 00:45:36.270 that has absolutely zero infrastructure 1068 00:45:36.270 --> 00:45:37.950 to support a large event, right? 1069 00:45:37.950 --> 00:45:39.300 So we have to bring in the power, 1070 00:45:39.300 --> 00:45:40.650 we have to bring in the water, 1071 00:45:40.650 --> 00:45:43.680 we have to set 8,000 shares out unevenly on ground. 1072 00:45:43.680 --> 00:45:45.750 And the labor to do that, it's challenging 1073 00:45:45.750 --> 00:45:47.865 'cause every rail is a different number. 1074 00:45:47.865 --> 00:45:50.700 You know, you've gotta bring a stage in and set it up 1075 00:45:50.700 --> 00:45:54.540 and close off entrances and exits and bring the power out. 1076 00:45:54.540 --> 00:45:56.550 I mean, even internet, we have to put boosters 1077 00:45:56.550 --> 00:45:58.410 out because we're live streaming this event. 1078 00:45:58.410 --> 00:46:00.720 So there's an incredible cost to that. 1079 00:46:00.720 --> 00:46:03.840 I think that this first year at the expo will be, 1080 00:46:03.840 --> 00:46:05.940 there'll be expenses involved 1081 00:46:05.940 --> 00:46:08.730 in it to get it to where it needs to be. 1082 00:46:08.730 --> 00:46:12.030 And some of those things can be reused after that year. 1083 00:46:12.030 --> 00:46:13.560 So I think that this year 1084 00:46:13.560 --> 00:46:16.260 it will not really be a cost savings, 1085 00:46:16.260 --> 00:46:17.800 but I don't think that like 1086 00:46:18.780 --> 00:46:21.060 it will be like, it's not the driver. 1087 00:46:21.060 --> 00:46:24.420 But I do think in the long run when we're not creating 1088 00:46:24.420 --> 00:46:26.130 an event out there is no infrastructure, 1089 00:46:26.130 --> 00:46:28.020 we will see some savings. 1090 00:46:28.020 --> 00:46:32.280 Colleges will also, he spends a lot of money on food 1091 00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:33.600 for our receptions. 1092 00:46:33.600 --> 00:46:36.500 So I mean I don't know if you're taking money from us yet, 1093 00:46:38.755 --> 00:46:40.230 but it could be for colleges- 1094 00:46:40.230 --> 00:46:41.063 Start offering. 1095 00:46:41.063 --> 00:46:42.480 Yeah. Yeah. Your right. 1096 00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:44.790 I didn't mean to put any ideas in your head 1097 00:46:44.790 --> 00:46:47.490 but, well I mean even the receptions are problematic 1098 00:46:47.490 --> 00:46:50.580 because as Jen can attest to the fact 1099 00:46:50.580 --> 00:46:53.610 that the Harris Mill isn't big enough 1100 00:46:53.610 --> 00:46:56.400 and so there is a line wrapped around the building 1101 00:46:56.400 --> 00:46:58.440 and food ran out in 30 minutes. 1102 00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:02.010 So it's like are we really serving everyone the best 1103 00:47:02.010 --> 00:47:03.600 way in this way? 1104 00:47:03.600 --> 00:47:06.450 So the biggest issue is that like our spaces 1105 00:47:06.450 --> 00:47:07.740 aren't working for us anymore. 1106 00:47:07.740 --> 00:47:08.850 Like our current model 1107 00:47:08.850 --> 00:47:12.120 with how we're doing things is not working 1108 00:47:12.120 --> 00:47:16.320 and we can't, we physically can't do it the same this year. 1109 00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:18.450 So we have to make some decisions. 1110 00:47:18.450 --> 00:47:19.950 I think it'll be interesting to see 1111 00:47:19.950 --> 00:47:21.660 what we get back from the student survey 1112 00:47:21.660 --> 00:47:23.730 about what's truly important to them. 1113 00:47:23.730 --> 00:47:26.610 This has evolved numerous times since we started talking 1114 00:47:26.610 --> 00:47:28.620 about it several months ago. 1115 00:47:28.620 --> 00:47:31.470 And I'm sure it will continue to evolve. 1116 00:47:31.470 --> 00:47:35.070 Like I think it has to, my biggest concern now is timing. 1117 00:47:35.070 --> 00:47:36.840 We have families who are already very upset 1118 00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:38.550 that there might be a change for May 1119 00:47:38.550 --> 00:47:40.260 because they've already booked hotels 1120 00:47:40.260 --> 00:47:42.000 or done travel plans. 1121 00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:45.060 So we wanna make sure we're giving people ample time 1122 00:47:45.060 --> 00:47:46.620 to either make their travel 1123 00:47:46.620 --> 00:47:49.470 or change it with this new model. 1124 00:47:49.470 --> 00:47:50.303 It's the same weekend, 1125 00:47:50.303 --> 00:47:52.020 it's just that they might have around a certain day. 1126 00:47:52.020 --> 00:47:53.070 Yeah, I mean a lot of people 1127 00:47:53.070 --> 00:47:54.720 are here for the weekend already, 1128 00:47:54.720 --> 00:47:57.660 but there are some people who may drive up that morning, 1129 00:47:57.660 --> 00:47:59.877 you know, so we wanna be sensitive to that. 1130 00:47:59.877 --> 00:48:02.460 And we do offer on campus family housing 1131 00:48:02.460 --> 00:48:04.080 and we'll continue to do that. 1132 00:48:04.080 --> 00:48:06.300 And that's at University North Heights. 1133 00:48:06.300 --> 00:48:10.140 So it's air conditioned and we'll you know, 1134 00:48:10.140 --> 00:48:14.910 likely expand it as as much as we can. Yes. 1135 00:48:14.910 --> 00:48:18.390 Do you have the ability to livestream the event 1136 00:48:18.390 --> 00:48:20.367 behind the stadium? 1137 00:48:20.367 --> 00:48:23.490 And the reason I ask because that is a flat surface. 1138 00:48:23.490 --> 00:48:26.310 So when you have the whole crowd sitting, 1139 00:48:26.310 --> 00:48:27.600 like you're not gonna see. 1140 00:48:27.600 --> 00:48:30.210 Yeah, everything, every ceremony, 1141 00:48:30.210 --> 00:48:32.760 even now everything we do is live streamed. 1142 00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:35.100 So all 11 ceremonies are live streamed 1143 00:48:35.100 --> 00:48:36.450 and then in the expo 1144 00:48:36.450 --> 00:48:38.880 what will happen is there will be video screens 1145 00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:41.820 that hang down from the ceiling like halfway 1146 00:48:41.820 --> 00:48:43.500 back for people to see. 1147 00:48:43.500 --> 00:48:46.710 So like we have so much we can do if we wanna outfit 1148 00:48:46.710 --> 00:48:48.870 it in video screens and video walls. 1149 00:48:48.870 --> 00:48:50.963 Certainly accessibility. Yeah. 1150 00:48:51.913 --> 00:48:55.505 Corrine, do you have a question? 1151 00:48:55.505 --> 00:48:59.580 Yes. I'm curious what the concerns 1152 00:48:59.580 --> 00:49:01.500 are that you mentioned. 1153 00:49:01.500 --> 00:49:05.010 If it's just, if it's the change in location in general 1154 00:49:05.010 --> 00:49:07.290 or if there's something more specific. 1155 00:49:07.290 --> 00:49:11.610 I'm also wondering if the change in location would mean 1156 00:49:11.610 --> 00:49:15.600 that fewer volunteers are needed or the same amount 1157 00:49:15.600 --> 00:49:18.060 and if it's UVM security 1158 00:49:18.060 --> 00:49:21.240 that would also be needed at the other location in addition 1159 00:49:21.240 --> 00:49:22.620 to on campus. 1160 00:49:22.620 --> 00:49:23.453 Yeah, 1161 00:49:23.453 --> 00:49:27.950 so we will definitely need staff volunteers, 1162 00:49:28.830 --> 00:49:30.990 but it's really like we don't have volunteers anymore. 1163 00:49:30.990 --> 00:49:32.700 We pay everyone that works commencement 1164 00:49:32.700 --> 00:49:34.230 unless it's a part of their job. 1165 00:49:34.230 --> 00:49:35.340 So there will most definitely 1166 00:49:35.340 --> 00:49:37.203 still be a call going out for that. 1167 00:49:37.203 --> 00:49:39.420 It's an over two day period of time. 1168 00:49:39.420 --> 00:49:42.180 So I can't tell you if it's the exact same number 1169 00:49:42.180 --> 00:49:44.100 of people we'll need, but we are definitely gonna need 1170 00:49:44.100 --> 00:49:46.956 a workforce so that won't go away. 1171 00:49:46.956 --> 00:49:51.660 We always work with ADA for security. 1172 00:49:51.660 --> 00:49:54.720 I'm not sure who's contracted over at the expo. 1173 00:49:54.720 --> 00:49:57.090 There would still be a security company involved like 1174 00:49:57.090 --> 00:49:58.467 we have every year and UVM 1175 00:49:58.467 --> 00:50:00.720 and police services would still be involved 1176 00:50:00.720 --> 00:50:02.373 as it is a university event. 1177 00:50:04.170 --> 00:50:05.310 I don't think I answered 1178 00:50:05.310 --> 00:50:07.503 all of them though about the concerns. 1179 00:50:08.520 --> 00:50:12.100 I think that the concerns are definitely like 1180 00:50:13.111 --> 00:50:14.970 the schedule, right? 1181 00:50:14.970 --> 00:50:16.860 'Cause people look back at previous years 1182 00:50:16.860 --> 00:50:18.330 and they're like, "Well Sims was then." 1183 00:50:18.330 --> 00:50:20.640 So that's when they'll be now even though we don't publish 1184 00:50:20.640 --> 00:50:21.870 the schedule on purpose 1185 00:50:21.870 --> 00:50:24.630 'cause we don't actually know when they're going, 1186 00:50:24.630 --> 00:50:27.330 but people make assumptions so people have made plans. 1187 00:50:27.330 --> 00:50:29.280 I think that's one of the biggest concerns people 1188 00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:31.350 have that we're hearing from. 1189 00:50:31.350 --> 00:50:34.320 Our students feel a connection to the University Green 1190 00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:36.540 and they've expressed their discontent 1191 00:50:36.540 --> 00:50:39.648 with potentially not having a main ceremony there. 1192 00:50:39.648 --> 00:50:44.640 And but that is also what we're trying to create on Friday. 1193 00:50:44.640 --> 00:50:45.540 It's like what we're hearing 1194 00:50:45.540 --> 00:50:47.100 is that students wanna celebrate 1195 00:50:47.100 --> 00:50:49.800 with their friends across college school, 1196 00:50:49.800 --> 00:50:51.420 which we don't actually currently do. 1197 00:50:51.420 --> 00:50:54.030 Right now it's very college, school specific 1198 00:50:54.030 --> 00:50:56.670 and they want to be on the Green. 1199 00:50:56.670 --> 00:50:58.650 So we're trying to create an opportunity 1200 00:50:58.650 --> 00:51:01.978 that would be meaningful for them to have that there 1201 00:51:01.978 --> 00:51:04.473 and they will all be here on Friday. So. 1202 00:51:06.811 --> 00:51:08.520 And yes Jen. 1203 00:51:08.520 --> 00:51:10.260 Have you thought about options 1204 00:51:10.260 --> 00:51:14.160 for family activities for Saturday in the event 1205 00:51:14.160 --> 00:51:16.740 that your ceremony is on Sunday? 1206 00:51:16.740 --> 00:51:20.550 Yes. No, I mean as in I think a lot 1207 00:51:20.550 --> 00:51:22.530 of families make their own plans. 1208 00:51:22.530 --> 00:51:25.170 Like they have their parties at their house, 1209 00:51:25.170 --> 00:51:26.550 they go out to dinner, 1210 00:51:26.550 --> 00:51:29.220 they have their own celebratory events specifically 1211 00:51:29.220 --> 00:51:30.570 with their friends 1212 00:51:30.570 --> 00:51:33.639 who they're not necessarily in the same college with. 1213 00:51:33.639 --> 00:51:35.894 So yes, 1214 00:51:35.894 --> 00:51:39.120 there's a gap there from Friday to Sunday. 1215 00:51:39.120 --> 00:51:42.060 Oh. But a lot of people are here already. 1216 00:51:42.060 --> 00:51:43.980 Yeah. Doing their thing. 1217 00:51:43.980 --> 00:51:46.110 I mean every like restaurant in Burlington 1218 00:51:46.110 --> 00:51:48.120 is booked solid for the weekend. 1219 00:51:48.120 --> 00:51:50.670 So they're celebrating, they're doing their things. 1220 00:51:52.140 --> 00:51:54.390 We haven't really received any feedback 1221 00:51:54.390 --> 00:51:56.580 about that piece so far. 1222 00:51:56.580 --> 00:52:00.013 I know you're putting me on Sunday, that's why I'm say 1223 00:52:00.013 --> 00:52:02.043 you I know nothing, you never know. 1224 00:52:03.060 --> 00:52:08.060 So no central celebration, just college specific. 1225 00:52:08.220 --> 00:52:10.380 Yes. Like they essentially 1226 00:52:10.380 --> 00:52:12.490 all become commencement ceremonies 1227 00:52:13.680 --> 00:52:17.550 and the interim president would be all of them 1228 00:52:17.550 --> 00:52:19.320 or a president. 1229 00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:20.733 Wow. The plan. 1230 00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:30.660 You mentioned honorary degrees. 1231 00:52:30.660 --> 00:52:31.984 Yes. 1232 00:52:31.984 --> 00:52:33.000 How are you gonna split those up? 1233 00:52:33.000 --> 00:52:35.610 I'm not, they're gonna be at the graduate college. 1234 00:52:35.610 --> 00:52:37.982 Oh, you must have said that. Okay. 1235 00:52:37.982 --> 00:52:40.200 Yeah, so that'll be a bit of an elevated ceremony. 1236 00:52:40.200 --> 00:52:42.420 They're looked at as advanced degrees. 1237 00:52:42.420 --> 00:52:46.237 So they take place at the graduate college. 1238 00:52:46.237 --> 00:52:47.087 That's amazing. 1239 00:52:49.290 --> 00:52:51.720 And I did note like no commencement speaker 1240 00:52:51.720 --> 00:52:54.300 for like there's no university wide, 1241 00:52:54.300 --> 00:52:56.490 but all the college schools typically 1242 00:52:56.490 --> 00:52:57.630 have commencement speakers. 1243 00:52:57.630 --> 00:53:01.110 CAS does not, but most of the others do have a speaker 1244 00:53:01.110 --> 00:53:02.190 that they bring in already 1245 00:53:02.190 --> 00:53:03.420 and that's actually very important 1246 00:53:03.420 --> 00:53:05.373 to their college school identities. 1247 00:53:13.530 --> 00:53:16.800 Just for my own understanding, 1248 00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:19.500 you mentioned a couple times that there's concessions. 1249 00:53:19.500 --> 00:53:22.140 I should just, it alarms me a little bit 1250 00:53:22.140 --> 00:53:25.434 but are, would you offer concessions? 1251 00:53:25.434 --> 00:53:26.428 Yeah. You would? 1252 00:53:26.428 --> 00:53:27.261 Yes. 1253 00:53:27.261 --> 00:53:30.630 So like Sodexo would be there offering more options 1254 00:53:30.630 --> 00:53:33.900 than they do now because they have two full kitchens. 1255 00:53:33.900 --> 00:53:36.060 Can you eat inside the- 1256 00:53:36.060 --> 00:53:38.022 Yeah. So that's cleanup. 1257 00:53:38.022 --> 00:53:38.883 Okay. 1258 00:53:41.430 --> 00:53:44.640 But there's also outdoor space two, 1259 00:53:44.640 --> 00:53:46.975 we're talking about putting a tent up outside. 1260 00:53:46.975 --> 00:53:48.226 Okay. 1261 00:53:48.226 --> 00:53:51.030 To mainly partially to block 1262 00:53:51.030 --> 00:53:53.790 some of the ugly because I know it's like it's not, 1263 00:53:53.790 --> 00:53:54.840 it isn't beautiful there, 1264 00:53:54.840 --> 00:53:57.630 but we're not there for the like for the affair. 1265 00:53:57.630 --> 00:53:59.343 We're in a specific area. 1266 00:54:01.500 --> 00:54:02.333 Yeah. 1267 00:54:02.333 --> 00:54:03.270 But deep fried area. 1268 00:54:04.841 --> 00:54:06.406 What your real question 1269 00:54:06.406 --> 00:54:07.406 Is or candy. 1270 00:54:09.780 --> 00:54:11.193 Open up the Maple part. 1271 00:54:13.740 --> 00:54:15.600 That's right next door. 1272 00:54:15.600 --> 00:54:18.300 That would be cute. Yeah, it's very good mind. Yeah. 1273 00:54:22.350 --> 00:54:24.570 What are some of the trends 1274 00:54:24.570 --> 00:54:26.490 that you got at the conference? 1275 00:54:26.490 --> 00:54:29.520 People are doing like crazy new things. 1276 00:54:29.520 --> 00:54:31.413 So for an example, 1277 00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:34.560 one school has done it really well 1278 00:54:34.560 --> 00:54:35.760 and they're now in their third year 1279 00:54:35.760 --> 00:54:40.050 of doing it as University of Albany did away 1280 00:54:40.050 --> 00:54:43.380 with their individual college school ceremonies completely. 1281 00:54:43.380 --> 00:54:44.790 And on Thursday 1282 00:54:44.790 --> 00:54:48.540 and Friday students sign up for a 45 minute time slot 1283 00:54:48.540 --> 00:54:52.380 and they go to their large building on campus, 1284 00:54:52.380 --> 00:54:55.770 which has been completely transformed and outfitted 1285 00:54:55.770 --> 00:54:58.603 and all these different photo opportunities. 1286 00:54:58.603 --> 00:55:01.050 And and people are there, 1287 00:55:01.050 --> 00:55:03.693 like faculty are there taking pictures with them. 1288 00:55:04.830 --> 00:55:06.930 And like they have like some examples would be, 1289 00:55:06.930 --> 00:55:11.010 they have like the plant wall that's like their colors 1290 00:55:11.010 --> 00:55:15.390 of orange or it's yellow and purple and shimmer walls 1291 00:55:15.390 --> 00:55:18.450 and they have like a big poster sign that's like, thank you. 1292 00:55:18.450 --> 00:55:19.680 And every language 1293 00:55:19.680 --> 00:55:23.580 and the shape of the world map, 1294 00:55:23.580 --> 00:55:27.480 they have a really cool magazine plexiglass thing they made 1295 00:55:27.480 --> 00:55:29.310 that said like U Albany magazine. 1296 00:55:29.310 --> 00:55:33.360 And like you can go in behind it and like do a pose 1297 00:55:33.360 --> 00:55:36.180 and then it ends with a stage 1298 00:55:36.180 --> 00:55:40.020 and on the stages when someone calls their name 1299 00:55:40.020 --> 00:55:42.330 and they have the picture with their diploma. 1300 00:55:42.330 --> 00:55:44.940 So it's like a mimicking moment of crossing the stage 1301 00:55:44.940 --> 00:55:47.640 and hearing your name called and having your photo taken 1302 00:55:47.640 --> 00:55:49.050 and your family and friends are there. 1303 00:55:49.050 --> 00:55:52.080 But you have like many minutes so you're able 1304 00:55:52.080 --> 00:55:54.330 to take pictures with your family on stage 1305 00:55:54.330 --> 00:55:56.160 and with whoever's there 1306 00:55:56.160 --> 00:55:59.040 and there's like a million photographers everywhere. 1307 00:55:59.040 --> 00:56:01.050 And so they're just getting all these photographs 1308 00:56:01.050 --> 00:56:02.400 and where you're with your family 1309 00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:05.190 and you're going through this experience together. 1310 00:56:05.190 --> 00:56:07.470 And then they still have a main ceremony 1311 00:56:07.470 --> 00:56:09.393 on Sunday morning that's outside. 1312 00:56:10.500 --> 00:56:13.263 I don't know if they have a backup plan, probably not. 1313 00:56:14.520 --> 00:56:15.990 But that's what they started doing. 1314 00:56:15.990 --> 00:56:17.790 I mean I think that their feedback was, 1315 00:56:17.790 --> 00:56:19.560 there are some people who certainly would prefer 1316 00:56:19.560 --> 00:56:21.750 to have a more traditional experience, 1317 00:56:21.750 --> 00:56:23.670 but they've also gotten really good feedback. 1318 00:56:23.670 --> 00:56:26.040 'Cause otherwise they wouldn't keep doing it. Right. 1319 00:56:26.040 --> 00:56:28.800 They did. So that was kind of a radical thing 1320 00:56:28.800 --> 00:56:33.210 that I've found also Case Western, 1321 00:56:33.210 --> 00:56:34.410 which is a higher number 1322 00:56:34.410 --> 00:56:36.810 of graduate students in undergrad, but they still have both. 1323 00:56:36.810 --> 00:56:39.660 It's kind of like, it's kind of a flip flop from us. 1324 00:56:39.660 --> 00:56:43.350 They have many issues with their facilities as well, 1325 00:56:43.350 --> 00:56:46.680 not being air conditioned or not big enough or whatever. 1326 00:56:46.680 --> 00:56:49.020 They have kind of a disastrous commencement experience 1327 00:56:49.020 --> 00:56:50.370 a few years ago. 1328 00:56:50.370 --> 00:56:54.390 So they now have a student only ceremony on Thursday 1329 00:56:54.390 --> 00:56:56.610 afternoon or Wednesday, I can't remember. 1330 00:56:56.610 --> 00:56:57.900 And like they wear T-shirts. 1331 00:56:57.900 --> 00:57:00.060 But it is essentially their main ceremony 1332 00:57:00.060 --> 00:57:02.490 where they do honorary degree, have a commencement speaker, 1333 00:57:02.490 --> 00:57:05.583 student awards, a million different people speak. 1334 00:57:06.720 --> 00:57:09.960 And that's on I think Wednesday or Thursday. 1335 00:57:09.960 --> 00:57:11.280 And then on Friday, Saturday 1336 00:57:11.280 --> 00:57:15.660 and Sunday they have smaller school college ceremonies. 1337 00:57:15.660 --> 00:57:18.990 But there's no like university wide where there are guests. 1338 00:57:18.990 --> 00:57:20.670 It's like a student only thing. 1339 00:57:20.670 --> 00:57:22.530 And then the smaller college school things 1340 00:57:22.530 --> 00:57:25.440 where they cross the stage and get diplomas. 1341 00:57:25.440 --> 00:57:28.680 So has your feedback been around not having that kind 1342 00:57:28.680 --> 00:57:30.453 of singular event? 1343 00:57:31.680 --> 00:57:32.513 Well, yes. 1344 00:57:32.513 --> 00:57:35.790 So, far I've really only heard back from about 75 people. 1345 00:57:35.790 --> 00:57:37.397 So when you think about 3,400 graduates 1346 00:57:37.397 --> 00:57:40.830 and 15,000 people, that's not a huge number. Right. 1347 00:57:40.830 --> 00:57:43.860 But what we are hearing is pretty themed 1348 00:57:43.860 --> 00:57:45.539 and that they're feeling like 1349 00:57:45.539 --> 00:57:48.120 they need a main ceremony on the Green 1350 00:57:48.120 --> 00:57:51.030 or something of significance on the University Green 1351 00:57:51.030 --> 00:57:52.730 where they can celebrate together. 1352 00:57:53.700 --> 00:57:55.140 There's a misinformation, right. 1353 00:57:55.140 --> 00:57:57.030 'Cause they're, I wanna celebrate with my friends. 1354 00:57:57.030 --> 00:57:58.740 Well you're still organized by college 1355 00:57:58.740 --> 00:58:00.340 and school at the main ceremony. 1356 00:58:01.320 --> 00:58:02.910 So there's like 1357 00:58:02.910 --> 00:58:05.820 that I can't give you when I have an organized, 1358 00:58:05.820 --> 00:58:08.726 not chaotic experience for everybody. 1359 00:58:08.726 --> 00:58:12.180 So that's really the most of it is the most of the feedback 1360 00:58:12.180 --> 00:58:13.620 that we're getting with that. 1361 00:58:13.620 --> 00:58:15.960 And I think people really don't like change. 1362 00:58:15.960 --> 00:58:18.420 Like we all know that. Right. It's really hard. 1363 00:58:18.420 --> 00:58:21.210 I think when you, for the people who it's important to, 1364 00:58:21.210 --> 00:58:24.540 when you envision something for so long being a certain way 1365 00:58:24.540 --> 00:58:26.520 to have someone tell you that that's not gonna 1366 00:58:26.520 --> 00:58:29.130 be that way specifically for this event 1367 00:58:29.130 --> 00:58:31.020 as they experienced during COVID. 1368 00:58:31.020 --> 00:58:33.120 It's like you're taking something fundamental away 1369 00:58:33.120 --> 00:58:33.953 from them. 1370 00:58:34.890 --> 00:58:37.500 And I recognize that it is really hard to think about this. 1371 00:58:37.500 --> 00:58:38.910 I've also had months 1372 00:58:38.910 --> 00:58:41.610 to work on mourning this thing on the Green 1373 00:58:41.610 --> 00:58:43.320 like many months. 1374 00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:44.880 And I'm kind of over it. Right. 1375 00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:46.590 At this point I'm ready to like move on 1376 00:58:46.590 --> 00:58:48.000 and be like, "Let's make this other thing 1377 00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:49.400 great if we're gonna do it." 1378 00:58:50.340 --> 00:58:54.090 It's really cool though that you are going to take 1379 00:58:54.090 --> 00:58:56.010 their first year experience 1380 00:58:56.010 --> 00:58:59.848 and Yeah, close it out with their last year experience, 1381 00:58:59.848 --> 00:59:02.100 and have them both be at Twilight Center. 1382 00:59:02.100 --> 00:59:04.140 I don't know if everyone knows about that though. 1383 00:59:04.140 --> 00:59:07.680 So like our first year students when they come here 1384 00:59:07.680 --> 00:59:10.260 after their, they arrive like Wednesday, Thursday 1385 00:59:10.260 --> 00:59:13.230 and they go through this kind of whole orientation process. 1386 00:59:13.230 --> 00:59:16.380 And then traditionally and historically the night 1387 00:59:16.380 --> 00:59:19.980 before class starts, we have this thing called convocation, 1388 00:59:19.980 --> 00:59:21.480 which is to welcome our first year 1389 00:59:21.480 --> 00:59:23.070 and is for first years only. 1390 00:59:23.070 --> 00:59:26.220 It now takes place on the Davis Center Green 1391 00:59:26.220 --> 00:59:29.130 in Andrew Harris Common Green at the amphitheater there. 1392 00:59:29.130 --> 00:59:31.290 And it's a very brief 15 minute ceremony. 1393 00:59:31.290 --> 00:59:33.000 And then the entire class 1394 00:59:33.000 --> 00:59:36.840 of first years processes down university place that's closed 1395 00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:38.340 to the University Green. 1396 00:59:38.340 --> 00:59:40.380 And they have a twilight induction ceremony 1397 00:59:40.380 --> 00:59:42.150 where they read the, our common ground pledge 1398 00:59:42.150 --> 00:59:45.090 and become inducted members of the UVM community. 1399 00:59:45.090 --> 00:59:48.360 And it's a candlelight vigil and it's really lovely 1400 00:59:48.360 --> 00:59:50.310 and beautiful and like you're right. 1401 00:59:50.310 --> 00:59:51.930 Like that's their first moment 1402 00:59:51.930 --> 00:59:54.017 and then four years later they come and they bookend it. 1403 00:59:54.017 --> 00:59:56.310 And so we wanna make that Friday thing 1404 00:59:56.310 --> 00:59:59.820 and our proposal is special and as that is right. 1405 00:59:59.820 --> 01:00:01.830 Meaningful as that experience of, 1406 01:00:01.830 --> 01:00:03.120 I think it has to be the same. 1407 01:00:03.120 --> 01:00:04.560 It doesn't have to mimic it, 1408 01:00:04.560 --> 01:00:07.353 but I think it is like kind of a bookend to it all. 1409 01:00:13.619 --> 01:00:15.427 Is there anything we can help with? Like- 1410 01:00:15.427 --> 01:00:18.810 I mean, I think being positive about the potential changes 1411 01:00:18.810 --> 01:00:21.540 and understanding that they're being driven by care 1412 01:00:21.540 --> 01:00:24.900 and concern that our students, all of them, every single one 1413 01:00:24.900 --> 01:00:27.267 of them have an experience that is good for them 1414 01:00:27.267 --> 01:00:28.980 and that they get it right. 1415 01:00:28.980 --> 01:00:31.440 Like I get, I get really worried about CAS, 1416 01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:32.610 our largest college schools. 1417 01:00:32.610 --> 01:00:35.370 It's like almost half of our student population. 1418 01:00:35.370 --> 01:00:37.680 And what would happen if their ceremony got canceled 1419 01:00:37.680 --> 01:00:40.590 on the Green and we used to be able to ticket 1420 01:00:40.590 --> 01:00:43.470 at it was four tickets per graduate 1421 01:00:43.470 --> 01:00:46.290 and then it became two tickets per graduate in the event 1422 01:00:46.290 --> 01:00:47.667 of severe weather where we'd move it there. 1423 01:00:47.667 --> 01:00:49.593 But we can't do that anymore. 1424 01:00:50.640 --> 01:00:52.200 We can't, like we can give them like one ticket 1425 01:00:52.200 --> 01:00:54.360 and that's like not a real thing. 1426 01:00:54.360 --> 01:00:57.360 So I think that's my driver. 1427 01:00:57.360 --> 01:00:59.430 It's just making sure that people get the experience 1428 01:00:59.430 --> 01:01:00.810 that they do deserve. 1429 01:01:00.810 --> 01:01:04.470 Even if it looks different from what it has been. 1430 01:01:04.470 --> 01:01:07.410 And I think also the accessibility piece is super important. 1431 01:01:07.410 --> 01:01:10.290 All we see our accessibility needs getting 1432 01:01:10.290 --> 01:01:11.910 greater every year, right? 1433 01:01:11.910 --> 01:01:14.430 Like our parking lots are spilling over 1434 01:01:14.430 --> 01:01:18.219 and we're like, we used to just have to use behind 1435 01:01:18.219 --> 01:01:19.680 Peer Spalding house. 1436 01:01:19.680 --> 01:01:23.640 Like the college visitors street lot was all we needed 1437 01:01:23.640 --> 01:01:26.451 and now we need part of Waterman two. 1438 01:01:26.451 --> 01:01:31.140 And you know, it's using wheelchairs 1439 01:01:31.140 --> 01:01:34.023 to take people across the green doesn't feel great. 1440 01:01:35.790 --> 01:01:37.650 We always get complaints about audio 1441 01:01:37.650 --> 01:01:40.560 'cause those buildings just bounce sound off. 1442 01:01:40.560 --> 01:01:45.560 It's like this cavern of audio challenges. 1443 01:01:46.230 --> 01:01:48.858 I mean there's a lot of things like there's a lot to it. 1444 01:01:48.858 --> 01:01:49.691 But you know, for me, 1445 01:01:49.691 --> 01:01:51.720 I think it's making sure we give a really great 1446 01:01:51.720 --> 01:01:53.040 experience to our grad students. 1447 01:01:53.040 --> 01:01:54.840 And for me as an event planner, 1448 01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:56.190 what is the best way we can do that 1449 01:01:56.190 --> 01:01:59.490 and meet everybody's needs, not just one specific group. 1450 01:01:59.490 --> 01:02:02.322 Yeah. I have a question. Yes. 1451 01:02:02.322 --> 01:02:05.319 I have to say I, I went to UVM 1452 01:02:05.319 --> 01:02:08.460 and I didn't go to the ceremony in Green, 1453 01:02:08.460 --> 01:02:10.500 but I did go to my college one 1454 01:02:10.500 --> 01:02:12.810 and then I had two graduate degrees that were in, 1455 01:02:12.810 --> 01:02:14.010 you know, industrial spaces. 1456 01:02:14.010 --> 01:02:16.653 It was really fun, you know, so, I only happen, 1457 01:02:18.300 --> 01:02:21.810 but is a finite number of like, 1458 01:02:21.810 --> 01:02:23.670 will the school continue to grow? 1459 01:02:23.670 --> 01:02:25.470 Will we need to go through this exercise again 1460 01:02:25.470 --> 01:02:26.610 to find a bigger space? 1461 01:02:26.610 --> 01:02:29.220 You know, I think the, the sort of. 1462 01:02:29.220 --> 01:02:32.910 I think that we have room to grow with the expo, 1463 01:02:32.910 --> 01:02:34.620 which I think is good. 1464 01:02:34.620 --> 01:02:38.043 I think things may shift, right? 1465 01:02:38.043 --> 01:02:39.270 Like gross small school business 1466 01:02:39.270 --> 01:02:41.937 and Sims specifically in CALS are hot right now. 1467 01:02:41.937 --> 01:02:44.217 And I think it just depends on where the programs are 1468 01:02:44.217 --> 01:02:46.140 and the interest is. 1469 01:02:46.140 --> 01:02:48.690 I think that in this event, if we're able 1470 01:02:48.690 --> 01:02:51.270 to spread it over two days, we're gonna be good for years 1471 01:02:51.270 --> 01:02:54.660 to come until someone builds me our new reading, our stadium 1472 01:02:54.660 --> 01:02:58.470 that meets my needs, which I believe will never happen 1473 01:02:58.470 --> 01:02:59.850 because we don't live in a place 1474 01:02:59.850 --> 01:03:02.100 that even has a million people the entire State. 1475 01:03:02.100 --> 01:03:03.030 If you think about it like 1476 01:03:03.030 --> 01:03:05.220 that is the challenge of Vermont 1477 01:03:05.220 --> 01:03:09.420 is that we don't have a space to do these large events 1478 01:03:09.420 --> 01:03:12.543 that we don't have to have a backup weather plan for. 1479 01:03:13.680 --> 01:03:16.110 And you know, so that's a disadvantage for us compared 1480 01:03:16.110 --> 01:03:19.080 to some of the other schools in the Northeast that are close 1481 01:03:19.080 --> 01:03:22.414 to large cities where they can have it at, you know, 1482 01:03:22.414 --> 01:03:26.670 like correct for Fenway Park, 1483 01:03:26.670 --> 01:03:28.230 which is where some people have it, 1484 01:03:28.230 --> 01:03:32.310 you know, so Madison Square Garden, like we don't have that. 1485 01:03:32.310 --> 01:03:33.720 So we have the expo though 1486 01:03:33.720 --> 01:03:35.470 and I'm actually grateful for that. 1487 01:03:36.330 --> 01:03:39.660 What's the largest attendance group you mentioned Cass? 1488 01:03:39.660 --> 01:03:43.170 Yeah so that's, they have three ceremonies. Oh. 1489 01:03:43.170 --> 01:03:46.500 Because they already exceed the limit of those pavilions. 1490 01:03:46.500 --> 01:03:49.080 Yeah. Like we couldn't have one ceremony 1491 01:03:49.080 --> 01:03:50.760 for the whole group. 1492 01:03:50.760 --> 01:03:53.970 Yeah. Which is not an uncommon thing. 1493 01:03:53.970 --> 01:03:56.370 Schools do that all over the country 1494 01:03:56.370 --> 01:04:00.780 where they will split a school into different programs. 1495 01:04:00.780 --> 01:04:02.370 Then how do you do that by like- 1496 01:04:02.370 --> 01:04:03.203 They already did it. 1497 01:04:03.203 --> 01:04:04.230 They already figured it out. 1498 01:04:04.230 --> 01:04:07.800 So like they just looked at their numbers of senior standing 1499 01:04:07.800 --> 01:04:11.316 and said, "Okay, here's where we think we divided up." 1500 01:04:11.316 --> 01:04:12.149 Yeah. 1501 01:04:15.660 --> 01:04:17.010 Thank you. 1502 01:04:17.010 --> 01:04:17.843 Thanks for having me. 1503 01:04:17.843 --> 01:04:20.913 I feel like I took way more time than it's allotted. 1504 01:04:25.776 --> 01:04:28.380 But you can do, Monica is be positive about it. 1505 01:04:28.380 --> 01:04:32.700 And say the team is doing the work to make sure that you 1506 01:04:32.700 --> 01:04:34.290 and your family or your family 1507 01:04:34.290 --> 01:04:37.050 and your child get the best commencement experience. 1508 01:04:37.050 --> 01:04:39.450 Like wherever it's going to be, 1509 01:04:39.450 --> 01:04:41.350 we are committed to making it awesome. 1510 01:04:43.290 --> 01:04:44.943 That would be the theme that. 1511 01:04:46.140 --> 01:04:47.340 I think we can do that. 1512 01:04:47.340 --> 01:04:48.180 Thank you. 1513 01:04:48.180 --> 01:04:49.994 Thanks for having me. 1514 01:04:49.994 --> 01:04:51.837 Okay. It's great. Sure. 1515 01:04:51.837 --> 01:04:53.790 For the nice honor. 1516 01:04:53.790 --> 01:04:55.240 Yeah, it's beautiful there. 1517 01:04:59.370 --> 01:05:00.273 Interesting. 1518 01:05:05.490 --> 01:05:09.843 My big arrow is that's where we're, but I don't know. 1519 01:05:12.480 --> 01:05:15.870 All right, we have three agenda items left. 1520 01:05:15.870 --> 01:05:18.870 So committee updates, officer updates, 1521 01:05:18.870 --> 01:05:21.630 council member concerns and comments. 1522 01:05:21.630 --> 01:05:23.580 And we have four minutes. 1523 01:05:23.580 --> 01:05:27.870 So what, what do you guys think you wanna hear about? 1524 01:05:27.870 --> 01:05:29.343 What's most important to you? 1525 01:05:31.080 --> 01:05:32.945 Probably the officer. 1526 01:05:32.945 --> 01:05:33.778 Okay. 1527 01:05:35.587 --> 01:05:37.260 What was the last one, Mike? 1528 01:05:37.260 --> 01:05:39.843 Concerns? Council member concerns? 1529 01:05:41.310 --> 01:05:44.583 Right. So council updates, 1530 01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:50.850 the biggest update I think we can all just make 1531 01:05:50.850 --> 01:05:52.890 sure that everyone has a really good understanding 1532 01:05:52.890 --> 01:05:56.703 about is the benefits fair and open enrollment. 1533 01:05:58.800 --> 01:06:02.490 It is what we call an active enrollment. 1534 01:06:02.490 --> 01:06:05.530 This is a huge change at UVM 1535 01:06:06.420 --> 01:06:10.770 where once you got hired, you just never looked at it again 1536 01:06:10.770 --> 01:06:12.210 for your benefits 1537 01:06:12.210 --> 01:06:16.290 and moving forward, including this year, 1538 01:06:16.290 --> 01:06:17.850 you have to log in, 1539 01:06:17.850 --> 01:06:20.370 you have to assess every benefit you have, 1540 01:06:20.370 --> 01:06:23.100 whether you wanna keep it, whether you wanna drop it, 1541 01:06:23.100 --> 01:06:24.393 whether you wanna add it. 1542 01:06:26.100 --> 01:06:28.530 Some of those benefits have new 1543 01:06:28.530 --> 01:06:31.920 and different offerings for different populations. 1544 01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:35.088 Most specifically the health insurance, 1545 01:06:35.088 --> 01:06:40.088 non-represented staff will have a choice of four plans. 1546 01:06:41.490 --> 01:06:43.560 And if you know people 1547 01:06:43.560 --> 01:06:48.480 or are a person who has a choice on those plans, 1548 01:06:48.480 --> 01:06:49.950 I think the most important message 1549 01:06:49.950 --> 01:06:54.390 we can get at there is meet with somebody to discuss 1550 01:06:54.390 --> 01:06:56.790 what those plan changes would look like 1551 01:06:56.790 --> 01:06:59.220 and how they would impact your paycheck 1552 01:06:59.220 --> 01:07:01.590 and how they would impact your family 1553 01:07:01.590 --> 01:07:03.720 and how they would impact your visit. 1554 01:07:03.720 --> 01:07:06.000 Because those plans are very different 1555 01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:07.653 than what we have right now. 1556 01:07:08.980 --> 01:07:11.460 And my greatest concern is just that people 1557 01:07:11.460 --> 01:07:13.860 who have been under the current plan, 1558 01:07:13.860 --> 01:07:15.570 if they're interested in making a change, 1559 01:07:15.570 --> 01:07:18.000 that they are truly informed 1560 01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:20.550 about what that change would look like. 1561 01:07:20.550 --> 01:07:23.437 I don't want anybody showing up at the doctor's office like, 1562 01:07:23.437 --> 01:07:27.247 "Oh my God, I didn't know that was gonna be my copay." 1563 01:07:27.247 --> 01:07:30.867 "Oh my God, how do I build this deductible base?" 1564 01:07:31.800 --> 01:07:34.590 And in all fairness, I think that HR has expressed 1565 01:07:34.590 --> 01:07:39.590 to us that their expectation is just start creating options. 1566 01:07:39.840 --> 01:07:42.360 They don't really expect a lot of transition 1567 01:07:42.360 --> 01:07:46.080 because they do understand that people need time 1568 01:07:46.080 --> 01:07:49.380 and they're actually working on creating different models 1569 01:07:49.380 --> 01:07:53.370 so that people can, you know, play What's it like 1570 01:07:53.370 --> 01:07:56.763 to have plan A, what's it like to have plan B? 1571 01:07:58.800 --> 01:08:00.660 The other update that I think is really important 1572 01:08:00.660 --> 01:08:03.390 to share is that we have a couple senior leadership 1573 01:08:03.390 --> 01:08:04.410 positions open. 1574 01:08:04.410 --> 01:08:06.600 So the CIO search 1575 01:08:06.600 --> 01:08:08.550 and most recently spoke with Jonathan 1576 01:08:08.550 --> 01:08:10.503 about in our last meeting. 1577 01:08:12.360 --> 01:08:16.556 That has been challenging for the university. 1578 01:08:16.556 --> 01:08:20.220 IT is a very, very competitive market. 1579 01:08:20.220 --> 01:08:23.130 People outside of university settings get 80 1580 01:08:23.130 --> 01:08:27.063 what of money to work in those jobs. 1581 01:08:28.680 --> 01:08:33.330 So attracting talent at what we're willing to offer 1582 01:08:33.330 --> 01:08:37.413 and what we're able is potentially a barrier. 1583 01:08:39.240 --> 01:08:41.650 So that search remains active 1584 01:08:43.536 --> 01:08:45.420 and I think it's important. 1585 01:08:45.420 --> 01:08:46.800 This was really eye-opening 1586 01:08:46.800 --> 01:08:49.110 for myself to kind of have that perspective 1587 01:08:49.110 --> 01:08:50.577 because we hear about the union 1588 01:08:50.577 --> 01:08:52.980 and negotiations and salaries 1589 01:08:52.980 --> 01:08:57.480 and there's a lot of talk about senior leadership positions. 1590 01:08:57.480 --> 01:09:02.480 And what just became really painfully aware to me is that, 1591 01:09:02.850 --> 01:09:05.550 you know, we have senior leadership roles at the university 1592 01:09:05.550 --> 01:09:10.550 that we need to have filled for operational purposes. 1593 01:09:10.650 --> 01:09:15.650 And that because of the larger market on a national scale, 1594 01:09:16.470 --> 01:09:18.630 you know, it's not that UVM necessarily wants 1595 01:09:18.630 --> 01:09:19.890 to pay these high salaries, 1596 01:09:19.890 --> 01:09:22.470 it's just what we have to do to get the people 1597 01:09:22.470 --> 01:09:25.320 here to keep the doors open. 1598 01:09:25.320 --> 01:09:27.887 And that was a little humbling for me. 1599 01:09:29.320 --> 01:09:30.393 Okay. Thank you. 1600 01:09:33.420 --> 01:09:36.480 The senior leadership position 1601 01:09:36.480 --> 01:09:39.600 for communications is open. 1602 01:09:39.600 --> 01:09:41.463 Joel Siegelman is stepping down. 1603 01:09:43.050 --> 01:09:45.990 The plans are, just to use an interim, 1604 01:09:45.990 --> 01:09:48.610 Alex is gonna be served as the interim 1605 01:09:50.100 --> 01:09:54.030 mostly because we are in a presidential search 1606 01:09:54.030 --> 01:09:57.390 and a lot of times these leadership roles are aligned 1607 01:09:57.390 --> 01:09:58.800 with senior leadership 1608 01:09:58.800 --> 01:10:01.510 and also trying to minimize 1609 01:10:02.670 --> 01:10:05.430 the change in within a time period. 1610 01:10:05.430 --> 01:10:07.200 Right spread it out. 1611 01:10:07.200 --> 01:10:10.410 Any other questions based on what we submitted 1612 01:10:10.410 --> 01:10:11.430 in the documents 1613 01:10:11.430 --> 01:10:13.140 or any other topics 1614 01:10:13.140 --> 01:10:17.400 that might come up from senior administration? 1615 01:10:17.400 --> 01:10:21.780 Hope everybody saw the ad for the President 1616 01:10:21.780 --> 01:10:24.600 that Ron Lumbar signed out on Friday. 1617 01:10:24.600 --> 01:10:27.900 The search committee had the opportunity to evaluate 1618 01:10:27.900 --> 01:10:30.300 that document before it went out 1619 01:10:30.300 --> 01:10:33.600 and the information 1620 01:10:33.600 --> 01:10:36.960 that was provided from the individuals who commented 1621 01:10:36.960 --> 01:10:38.070 was included. 1622 01:10:38.070 --> 01:10:42.240 So we have very, very collaborative process. 1623 01:10:42.240 --> 01:10:44.490 So that's just me reporting out as a member 1624 01:10:44.490 --> 01:10:45.360 of the search committee 1625 01:10:45.360 --> 01:10:49.040 that a lot of the ideas about engagement 1626 01:10:49.040 --> 01:10:53.760 and community voice is really being taken to heart. 1627 01:10:53.760 --> 01:10:55.290 This is the second time, 1628 01:10:55.290 --> 01:10:57.240 the first time was in having the survey 1629 01:10:57.240 --> 01:10:59.430 and the listening sessions and now. 1630 01:10:59.430 --> 01:11:02.880 So I feel very confident that the process 1631 01:11:02.880 --> 01:11:05.140 is moving forward in the best possible way 1632 01:11:06.600 --> 01:11:11.550 and keep, keep the comments coming, the surveys still open, 1633 01:11:11.550 --> 01:11:12.930 keep your thoughts open 1634 01:11:12.930 --> 01:11:16.953 about what we can have as agenda items with HR. 1635 01:11:18.750 --> 01:11:23.670 We have governance meetings that are, 1636 01:11:23.670 --> 01:11:26.700 I feel very successful between faculty senate, 1637 01:11:26.700 --> 01:11:27.880 student government 1638 01:11:29.190 --> 01:11:32.940 and graduate students and staff counsel. 1639 01:11:32.940 --> 01:11:35.220 We had a meeting last night, it was just a half an hour, 1640 01:11:35.220 --> 01:11:39.720 but very productive to get those key voices in the same room 1641 01:11:39.720 --> 01:11:43.110 about concerns regarding food insecurity. 1642 01:11:43.110 --> 01:11:44.910 We talked about last night a little bit 1643 01:11:44.910 --> 01:11:47.850 about healthcare options and how that's being played out. 1644 01:11:47.850 --> 01:11:51.210 So please communicate 1645 01:11:51.210 --> 01:11:53.643 with your constituents on, on that. 1646 01:11:53.643 --> 01:11:55.373 I feel like we still have a lot of room 1647 01:11:55.373 --> 01:11:58.953 to work on the whole trickle down and you know, 1648 01:12:00.600 --> 01:12:04.140 and involve larger people. 1649 01:12:04.140 --> 01:12:07.950 So any final thoughts before we close it out? 1650 01:12:07.950 --> 01:12:09.630 Is that meeting you just talked about, will those, 1651 01:12:09.630 --> 01:12:11.940 are those minutes posted anywhere 1652 01:12:11.940 --> 01:12:13.770 or are you just giving a recap here for us? 1653 01:12:13.770 --> 01:12:17.400 You know, I think they kind of started out as, 1654 01:12:17.400 --> 01:12:19.020 we wanna give you a quick update 1655 01:12:19.020 --> 01:12:21.180 because we have this encampment on campus. 1656 01:12:21.180 --> 01:12:22.100 Okay. 1657 01:12:22.100 --> 01:12:24.330 So that's a really excellent suggestion. 1658 01:12:24.330 --> 01:12:27.600 I'm not sure that we have anybody taking minutes. 1659 01:12:27.600 --> 01:12:30.390 So I'll bring that back to the team to find out 1660 01:12:30.390 --> 01:12:32.670 what the best way is to get 1661 01:12:32.670 --> 01:12:34.560 that information out. Thank you. 1662 01:12:34.560 --> 01:12:36.810 And if it's just that you give us the update, 1663 01:12:36.810 --> 01:12:38.385 that's also useful to us. 1664 01:12:38.385 --> 01:12:39.218 Yeah. Yeah. 1665 01:12:39.218 --> 01:12:41.640 But that would just be for staff council, right? 1666 01:12:41.640 --> 01:12:44.340 So those, you know, maybe there's a role 1667 01:12:44.340 --> 01:12:45.990 in having something that communicates 1668 01:12:45.990 --> 01:12:48.300 it to all of those groups. 1669 01:12:48.300 --> 01:12:50.223 So. Excellent suggest. Thank you. 1670 01:12:52.140 --> 01:12:53.100 I'll just put in a plug 1671 01:12:53.100 --> 01:12:56.880 for signing up for the volunteer links 1672 01:12:56.880 --> 01:12:59.940 that Alan sent out for the Holiday Bazaar 1673 01:12:59.940 --> 01:13:00.773 and then, 1674 01:13:03.690 --> 01:13:05.160 no. 1675 01:13:05.160 --> 01:13:06.000 Oh yeah, that's fine. 1676 01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:09.000 Oh, and then newsy tickets are still left to sell. 1677 01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:10.260 Okay. 1678 01:13:10.260 --> 01:13:11.222 Yeah. 1679 01:13:11.222 --> 01:13:14.700 And just refer to staff line for like actual activities 1680 01:13:14.700 --> 01:13:16.080 that the different communities 1681 01:13:16.080 --> 01:13:18.453 have going since we didn't do an update today. 1682 01:13:19.320 --> 01:13:22.053 And the Wine Tour was turned down by Risk Management. 1683 01:13:25.980 --> 01:13:28.770 Opportunity to find something new. Right? 1684 01:13:28.770 --> 01:13:31.153 Cheer below quorum so the meeting is adjourned. 1685 01:13:31.153 --> 01:13:33.660 I still talk but the meeting is officially adjourned. 1686 01:13:33.660 --> 01:13:35.670 All right. Think so I have 135 or? 1687 01:13:36.960 --> 01:13:38.493 Yeah. Perfect. 1688 01:13:40.950 --> 01:13:42.730 That was a lost doing out.