1 00:00:00,380 --> 00:00:03,930 - We are going to be giving kind of a brief overview 2 00:00:03,930 --> 00:00:08,030 of what PBIS is, what the responsibilities 3 00:00:08,030 --> 00:00:10,730 and competencies are for any team members 4 00:00:10,730 --> 00:00:12,570 who are part of your PBIS team. 5 00:00:12,570 --> 00:00:16,600 The school and SU/SD coordinators, and the administrator. 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,100 And then, so that part will be relevant 7 00:00:20,100 --> 00:00:21,370 to even those of you 8 00:00:21,370 --> 00:00:25,210 who are currently implementing PBIS schools. 9 00:00:25,210 --> 00:00:28,540 And then the second half is really about 10 00:00:28,540 --> 00:00:31,540 how to become a PBIS school in Vermont. 11 00:00:31,540 --> 00:00:33,940 So what is kind of the scope and sequence 12 00:00:33,940 --> 00:00:35,820 and readiness steps. 13 00:00:35,820 --> 00:00:38,200 So if you're attending today from a school 14 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:39,860 that is already implementing PBIS, 15 00:00:39,860 --> 00:00:42,380 that part probably won't be as helpful for you. 16 00:00:42,380 --> 00:00:45,880 You're welcome to stay on for it 17 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:47,100 or you're welcome to sign off 18 00:00:47,100 --> 00:00:48,940 whenever you realize we're at a point 19 00:00:48,940 --> 00:00:50,410 that's not so relevant for you. 20 00:00:50,410 --> 00:00:53,113 So no hard feelings when that happens. 21 00:00:54,461 --> 00:00:56,070 And then we just wanna make you aware 22 00:00:56,070 --> 00:00:58,690 of all the supports that are available to you 23 00:00:58,690 --> 00:01:01,660 as you're exploring and implementing PBIS in Vermont, 24 00:01:01,660 --> 00:01:03,763 and then have a chance for any questions. 25 00:01:05,980 --> 00:01:10,980 So just kind of how, so you can have a scope in your mind. 26 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,080 We began PBIS in Vermont in 2007, 27 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,010 with three schools and one SU, 28 00:01:18,010 --> 00:01:22,250 and have grown over the years significantly to this year 29 00:01:22,250 --> 00:01:27,250 when we now have 164 PBIS schools and 48 SUs. 30 00:01:28,070 --> 00:01:31,340 So I think that's, I'm forgetting my percentages now, 31 00:01:31,340 --> 00:01:34,653 but I think there's only like 52 SUs in the state now. 32 00:01:35,900 --> 00:01:38,480 So you are joining a big family. 33 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,810 We just had a coordinator's meeting last week 34 00:01:40,810 --> 00:01:42,010 that some of you were on 35 00:01:42,010 --> 00:01:45,290 that I think had like 70 coordinators on. 36 00:01:45,290 --> 00:01:50,140 So many schools have found during this time period of COVID 37 00:01:50,140 --> 00:01:53,700 and last year remote learning, this year remote learning, 38 00:01:53,700 --> 00:01:54,980 that their PBIS framework 39 00:01:54,980 --> 00:01:57,320 has been really helpful for them to lean on. 40 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,600 And so they are still really engaged with the work 41 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,740 and with us, to be able to learn how to adapt 42 00:02:05,740 --> 00:02:09,760 some of the practices and other pieces of PBIS 43 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,470 to this new environment. 44 00:02:12,470 --> 00:02:15,080 So I will include a few examples of that 45 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:16,793 throughout this webinar too. 46 00:02:17,870 --> 00:02:19,590 Obviously this was originally designed 47 00:02:19,590 --> 00:02:21,150 for in-person learning, 48 00:02:21,150 --> 00:02:22,950 but I did try to make some adaptations 49 00:02:22,950 --> 00:02:26,070 because who knows what next school year will look like, 50 00:02:26,070 --> 00:02:27,740 if you're a school that's exploring 51 00:02:27,740 --> 00:02:30,140 implementation this year to implement next year. 52 00:02:31,740 --> 00:02:35,410 So for those of you who are brand new, PBIS stands for 53 00:02:35,410 --> 00:02:38,610 Positive Behavioral Interventions and Supports. 54 00:02:38,610 --> 00:02:43,280 And it really comes from the ABA world, 55 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,770 so applied behavioral analysis. 56 00:02:46,770 --> 00:02:49,340 Comes from working with students with disabilities 57 00:02:49,340 --> 00:02:52,330 and has been broadened to really work 58 00:02:52,330 --> 00:02:54,420 as a whole school framework. 59 00:02:54,420 --> 00:02:58,070 And like Martha and Sherry were mentioning, 60 00:02:58,070 --> 00:02:59,530 it really is that framework 61 00:02:59,530 --> 00:03:03,630 for you to be able to embed any evidence-based practices 62 00:03:04,590 --> 00:03:07,770 related to social, emotional, behavioral learning, 63 00:03:07,770 --> 00:03:09,850 in order for all students to really achieve 64 00:03:09,850 --> 00:03:12,920 academic and behavioral success. 65 00:03:12,920 --> 00:03:17,173 So we were mentioning there might be some other practices 66 00:03:18,170 --> 00:03:20,950 or curriculum or supports 67 00:03:20,950 --> 00:03:23,780 that you wanna embed within your PBIS framework. 68 00:03:23,780 --> 00:03:25,810 And we'll talk about how the framework 69 00:03:25,810 --> 00:03:28,373 supports those other practices. 70 00:03:29,370 --> 00:03:32,230 So it's really not kind of a packaged deal 71 00:03:32,230 --> 00:03:34,510 where you show up and you get a binder and say 72 00:03:34,510 --> 00:03:37,680 this is how PBIS looks in every school. 73 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,943 It's really context-dependent. 74 00:03:40,820 --> 00:03:44,990 So we do, when you think about context, 75 00:03:44,990 --> 00:03:48,670 in Vermont we have some very very tiny schools. 76 00:03:48,670 --> 00:03:53,670 We have more rural schools, more suburban schools, 77 00:03:54,990 --> 00:03:59,160 and then all of the elementary schools in Burlington 78 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,260 implement PBIS to some degree. 79 00:04:01,260 --> 00:04:04,340 So we have that different type of context 80 00:04:04,340 --> 00:04:07,380 and also elementary, middle and high school. 81 00:04:07,380 --> 00:04:09,113 K-12, K-8. 82 00:04:09,113 --> 00:04:12,160 So all of those schools are really adapting PBIS 83 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:17,160 to what works best for their students and in their context. 84 00:04:17,210 --> 00:04:20,800 So if you were hoping it's kind of a scripted thing 85 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,200 that you receive and we say this is how you do it, 86 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:25,843 it's not quite like that. 87 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,380 And Sherry was also mentioning 88 00:04:28,380 --> 00:04:29,830 there's some belief in her building 89 00:04:29,830 --> 00:04:32,710 that PBIS is really just a reward system. 90 00:04:32,710 --> 00:04:35,580 And for those of you who are more familiar with PBIS, 91 00:04:35,580 --> 00:04:36,880 you kind of have an understanding 92 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,853 that it's really a lot more than that. 93 00:04:40,070 --> 00:04:43,470 And one of the challenges is when 94 00:04:43,470 --> 00:04:45,283 the team comes to training, 95 00:04:46,410 --> 00:04:49,440 bringing back all of those pieces of PBIS. 96 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,053 So sometimes in the rush to roll things out, 97 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,560 the acknowledgement system might be one of the only things 98 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,820 that some of your staff members learn about. 99 00:04:58,820 --> 00:05:03,250 And so that's why this misconception about PBIS 100 00:05:03,250 --> 00:05:08,250 gets perpetuated, because the training of the full staff, 101 00:05:09,820 --> 00:05:11,493 it can be a challenge. 102 00:05:14,180 --> 00:05:16,990 So if you've ever been to any kind of PBIS training 103 00:05:16,990 --> 00:05:19,213 you're probably familiar with this pyramid. 104 00:05:20,250 --> 00:05:23,080 We really think about PBIS in terms of 105 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,350 what do all students in the building need, 106 00:05:26,350 --> 00:05:29,250 what do some need, and what do just a few need? 107 00:05:29,250 --> 00:05:33,487 And this triangle or pyramid can actually be thought of 108 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,543 for staff and for families as well. 109 00:05:38,390 --> 00:05:43,390 So when our strong universal practices are in place 110 00:05:43,450 --> 00:05:45,300 for all of our students, 111 00:05:45,300 --> 00:05:48,270 we would expect, using the public health model, 112 00:05:48,270 --> 00:05:52,270 that about 80% of our students should be seeing success 113 00:05:52,270 --> 00:05:55,183 with just those universal supports. 114 00:05:56,130 --> 00:05:58,583 Thinking about this in terms of academics, 115 00:05:59,931 --> 00:06:04,931 your general reading instruction should be successful 116 00:06:05,260 --> 00:06:06,810 for about 80% of your students, 117 00:06:06,810 --> 00:06:08,950 if you're implementing it with fidelity. 118 00:06:08,950 --> 00:06:10,760 Same for PBIS. 119 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,700 But we know that even when those supports are strong 120 00:06:13,700 --> 00:06:17,650 and in place, in all settings, for all students, 121 00:06:17,650 --> 00:06:19,220 there are going to be some students 122 00:06:19,220 --> 00:06:21,240 who need a little bit more support, 123 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,420 and that's where the targeted level of PBIS 124 00:06:23,420 --> 00:06:24,380 comes into play. 125 00:06:24,380 --> 00:06:27,530 And those are interventions that are able to be 126 00:06:27,530 --> 00:06:31,050 really quickly put into place, 127 00:06:31,050 --> 00:06:34,190 that don't require a whole lot of training for the staff 128 00:06:35,280 --> 00:06:36,440 and for the students. 129 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,870 So the students can kind of slide into those supports 130 00:06:38,870 --> 00:06:41,800 without too much of a barrier, 131 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,080 so that we can meet students when they are at risk 132 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,410 of developing some behavioral concerns, 133 00:06:47,410 --> 00:06:51,590 rather than waiting until those problems kind of boil up 134 00:06:51,590 --> 00:06:53,440 and become really large 135 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,500 and require a more individualized approach. 136 00:06:56,500 --> 00:07:01,490 So a lot of times in schools, at this point in education, 137 00:07:01,490 --> 00:07:04,320 they've got some, even if they're not implementing PBIS, 138 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,440 they've got some universal behavioral related things 139 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,070 that they might be doing. 140 00:07:09,070 --> 00:07:12,730 They have some kind of reactive supports 141 00:07:12,730 --> 00:07:15,510 for when students really need some intensive supports, 142 00:07:15,510 --> 00:07:17,910 because we can't just ignore those students. 143 00:07:17,910 --> 00:07:19,210 Even if you don't have PBIS 144 00:07:19,210 --> 00:07:20,810 you've gotta do something to help students 145 00:07:20,810 --> 00:07:23,310 who need intensive level supports. 146 00:07:23,310 --> 00:07:25,810 But they're often missing those targeted level supports, 147 00:07:25,810 --> 00:07:30,300 which can be really efficient and save resources 148 00:07:30,300 --> 00:07:33,940 for those students that really need the intensive level. 149 00:07:33,940 --> 00:07:37,280 And intensive level supports are really individualized. 150 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,010 There's a team that forms around the students 151 00:07:40,010 --> 00:07:41,700 that need those supports 152 00:07:41,700 --> 00:07:45,170 and includes some pretty complex processing. 153 00:07:45,170 --> 00:07:48,800 It's like a complex functional behavioral assessment 154 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,283 and behavior support plan. 155 00:07:51,150 --> 00:07:52,860 Maybe some wraparound supports 156 00:07:52,860 --> 00:07:57,580 where all providers that are working with that family 157 00:07:57,580 --> 00:08:00,984 are coming together and getting on the same page. 158 00:08:00,984 --> 00:08:03,410 So we wanna reserve that level of support 159 00:08:03,410 --> 00:08:06,330 for students who really really need it. 160 00:08:06,330 --> 00:08:09,790 And the stronger our universal system is, 161 00:08:09,790 --> 00:08:12,043 the fewer students we're gonna see 162 00:08:12,043 --> 00:08:15,643 needing those targeted and intensive level of supports. 163 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:22,070 So thinking about that for a particular student, 164 00:08:22,070 --> 00:08:27,070 you might know students who have a variety of levels 165 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,950 of competency in success and in different areas. 166 00:08:31,950 --> 00:08:36,200 So, for instance, Dylan might respond really well 167 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,240 to the universal reading instruction. 168 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,060 He does really well with his peers. 169 00:08:41,060 --> 00:08:43,400 Attendance could use a little help. 170 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,440 When we start getting into adult relationships and science, 171 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,770 he needs some targeted level supports. 172 00:08:48,770 --> 00:08:50,480 And where he really struggles 173 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,823 are with emotion management and math. 174 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,130 And for kids who struggle with emotion management, 175 00:08:56,130 --> 00:08:58,210 that's often really apparent 176 00:08:58,210 --> 00:09:01,690 because they're the ones who are running from the classroom, 177 00:09:01,690 --> 00:09:05,010 tipping over their desk, throwing things. 178 00:09:05,010 --> 00:09:09,650 And so in a traditional way of thinking about it, 179 00:09:09,650 --> 00:09:12,790 we might call Dylan an intensive student 180 00:09:12,790 --> 00:09:16,483 because he is blowing out of class, he's violent. 181 00:09:17,793 --> 00:09:21,230 And we might be in a meeting where someone says 182 00:09:21,230 --> 00:09:24,193 well our intensive student, this or that. 183 00:09:25,130 --> 00:09:30,130 With PBIS, we really wanna get away from labeling students, 184 00:09:30,250 --> 00:09:33,940 especially by which tier of support they might be accessing 185 00:09:33,940 --> 00:09:35,160 at that time. 186 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:36,750 And when you look at it like this, 187 00:09:36,750 --> 00:09:41,303 you can see that by calling Dylan an intensive student, 188 00:09:42,630 --> 00:09:47,630 it's really not honoring all of the strengths that he has 189 00:09:47,630 --> 00:09:51,850 and kind of puts him into a bucket, in staff members' minds, 190 00:09:51,850 --> 00:09:54,320 that is pretty static. 191 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,680 So we might think that Dylan is always going to be 192 00:09:57,680 --> 00:09:59,410 an intensive student, 193 00:09:59,410 --> 00:10:01,660 because we've given him that label. 194 00:10:01,660 --> 00:10:04,570 Rather than thinking about him holistically, 195 00:10:04,570 --> 00:10:07,430 as a student who has a variety of strengths and needs 196 00:10:07,430 --> 00:10:11,943 and can make improvements in all of these areas. 197 00:10:14,150 --> 00:10:17,730 So I just want you to think for a minute 198 00:10:17,730 --> 00:10:19,980 about a student that you know well, 199 00:10:19,980 --> 00:10:22,500 and if it helps you to kind of map it out 200 00:10:22,500 --> 00:10:24,053 like we did for Dylan, 201 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,890 think about the areas that they see success. 202 00:10:28,890 --> 00:10:30,250 So where are they succeeding 203 00:10:30,250 --> 00:10:32,870 with just the universal level of supports that's in place 204 00:10:32,870 --> 00:10:34,870 for everyone in the building. 205 00:10:34,870 --> 00:10:36,440 Where are some areas that they might need 206 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,710 some targeted supports? 207 00:10:38,710 --> 00:10:40,970 And where are some areas that they might need 208 00:10:40,970 --> 00:10:42,930 intensive level supports? 209 00:10:42,930 --> 00:10:46,030 So I'll just give you two minutes to think about 210 00:10:46,030 --> 00:10:48,240 a particular student right now. 211 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,470 And it might be someone that comes to mind 212 00:10:50,470 --> 00:10:54,460 if you hear something like a tier three student 213 00:10:54,460 --> 00:10:55,790 or an intensive student 214 00:10:55,790 --> 00:10:57,890 or someone using that kind of language, 215 00:10:57,890 --> 00:11:01,540 that's labeling the student rather than the behavior 216 00:11:01,540 --> 00:11:02,863 or the level of support. 217 00:11:04,037 --> 00:11:07,713 And just kind of try to map them out and see what you find. 218 00:11:59,230 --> 00:12:00,680 Just give you another minute. 219 00:12:53,820 --> 00:12:55,430 Okay. 220 00:12:55,430 --> 00:12:59,460 So this might be a good kind of exercise to do 221 00:12:59,460 --> 00:13:02,240 with your staff, especially your staff 222 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:03,680 who are working with some students 223 00:13:03,680 --> 00:13:07,040 who might need some targeted or intensive level supports. 224 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,920 Just to kind of remind them 225 00:13:09,820 --> 00:13:11,490 that everyone's in different places 226 00:13:11,490 --> 00:13:13,470 and needs different levels of supports, 227 00:13:13,470 --> 00:13:14,853 depending on the moment. 228 00:13:16,284 --> 00:13:20,093 So you might think about this in terms of your teachers. 229 00:13:21,210 --> 00:13:26,210 And the tricky thing is, in situations like now with COVID, 230 00:13:27,470 --> 00:13:30,850 you might be thinking that you have more students 231 00:13:30,850 --> 00:13:33,230 or more staff who need some targeted 232 00:13:33,230 --> 00:13:34,660 or intensive level supports, 233 00:13:34,660 --> 00:13:37,160 based on what's going on right now. 234 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,090 And really that's your indication. 235 00:13:39,090 --> 00:13:44,090 If you're starting to see 30, 40% of your students 236 00:13:44,090 --> 00:13:46,900 needing additional supports, 237 00:13:46,900 --> 00:13:50,390 that's when universal really needs to be strengthened. 238 00:13:50,390 --> 00:13:53,760 So thinking about maybe your kindergartners 239 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:58,760 coming in next year, who have been experiencing 240 00:13:59,620 --> 00:14:03,580 all different kinds of environments this past year, 241 00:14:03,580 --> 00:14:05,330 which is always the case with kindergarten 242 00:14:05,330 --> 00:14:06,803 but especially this year. 243 00:14:08,020 --> 00:14:10,740 Thinking about bringing down some of those targeted 244 00:14:10,740 --> 00:14:14,123 and intensive level supports to the universal level, 245 00:14:15,273 --> 00:14:18,610 because there is more need right now. 246 00:14:18,610 --> 00:14:21,950 So rather than kind of waiting for kids to fail 247 00:14:21,950 --> 00:14:24,770 and need some additional level supports, 248 00:14:24,770 --> 00:14:25,840 how can you embed those? 249 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,210 It's just part of what the classroom looks like 250 00:14:28,210 --> 00:14:29,503 for all students. 251 00:14:32,370 --> 00:14:33,203 Okay. 252 00:14:34,140 --> 00:14:37,547 So really the success behind PBIS 253 00:14:37,547 --> 00:14:40,650 and what makes it sustainable over the years, 254 00:14:40,650 --> 00:14:44,790 is this kind of foundation of systems, data and practices. 255 00:14:44,790 --> 00:14:47,610 So if you've come to any PBIS trainings before, 256 00:14:47,610 --> 00:14:49,720 you're probably pretty tired of us talking about 257 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,960 systems, data and practices. 258 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,440 But it really is the most important piece 259 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:59,310 that makes PBIS possible in schools. 260 00:14:59,310 --> 00:15:00,860 So if you think about the systems, 261 00:15:00,860 --> 00:15:04,960 those are really in place to support the staff behavior. 262 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,003 So those are things like your leadership team, 263 00:15:09,220 --> 00:15:13,100 making PBIS a priority within your district 264 00:15:13,100 --> 00:15:14,620 and within your school. 265 00:15:14,620 --> 00:15:18,200 And that priority is really visible to the staff, 266 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,380 so they know that this is what we're focused on this year 267 00:15:22,380 --> 00:15:23,733 and into the future. 268 00:15:25,594 --> 00:15:27,960 And that they are going to get the resources 269 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,620 and professional development and support that they need 270 00:15:30,620 --> 00:15:32,593 in order to implement really well. 271 00:15:34,090 --> 00:15:37,970 The data is there to support decision-making. 272 00:15:37,970 --> 00:15:42,970 So schools that implement PBIS find that the data piece 273 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,240 is really something that was lacking 274 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,840 in terms of their social, emotional and behavioral supports 275 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,200 for students in the past. 276 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,560 So maybe they had a system 277 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,500 where they were collecting behavioral referrals 278 00:15:54,500 --> 00:15:57,400 for when a student had to go to the office for a behavior, 279 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,903 but nothing really was ever done with those referrals. 280 00:16:02,230 --> 00:16:06,800 Versus in PBIS, we're looking at a variety of data sources 281 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,460 and then doing something about it. 282 00:16:08,460 --> 00:16:10,410 So designing interventions, 283 00:16:10,410 --> 00:16:13,423 based on the data that we're seeing. 284 00:16:14,300 --> 00:16:17,363 So we'll talk a little bit more about data in a little bit. 285 00:16:18,609 --> 00:16:19,442 And then the practices, 286 00:16:19,442 --> 00:16:21,260 so those evidence-based practices 287 00:16:21,260 --> 00:16:22,910 that you're choosing to install 288 00:16:22,910 --> 00:16:24,820 as part of your PBIS framework, 289 00:16:24,820 --> 00:16:28,510 are there to support the student behavior. 290 00:16:28,510 --> 00:16:30,990 So we'll talk about kind of the core components 291 00:16:30,990 --> 00:16:35,330 of PBIS practices, but this is also where things like 292 00:16:35,330 --> 00:16:38,590 responsive classroom or restorative practices 293 00:16:38,590 --> 00:16:41,363 can be embedded as part of PBIS. 294 00:16:42,890 --> 00:16:44,520 And things like responsive classroom 295 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,070 and restorative practices really benefit from those systems 296 00:16:48,070 --> 00:16:53,070 and data pieces of PBIS that might not exist as strongly 297 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,670 for things like responsive classroom 298 00:16:56,670 --> 00:16:58,483 and restorative practices. 299 00:16:59,570 --> 00:17:02,600 So schools that might be implementing 300 00:17:03,500 --> 00:17:06,850 one of those things on their own, without PBIS, 301 00:17:06,850 --> 00:17:09,230 might not be looking as closely at the data 302 00:17:09,230 --> 00:17:12,340 and how those practices are impacting students 303 00:17:12,340 --> 00:17:16,530 and their outcomes, as schools that are implementing 304 00:17:16,530 --> 00:17:18,770 those practices alongside PBIS. 305 00:17:18,770 --> 00:17:22,520 Because they have those systems and data in place 306 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,983 to keep those initiatives or programs going. 307 00:17:27,970 --> 00:17:31,590 When we're thinking about practices to install within PBIS, 308 00:17:31,590 --> 00:17:35,230 we wanna think about what practices can we use 309 00:17:35,230 --> 00:17:38,640 that require the smallest amount of effort, 310 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,250 that are evidence-based, 311 00:17:40,250 --> 00:17:43,950 that are going to have the biggest impact on students. 312 00:17:43,950 --> 00:17:46,770 So, especially this year but always, 313 00:17:46,770 --> 00:17:48,970 schools are extremely busy, 314 00:17:48,970 --> 00:17:51,210 teachers are extremely overstretched. 315 00:17:51,210 --> 00:17:56,210 And so if we were to throw five new initiatives at staff 316 00:17:57,090 --> 00:17:59,481 that are kind of willy-nilly, we don't know too much about 317 00:17:59,481 --> 00:18:02,850 whether they're gonna be successful or not, we, 318 00:18:02,850 --> 00:18:05,690 our staff are gonna be completely burned out. 319 00:18:05,690 --> 00:18:09,260 So we wanna have a process for installing new practices 320 00:18:09,260 --> 00:18:12,890 that really takes into account does this fit our context? 321 00:18:12,890 --> 00:18:14,430 Is it evidence-based? 322 00:18:14,430 --> 00:18:17,943 Is it reasonable to ask staff to do this or not? 323 00:18:19,354 --> 00:18:23,370 And really have a clear process for that, 324 00:18:23,370 --> 00:18:27,070 rather than just kind of picking at random 325 00:18:27,070 --> 00:18:29,870 or picking based on I heard this idea at a conference, 326 00:18:29,870 --> 00:18:31,790 I think we should do it. 327 00:18:31,790 --> 00:18:33,733 Having a process. 328 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,100 So think for a second about a change that you have made 329 00:18:39,100 --> 00:18:42,300 in your personal life, and I'll ask you to share it, 330 00:18:42,300 --> 00:18:44,690 if you feel comfortable, in the chat box. 331 00:18:44,690 --> 00:18:49,330 And think for a minute about whether you had any systems, 332 00:18:49,330 --> 00:18:52,070 data or practices, as part of that change, 333 00:18:52,070 --> 00:18:54,230 that sustained it for you. 334 00:18:54,230 --> 00:18:56,760 And I will give a non-example, 335 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:01,760 which is I should be drinking more water in my life. 336 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,040 And so I knew that's a goal I wanna have. 337 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:10,221 I have a, it's called a motivational water bottle, 338 00:19:10,221 --> 00:19:12,470 motivationalwaterbottle.com. 339 00:19:12,470 --> 00:19:16,160 And it's got like a nice quote on the front 340 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,450 about good vibes. 341 00:19:17,450 --> 00:19:21,600 And then on the other side it has times of day marked out. 342 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,660 So I know like by 10 o'clock 343 00:19:23,660 --> 00:19:25,603 I should have drank this much water. 344 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,690 So that was one step of my drinking water change 345 00:19:30,690 --> 00:19:32,100 that I wanted to make. 346 00:19:32,100 --> 00:19:34,670 At one point I had an app where I was tracking 347 00:19:34,670 --> 00:19:35,960 how much water I was drinking. 348 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,803 So that would be my data. 349 00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:42,040 And I'm completely failing. 350 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,370 I have had this bottle for so long now 351 00:19:44,370 --> 00:19:47,753 that I don't pay any attention to the times on the side. 352 00:19:48,646 --> 00:19:51,690 So right now it's 9:30 or whatever time it is. 353 00:19:51,690 --> 00:19:55,363 I'm still on my 7:00 a.m. timeline. 354 00:19:56,450 --> 00:19:59,090 So something needs to change in my process. 355 00:19:59,090 --> 00:20:01,120 Maybe I'm lacking some systems 356 00:20:02,700 --> 00:20:06,250 and maybe I need to have a reminder on my Fitbit 357 00:20:06,250 --> 00:20:09,283 that's gonna vibrate every time I should be drinking. 358 00:20:10,590 --> 00:20:13,050 But you really can think about the systems, 359 00:20:13,050 --> 00:20:17,170 data, practices piece, for any kind of change. 360 00:20:17,170 --> 00:20:19,050 So we're thinking about it for 361 00:20:19,050 --> 00:20:21,560 school-wide behavioral change, 362 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,130 but the same concepts apply, 363 00:20:24,130 --> 00:20:26,650 regardless of what change you're looking to sustain. 364 00:20:26,650 --> 00:20:28,630 So just think for a second about 365 00:20:28,630 --> 00:20:29,990 any kind of change like that 366 00:20:29,990 --> 00:20:34,200 that you might be trying to make or have made, 367 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:39,200 and whether you've installed any systems or practices 368 00:20:39,820 --> 00:20:41,440 and are you keeping data 369 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,543 on whether that change is showing success. 370 00:20:53,620 --> 00:20:54,883 Oh nice. 371 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,510 Brooke is trying to walk a thousand miles this year. 372 00:20:59,510 --> 00:21:03,130 That is baffling to me, 373 00:21:03,130 --> 00:21:05,203 based on how little I walk right now. 374 00:21:06,450 --> 00:21:08,400 She's got a Facebook group that's motivating, 375 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:09,470 a habit tracker. 376 00:21:09,470 --> 00:21:11,790 She's writing down her daily miles. 377 00:21:11,790 --> 00:21:15,530 Accountability partners and 50 miles so far, wow, 378 00:21:15,530 --> 00:21:17,770 on January 19th. 379 00:21:17,770 --> 00:21:18,773 That's awesome. 380 00:21:19,940 --> 00:21:23,180 Andy's trying to get more sleep alarms 381 00:21:23,180 --> 00:21:26,900 to tell her when to start getting ready, when to be in bed. 382 00:21:26,900 --> 00:21:30,360 Her anecdotal data says her brain is clearer. 383 00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:32,870 More time in her day, even though she's going to bed earlier 384 00:21:32,870 --> 00:21:35,123 'cause she's better utilizing that time. 385 00:21:36,340 --> 00:21:37,470 Awesome. 386 00:21:37,470 --> 00:21:40,040 Yeah, January is probably a good time to ask this question 387 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,520 because, yes we're all very motivated 388 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,650 by goal-setting in January. 389 00:21:44,650 --> 00:21:48,323 We'll see if I get any answers in May. 390 00:21:52,230 --> 00:21:54,400 Yeah, and so you can tell, 391 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,763 in goal-setting and things like that, 392 00:21:57,900 --> 00:21:59,670 these systems, data and practices 393 00:21:59,670 --> 00:22:01,200 are always a piece of that, 394 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,563 even if they're not calling it by these names. 395 00:22:04,884 --> 00:22:08,173 So you'll kind of see now that you've been exposed to this. 396 00:22:09,230 --> 00:22:12,283 It come up in your everyday life as well. 397 00:22:13,660 --> 00:22:16,030 Wow, yeah, Heather lost 23 pounds last year 398 00:22:16,030 --> 00:22:18,650 by tracking her food on the Weight Watchers app 399 00:22:18,650 --> 00:22:21,110 and tracking her walking on her Fitbit. 400 00:22:21,110 --> 00:22:23,170 That's inspiring. 401 00:22:23,170 --> 00:22:24,003 Awesome. 402 00:22:28,650 --> 00:22:30,120 Gained 15 back. 403 00:22:30,120 --> 00:22:33,050 So maybe you've lost track of some of your systems, 404 00:22:33,050 --> 00:22:34,650 data or practices. 405 00:22:34,650 --> 00:22:37,213 Or it's a pandemic and we're excusing ourselves. 406 00:22:38,500 --> 00:22:40,630 Tina's looking to be healthier and more fit 407 00:22:40,630 --> 00:22:43,360 and her data is limited to her daily weight. 408 00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:45,330 Yeah, so that's one of the things, right. 409 00:22:45,330 --> 00:22:46,920 You know we might be in a school 410 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:51,000 where we're only looking at office discipline referrals. 411 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,380 We're trying to change the language 412 00:22:52,380 --> 00:22:54,840 to be behavior observation and data forms, 413 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:55,930 'cause that's really what it is. 414 00:22:55,930 --> 00:22:58,590 We're looking at what behaviors are we seeing. 415 00:22:58,590 --> 00:23:01,530 It doesn't necessarily have to do with the office. 416 00:23:01,530 --> 00:23:04,300 But if we're only looking at behavior data, 417 00:23:04,300 --> 00:23:06,840 we're missing a piece of the story, right? 418 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,790 So if Tina's only tracking her daily weight, 419 00:23:10,790 --> 00:23:13,260 there might be other changes that she would be seeing 420 00:23:13,260 --> 00:23:15,310 if she was looking at other data sources. 421 00:23:16,190 --> 00:23:19,223 So we'll talk about some varied data sources for PBIS. 422 00:23:20,490 --> 00:23:23,820 She's researched and purchased her materials and programs 423 00:23:23,820 --> 00:23:27,340 and struggling about how to begin and be most effective. 424 00:23:27,340 --> 00:23:28,173 Yeah. 425 00:23:28,173 --> 00:23:31,570 So maybe she needs to join Brooke's Facebook group 426 00:23:31,570 --> 00:23:33,203 for her motivation. 427 00:23:34,910 --> 00:23:36,733 That's my challenge as well Tina. 428 00:23:37,980 --> 00:23:39,780 Awesome, thanks so much for sharing. 429 00:23:45,810 --> 00:23:49,120 And like this last piece, so smallest effort evidence-based. 430 00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:52,510 So let's say Tina purchased 10 books 431 00:23:52,510 --> 00:23:55,090 about how to be healthier and more fit. 432 00:23:55,090 --> 00:23:58,530 She's probably not gonna have time to read those 10 books 433 00:23:58,530 --> 00:24:00,700 in order to make the change. 434 00:24:00,700 --> 00:24:03,610 She might just need to get started, right. 435 00:24:03,610 --> 00:24:07,670 So we wanna think about the smallest effort piece, 436 00:24:07,670 --> 00:24:08,883 especially this year. 437 00:24:11,670 --> 00:24:14,120 So I didn't wanna change my graphics, 438 00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:19,120 but this is the new visual for this concept, 439 00:24:19,230 --> 00:24:24,110 which really features outcomes and equity. 440 00:24:24,110 --> 00:24:27,030 So thinking about constantly coming back 441 00:24:27,030 --> 00:24:30,350 to what outcomes are we looking for for students, 442 00:24:30,350 --> 00:24:32,400 for families, for staff. 443 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,680 How are our systems, data and practices getting us 444 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:35,790 to those outcomes? 445 00:24:35,790 --> 00:24:38,223 And keeping equity at the center. 446 00:24:39,407 --> 00:24:42,780 So obviously this year has had a huge focus on equity 447 00:24:42,780 --> 00:24:46,050 for a lot of schools, and thinking about 448 00:24:46,050 --> 00:24:49,340 which of your social and emotional behavioral practices 449 00:24:50,690 --> 00:24:53,080 promote equity or not. 450 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,713 And kind of examining everything through that equity lens. 451 00:24:57,710 --> 00:25:01,160 So we're doing some work at the state level, 452 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:06,160 in terms of thinking about PBIS through an equity lens. 453 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,110 And we know that our schools are as well. 454 00:25:10,110 --> 00:25:12,160 So thinking about whether all students 455 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,430 have equitable access to these practices. 456 00:25:16,430 --> 00:25:21,300 Whether staff are examining their own biases 457 00:25:21,300 --> 00:25:25,373 in terms of kind of reacting to student behavior. 458 00:25:26,410 --> 00:25:29,870 And looking at the systems that are in place 459 00:25:29,870 --> 00:25:34,040 and really analyzing whether there are 460 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,770 disproportionate outcomes for students, 461 00:25:36,770 --> 00:25:39,640 and what that means in terms of needing to change 462 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,483 some of our systems or practices. 463 00:25:46,550 --> 00:25:47,540 So some of you 464 00:25:47,540 --> 00:25:50,180 might be familiar with implementation science. 465 00:25:50,180 --> 00:25:55,180 And this is just a reminder that this is really a process. 466 00:25:55,610 --> 00:25:58,300 So for schools that are just starting out 467 00:25:58,300 --> 00:26:01,480 and are really looking at PBIS, 468 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,790 some time needs to be spent in this exploration process. 469 00:26:05,790 --> 00:26:08,520 So if schools were just to kind of dive in head first 470 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,530 without spending time exploring, assessing readiness, 471 00:26:12,530 --> 00:26:17,530 assessing buy-in, thinking about what staff really need 472 00:26:18,260 --> 00:26:19,993 in order to do this work well, 473 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,343 it likely would not be sustainable. 474 00:26:24,533 --> 00:26:29,533 So these first few steps of exploration, installation, 475 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,770 making sure that staff have professional development 476 00:26:32,770 --> 00:26:35,303 and making sure they have the materials they need. 477 00:26:36,430 --> 00:26:39,110 Starting out your initial implementation 478 00:26:39,110 --> 00:26:41,500 and then getting to full implementation 479 00:26:41,500 --> 00:26:43,150 takes three to five years. 480 00:26:43,150 --> 00:26:46,510 And that it's normal and part of the research 481 00:26:46,510 --> 00:26:51,490 that it takes this long to get to full implementation. 482 00:26:51,490 --> 00:26:53,250 And then beyond that, 483 00:26:53,250 --> 00:26:55,450 we have some of our schools who have been implementing 484 00:26:55,450 --> 00:26:58,440 for eight, nine, 10, 11, 12 years, 485 00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:59,630 that are really to that place 486 00:26:59,630 --> 00:27:02,100 of innovation and sustainability. 487 00:27:02,100 --> 00:27:04,690 So they are giving us great ideas 488 00:27:04,690 --> 00:27:08,683 about how things can work well in schools in this area. 489 00:27:12,810 --> 00:27:17,810 So when thinking about the core features of PBIS 490 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,920 and kind of the process you would take 491 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,590 if you were a new school starting out, 492 00:27:22,590 --> 00:27:26,680 we begin by helping you to craft a common purpose statement 493 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,870 so that everyone knows what your social, emotional, 494 00:27:29,870 --> 00:27:34,320 behavioral kind of vision is for your school 495 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,223 and what the purpose of your PBIS team is. 496 00:27:39,220 --> 00:27:42,690 And then we do lots of work around kind of team norms 497 00:27:42,690 --> 00:27:46,630 and roles, common agendas, 498 00:27:46,630 --> 00:27:50,060 so that your team is running really efficiently 499 00:27:50,060 --> 00:27:53,453 in order to get to these next steps. 500 00:27:55,150 --> 00:27:57,560 The next piece is defining three to five 501 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,820 positively-stated clear behavioral expectations 502 00:28:00,820 --> 00:28:02,920 for your whole school. 503 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,630 So right now you might have some individual teachers 504 00:28:05,630 --> 00:28:07,890 doing this on their own, 505 00:28:07,890 --> 00:28:11,450 coming up with some good expectations potentially, 506 00:28:11,450 --> 00:28:14,750 so that they're thinking about looking for the positive 507 00:28:14,750 --> 00:28:17,940 rather than creating that list of rules in their classroom 508 00:28:17,940 --> 00:28:22,940 that's like no swearing, no gum, no calling out. 509 00:28:23,010 --> 00:28:26,270 So they might be thinking about it on the positive side, 510 00:28:26,270 --> 00:28:29,370 but those expectations might be really different 511 00:28:29,370 --> 00:28:30,880 in different places in the building. 512 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,410 And for, in a traditional year, 513 00:28:33,410 --> 00:28:36,060 when kids are going different places in the building, 514 00:28:36,949 --> 00:28:41,090 can create some feelings of anxiety or confusion 515 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,820 for students between different locations in your building, 516 00:28:45,820 --> 00:28:49,060 and not knowing what to expect from different adults. 517 00:28:49,060 --> 00:28:53,270 So this helps create a common language across the building, 518 00:28:53,270 --> 00:28:57,010 for all staff to be able to refer back to the expectations, 519 00:28:57,010 --> 00:28:59,390 and the students start really referring back 520 00:28:59,390 --> 00:29:02,100 to these expectations as well. 521 00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:05,010 So using the language with their peers 522 00:29:05,010 --> 00:29:07,480 of that didn't make me feel safe, 523 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,603 or I need some help being responsible today. 524 00:29:13,451 --> 00:29:17,110 And just having the expectations is nice, 525 00:29:17,110 --> 00:29:19,240 but if we're not teaching the students 526 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,050 explicitly how to meet those behavioral expectations, 527 00:29:23,050 --> 00:29:25,320 we might not see the success we're looking for. 528 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,230 So, as we know, students have lots of different 529 00:29:29,230 --> 00:29:32,150 prior experiences before coming into school. 530 00:29:32,150 --> 00:29:35,210 And we can't assume that students know 531 00:29:35,210 --> 00:29:37,240 what these expectations look like, 532 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,500 and look like in different areas of the school. 533 00:29:40,500 --> 00:29:44,970 So an expectation like respect 534 00:29:44,970 --> 00:29:47,890 might look very different on the playground, 535 00:29:47,890 --> 00:29:51,410 versus in the bathroom versus in the classroom. 536 00:29:51,410 --> 00:29:54,000 And helping students kind of understand 537 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,600 that different places have different expectations. 538 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,130 So yelling and running is totally fine in the playground. 539 00:30:00,130 --> 00:30:02,030 Once we come back in the building, 540 00:30:02,030 --> 00:30:05,750 we need to have quiet voices in the hallway 541 00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:07,690 and walking feet. 542 00:30:07,690 --> 00:30:11,133 That might be a new concept for some students. 543 00:30:12,857 --> 00:30:14,440 And then we wanna have a system 544 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:15,890 for acknowledging when students 545 00:30:15,890 --> 00:30:18,570 are able to meet those expectations. 546 00:30:18,570 --> 00:30:21,150 So like we were talking about earlier, 547 00:30:21,150 --> 00:30:23,670 if we just have an acknowledgement system 548 00:30:23,670 --> 00:30:26,283 and we haven't taught the behavioral expectations, 549 00:30:28,070 --> 00:30:32,000 we might not see the behaviors we're hoping for 550 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:37,000 and that may play into this area of equity or inequity. 551 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,630 So if we are only acknowledging the students 552 00:30:40,630 --> 00:30:43,340 who are able to meet the behavioral expectations 553 00:30:43,340 --> 00:30:45,550 without being taught them, 554 00:30:45,550 --> 00:30:50,550 we might be targeting a group of students that has a dis, 555 00:30:55,450 --> 00:31:00,110 oh boy, not disproportionate, disadvantage, 556 00:31:00,110 --> 00:31:02,240 coming from a disadvantaged place 557 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:07,240 and kind of working to increase that gap, 558 00:31:07,950 --> 00:31:10,620 which is not what we're looking to do. 559 00:31:10,620 --> 00:31:14,150 So that piece around teaching the expectations explicitly 560 00:31:14,150 --> 00:31:17,120 sometimes gets lost, but is really an area 561 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,660 that we need to spend a lot of time. 562 00:31:19,660 --> 00:31:22,180 And many schools are good about doing that, 563 00:31:22,180 --> 00:31:26,020 maybe the first week or two of the year, 564 00:31:26,020 --> 00:31:27,190 but this is really something 565 00:31:27,190 --> 00:31:29,023 that needs to be looped back to. 566 00:31:30,169 --> 00:31:33,510 So I previously worked at Dothan Brook School 567 00:31:33,510 --> 00:31:35,940 and White River Junction, 568 00:31:35,940 --> 00:31:40,520 and every month we had a focus behavior based on our data. 569 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,840 So our universal team would look at our school-wide data, 570 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,240 examine either a location or a type of behavior 571 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,590 that really could use some additional teaching, 572 00:31:52,145 --> 00:31:54,448 and made that our focus for the month. 573 00:31:54,448 --> 00:31:57,073 So we developed a video for all staff to show, 574 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,700 so that the staff understood what the expectation was. 575 00:32:00,700 --> 00:32:05,410 So that helps kind of make it consistent across the staff. 576 00:32:05,410 --> 00:32:07,990 But also helped reteach for the students 577 00:32:07,990 --> 00:32:10,490 about what that expectation was, 578 00:32:10,490 --> 00:32:12,690 and what it looked like in different places. 579 00:32:14,410 --> 00:32:16,960 We also know that despite all of these 580 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,510 good proactive strategies, 581 00:32:18,510 --> 00:32:22,954 we are still going to have problem behaviors occur. 582 00:32:22,954 --> 00:32:27,050 And we want our adults in the building to have systems 583 00:32:27,050 --> 00:32:30,230 for responding to those problem behaviors 584 00:32:30,230 --> 00:32:33,800 in a way that's not going to escalate the behavior. 585 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,610 In a way that's going to be restorative 586 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,890 and coming from a lens of teaching. 587 00:32:39,890 --> 00:32:44,170 So remembering that when a student makes a math mistake, 588 00:32:44,170 --> 00:32:47,200 we're not punishing them for making that mistake. 589 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,285 We are teaching and reteaching them 590 00:32:49,285 --> 00:32:54,220 how to complete that math problem correctly. 591 00:32:54,220 --> 00:32:57,680 But when we move into the behavior realm our often, 592 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,100 our first approach is to punish 593 00:33:00,100 --> 00:33:03,180 when students aren't able to meet the expectations. 594 00:33:03,180 --> 00:33:08,180 So kind of reformatting our staff's brains 595 00:33:08,230 --> 00:33:11,353 to be always coming from that teaching approach. 596 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,940 And then the last component 597 00:33:14,940 --> 00:33:17,600 are those data management systems. 598 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,420 So kind of doing an inventory of 599 00:33:20,420 --> 00:33:22,530 what data systems do you have available to you 600 00:33:22,530 --> 00:33:26,550 in your building, and whether they're being utilized. 601 00:33:26,550 --> 00:33:31,000 So you might have something like a nurse visits log 602 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,460 that the data could be de-identified for, 603 00:33:34,460 --> 00:33:36,280 and you might see, wow, 604 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:41,070 our fourth graders are coming to the nurse 605 00:33:41,070 --> 00:33:43,820 with complaints of stomach aches. 606 00:33:43,820 --> 00:33:46,540 The nurse is deeming that they're not actually sick. 607 00:33:46,540 --> 00:33:49,620 Obviously this year's a little bit different. 608 00:33:49,620 --> 00:33:51,370 But let's say the nurse is deeming 609 00:33:51,370 --> 00:33:52,980 that they're not actually sick. 610 00:33:52,980 --> 00:33:55,290 Maybe there's some feelings of anxiety 611 00:33:55,290 --> 00:33:56,620 within those fourth graders 612 00:33:56,620 --> 00:33:59,983 that's causing them to say they have a stomach ache. 613 00:34:01,525 --> 00:34:04,670 So, but previously maybe that nurse visit data 614 00:34:04,670 --> 00:34:07,070 wasn't really used for anything. 615 00:34:07,070 --> 00:34:08,710 Same with attendance data. 616 00:34:08,710 --> 00:34:12,803 We can do some targeted interventions around attendance. 617 00:34:13,860 --> 00:34:16,360 In this new virtual world 618 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,160 maybe you're collecting engagement data 619 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,580 about how students are accessing 620 00:34:21,580 --> 00:34:23,580 some of the online platforms, 621 00:34:23,580 --> 00:34:25,970 but if you're not doing anything with that data 622 00:34:26,970 --> 00:34:28,530 you're probably not gonna see any changes 623 00:34:28,530 --> 00:34:30,323 in increased engagement. 624 00:34:31,286 --> 00:34:33,080 So thinking about what data sources 625 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,840 you have available to you. 626 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,360 And then we have a process 627 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,400 called team initiated problem solving, or TIPS, 628 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,840 which leads teams through a process 629 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,610 of looking at their data, 630 00:34:44,610 --> 00:34:47,590 developing a precise problem statement, 631 00:34:47,590 --> 00:34:51,650 and developing some solutions and trying them out. 632 00:34:51,650 --> 00:34:53,593 Developing an action plan around them. 633 00:34:55,540 --> 00:34:57,950 So thinking about these elements, 634 00:34:57,950 --> 00:35:01,520 if you're not already implementing PBIS school, 635 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,300 you likely already have some of these elements in place. 636 00:35:05,300 --> 00:35:07,010 So looking through these, 637 00:35:07,010 --> 00:35:10,010 do you do any of these in your school already? 638 00:35:10,010 --> 00:35:11,970 And if so, which ones. 639 00:35:11,970 --> 00:35:15,383 And feel free to share out in the chat box. 640 00:35:18,490 --> 00:35:20,450 And if you are implementing PBIS school, 641 00:35:20,450 --> 00:35:22,163 you could share what you're doing too. 642 00:35:28,670 --> 00:35:30,280 But it's just kind of nice for schools 643 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,650 who are not already implementing, 644 00:35:32,650 --> 00:35:36,400 for staff to realize like, okay, we are doing some of this. 645 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,290 This kind of just formalizes it 646 00:35:38,290 --> 00:35:40,490 and makes it consistent across the building. 647 00:36:17,060 --> 00:36:18,750 Yeah, so Heather's at Derby. 648 00:36:18,750 --> 00:36:21,620 So they have, they're implementing PBIS. 649 00:36:21,620 --> 00:36:22,700 They have Club Club. 650 00:36:22,700 --> 00:36:25,170 They have Check-In Check-Out forms for students 651 00:36:25,170 --> 00:36:26,780 to monitor their own behavior, 652 00:36:26,780 --> 00:36:29,240 with the help of teachers and staff. 653 00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:32,150 Martha has lots of systems for tracking data 654 00:36:32,150 --> 00:36:35,193 but they're not always shared in a consistent way. 655 00:36:37,046 --> 00:36:40,190 And Sherry says they have behavioral expectations 656 00:36:40,190 --> 00:36:41,377 at the middle school. 657 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,470 Haley has three main focuses, 658 00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:49,080 perseverance, tolerance and accountability. 659 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,420 And they have lessons and posters around the school 660 00:36:51,420 --> 00:36:53,633 with examples of these in a matrix. 661 00:36:54,500 --> 00:36:57,940 And then Brooke, they have a PBS matrix 662 00:36:57,940 --> 00:37:00,410 they created this summer at the summer institute. 663 00:37:00,410 --> 00:37:04,840 Clear expectations and a behavioral referrals sheet 664 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,320 to keep track of the behaviors, 665 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,850 acknowledge when behaviors are not met, 666 00:37:08,850 --> 00:37:10,433 by giving them reminders. 667 00:37:12,357 --> 00:37:14,520 And Heather's using SWIS. 668 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,573 Work group Wednesday to look at data. 669 00:37:17,650 --> 00:37:19,420 And Brooke's school has a focus 670 00:37:19,420 --> 00:37:22,270 on being safe, respectful and kind. 671 00:37:22,270 --> 00:37:24,530 And Haley's just starting to utilize SWIS. 672 00:37:24,530 --> 00:37:25,404 Yes. 673 00:37:25,404 --> 00:37:26,237 So for those of you who don't know SWIS, 674 00:37:26,237 --> 00:37:28,640 it's school-wide information system. 675 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,290 And it's a really simple way 676 00:37:30,290 --> 00:37:33,880 for keeping your behavioral data. 677 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,940 And it gives you really great graphs 678 00:37:36,940 --> 00:37:39,640 to be able to look at your data school-wide 679 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,453 and also be able to look at on an individual student basis. 680 00:37:46,220 --> 00:37:49,110 Yeah, Kirsten's using SWIS and teacher data. 681 00:37:49,110 --> 00:37:51,110 Respect yourself, others and property. 682 00:37:51,110 --> 00:37:52,573 School-wide recognition. 683 00:37:54,018 --> 00:37:56,100 And no Brooke, you don't have to be a PBIS school 684 00:37:56,100 --> 00:37:56,933 to have SWIS. 685 00:37:56,933 --> 00:37:58,300 So we have lots of schools in Vermont 686 00:37:58,300 --> 00:38:02,133 that are accessing SWIS without being official PBIS schools. 687 00:38:03,535 --> 00:38:05,460 They're probably missing some of the pieces 688 00:38:05,460 --> 00:38:06,910 in terms of how to use the data, 689 00:38:06,910 --> 00:38:09,850 but we do have recorded webinars and things like that 690 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,643 to be able to learn how to use it most effectively. 691 00:38:16,490 --> 00:38:17,323 Okay. 692 00:38:19,340 --> 00:38:21,000 So Heather was mentioning earlier 693 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,220 that she has a new role at Derby, 694 00:38:24,220 --> 00:38:26,143 which now I'm forgetting the title of. 695 00:38:27,780 --> 00:38:29,323 Restorative coordinator? 696 00:38:31,130 --> 00:38:33,570 - Well, the title has changed over the year, 697 00:38:33,570 --> 00:38:37,730 but I think we've settled on restorative support teacher. 698 00:38:37,730 --> 00:38:38,630 - Okay. 699 00:38:38,630 --> 00:38:40,160 - Even though I don't have a class, 700 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,850 I just am called to different classrooms as needed. 701 00:38:44,850 --> 00:38:45,683 - Okay. 702 00:38:47,270 --> 00:38:49,470 So many schools in Vermont 703 00:38:49,470 --> 00:38:52,283 are moving towards a restorative approach, 704 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,890 and we have been working really hard to think about 705 00:38:57,890 --> 00:39:00,040 how restorative practices and approaches 706 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,193 fit within our PBIS framework. 707 00:39:03,570 --> 00:39:06,320 And so, right from the beginning, 708 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,470 as schools are being trained in universal now, 709 00:39:09,470 --> 00:39:13,530 we're kind of infusing these restorative principles 710 00:39:13,530 --> 00:39:17,520 of voluntary participation, exploring relationships, 711 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:22,250 meaningful engagement and participatory decision-making, 712 00:39:22,250 --> 00:39:23,950 right into our universal training. 713 00:39:23,950 --> 00:39:26,500 So even if you're not technically doing 714 00:39:26,500 --> 00:39:29,290 restorative practices in your school, 715 00:39:29,290 --> 00:39:31,850 we still feel that these restorative principles 716 00:39:31,850 --> 00:39:34,063 bring a lot to the PBIS work. 717 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,850 Being trained then in restorative practices 718 00:39:38,850 --> 00:39:41,043 is kind of beyond that, 719 00:39:42,180 --> 00:39:44,560 but can really enhance your PBIS framework 720 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:49,030 so that you have some consistent ways of building community 721 00:39:49,030 --> 00:39:50,060 across your building, 722 00:39:50,060 --> 00:39:53,860 in terms of tier one restorative practices. 723 00:39:53,860 --> 00:39:58,860 And are giving staff some good tools and scripts 724 00:39:58,900 --> 00:40:01,270 and language for responding, 725 00:40:01,270 --> 00:40:05,010 when kind of some low-level problem behaviors happen. 726 00:40:05,010 --> 00:40:06,840 And then having processes in place 727 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,990 for how students re-enter classrooms, 728 00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:13,120 re-enter the building if they were to be suspended. 729 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:14,810 So like PBIS, 730 00:40:14,810 --> 00:40:19,270 restorative practices also has different practices 731 00:40:19,270 --> 00:40:21,550 at tier one, tier two and tier three, 732 00:40:21,550 --> 00:40:23,553 depending on the needs of your students. 733 00:40:26,610 --> 00:40:29,160 And so when we work with PBIS schools 734 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,450 to think about their practices, we're hoping to have them 735 00:40:32,450 --> 00:40:35,120 kind of shift along this continuum. 736 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:40,120 The far side is more of that, you might say, 737 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,680 traditional behavioral discipline system 738 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,180 where we are excluding students when they misbehave. 739 00:40:49,180 --> 00:40:53,060 Our systems are very adult-centered, punitive, 740 00:40:53,060 --> 00:40:55,003 thinking about compliance, 741 00:40:55,970 --> 00:41:00,920 and more focused on blaming when things go wrong, 742 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,543 rather than working to repair that harm. 743 00:41:04,625 --> 00:41:07,080 And the piece we're really trying to think about is 744 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,320 how can we do with our students, 745 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,750 rather than just to or for. 746 00:41:12,750 --> 00:41:16,800 So in the past, much of the PBIS work 747 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,080 really just happened at the adult level 748 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,760 and was more about adults doing to students 749 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,050 or for students. 750 00:41:24,050 --> 00:41:28,490 And so we are hoping to make a shift, 751 00:41:28,490 --> 00:41:33,020 first for PBIS leadership teams from the very beginning, 752 00:41:33,020 --> 00:41:34,180 to be thinking about 753 00:41:34,180 --> 00:41:36,410 how are we doing this work with students? 754 00:41:36,410 --> 00:41:39,893 How are we engaging with them in this work? 755 00:41:41,390 --> 00:41:43,350 So that they're doing this right alongside us, 756 00:41:43,350 --> 00:41:46,693 rather than us as the adults doing it to them. 757 00:41:47,590 --> 00:41:51,280 So we're kind of having schools examine their practices 758 00:41:52,310 --> 00:41:54,100 with this continuum in mind, 759 00:41:54,100 --> 00:41:59,100 and how can we push to become a more restorative school. 760 00:42:01,510 --> 00:42:03,950 So when thinking about PBIS from the beginning 761 00:42:03,950 --> 00:42:05,000 with this lens, 762 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,770 rather than the adults setting the expectations, 763 00:42:08,770 --> 00:42:11,340 teaching the expectations, and developing the procedures 764 00:42:11,340 --> 00:42:15,530 for acknowledging when those behaviors are positive, 765 00:42:15,530 --> 00:42:18,900 we wanna think about how can our whole school community 766 00:42:18,900 --> 00:42:21,580 build our agreements together. 767 00:42:21,580 --> 00:42:26,580 And rather than these being rules, these being agreements 768 00:42:27,110 --> 00:42:30,823 for how we wanna exist in this space called school together. 769 00:42:32,450 --> 00:42:35,000 What does that look like in action? 770 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,370 So how do you, what do other students do 771 00:42:38,370 --> 00:42:43,370 in order for you to feel respected as another student? 772 00:42:43,410 --> 00:42:47,150 And how can we think about, rather than just 773 00:42:47,150 --> 00:42:50,423 teachers delivering these behavioral lessons, 774 00:42:51,470 --> 00:42:55,960 that we think I have taught them how to be respectful. 775 00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,100 How can we make sure that they have really learned them? 776 00:43:00,100 --> 00:43:03,270 So thinking, coming from a learning-centered perspective 777 00:43:03,270 --> 00:43:05,793 rather than a teaching-centered perspective. 778 00:43:07,150 --> 00:43:10,370 So, if you're a school that's exploring PBIS, 779 00:43:10,370 --> 00:43:13,940 we have a new module from last year 780 00:43:13,940 --> 00:43:16,500 that is around this process 781 00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:18,790 of developing a community approach 782 00:43:18,790 --> 00:43:21,030 to developing your expectations. 783 00:43:21,030 --> 00:43:24,020 If you're a school that's already implementing PBIS, 784 00:43:24,020 --> 00:43:26,370 you might be in a place where you're looking at 785 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,150 revamping your expectations 786 00:43:29,150 --> 00:43:31,720 or looking at this process again. 787 00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:33,450 But if you're not, if you know, okay, 788 00:43:33,450 --> 00:43:36,390 our expectations are gonna stay, respect yourself, 789 00:43:36,390 --> 00:43:37,950 respect others, respect property, 790 00:43:37,950 --> 00:43:39,950 or whatever that one that was mentioned, 791 00:43:41,050 --> 00:43:42,840 how can you do the second step? 792 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,960 So how can you engage the students 793 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,730 in what these agreements mean in action? 794 00:43:47,730 --> 00:43:51,940 So rather than just posting your matrix up on the wall, 795 00:43:51,940 --> 00:43:55,470 how can your students be a part of determining 796 00:43:55,470 --> 00:43:58,510 what those expectations look like in your building? 797 00:43:58,510 --> 00:43:59,813 And teaching them. 798 00:44:02,620 --> 00:44:05,290 So when thinking about COVID, 799 00:44:05,290 --> 00:44:07,780 this is what a behavioral matrix looks like. 800 00:44:07,780 --> 00:44:10,000 So you can see this school's expectations 801 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,193 were respect, responsibility and safety. 802 00:44:13,270 --> 00:44:16,730 And like in the past, they have locations like hallway, 803 00:44:16,730 --> 00:44:20,113 classroom, bus, places like that. 804 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:25,310 But they also have expectations for online groups, 805 00:44:25,310 --> 00:44:27,690 for online independent work, 806 00:44:27,690 --> 00:44:30,300 so that students really know what's expected of them 807 00:44:30,300 --> 00:44:33,700 in each of these locations, especially when those locations 808 00:44:33,700 --> 00:44:36,213 were brand new to them last March. 809 00:44:37,213 --> 00:44:40,890 And brand new to them again in September with a new teacher. 810 00:44:40,890 --> 00:44:43,230 And the expectations have changed 811 00:44:43,230 --> 00:44:45,970 within the physical environment as well. 812 00:44:45,970 --> 00:44:48,220 So you can see a lot of maintaining 813 00:44:48,220 --> 00:44:52,160 your personal space bubble, wearing a mask, 814 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,564 following one way direction arrows. 815 00:44:54,564 --> 00:44:57,653 So for schools that already had PBIS up and running, 816 00:44:58,610 --> 00:45:02,900 before this year, many of them just kinda saw 817 00:45:02,900 --> 00:45:07,130 this natural shift for how to use PBIS, 818 00:45:07,130 --> 00:45:10,620 to help students learn these new expectations. 819 00:45:10,620 --> 00:45:13,360 And to have teachers have a way 820 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,460 of teaching the expectations 821 00:45:15,460 --> 00:45:17,120 and acknowledging when students 822 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,610 were meeting those expectations. 823 00:45:18,610 --> 00:45:21,750 So it kind of helps also draw the adult's attention 824 00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:24,360 back to these particular expectations 825 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,053 that have been identified as the most important. 826 00:45:30,780 --> 00:45:33,650 Another kind of new piece from this year, 827 00:45:33,650 --> 00:45:36,820 from the National PBIS TA Center, 828 00:45:36,820 --> 00:45:40,283 is this kind of focus back on the basics. 829 00:45:41,367 --> 00:45:44,510 So even for schools that were already implementing PBIS 830 00:45:44,510 --> 00:45:48,460 before this year, was obviously challenging. 831 00:45:48,460 --> 00:45:51,410 And so this visual kind of helped bring us back 832 00:45:51,410 --> 00:45:54,220 to ground us. 833 00:45:54,220 --> 00:45:56,360 We wanna be creating positive, predictable 834 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,340 and safe learning environments for our students, 835 00:45:58,340 --> 00:46:00,920 regardless of what those environments look like, 836 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,150 so that we can see social, emotional, behavioral 837 00:46:03,150 --> 00:46:05,140 and academic growth. 838 00:46:05,140 --> 00:46:06,920 How are we gonna get there this year 839 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,690 when things are so crazy? 840 00:46:08,690 --> 00:46:12,120 So they kind of boiled it down to these five components. 841 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,483 So connecting with our students. 842 00:46:16,030 --> 00:46:18,710 Doing things like positive greetings at the door 843 00:46:18,710 --> 00:46:20,760 or positive greetings upon log-ins, 844 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,970 so that each student is being recognized 845 00:46:23,970 --> 00:46:25,560 and acknowledged as a person, 846 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,853 before instruction starts happening. 847 00:46:29,250 --> 00:46:30,140 Screening. 848 00:46:30,140 --> 00:46:34,160 So how do we figure out which students need more right now, 849 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,550 when some of our traditional screening methods 850 00:46:36,550 --> 00:46:39,480 might not be possible? 851 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,470 So things like informal screeners. 852 00:46:41,470 --> 00:46:44,070 So some of our schools are using apps 853 00:46:44,070 --> 00:46:46,170 where students are checking in every morning 854 00:46:46,170 --> 00:46:49,080 to let them know how they're doing. 855 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:50,200 Do they need to check in 856 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,223 with an adult that day about something? 857 00:46:54,033 --> 00:46:55,440 And thinking about, 858 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,120 you're doing your health screening already. 859 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,300 Could there also be a question around 860 00:47:01,644 --> 00:47:03,860 how is your mental health today, 861 00:47:03,860 --> 00:47:05,600 in a way that's asking that question, 862 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,410 in a way that's developmentally appropriate 863 00:47:07,410 --> 00:47:09,060 for your students. 864 00:47:09,060 --> 00:47:10,880 And then really amping up 865 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:15,713 what we're doing to support our students and to teach, 866 00:47:17,110 --> 00:47:20,890 like I was mentioning before, thinking about our matrix 867 00:47:20,890 --> 00:47:23,380 and what social, emotional, behavioral skills 868 00:47:23,380 --> 00:47:26,313 do our students need this year in particular. 869 00:47:27,175 --> 00:47:30,270 So thinking about many of your schools 870 00:47:30,270 --> 00:47:33,590 have shifted back and forth between in-person and remote. 871 00:47:33,590 --> 00:47:35,240 What skills do students need 872 00:47:35,240 --> 00:47:37,190 in order to be able to make that shift 873 00:47:37,190 --> 00:47:41,060 and have more success at home than they may have last year, 874 00:47:41,060 --> 00:47:42,433 without that support? 875 00:47:43,854 --> 00:47:47,630 And thinking really particularly about 876 00:47:47,630 --> 00:47:50,870 what are those key skills that they're going to need 877 00:47:50,870 --> 00:47:52,413 in this shifting environment. 878 00:47:53,930 --> 00:47:58,350 And then monitoring our success or challenges. 879 00:47:58,350 --> 00:48:00,523 So coming back to that data piece. 880 00:48:01,483 --> 00:48:05,450 So this visual kind of helped us distill down 881 00:48:05,450 --> 00:48:07,910 what are really the key features that, 882 00:48:07,910 --> 00:48:12,910 in this time of stress, can kind of ground us in the work. 883 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,730 So the last piece I wanna share, 884 00:48:18,730 --> 00:48:22,073 just before moving into kind of the logistics pieces. 885 00:48:23,210 --> 00:48:28,090 If you're a school that is exploring PBIS implementation, 886 00:48:28,090 --> 00:48:31,530 it really helps to start with your staff and faculty 887 00:48:31,530 --> 00:48:35,790 thinking about why would we make this shift. 888 00:48:35,790 --> 00:48:39,660 So what are our current behavioral needs at our school? 889 00:48:39,660 --> 00:48:41,840 What is our data showing us? 890 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,020 What are staff and students and families 891 00:48:44,020 --> 00:48:45,850 really worried about? 892 00:48:45,850 --> 00:48:48,330 What are their burning concerns? 893 00:48:48,330 --> 00:48:51,060 What does the research say about 894 00:48:51,060 --> 00:48:53,253 positive school environments? 895 00:48:54,102 --> 00:48:55,700 And what would be the consequences 896 00:48:55,700 --> 00:48:58,880 of just keeping doing what we've already been doing? 897 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,810 So thinking about these as a team. 898 00:49:01,810 --> 00:49:04,690 Bringing these questions back to your staff. 899 00:49:04,690 --> 00:49:07,031 Rather than just saying 900 00:49:07,031 --> 00:49:09,820 the administrators decided that we are gonna do 901 00:49:09,820 --> 00:49:12,740 PBIS next year, so here's our steps. 902 00:49:12,740 --> 00:49:16,140 Really coming to this question of why, 903 00:49:16,140 --> 00:49:18,610 and what are we concerned about. 904 00:49:18,610 --> 00:49:22,900 And how might we make some progress 905 00:49:22,900 --> 00:49:25,830 in alleviating some of those concerns? 906 00:49:25,830 --> 00:49:29,780 So Martha kind of mentioned, she keeps coming back to, 907 00:49:29,780 --> 00:49:33,970 a burning concern is coming up and suggesting like, oh wow, 908 00:49:33,970 --> 00:49:36,130 like if we had a PBIS framework in place 909 00:49:36,130 --> 00:49:39,730 that could help address this concern of attendance, 910 00:49:39,730 --> 00:49:41,053 or whatever it might be. 911 00:49:42,653 --> 00:49:44,930 So rather than kind of coming from this 912 00:49:44,930 --> 00:49:47,220 top down approach of oh, well, 913 00:49:47,220 --> 00:49:49,410 all the other schools in our district are PBIS schools. 914 00:49:49,410 --> 00:49:51,530 We've gotta become a PBIS school. 915 00:49:51,530 --> 00:49:55,000 Thinking about what is really on people's minds right now 916 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:59,053 and how might PBIS help alleviate some of that 917 00:49:59,053 --> 00:50:01,210 and make their lives easier. 918 00:50:01,210 --> 00:50:03,560 Because taking on something new this year 919 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,540 sounds really overwhelming and terrible, 920 00:50:06,540 --> 00:50:09,563 unless it's going to make their lives easier. 921 00:50:11,690 --> 00:50:13,110 So I'll pause now 922 00:50:13,110 --> 00:50:17,033 for any questions or comments on that first piece. 923 00:50:17,870 --> 00:50:19,283 Oh, this is Annie's school. 924 00:50:24,980 --> 00:50:27,580 - [Woman] How do you suggest we really do that, Amy? 925 00:50:29,740 --> 00:50:33,293 I just texted Martha and I kinda said like how do we, 926 00:50:34,210 --> 00:50:35,830 even kinda have conversations 927 00:50:35,830 --> 00:50:37,330 with some of the elementary teachers 928 00:50:37,330 --> 00:50:38,220 and just sort of feel, 929 00:50:38,220 --> 00:50:40,220 'cause some of them have done some of this in the past. 930 00:50:40,220 --> 00:50:41,750 Like what do they feel their needs are, 931 00:50:41,750 --> 00:50:45,070 like what's their pulse on all this? 932 00:50:45,070 --> 00:50:47,040 Are they eager, does it feel like more work? 933 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:47,980 Do they not believe in it? 934 00:50:47,980 --> 00:50:50,280 Do they need to have some education around it? 935 00:50:51,610 --> 00:50:53,650 Jump in Martha, you know what I mean. 936 00:50:53,650 --> 00:50:54,530 How do we? 937 00:50:54,530 --> 00:50:58,680 - I was gonna say what I was thinking is that 938 00:51:00,990 --> 00:51:03,040 how do we approach this when people, 939 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,610 some people have preconceived notions of what PBIS is 940 00:51:06,610 --> 00:51:09,410 and maybe it worked or didn't work in the past. 941 00:51:09,410 --> 00:51:14,330 I think actually overall, much of it did work 942 00:51:14,330 --> 00:51:17,070 but there's sort of an idea that PBIS, 943 00:51:17,070 --> 00:51:20,053 it's not a philosophy or framework, it's a system. 944 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,330 So just sort of trying to figure out 945 00:51:23,330 --> 00:51:27,960 how to manage that. 946 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,910 And I like the idea of looking at the why 947 00:51:31,910 --> 00:51:34,303 and why we would make this shift and. 948 00:51:35,610 --> 00:51:38,304 - [Woman] The thing's right here actually. 949 00:51:38,304 --> 00:51:40,810 - But that is actually, that's a big concern. 950 00:51:40,810 --> 00:51:42,380 Is how to get buy-in. 951 00:51:42,380 --> 00:51:44,370 - [Woman] How are you doing, do you do that informally? 952 00:51:44,370 --> 00:51:46,160 Do you do that like, you know what I mean, 953 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,073 with some kind of Google doc? 954 00:51:49,180 --> 00:51:50,680 Or both? 955 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,200 Like how do you? 956 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:53,460 - Yeah. 957 00:51:53,460 --> 00:51:58,460 So we also have, I believe it was an in-person training, 958 00:51:59,260 --> 00:52:01,510 so it would have been before March 2020, 959 00:52:01,510 --> 00:52:05,930 so maybe January 2020, coordinator's training. 960 00:52:05,930 --> 00:52:07,720 We developed this tool 961 00:52:08,650 --> 00:52:12,320 that was around resistance and buy-in, 962 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:17,320 and it kind of laid out the possible reasons for resistance 963 00:52:18,410 --> 00:52:20,700 in any kind of initiative or change, 964 00:52:20,700 --> 00:52:23,070 not directly tied to PBIS. 965 00:52:23,070 --> 00:52:25,440 But it was just those things you were mentioning. 966 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,230 Like is it an issue of lacking knowledge? 967 00:52:29,230 --> 00:52:32,373 Is it an issue of lacking time and energy? 968 00:52:33,830 --> 00:52:36,103 What are the possible barriers? 969 00:52:37,179 --> 00:52:41,000 And then targeting your responses 970 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,780 to those particular barriers. 971 00:52:44,780 --> 00:52:47,530 So maybe it's, on a typical year 972 00:52:47,530 --> 00:52:50,110 maybe it's not that the teachers don't feel like 973 00:52:50,110 --> 00:52:51,620 they have the time and energy for it. 974 00:52:51,620 --> 00:52:54,700 Maybe it's that they inherently don't believe 975 00:52:54,700 --> 00:52:57,270 that kids should be, 976 00:52:57,270 --> 00:52:59,630 we frequently will hear like kids shouldn't be rewarded 977 00:52:59,630 --> 00:53:01,963 for what they're expected to be doing. 978 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,590 And the piece around that is like, 979 00:53:06,590 --> 00:53:08,390 okay, well how's that going for you? 980 00:53:09,598 --> 00:53:11,260 - How's that working out? - Do you have ways 981 00:53:11,260 --> 00:53:13,380 for letting students know 982 00:53:14,490 --> 00:53:18,470 when they're showing positive behaviors? 983 00:53:18,470 --> 00:53:19,700 Because we'll talk, 984 00:53:19,700 --> 00:53:22,010 or I can't remember if we're gonna talk about this or not, 985 00:53:22,010 --> 00:53:26,220 but the acknowledgement system is really there, 986 00:53:26,220 --> 00:53:29,820 in part, for the adults to be remembering 987 00:53:29,820 --> 00:53:33,310 to shift their focus toward the positive behaviors. 988 00:53:33,310 --> 00:53:37,370 So it's not so much about the kid getting the ticket 989 00:53:37,370 --> 00:53:41,170 or the fuzzy thing or whatever it is. 990 00:53:41,170 --> 00:53:43,210 It's more about the adults 991 00:53:43,210 --> 00:53:45,560 looking for those positive behaviors 992 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,820 and acknowledging them out loud, 993 00:53:47,820 --> 00:53:51,180 so that the kids know when they've met those expectations 994 00:53:52,460 --> 00:53:54,940 and what the teachers are looking for. 995 00:53:54,940 --> 00:53:58,800 It also helps the teachers to identify like wow, 996 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,020 I actually have a lot of expectations for my students 997 00:54:02,020 --> 00:54:06,250 that have kind of gone unannounced. 998 00:54:06,250 --> 00:54:11,250 So we have an example from a middle school, 999 00:54:11,750 --> 00:54:14,910 where the teacher, when she went through that process 1000 00:54:14,910 --> 00:54:19,080 of developing her classroom matrix, realized like wow, 1001 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,360 just within my morning routine 1002 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,550 I have like 10 expectations in my mind 1003 00:54:25,550 --> 00:54:27,290 of what students are supposed to be doing 1004 00:54:27,290 --> 00:54:29,640 when they walk in the door of my classroom, 1005 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,050 that I haven't actually taught them. 1006 00:54:32,050 --> 00:54:35,143 And so when they're not doing them I'm really irritated. 1007 00:54:36,210 --> 00:54:39,040 But how would they know that I was expecting them 1008 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,490 to do that if I haven't taught them how to do it? 1009 00:54:42,370 --> 00:54:45,840 So I think for this work, it's kind of entering 1010 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:50,340 where the staff are most irritated, 1011 00:54:50,340 --> 00:54:54,770 and showing how you can make their lives easier 1012 00:54:54,770 --> 00:54:56,450 by putting in some work upfront, 1013 00:54:56,450 --> 00:54:58,480 because it is work upfront, right? 1014 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,470 If you're just waiting for the behaviors to happen 1015 00:55:00,470 --> 00:55:03,970 and then reacting to them, you haven't had to do anything, 1016 00:55:03,970 --> 00:55:07,443 and now you're spending your time reacting to the problem. 1017 00:55:08,580 --> 00:55:12,000 But pushing that to the proactive takes time 1018 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,030 but is saving you time in the end 1019 00:55:15,030 --> 00:55:17,450 from responding to that problem behavior, 1020 00:55:17,450 --> 00:55:20,130 and saving your sanity. 1021 00:55:20,130 --> 00:55:23,940 So for schools that have experienced PBIS working well, 1022 00:55:23,940 --> 00:55:27,503 they are more likely to stay. 1023 00:55:28,362 --> 00:55:30,393 So teacher turnover is lower. 1024 00:55:31,494 --> 00:55:36,494 And they're more likely to report enjoyment with their job, 1025 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:39,860 because they're spending their time 1026 00:55:39,860 --> 00:55:41,040 looking for the positive, 1027 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,390 rather than letting all of their energy be drained 1028 00:55:43,390 --> 00:55:45,950 by students who are exhibiting negative 1029 00:55:45,950 --> 00:55:47,273 or problem behaviors. 1030 00:55:49,140 --> 00:55:51,820 - [Woman] That's interesting, that part, Amy, I think. 1031 00:55:51,820 --> 00:55:54,620 Also, I don't know how else to sort of say this, 1032 00:55:54,620 --> 00:55:58,350 but one thing, being new here in this building, 1033 00:55:58,350 --> 00:56:03,320 there's definitely, we have a lot of resources. 1034 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,840 We're kind of, we have a behaviorist at every, 1035 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,060 I mean I've never seen anything like this in a school before 1036 00:56:08,060 --> 00:56:09,040 but maybe some of you have. 1037 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,430 But we have a behaviorist at every grade level. 1038 00:56:11,430 --> 00:56:15,080 So there is kind of this piece of people being available 1039 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,660 to kind of come in and remove kids a lot. 1040 00:56:17,660 --> 00:56:20,310 The behaviorist, of course they share their frustrations 1041 00:56:20,310 --> 00:56:22,270 'cause they believe in all this 1042 00:56:22,270 --> 00:56:25,230 and they wanna see a lot more of those tier one things done 1043 00:56:25,230 --> 00:56:26,270 and stuff in classrooms, 1044 00:56:26,270 --> 00:56:29,800 before kids kinda have to leave to regroup. 1045 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,840 But so it's sorta like, when Martha and I came here 1046 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,210 we were shown a binder about five inches thick 1047 00:56:35,210 --> 00:56:36,450 of restraints that had been done. 1048 00:56:36,450 --> 00:56:37,930 And I took about four binders, 1049 00:56:37,930 --> 00:56:40,360 the last five or six years out of my office, 1050 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,410 one huge binder for every year. 1051 00:56:42,410 --> 00:56:46,330 So, we also used to have some more kind of 1052 00:56:46,330 --> 00:56:48,630 other outside agency classrooms here, 1053 00:56:48,630 --> 00:56:51,473 Washington County Mental Health, where there was definitely. 1054 00:56:53,207 --> 00:56:55,580 We had a lot of things like that on site historically. 1055 00:56:55,580 --> 00:56:58,590 So that might be why we have some more, 1056 00:56:58,590 --> 00:57:01,230 some of that restraint piece that has historically gone on 1057 00:57:01,230 --> 00:57:03,060 in this building, more than I've seen in other schools, 1058 00:57:03,060 --> 00:57:03,913 I'm not sure. 1059 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:06,610 So we have the behaviorists that I think 1060 00:57:06,610 --> 00:57:08,886 would love to like see more tier one, 1061 00:57:08,886 --> 00:57:10,980 would like to be part of some of this positive stuff. 1062 00:57:10,980 --> 00:57:13,430 We also have them available to kind of remove kids 1063 00:57:13,430 --> 00:57:15,030 when teachers have kinda had it. 1064 00:57:16,100 --> 00:57:19,602 We kinda have some of those dynamics also in our building. 1065 00:57:19,602 --> 00:57:22,053 I don't know if that adds a different. 1066 00:57:23,070 --> 00:57:26,120 - Yeah, I mean, and the easiest thing to do, right, 1067 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,190 is push a student away 1068 00:57:29,190 --> 00:57:34,170 when they are causing an issue, right? 1069 00:57:34,170 --> 00:57:35,360 You wanna preserve the learning 1070 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:36,480 for the rest of your students, 1071 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,963 and so you say this kid's gotta go. 1072 00:57:40,430 --> 00:57:43,920 But likely, if they were to look at their data, 1073 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,420 the kids they're sending, they're sending repeatedly, right. 1074 00:57:47,420 --> 00:57:49,910 That intervention of sending them away 1075 00:57:49,910 --> 00:57:54,102 is not working to reduce the problem behavior. 1076 00:57:54,102 --> 00:57:55,210 - That was my guess. - So if it were working, 1077 00:57:55,210 --> 00:57:57,820 right, if sending them away meant that 1078 00:57:57,820 --> 00:57:58,850 for the next three weeks 1079 00:57:58,850 --> 00:58:01,010 they have no problem behaviors in their classrooms, 1080 00:58:01,010 --> 00:58:02,030 then we might say, okay, 1081 00:58:02,030 --> 00:58:04,220 that seems like that strategy's working for that kid. 1082 00:58:04,220 --> 00:58:06,950 Maybe they just needed a break outside the classroom. 1083 00:58:06,950 --> 00:58:09,960 But for most kids we're sending outside the classroom, 1084 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,290 that doesn't actually change their behavior. 1085 00:58:13,290 --> 00:58:17,840 So, but when you have a person like that that's available, 1086 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,300 it's so much easier for a teacher to send a kid out 1087 00:58:20,300 --> 00:58:23,400 than to deal with that problem within their classroom. 1088 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,640 And so a piece of it is just that ease 1089 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:30,820 and shifting it to be a different way 1090 00:58:30,820 --> 00:58:33,710 of handling responses to problem behavior. 1091 00:58:33,710 --> 00:58:36,380 So it's kind of multi-pronged, right. 1092 00:58:36,380 --> 00:58:37,610 Like if the teachers, 1093 00:58:37,610 --> 00:58:39,580 it might be that they don't feel equipped 1094 00:58:39,580 --> 00:58:41,920 to handle problem behaviors in their classroom. 1095 00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:43,560 It might be that they haven't set up 1096 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:44,690 a classroom environment 1097 00:58:44,690 --> 00:58:46,410 that's gonna discourage problem behaviors 1098 00:58:46,410 --> 00:58:48,850 from happening in the first place. 1099 00:58:48,850 --> 00:58:50,830 So it's different, based on different teachers, 1100 00:58:50,830 --> 00:58:52,960 but you might find across the building, 1101 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:57,960 the general sense is that teachers are fatigued, 1102 00:58:58,860 --> 00:59:01,420 are not getting the mental health support that they need, 1103 00:59:01,420 --> 00:59:05,060 and so the easiest thing to do is send the kid out. 1104 00:59:05,060 --> 00:59:06,900 So helping them to see the data, 1105 00:59:06,900 --> 00:59:09,913 that that doesn't actually change the student's behavior. 1106 00:59:12,450 --> 00:59:16,500 That process is taking 25 minutes 1107 00:59:16,500 --> 00:59:18,450 out of that student's learning. 1108 00:59:18,450 --> 00:59:20,590 That then the teacher's having to spend with them 1109 00:59:20,590 --> 00:59:24,070 at another time to make up that loss learning. 1110 00:59:24,070 --> 00:59:26,640 So it's kind of building dependent, 1111 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,750 but getting to those kinds of root causes 1112 00:59:28,750 --> 00:59:31,130 of where was that coming from can be really helpful 1113 00:59:31,130 --> 00:59:33,833 in terms of getting past that resistance. 1114 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,770 Yeah, so Heather's saying 1115 00:59:37,770 --> 00:59:40,190 we really have that consistent language 1116 00:59:40,190 --> 00:59:41,940 when we have PBIS in place, 1117 00:59:41,940 --> 00:59:44,700 and we have consistent response processes. 1118 00:59:44,700 --> 00:59:48,940 So we know what behaviors should be able to be managed 1119 00:59:48,940 --> 00:59:50,350 within the classroom. 1120 00:59:50,350 --> 00:59:52,243 What behaviors might need, 1121 00:59:53,180 --> 00:59:56,700 behaviors to whoever you've got in your building to respond. 1122 00:59:56,700 --> 01:00:01,400 Or what behaviors get to that kind of next level of needing 1123 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,970 an administrator or someone like that to respond. 1124 01:00:03,970 --> 01:00:06,410 So we kind of help schools create a flow chart 1125 01:00:06,410 --> 01:00:08,530 for what responses to problem behaviors 1126 01:00:08,530 --> 01:00:09,580 should look like too. 1127 01:00:11,740 --> 01:00:13,560 - And can I just add one little thing, 1128 01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,940 just because I've worked with the school so much 1129 01:00:15,940 --> 01:00:16,943 in the past. 1130 01:00:18,790 --> 01:00:23,240 It is something that the administrative team, 1131 01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,570 or the leadership team, both at the SU level 1132 01:00:26,570 --> 01:00:30,760 and at the school level, has to say is a priority. 1133 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,670 Not PBIS per se, 1134 01:00:32,670 --> 01:00:36,160 but the social and emotional wellbeing of students. 1135 01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,570 And if it's a priority, the system really needs 1136 01:00:39,570 --> 01:00:43,060 to rally around that to figure out what to do. 1137 01:00:43,060 --> 01:00:48,060 PBIS offers a lot of structure to be very creative within, 1138 01:00:50,114 --> 01:00:55,114 and looking at behavior the way Amy suggests 1139 01:00:55,700 --> 01:00:58,010 is a really good way to get started. 1140 01:00:58,010 --> 01:01:02,793 But without that buy-in from leadership to promote this, 1141 01:01:04,530 --> 01:01:07,950 you're going to always have an uphill struggle. 1142 01:01:07,950 --> 01:01:12,950 So, yeah, that would be just something to really consider 1143 01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,150 working with the administration on. 1144 01:01:16,150 --> 01:01:18,360 - I think we're gaining that and we're at a place 1145 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:22,623 where that potentially could happen. 1146 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:27,840 But I think we also need to sort of figure out, 1147 01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,920 before we dive in, how to make sure that, 1148 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,470 I think there's just still a lot of 1149 01:01:34,470 --> 01:01:39,080 maybe lack of understanding of what PBIS really is. 1150 01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:43,520 And so sort of I think we're trying to figure out, okay, 1151 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:44,930 if we're gonna put a team together 1152 01:01:44,930 --> 01:01:48,350 to go to the training in March, who should be on that team, 1153 01:01:48,350 --> 01:01:49,690 what should that look like? 1154 01:01:49,690 --> 01:01:54,010 How do we sort of prepare for even figuring out 1155 01:01:54,010 --> 01:01:55,680 who should be on the team? 1156 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:56,890 Making sure that we're ready 1157 01:01:56,890 --> 01:02:00,020 'cause I think it would be worse for us 1158 01:02:00,020 --> 01:02:03,003 to try this and fail in some ways than it would be to. 1159 01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,610 And there are some preconceptions about PBIS 1160 01:02:09,610 --> 01:02:10,743 that are incorrect. 1161 01:02:11,590 --> 01:02:13,473 Dealing just with large system. 1162 01:02:14,388 --> 01:02:17,650 And a lot's come in and out here over the years. 1163 01:02:17,650 --> 01:02:21,063 - Yes, well, I'm glad you're there Martha to help try to. 1164 01:02:22,908 --> 01:02:24,610 - I feel like a nag but, oh well. 1165 01:02:24,610 --> 01:02:25,793 Can't help it. 1166 01:02:25,793 --> 01:02:27,371 Love PBIS. 1167 01:02:27,371 --> 01:02:28,850 - [Woman] We're gonna get together. 1168 01:02:28,850 --> 01:02:32,130 - And you know sometimes, like Sherry just said, 1169 01:02:32,130 --> 01:02:34,100 we say call it whatever you want. 1170 01:02:34,100 --> 01:02:36,090 You don't have to call it PBIS. 1171 01:02:36,090 --> 01:02:38,050 You need some kind of system in place 1172 01:02:38,050 --> 01:02:40,890 for social, emotional and behavioral wellbeing 1173 01:02:40,890 --> 01:02:42,973 and supports for students. 1174 01:02:44,090 --> 01:02:48,730 And PBIS is one way to do that and has some good resources 1175 01:02:48,730 --> 01:02:50,233 and research behind it. 1176 01:02:51,620 --> 01:02:53,670 But call it whatever you want. 1177 01:02:53,670 --> 01:02:56,020 You've gotta have consistent expectations. 1178 01:02:56,020 --> 01:02:57,810 You've gotta have a data management system. 1179 01:02:57,810 --> 01:03:00,250 You have to have those components 1180 01:03:00,250 --> 01:03:03,440 in order for a school to function successfully 1181 01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,020 in this realm. 1182 01:03:05,020 --> 01:03:07,570 Just like there are certain components 1183 01:03:07,570 --> 01:03:11,500 of MTSS for academics that just need to be in place 1184 01:03:11,500 --> 01:03:13,150 in any school that's functioning. 1185 01:03:14,375 --> 01:03:17,630 And so there is some element of call it whatever you want. 1186 01:03:17,630 --> 01:03:21,100 It's kinda, we've gotta have these components. 1187 01:03:21,100 --> 01:03:23,460 So it's tricky when you've gotta send a team 1188 01:03:23,460 --> 01:03:27,650 to a training called PBIS, but if you can think about it 1189 01:03:27,650 --> 01:03:31,330 in some different ways to help staff get over that barrier 1190 01:03:31,330 --> 01:03:35,260 of it's called PBIS and we don't like PBIS. 1191 01:03:35,260 --> 01:03:37,250 So, there's always a piece of that. 1192 01:03:37,250 --> 01:03:41,020 And to think about are those people just the loudest. 1193 01:03:41,020 --> 01:03:42,800 And so their voices are being heard. 1194 01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:46,240 And really you've got a majority of staff 1195 01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,370 who are ready to explore something, 1196 01:03:48,370 --> 01:03:51,453 because their current reality is not sustainable. 1197 01:03:52,610 --> 01:03:54,620 But you're only hearing from those that have 1198 01:03:54,620 --> 01:03:56,270 a really strong opinion about it. 1199 01:03:57,380 --> 01:03:58,570 - And just one more thing. 1200 01:03:58,570 --> 01:04:00,403 It's a very very large school. 1201 01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:03,340 For Vermont schools. 1202 01:04:03,340 --> 01:04:07,940 And when this happened in the very beginning, 1203 01:04:07,940 --> 01:04:10,400 your school was like one of the first schools 1204 01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,780 and we were still learning about PBIS 1205 01:04:12,780 --> 01:04:15,640 and PBIS has evolved so much 1206 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,520 to be what Amy has said so well today, 1207 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:22,430 which is working with instead of for and to. 1208 01:04:22,430 --> 01:04:27,430 So taking your time to really honor staff and their feedback 1209 01:04:28,420 --> 01:04:31,000 and their input, and having a process for that, 1210 01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:32,780 as well as students and families. 1211 01:04:32,780 --> 01:04:37,780 So it's really changed quite a bit since the older days, 1212 01:04:41,117 --> 01:04:45,697 with the framework that is still in place and intact. 1213 01:04:46,870 --> 01:04:47,703 - [Amy] Thanks. 1214 01:04:48,550 --> 01:04:52,140 - Yeah, I don't think there's negativity per se toward it. 1215 01:04:52,140 --> 01:04:57,140 I think it's just more, I'm not sure, maybe apathy, 1216 01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:59,484 and so we're just trying to figure out 1217 01:04:59,484 --> 01:05:02,170 how to move forward and to get staff input, 1218 01:05:02,170 --> 01:05:07,170 but not allow loud voices to throw things off course 1219 01:05:08,810 --> 01:05:11,310 any more than, and to get administrative support, 1220 01:05:11,310 --> 01:05:12,653 which I feel like we have. 1221 01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:15,770 But it's a K-8 school 1222 01:05:15,770 --> 01:05:17,800 and there's a pretty big distinction 1223 01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:19,620 between the middle school and the elementary school. 1224 01:05:19,620 --> 01:05:23,103 So we're looking at starting to submit elementary school. 1225 01:05:25,150 --> 01:05:26,826 I don't know if that's gonna be, 1226 01:05:26,826 --> 01:05:27,770 if that's problematic or not, 1227 01:05:27,770 --> 01:05:32,770 that it would be K-4 rather than across the grades. 1228 01:05:34,780 --> 01:05:37,623 - Yeah, we've had some who have done it that way. 1229 01:05:38,750 --> 01:05:42,770 It's tricky when then those students might interact with, 1230 01:05:42,770 --> 01:05:44,720 like let's say the music teacher is K8, 1231 01:05:45,710 --> 01:05:48,643 and so how do people like that fit into it. 1232 01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,300 But it's definitely a place to start 1233 01:05:51,300 --> 01:05:52,690 and then kind of inch up. 1234 01:05:52,690 --> 01:05:54,550 So now you're gonna add fifth grade, 1235 01:05:54,550 --> 01:05:56,040 you're gonna add sixth grade, 1236 01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:57,750 so that the students don't all of a sudden 1237 01:05:57,750 --> 01:05:59,890 arrive in fifth grade and are like, wait a second. 1238 01:05:59,890 --> 01:06:02,540 Like what, I thought this was how we did things here. 1239 01:06:03,500 --> 01:06:07,290 So it can be tricky if the physical environment 1240 01:06:07,290 --> 01:06:10,430 is that they're interacting a lot with those other grades, 1241 01:06:10,430 --> 01:06:12,760 but it is a place to start. 1242 01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:14,700 - They're very invested in developmental designs, 1243 01:06:14,700 --> 01:06:17,570 which actually fits perfectly into the PBIS framework, 1244 01:06:17,570 --> 01:06:19,160 but it's been hard to get people 1245 01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:21,170 to completely understand that. 1246 01:06:21,170 --> 01:06:23,710 And I don't want them to feel like they're gonna be, 1247 01:06:23,710 --> 01:06:25,590 that PBIS would supplant something 1248 01:06:25,590 --> 01:06:27,020 that they're excited about. 1249 01:06:27,020 --> 01:06:29,373 So I'm just hoping that over time, 1250 01:06:29,373 --> 01:06:32,010 that that understanding is there. 1251 01:06:32,010 --> 01:06:33,890 That developmental sciences 1252 01:06:33,890 --> 01:06:35,700 fits perfectly into a PBIS framework. 1253 01:06:35,700 --> 01:06:37,030 So. 1254 01:06:37,030 --> 01:06:37,863 - Yeah. 1255 01:06:39,810 --> 01:06:43,053 Oh, it's hard work but it's worth it. 1256 01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:45,220 - And it is worth it. 1257 01:06:45,220 --> 01:06:46,053 - Yeah. 1258 01:06:48,490 --> 01:06:50,610 So, like we said, it's hard work. 1259 01:06:50,610 --> 01:06:53,920 So we have a system of support in place in Vermont 1260 01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:57,410 that allows for support and for feedback. 1261 01:06:57,410 --> 01:06:59,330 So at the state level 1262 01:06:59,330 --> 01:07:02,340 we have five technical assistance providers. 1263 01:07:02,340 --> 01:07:04,190 So myself and Sherry are two of them, 1264 01:07:04,190 --> 01:07:05,260 and then we have three others 1265 01:07:05,260 --> 01:07:07,333 that serve the rest of the state. 1266 01:07:08,580 --> 01:07:11,790 And so your school is in a particular region 1267 01:07:11,790 --> 01:07:15,320 that has a particular TA provider associated with them. 1268 01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,400 And we can provide some support 1269 01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,963 during the readiness process and throughout. 1270 01:07:22,130 --> 01:07:26,530 But if schools are looking for some ongoing support 1271 01:07:26,530 --> 01:07:29,541 for someone to attend some leadership team, 1272 01:07:29,541 --> 01:07:32,120 or sorry some leadership team meetings, 1273 01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:36,680 we have coaches available that are able to be funded 1274 01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:41,680 through BEST/Act 230 money or other budgeting sources, 1275 01:07:42,260 --> 01:07:44,370 that can provide that ongoing support. 1276 01:07:44,370 --> 01:07:46,690 And those coaches also serve as our trainers 1277 01:07:46,690 --> 01:07:48,823 for the trainings throughout the year. 1278 01:07:50,069 --> 01:07:52,890 And then at the SU level, as you're coming on, 1279 01:07:52,890 --> 01:07:56,980 part of the intent to implement process is identifying an SU 1280 01:07:56,980 --> 01:08:01,980 or SD coordinator who really holds this work at that level. 1281 01:08:02,300 --> 01:08:05,690 And helps support each of the schools in their district 1282 01:08:05,690 --> 01:08:08,560 that are working on PBIS. 1283 01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:12,540 And then we ask for one person or co, 1284 01:08:12,540 --> 01:08:15,540 two people, to be a school level coordinator. 1285 01:08:15,540 --> 01:08:17,490 And that's kind of the person 1286 01:08:17,490 --> 01:08:20,510 who has this on their to-do list all the time 1287 01:08:20,510 --> 01:08:24,230 and is working to maintain and improve PBIS implementation 1288 01:08:24,230 --> 01:08:25,733 at the school level. 1289 01:08:26,750 --> 01:08:29,880 And then we are looking at each of those little levels 1290 01:08:30,798 --> 01:08:33,270 for feedback, so that we can kind of 1291 01:08:33,270 --> 01:08:35,690 adapt our trainings to what works best, 1292 01:08:35,690 --> 01:08:38,560 and learn from the successes of our schools 1293 01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:40,440 and our districts. 1294 01:08:40,440 --> 01:08:42,860 And each of those levels of support 1295 01:08:42,860 --> 01:08:44,730 should have a leadership team. 1296 01:08:44,730 --> 01:08:46,850 So if you have multiple schools in your district 1297 01:08:46,850 --> 01:08:49,320 that are implementing PBIS, 1298 01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:51,530 the school coordinators should be coming together 1299 01:08:51,530 --> 01:08:56,190 with the SU coordinator, maybe on a quarterly basis, 1300 01:08:56,190 --> 01:09:00,580 some meet even monthly, to be able to learn from one another 1301 01:09:00,580 --> 01:09:02,570 and get support. 1302 01:09:02,570 --> 01:09:05,320 And then we have a state level leadership team, 1303 01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:08,483 and obviously you have a school level PBIS leadership team 1304 01:09:08,483 --> 01:09:10,400 if you're implementing. 1305 01:09:11,420 --> 01:09:14,380 So Martha was just mentioning 1306 01:09:14,380 --> 01:09:18,950 who might we have on our PBIS team to come to training? 1307 01:09:18,950 --> 01:09:20,633 So obviously your coordinator. 1308 01:09:21,490 --> 01:09:24,480 We require that the school administrator 1309 01:09:24,480 --> 01:09:27,300 come to your team trainings, 1310 01:09:27,300 --> 01:09:29,800 because they really are a key component 1311 01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,040 of making sure this work sustains in your building, 1312 01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,650 making sure that they have a full understanding 1313 01:09:34,650 --> 01:09:39,650 and are able to provide for any resources 1314 01:09:40,350 --> 01:09:43,533 and support that staff are gonna need in this process. 1315 01:09:44,940 --> 01:09:49,283 And have that decision-making authority within the building. 1316 01:09:50,500 --> 01:09:53,320 Teachers and staff obviously that are representative 1317 01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:55,510 of your school building. 1318 01:09:55,510 --> 01:09:58,790 So thinking about do we have a related arts teacher? 1319 01:09:58,790 --> 01:10:00,910 Do we have a special educator? 1320 01:10:00,910 --> 01:10:02,780 Do we have an early person? 1321 01:10:02,780 --> 01:10:05,720 If you have a K-5 school, 1322 01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:07,060 you don't want it to be just 1323 01:10:07,060 --> 01:10:08,400 fourth and fifth grade teachers. 1324 01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,163 So thinking about a representative team. 1325 01:10:16,179 --> 01:10:19,500 And making sure that each person in the building 1326 01:10:19,500 --> 01:10:21,683 would have a voice on that team. 1327 01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:26,950 So thinking about support staff. 1328 01:10:26,950 --> 01:10:29,150 If they had a question or concern, 1329 01:10:29,150 --> 01:10:33,103 who's gonna be representing that at your PBIS meeting. 1330 01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:38,230 We highly encourage family members and students. 1331 01:10:38,230 --> 01:10:42,110 This is definitely something that schools struggle with. 1332 01:10:42,110 --> 01:10:44,080 Making sure that they have family members 1333 01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:45,100 and students on their team, 1334 01:10:45,100 --> 01:10:48,060 and thinking about how that can work logistically 1335 01:10:48,060 --> 01:10:50,550 in terms of when teams are meeting. 1336 01:10:50,550 --> 01:10:54,180 And there's always some concern about confidentiality. 1337 01:10:54,180 --> 01:10:57,990 However, your universal team should never be talking about 1338 01:10:57,990 --> 01:11:00,530 individual student's names, 1339 01:11:00,530 --> 01:11:03,573 regardless of whether there's family and students there, 1340 01:11:04,530 --> 01:11:08,060 because they're really thinking about school-wide PBIS, 1341 01:11:08,060 --> 01:11:09,583 school-wide behavior. 1342 01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:13,620 And so like individual student's names 1343 01:11:13,620 --> 01:11:15,370 shouldn't be a part of that anyway. 1344 01:11:16,711 --> 01:11:20,250 And in our modules, we talk a little bit more about 1345 01:11:20,250 --> 01:11:22,780 how you can have family member 1346 01:11:22,780 --> 01:11:24,763 and student voice represented, 1347 01:11:25,610 --> 01:11:27,900 regardless of whether you actually have someone 1348 01:11:27,900 --> 01:11:29,590 on your team. 1349 01:11:29,590 --> 01:11:33,620 However, we highly recommend that you have family members 1350 01:11:33,620 --> 01:11:34,827 and students on your team. 1351 01:11:34,827 --> 01:11:38,350 And I think this year in particular really emphasized 1352 01:11:38,350 --> 01:11:40,990 how important it is to have family members 1353 01:11:42,220 --> 01:11:44,913 who are able to have a voice in things like this. 1354 01:11:45,980 --> 01:11:49,310 And when you're thinking about all of these people, 1355 01:11:49,310 --> 01:11:53,440 across them, do you have different areas of competency? 1356 01:11:53,440 --> 01:11:56,303 So do you have someone with applied behavioral expertise, 1357 01:11:57,480 --> 01:11:59,080 with coaching expertise? 1358 01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,870 Someone who knows about academic and behavioral patterns 1359 01:12:01,870 --> 01:12:06,250 across the school, across grade levels, across programs. 1360 01:12:06,250 --> 01:12:09,330 And we're really encouraging that you have someone 1361 01:12:09,330 --> 01:12:11,350 who's knowledgeable about restorative approaches 1362 01:12:11,350 --> 01:12:15,230 or practices, or someone who's willing to learn more, 1363 01:12:15,230 --> 01:12:16,700 be on your universal team, 1364 01:12:16,700 --> 01:12:20,510 so that that can be part of your work from the beginning. 1365 01:12:20,510 --> 01:12:24,030 And that that person can constantly be prompting 1366 01:12:24,030 --> 01:12:27,670 like is this, does this fall into line 1367 01:12:27,670 --> 01:12:29,533 with our restorative approach? 1368 01:12:33,020 --> 01:12:33,853 Oops, sorry. 1369 01:12:37,869 --> 01:12:41,120 So team members should be sharing team roles. 1370 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,810 So we have examples for what role someone might serve 1371 01:12:43,810 --> 01:12:45,680 within the meeting, before the meeting. 1372 01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,440 So someone like a data analyst would be looking at 1373 01:12:48,440 --> 01:12:50,900 your behavioral data before the meeting. 1374 01:12:50,900 --> 01:12:53,860 Again, they should be able to kind of report back 1375 01:12:53,860 --> 01:12:55,760 to their representative group within the school 1376 01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,840 about what the PBIS team is working on, 1377 01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:00,273 what their action plan is. 1378 01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:02,660 Team meetings should be monthly. 1379 01:13:02,660 --> 01:13:05,330 And so those leadership team members should be available 1380 01:13:05,330 --> 01:13:06,983 for that monthly team meeting. 1381 01:13:08,130 --> 01:13:11,300 They should divide tasks amongst themselves 1382 01:13:11,300 --> 01:13:14,000 and be able to kind of act as that PBIS cheerleader 1383 01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,380 for the building, to promote the work. 1384 01:13:16,380 --> 01:13:18,770 And you can see in the picture on the right, 1385 01:13:18,770 --> 01:13:21,240 this is Rick Marcotte School, 1386 01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:25,110 and this is a team meeting where they had students present 1387 01:13:25,110 --> 01:13:28,830 and looking at the data, right alongside the staff, 1388 01:13:28,830 --> 01:13:29,693 which is awesome. 1389 01:13:30,910 --> 01:13:33,240 So even at the elementary level, 1390 01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,590 including their students as part of their team. 1391 01:13:36,770 --> 01:13:39,683 Sherry talked about the importance of the administrator. 1392 01:13:41,066 --> 01:13:44,760 And so the administrator is very key to the team, 1393 01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,350 should be really active and visible on the team. 1394 01:13:47,350 --> 01:13:49,919 Able to promote and prioritize PBIS. 1395 01:13:49,919 --> 01:13:53,590 So something as simple as your August, well it's not simple, 1396 01:13:53,590 --> 01:13:55,463 but your August inservice. 1397 01:13:56,350 --> 01:14:00,030 If your administrator is not on board with PBIS, 1398 01:14:00,030 --> 01:14:01,560 there's not going to be time 1399 01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:03,640 devoted in your August inservice 1400 01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:05,993 for staff to learn about PBIS. 1401 01:14:07,022 --> 01:14:10,200 So a teacher or a coordinator doesn't have the power 1402 01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,330 to create the inservice schedule. 1403 01:14:12,330 --> 01:14:17,330 So thinking about how you can draw your administrator in 1404 01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:19,393 if they're not already invested. 1405 01:14:21,065 --> 01:14:24,870 And they should be a member of the team, 1406 01:14:24,870 --> 01:14:26,153 just as anyone else is. 1407 01:14:27,006 --> 01:14:29,870 So also volunteering for team tasks, attending the meetings 1408 01:14:29,870 --> 01:14:32,000 just like any other team member might be. 1409 01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:36,400 So we, that was the previous principal at Allen Brook, 1410 01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,410 wearing the silly hat, just like everybody else. 1411 01:14:39,410 --> 01:14:41,670 And the reason that we emphasize this 1412 01:14:41,670 --> 01:14:43,360 is because the research bears out 1413 01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,910 that when there is administrator support, 1414 01:14:45,910 --> 01:14:48,090 that's one of the strongest predictors of PBIS 1415 01:14:48,090 --> 01:14:49,473 being able to sustain. 1416 01:14:50,590 --> 01:14:53,630 And even just perceived administrator support. 1417 01:14:53,630 --> 01:14:56,450 So if teachers believe that the administrator is supportive 1418 01:14:56,450 --> 01:15:00,063 and prioritizing this, that can lead to sustainability. 1419 01:15:02,530 --> 01:15:05,310 The school coordinator should really be the person 1420 01:15:05,310 --> 01:15:08,343 supporting the team, maintaining their action plan. 1421 01:15:09,700 --> 01:15:13,924 Being that positive nag, like Martha was mentioning. 1422 01:15:13,924 --> 01:15:15,900 Facilitating the use of data. 1423 01:15:15,900 --> 01:15:18,480 So maybe that data is not their strong point 1424 01:15:18,480 --> 01:15:20,060 but they are making sure 1425 01:15:20,060 --> 01:15:23,170 that the person who is strong with looking at data 1426 01:15:23,170 --> 01:15:26,040 has access to the data when they need it. 1427 01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:27,810 Doing any kinds of public relations 1428 01:15:27,810 --> 01:15:29,960 and communications about PBIS. 1429 01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,820 Networking with other schools who are implementing. 1430 01:15:32,820 --> 01:15:34,400 And they're kind of the conduit 1431 01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:38,050 between the school and our team. 1432 01:15:38,050 --> 01:15:41,020 So that's Abby Bennett over at Proctor, 1433 01:15:41,020 --> 01:15:43,590 giving some PD to her staff 1434 01:15:43,590 --> 01:15:46,113 around classroom behavior practices. 1435 01:15:48,770 --> 01:15:52,910 And we recommend that the person who's in this role 1436 01:15:52,910 --> 01:15:57,910 has .1 FTE of their time devoted to this role. 1437 01:16:00,480 --> 01:16:01,860 So they should be freed up 1438 01:16:01,860 --> 01:16:03,800 from some other kinds of responsibilities 1439 01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:06,300 so that they can complete their PBIS tasks 1440 01:16:06,300 --> 01:16:08,240 during the school day. 1441 01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:09,720 So they shouldn't just be expected 1442 01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:11,980 to take on this coordinator role 1443 01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,860 in addition to their current role. 1444 01:16:15,860 --> 01:16:18,950 So maybe they, all the other staff in the building 1445 01:16:18,950 --> 01:16:21,180 have bus and recess duty. 1446 01:16:21,180 --> 01:16:24,820 And maybe this person's time, rather than being spent 1447 01:16:24,820 --> 01:16:25,910 at bus and recess duty, 1448 01:16:25,910 --> 01:16:28,103 is spent on their PBSI coordination role. 1449 01:16:29,620 --> 01:16:32,480 They should be somebody that's able to develop 1450 01:16:32,480 --> 01:16:35,620 a positive rapport, or who already has a positive rapport 1451 01:16:35,620 --> 01:16:37,610 with other school staff. 1452 01:16:37,610 --> 01:16:40,530 Somebody that when they speak, people are going to listen 1453 01:16:40,530 --> 01:16:42,530 and trust them. 1454 01:16:42,530 --> 01:16:45,983 And they obviously should be coming to our trainings. 1455 01:16:47,980 --> 01:16:51,010 So they kind of ensure that the team is scheduled to meet, 1456 01:16:51,010 --> 01:16:52,430 that facilitation occurs. 1457 01:16:52,430 --> 01:16:54,460 Again they don't have to be the facilitator 1458 01:16:54,460 --> 01:16:55,293 of every meeting. 1459 01:16:55,293 --> 01:16:57,770 They should be someone who's able to delegate roles 1460 01:16:59,195 --> 01:17:01,470 and attend our coordinator's meetings 1461 01:17:01,470 --> 01:17:04,320 to keep current with all PBIS things. 1462 01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:08,950 So they are kind of the internal PBIS expert 1463 01:17:08,950 --> 01:17:09,950 within the building. 1464 01:17:12,190 --> 01:17:14,260 So take just a minute to jot down 1465 01:17:14,260 --> 01:17:17,220 one of these responsibilities, that if you are a coordinator 1466 01:17:17,220 --> 01:17:21,000 or becoming a coordinator, you think might be important 1467 01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:22,150 to your role this year. 1468 01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:47,410 And this year all of our trainings are remote. 1469 01:17:47,410 --> 01:17:51,030 So in some ways they're easier to access for some people. 1470 01:17:51,030 --> 01:17:54,600 But we also know that people are having trouble getting subs 1471 01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:55,540 and things like that. 1472 01:17:55,540 --> 01:17:58,860 So it's a balancing act. 1473 01:17:58,860 --> 01:18:00,243 - [Woman] I'm sorry Amy, what was the rest of that question? 1474 01:18:00,243 --> 01:18:03,970 Take a moment to write down one responsibility you see as? 1475 01:18:03,970 --> 01:18:07,330 - Particularly important to be mindful of this year 1476 01:18:07,330 --> 01:18:09,280 in your role if you're the coordinator. 1477 01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:14,410 Something you wanna prioritize 1478 01:18:14,410 --> 01:18:17,593 or just keep on your docket. 1479 01:18:36,710 --> 01:18:37,543 Okay. 1480 01:18:40,060 --> 01:18:42,420 So when you're looking for somebody to volunteer 1481 01:18:42,420 --> 01:18:44,470 to be the school coordinator, 1482 01:18:44,470 --> 01:18:46,610 you're hoping you will have someone 1483 01:18:46,610 --> 01:18:49,190 who is either fluent with PBIS features, 1484 01:18:49,190 --> 01:18:51,853 or is willing to develop that fluency. 1485 01:18:53,610 --> 01:18:55,270 Like I mentioned, someone who is able 1486 01:18:55,270 --> 01:18:59,450 to effectively communicate with a variety of stakeholders, 1487 01:18:59,450 --> 01:19:04,140 and someone who's able to positively report on the work 1488 01:19:04,140 --> 01:19:06,573 that is happening, share successes, 1489 01:19:07,450 --> 01:19:11,340 and really be reinforcing for the team members 1490 01:19:11,340 --> 01:19:13,380 and for the school staff, 1491 01:19:13,380 --> 01:19:16,893 that their hard work is paying off and showing them how. 1492 01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:24,510 So next I'm gonna move on to the SU/SD coordinator. 1493 01:19:24,510 --> 01:19:26,340 And in some of our districts, 1494 01:19:26,340 --> 01:19:29,890 this person is kind of a coordinator in name alone. 1495 01:19:29,890 --> 01:19:32,330 So they've been listed on our directory as the coordinator 1496 01:19:32,330 --> 01:19:36,070 but they don't really kind of actively embrace this role. 1497 01:19:36,070 --> 01:19:40,000 We have other districts where this SU coordinator, 1498 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,270 it's really part of their job description 1499 01:19:42,270 --> 01:19:45,070 to be the PBIS coordinator for the district. 1500 01:19:45,070 --> 01:19:47,540 And they're able to kind of fulfill 1501 01:19:47,540 --> 01:19:50,810 all of the roles and responsibilities of that position. 1502 01:19:50,810 --> 01:19:52,680 And what we're seeing is that districts 1503 01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:54,640 where that is in place 1504 01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:58,780 are really able to sustain PBIS better. 1505 01:19:58,780 --> 01:20:02,220 And their school coordinators feel a lot of support. 1506 01:20:02,220 --> 01:20:05,140 And in turn their schools feel a lot of support. 1507 01:20:05,140 --> 01:20:08,040 So we really are emphasizing the importance of this role 1508 01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:11,530 and hoping that each district that we work with 1509 01:20:11,530 --> 01:20:12,610 has someone in this role 1510 01:20:12,610 --> 01:20:16,873 that's really able to incorporate this as part of their job. 1511 01:20:18,420 --> 01:20:20,730 So, like I said, if you have more than one PBIS school 1512 01:20:20,730 --> 01:20:21,700 within your district, 1513 01:20:21,700 --> 01:20:25,150 there should be an SU/SD leadership team. 1514 01:20:25,150 --> 01:20:28,090 This person might conduct set evaluations for us. 1515 01:20:28,090 --> 01:20:30,610 So this is a school-wide evaluation tool. 1516 01:20:30,610 --> 01:20:33,240 This year we are not using that tool 1517 01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:36,760 because it relies heavily on an external person, 1518 01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:37,940 like the SU coordinator, 1519 01:20:37,940 --> 01:20:40,730 or one of us coming into the building. 1520 01:20:40,730 --> 01:20:43,540 So obviously we can't do that this year. 1521 01:20:43,540 --> 01:20:46,693 They serve as a liaison between the schools and our team. 1522 01:20:48,020 --> 01:20:51,520 They should be going to the school-based teams 1523 01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:55,320 two to three times a year, and are able to provide feedback 1524 01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:58,830 and support to those teams, resources, funding. 1525 01:20:58,830 --> 01:21:02,010 They often are the ones applying for the BEST/Act 230 Grant 1526 01:21:02,010 --> 01:21:05,540 and allowing for staff capacity to increase 1527 01:21:05,540 --> 01:21:09,603 by including staff trainings in the SU training calendar. 1528 01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:14,340 So more information about each of these roles 1529 01:21:14,340 --> 01:21:16,460 is included in the coordinator handbook, 1530 01:21:16,460 --> 01:21:18,643 which is listed as one of the resources. 1531 01:21:20,050 --> 01:21:23,050 So Sherry has shared the link to the resources 1532 01:21:23,050 --> 01:21:24,480 in the chat box. 1533 01:21:24,480 --> 01:21:26,323 This coordinator handbook is there. 1534 01:21:27,220 --> 01:21:29,300 Super great tool for if you are new 1535 01:21:29,300 --> 01:21:30,720 to this coordination rule, 1536 01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:33,570 or have kind of lost track of what your job is 1537 01:21:33,570 --> 01:21:34,870 as the coordinator. 1538 01:21:34,870 --> 01:21:39,060 It has a calendar for each of the responsibilities, 1539 01:21:39,060 --> 01:21:42,197 when they should be happening throughout the year. 1540 01:21:42,197 --> 01:21:45,060 And it's just a great resource. 1541 01:21:45,060 --> 01:21:47,210 And TJ is mentioning they're not the coordinator 1542 01:21:47,210 --> 01:21:49,270 but are trying to get in as much training as possible. 1543 01:21:49,270 --> 01:21:50,103 That's great. 1544 01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:53,660 The more staff in your building that can be fluent 1545 01:21:53,660 --> 01:21:58,253 with PBIS, the more supported the coordinator is gonna feel. 1546 01:21:59,190 --> 01:22:01,020 So, like I mentioned, role descriptions. 1547 01:22:01,020 --> 01:22:03,410 The coordinator self-assessment, which I think Heather said 1548 01:22:03,410 --> 01:22:04,840 she's already starting to fill out. 1549 01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:06,060 So great. 1550 01:22:06,060 --> 01:22:08,263 A checklist of responsibilities, 1551 01:22:09,217 --> 01:22:12,480 so that you can kind of keep track of where you're at, 1552 01:22:12,480 --> 01:22:14,780 and where some areas for improvement might be. 1553 01:22:16,300 --> 01:22:18,170 So I'll just pause again. 1554 01:22:18,170 --> 01:22:20,200 If you have any questions or comments 1555 01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:23,730 about the role of the SU coordinator, 1556 01:22:23,730 --> 01:22:27,813 the school coordinator or the administrator or team members. 1557 01:22:36,220 --> 01:22:39,280 - I know that in our district, 1558 01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:42,600 that Barre Town School has been very active in PBIS. 1559 01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:45,520 I have no idea who our district coordinator is. 1560 01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:46,980 I don't believe I've ever seen it listed. 1561 01:22:46,980 --> 01:22:49,240 I think I searched for it at one point. 1562 01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:51,633 Not sure actually that we even have one. 1563 01:22:52,690 --> 01:22:54,400 Maybe we have to but- 1564 01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:56,400 - [Woman] Have one then must have we have one then. 1565 01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:57,900 If Barre Town has a program, 1566 01:22:57,900 --> 01:23:00,080 do we have to have somebody? 1567 01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:03,250 Somebody must be designated Amy, or not necessarily. 1568 01:23:03,250 --> 01:23:05,380 - There's no one in the role at your- 1569 01:23:05,380 --> 01:23:07,140 - Okay. - SU right now, 1570 01:23:07,140 --> 01:23:08,190 and there should be. 1571 01:23:08,190 --> 01:23:10,730 We're gonna be contacting the superintendent soon. 1572 01:23:10,730 --> 01:23:13,600 We've been caught up. - Okay. 1573 01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:15,090 - Doing certain things this year, 1574 01:23:15,090 --> 01:23:17,297 with all the craziness. - Right. 1575 01:23:19,060 --> 01:23:20,310 I'm kinda wondering for us 1576 01:23:20,310 --> 01:23:23,563 what collaboration might look like with Barre Town, Martha. 1577 01:23:24,767 --> 01:23:25,755 - Yeah, I know- - I'll reach out to them 1578 01:23:25,755 --> 01:23:28,408 and have some conversations, you know? 1579 01:23:28,408 --> 01:23:29,770 - Yeah, I know a lot of the people 1580 01:23:29,770 --> 01:23:31,876 who are doing the work there. 1581 01:23:31,876 --> 01:23:32,893 - I do, yeah. - 'Cause my kids, 1582 01:23:35,237 --> 01:23:36,532 friendly with each other. 1583 01:23:36,532 --> 01:23:39,763 And so that would be a good thing to do. 1584 01:23:41,140 --> 01:23:45,130 - I'm recognizing that it's 10:32 right now, 1585 01:23:45,130 --> 01:23:48,860 so maybe if we wanna finish up and people, 1586 01:23:48,860 --> 01:23:50,350 if they still have questions or comments, 1587 01:23:50,350 --> 01:23:52,020 stay on the line after. 1588 01:23:52,020 --> 01:23:53,043 Would that work? 1589 01:23:56,390 --> 01:23:59,830 - So for those of you who are implementing schools already, 1590 01:23:59,830 --> 01:24:02,600 this might be your chance to say goodbye, 1591 01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:04,330 'cause we're now gonna go through the steps 1592 01:24:04,330 --> 01:24:07,320 for how to become a PBIS school to begin with. 1593 01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:09,992 But if you're interested, you can stay on. 1594 01:24:09,992 --> 01:24:11,790 And if you are going to leave 1595 01:24:11,790 --> 01:24:13,670 but you have a question you wanna have answered, 1596 01:24:13,670 --> 01:24:16,053 feel free to unmute and jump in. 1597 01:24:18,140 --> 01:24:21,820 So we have a YouTube channel that hosts 1598 01:24:21,820 --> 01:24:26,080 our First Steps to Implementation Online Module Series. 1599 01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:28,460 Over the years we have updated this. 1600 01:24:28,460 --> 01:24:30,330 And so there's actually like a direction sheet 1601 01:24:30,330 --> 01:24:31,250 that goes along with it, 1602 01:24:31,250 --> 01:24:33,280 because certain things within the videos 1603 01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:34,593 have changed a little bit. 1604 01:24:36,010 --> 01:24:41,010 So you'll get a copy of that after this webinar. 1605 01:24:42,860 --> 01:24:46,720 And basically there are four modules that kind of lead you 1606 01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:48,050 through some pre-work, 1607 01:24:48,050 --> 01:24:51,133 before you would be coming to April or June training. 1608 01:24:52,100 --> 01:24:56,440 So you would wanna schedule the completion of these modules, 1609 01:24:56,440 --> 01:24:59,660 thinking about which training you'd be leading up to, 1610 01:24:59,660 --> 01:25:02,453 and kind of map out a timeline for your school. 1611 01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:05,080 The one I'm gonna talk about today, 1612 01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:07,080 'cause I just need to give a little more information, 1613 01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:09,853 is module three, which is around the data tools. 1614 01:25:11,293 --> 01:25:14,910 And so we're thinking about, in PBIS, 1615 01:25:14,910 --> 01:25:19,380 rather than just jumping from thinking there's a problem 1616 01:25:19,380 --> 01:25:21,340 to developing a solution, 1617 01:25:21,340 --> 01:25:24,600 we're developing a more in depth problem-solving process 1618 01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:29,040 and decision-making process, where we are spending some time 1619 01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:31,660 really identifying what the problem actually is, 1620 01:25:31,660 --> 01:25:33,680 before developing solutions. 1621 01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:37,390 And then actually creating an action plan 1622 01:25:37,390 --> 01:25:40,870 where we have assigned tasks and timelines 1623 01:25:40,870 --> 01:25:42,080 for things to be completed, 1624 01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:43,750 rather than just kinda crossing our fingers 1625 01:25:43,750 --> 01:25:45,150 and hoping that they happen. 1626 01:25:46,830 --> 01:25:50,820 So this first data piece of PBIS 1627 01:25:50,820 --> 01:25:52,130 during your readiness process 1628 01:25:52,130 --> 01:25:54,573 is just kinda the first step in that process. 1629 01:25:55,660 --> 01:25:59,160 So before coming to April or June training, 1630 01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:01,880 we're asking that each school complete 1631 01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:04,210 the self-assessment survey. 1632 01:26:04,210 --> 01:26:09,210 So this gives all staff the chance to weigh in about 1633 01:26:09,350 --> 01:26:12,840 whether they think certain PBIS practices are in place, 1634 01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:14,730 partially in place or not in place at all, 1635 01:26:14,730 --> 01:26:17,800 and what the priorities are for changes. 1636 01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:21,270 And then after your baseline year, 1637 01:26:21,270 --> 01:26:24,390 you'd be designing your action plan around that. 1638 01:26:24,390 --> 01:26:27,250 So, for instance, one of the questions is, 1639 01:26:27,250 --> 01:26:30,610 staff know which behaviors should be managed 1640 01:26:30,610 --> 01:26:32,370 in the classroom versus, 1641 01:26:32,370 --> 01:26:35,050 or there's agreement about which behaviors should be managed 1642 01:26:35,050 --> 01:26:38,150 in the classroom versus handled outside the classroom. 1643 01:26:38,150 --> 01:26:42,400 And school staff might say oh, this is not in place at all. 1644 01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:44,910 Like we've disagreed with the administrators 1645 01:26:44,910 --> 01:26:47,330 about what behaviors should be handled where. 1646 01:26:47,330 --> 01:26:50,760 And this is a high priority for us to work on. 1647 01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:52,580 So that might be an item that makes it 1648 01:26:52,580 --> 01:26:54,653 into your annual action plan. 1649 01:26:56,110 --> 01:27:00,320 So this is a link that staff get the link to 1650 01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:04,000 through an email and complete the survey online. 1651 01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:06,680 And once schools are implementing, 1652 01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:09,060 we ask them to complete this once a year, 1653 01:27:09,060 --> 01:27:10,300 preferably in the spring. 1654 01:27:10,300 --> 01:27:12,523 We open the window from January to March. 1655 01:27:13,810 --> 01:27:15,750 For schools that are exploring, 1656 01:27:15,750 --> 01:27:17,440 we would just ask that you complete it 1657 01:27:17,440 --> 01:27:19,050 before whatever the training is. 1658 01:27:19,050 --> 01:27:19,883 So, for instance, 1659 01:27:19,883 --> 01:27:22,070 if you're planning to come to June training, 1660 01:27:22,070 --> 01:27:24,763 you might send out the self-assessment survey in May. 1661 01:27:25,610 --> 01:27:28,770 This year for schools that are implementing, 1662 01:27:28,770 --> 01:27:30,460 we're giving them the option of completing 1663 01:27:30,460 --> 01:27:32,460 a school climate survey. 1664 01:27:32,460 --> 01:27:35,180 But to make things simple for new schools, 1665 01:27:35,180 --> 01:27:37,892 we're sticking with a self-assessment survey 1666 01:27:37,892 --> 01:27:40,053 for that reason. 1667 01:27:42,260 --> 01:27:47,260 And then when those responses are given, 1668 01:27:47,410 --> 01:27:49,690 they're compiled into these reports. 1669 01:27:49,690 --> 01:27:52,290 So you can see your scores from year to year 1670 01:27:53,130 --> 01:27:56,510 and see in different areas what's in place, 1671 01:27:56,510 --> 01:27:58,010 partially in place or not at all, 1672 01:27:58,010 --> 01:28:00,233 and what the level of priority is. 1673 01:28:01,100 --> 01:28:05,200 So really helpful to be able to look at both within a year 1674 01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:09,670 and across years, where some areas for improvement might be. 1675 01:28:09,670 --> 01:28:12,860 And some areas of success that you could celebrate. 1676 01:28:12,860 --> 01:28:14,530 So you can see it by subscale 1677 01:28:14,530 --> 01:28:17,363 and then also by individual items. 1678 01:28:18,480 --> 01:28:23,070 And we'll kinda teach you how to get to that assessment, 1679 01:28:23,070 --> 01:28:26,163 how to look at the results, and how to analyze them. 1680 01:28:27,650 --> 01:28:30,400 And then typically, like I mentioned before, 1681 01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:35,400 we have schools complete the school-wide evaluation tool, 1682 01:28:35,810 --> 01:28:39,090 the set, that involves an outside person 1683 01:28:39,090 --> 01:28:40,220 coming into the building. 1684 01:28:40,220 --> 01:28:43,130 But because we can't do that this year, 1685 01:28:43,130 --> 01:28:44,670 we're asking that schools complete 1686 01:28:44,670 --> 01:28:47,260 the tiered fidelity inventory. 1687 01:28:47,260 --> 01:28:48,960 This is the tool that you'll use 1688 01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:51,740 throughout your time implementing PBIS. 1689 01:28:51,740 --> 01:28:54,680 We didn't typically use it as a pre-assessment, 1690 01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:55,730 but this year we are. 1691 01:28:56,870 --> 01:29:01,020 So the tiered fidelity inventory has three tiers. 1692 01:29:01,020 --> 01:29:03,183 So tier one, tier two, tier three. 1693 01:29:04,070 --> 01:29:07,770 And for pre-implementation, 1694 01:29:07,770 --> 01:29:10,663 you would just be completing tier one most likely. 1695 01:29:11,900 --> 01:29:14,340 And we would expect your scores, 1696 01:29:14,340 --> 01:29:15,850 both on the self-assessment survey 1697 01:29:15,850 --> 01:29:18,070 and the tiered fidelity inventory, to be somewhat low, 1698 01:29:18,070 --> 01:29:19,930 if you're not already implementing PBIS. 1699 01:29:19,930 --> 01:29:22,360 So it's not a judgment of any kind. 1700 01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:26,373 It's to be able to show pre post growth. 1701 01:29:28,270 --> 01:29:30,650 Once you're an implementing PBIS school, 1702 01:29:30,650 --> 01:29:32,740 you would use this tiered fidelity inventory 1703 01:29:32,740 --> 01:29:35,880 to assess what features are in place 1704 01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:37,750 and what features need some support, 1705 01:29:37,750 --> 01:29:39,770 to be able to form your action plan, 1706 01:29:39,770 --> 01:29:41,973 along with your self-assessment survey. 1707 01:29:43,310 --> 01:29:48,310 And the tier one, I believe, has 15 questions. 1708 01:29:48,850 --> 01:29:51,420 So it's a pretty simple assessment 1709 01:29:51,420 --> 01:29:54,100 that your leadership team would take. 1710 01:29:54,100 --> 01:29:55,770 So again, that's an online survey. 1711 01:29:55,770 --> 01:29:57,743 We'll teach you how to get to it. 1712 01:29:58,750 --> 01:30:01,890 And we do recommend that someone external to your team 1713 01:30:01,890 --> 01:30:03,720 complete that with you. 1714 01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:06,410 So that might be one of us as your TA, 1715 01:30:06,410 --> 01:30:09,520 if you have a coach already, or your SU coordinator 1716 01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:11,180 if you have one. 1717 01:30:11,180 --> 01:30:14,860 And we ask that you complete that before implementation, 1718 01:30:14,860 --> 01:30:19,240 and then it will likely next year serve 1719 01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:21,930 as your post assessment. 1720 01:30:21,930 --> 01:30:25,210 And so that would be six to 12 weeks after rollout 1721 01:30:25,210 --> 01:30:26,270 in the fall. 1722 01:30:26,270 --> 01:30:27,740 And then once a year after that. 1723 01:30:27,740 --> 01:30:29,610 So that's another one that we open up the window 1724 01:30:29,610 --> 01:30:31,680 from January to March, 1725 01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:34,103 for schools to complete as a leadership team. 1726 01:30:35,190 --> 01:30:37,420 And just like the self-assessment survey, 1727 01:30:37,420 --> 01:30:39,440 you get some reports back. 1728 01:30:39,440 --> 01:30:42,750 So this is just an example of one of the questions. 1729 01:30:42,750 --> 01:30:46,030 So it gives you the feature, it gives you some examples 1730 01:30:46,030 --> 01:30:47,740 of what data sources you might use 1731 01:30:47,740 --> 01:30:50,290 to assess whether that feature's in place, 1732 01:30:50,290 --> 01:30:52,260 and then gives you the scoring criteria 1733 01:30:53,643 --> 01:30:56,113 of what a zero, one or two is on that item. 1734 01:30:57,020 --> 01:30:59,030 So then you will get your report. 1735 01:30:59,030 --> 01:31:01,170 You can see it broken out by sub-scales. 1736 01:31:01,170 --> 01:31:03,480 So which teaming features are in place, 1737 01:31:03,480 --> 01:31:06,770 what implementation features, and which evaluation features. 1738 01:31:06,770 --> 01:31:08,330 And then you'll be able to see 1739 01:31:08,330 --> 01:31:10,430 how that changes over the years. 1740 01:31:10,430 --> 01:31:12,910 And then you also can see it by item, 1741 01:31:12,910 --> 01:31:14,960 just like for the self-assessment survey. 1742 01:31:18,580 --> 01:31:20,703 So after this webinar, 1743 01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:24,910 if you are a school who is exploring implementation 1744 01:31:24,910 --> 01:31:27,163 for the first time, or a reboot, 1745 01:31:28,470 --> 01:31:32,960 look for an email from us with the intent to implement form. 1746 01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:35,480 So in a typical year, for April training, 1747 01:31:35,480 --> 01:31:37,630 that would have been due by January 1st. 1748 01:31:37,630 --> 01:31:39,690 However, this is not a typical year. 1749 01:31:39,690 --> 01:31:44,470 So this is a document that walks you through 1750 01:31:44,470 --> 01:31:49,440 the readiness pieces and allows us to know 1751 01:31:49,440 --> 01:31:53,563 that your school is ready to come to training. 1752 01:31:54,610 --> 01:31:55,980 We'll also send you the link 1753 01:31:55,980 --> 01:31:57,940 to the YouTube channel and the instructions 1754 01:31:57,940 --> 01:32:00,750 for the first steps online module series. 1755 01:32:00,750 --> 01:32:05,750 And we're happy as TAs to sit with you virtual 1756 01:32:05,890 --> 01:32:07,880 for those online modules, 1757 01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:10,083 to help you complete them as a team. 1758 01:32:11,430 --> 01:32:12,900 We'll also send you the information 1759 01:32:12,900 --> 01:32:16,210 about the SAS and the TFI as the pre-assessment. 1760 01:32:16,210 --> 01:32:19,450 And then your most important next step would be 1761 01:32:19,450 --> 01:32:23,060 to schedule the time to do those modules with your team, 1762 01:32:23,060 --> 01:32:26,290 and hopefully with a TA or coach before the training. 1763 01:32:26,290 --> 01:32:30,620 And so it utilizes the staff, universal staff handbook, 1764 01:32:30,620 --> 01:32:32,903 to get started on some activities. 1765 01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,760 We also have a checklist for you 1766 01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:41,500 with all the readiness activities for you to complete 1767 01:32:41,500 --> 01:32:44,660 and keep track of, before you come to training. 1768 01:32:44,660 --> 01:32:46,853 So that's linked in the materials as well. 1769 01:32:48,010 --> 01:32:49,863 And then just a reminder of the supports 1770 01:32:49,863 --> 01:32:51,360 that are available to you. 1771 01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:54,860 Our state TAs, coaches, SU coordinators. 1772 01:32:54,860 --> 01:32:57,210 We have a map on our website 1773 01:32:57,210 --> 01:32:59,550 of all the PBIS schools in Vermont. 1774 01:32:59,550 --> 01:33:02,160 So you can see which schools are maybe nearby to you 1775 01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:04,010 or similar to you in some way. 1776 01:33:04,010 --> 01:33:06,820 And it has the contact information for the administrators 1777 01:33:06,820 --> 01:33:08,010 and the school coordinators there. 1778 01:33:08,010 --> 01:33:09,710 So you could reach out to someone. 1779 01:33:10,740 --> 01:33:13,150 Our website, pbisvermont.org. 1780 01:33:13,150 --> 01:33:16,900 The national website is pbis.org. 1781 01:33:16,900 --> 01:33:19,660 And if you're not already getting the 1782 01:33:19,660 --> 01:33:23,300 Vermont PBIS updates emails from Anne Dubie, 1783 01:33:23,300 --> 01:33:25,510 if you put in the chat box 1784 01:33:25,510 --> 01:33:30,510 or if you email anne.dubie@uvm.edu, 1785 01:33:30,550 --> 01:33:32,240 you can get on our email list 1786 01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:34,980 to get all relevant information that you'll need. 1787 01:33:34,980 --> 01:33:37,630 And then we also have a Twitter and a Facebook page 1788 01:33:37,630 --> 01:33:40,943 where we post updates and ideas from schools. 1789 01:33:43,550 --> 01:33:45,720 So after this webinar, 1790 01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:47,550 if you take a look at the staff handbook, 1791 01:33:47,550 --> 01:33:51,450 there's a place for you to type in 1792 01:33:51,450 --> 01:33:54,410 who your school coordinator is or will be. 1793 01:33:54,410 --> 01:33:57,120 Who your SU coordinator is or will be. 1794 01:33:57,120 --> 01:33:59,670 Your TA, and if you have a coach. 1795 01:33:59,670 --> 01:34:01,370 So you can kind of start to keep track 1796 01:34:01,370 --> 01:34:04,913 of these support people and how to contact them. 1797 01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:09,970 And if you don't know who fills one of these roles, 1798 01:34:09,970 --> 01:34:11,010 you can email Anne. 1799 01:34:11,010 --> 01:34:13,970 Basically, if you don't know anything about 1800 01:34:13,970 --> 01:34:16,590 whatever you're thinking about, you can email Anne 1801 01:34:16,590 --> 01:34:19,263 and she will know how to get you to the right person. 1802 01:34:20,670 --> 01:34:22,100 Okay. 1803 01:34:22,100 --> 01:34:27,100 So now we have time for any questions, concerns, ideas, 1804 01:34:27,570 --> 01:34:29,260 whatever you would like. 1805 01:34:29,260 --> 01:34:33,183 If you've gotten everything you need, feel free to sign off. 1806 01:34:34,392 --> 01:34:36,230 And if you are a school that's thinking about 1807 01:34:36,230 --> 01:34:39,190 April or June training, please type that into the chat box 1808 01:34:39,190 --> 01:34:41,753 so we make sure you get the materials that you need.